Posts by Keith T.

1) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Frank D. Drake 1930 – 2022 (Message 2106216)
Posted 3 Sep 2022 by Profile Keith T.
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https://www.seti.org/frank-d-drake-1930-2022

RIP
2) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Arecibo Observatory (Message 2061091)
Posted 10 Nov 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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Another cable has snapped at the Arecibo Observatory, damaging the dish further.
https://astronomynow.com/2020/11/08/aericibo-radio-telescope-suffers-additional-damage-from-second-cable-failure/


More information here https://www.ucf.edu/news/a-second-cable-fails-at-nsfs-arecibo-observatory-in-puerto-rico/
3) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : Voyager 2 is back online after eight months of radio silence (Message 2060560)
Posted 3 Nov 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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Voyager 2 is back online after eight months of radio silence


https://www.theregister.com/AMP/2020/11/03/voyager_2_back_online/
4) Message boards : Politics : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here 2 (Message 2056884)
Posted 11 Sep 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157815226083585&id=655543584
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to get BOINC running on a few old netbooks under Linux. (Message 2054511)
Posted 1 Aug 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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Thanks Keith.

I have downloaded Etcher for 32bit Linux, I see that it's also available for Win
First run I seem to be missing a dependency.
At least I'm getting an error message, but the window is too small to see the complete message, with no way to enlarge it !
I'm going to look for a Log File, and also try to install again so that I am not missing dependencies.

[Edit]
I've tried putting the app and the image file in the same directory.
Etcher loads, I select the ISO, select a writeable Flash Drive with enough space.
Hit Flash, Starting...

About 10 seconds later:

Attention, Something went wrong...
There are about 20 lines of error reports, but the popup window can't be expanded or the content copied !

At the end I just have Cancel or Retry buttons !

I can't find a logfile to copy, could I create one by running in Terminal or Console ?

Getting late, Help please.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to get BOINC running on a few old netbooks under Linux. (Message 2054496)
Posted 1 Aug 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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OK, I've been concentrating on the Aspire One 533 for the last few days.

I can boot Puppy 32bit successfully, with working sound and correct screen resolution.
I can boot from HDD or USB.
The CPU is 64bit capable, so I tried to install the 64bit version of Puppy, without much success.

I have also downloaded 64bit Ubuntu 20.04

After countless install attempts, I eventually managed to get 800x600 screen resolution, and very quiet sounds.
I originally tried to get Ubuntu running on the same drive as Puppy on different partitions, but something didn't want to play, so I eventually wiped all the partitions and did a clean install.
It runs very slowly in 1gb RAM, and I haven't been able to get the correct display resolution.

I subsequently wiped it again because of problems with the boot loader.

I have heard of Lubuntu, and downloaded 2 different 64bit versions, but I am still having problems with creating a multi boot, or single boot installer on USB.
I have about 6 or 7 different USB thumb drives and SD cards of various sizes from 1gb up to 64gb.

My current problem is creating a Lubuntu boot USB from Puppy.
I am probably missing something obvious, but I just need a way to create a single or preferably multi boot Linux USB boot drive under Linux

I have used the YUMI creator from Windows 7, but I no longer have a working Win 7 system, I do have working Windows 10 and XP systems, and also several different Android tablets and phones.

Any help please ?
7) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Hi Housto_ We have a proble_ ! (Message 2054494)
Posted 1 Aug 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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It looks like David A_derso_ is not the only one that has difficulty with proof reading importat web pages and articles !

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/nasa-mars-2020-spacecraft-launch-rocket-perseverance-rover-a9647436.html has a typo in the 4th paragraph.

Maybe someone's spelling or grammar checker has gone into Safe _ode or HIBERATION
8) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2054150)
Posted 26 Jul 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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The last tasks that I was aware of have just timed out

3 tasks on here were among the last https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8833115&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=

As we know, nothing has updated since 16 June, but I was monitoring the timeouts and late returns.

The last ones that I was aware of expired today, so if we still had the database running it would probably have just reached zero Tasks In Progress
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to get BOINC running on a few old netbooks under Linux. (Message 2053951)
Posted 24 Jul 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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Thanks Martin

Did you know of John Murga ?
Apparently he was an active member of the Linux development community.

The missing status of his forums makes it difficult when I try to find an answer online, as many Google searches point to http://murga-linux.com

One annoying thing that I'm trying to fix is the powerapplet_tray.
It doesn't update correctly on my Samsung, or Acer One. I think others have experienced the same issue.

I currently have one charger between 2 working netbooks. The Dell also appears to use the same charger, but it tries to power on for a few seconds, then shuts down.
I'm concentrating on 2 working netbooks for now.
I have managed to get the HDD out of the Dell Mini 10, and I have a USB drive caddy to try to recover data from it.
10) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2053947)
Posted 23 Jul 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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https://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/ the alternate URL for this site is still broken too.

I wonder if it was Eric or D Aderso that broke the websites :-)
11) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2053944)
Posted 23 Jul 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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You have to wonder, why keep a beta site in the air of a project that's in hibernation? It just gobbles up electricity.


There are decades of development history on the Beta website forums.
There also used to be a social community there as well as here.

Some of the Beta members used to avoid the SETI Main forums.

The site also probably runs on the same hardware as SETI Main.

It might be useful if Eric could do the same RAC trick that he did here to allow posting in the Beta forums again.
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to get BOINC running on a few old netbooks under Linux. (Message 2053941)
Posted 23 Jul 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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The Puppy Linux support forums were hosted at http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy

Unfortunately the owner of this domain died recently.
Many of the references are currently lost, although i believe some other community members are trying to get some of the support content re-hosted elsewhere.

I didn't know about the loss of the support website when I chose to install Puppy, instead of a different distro of Linux.

Can anyone recommend an easier route to take ?
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Trying to get BOINC running on a few old netbooks under Linux. (Message 2053939)
Posted 23 Jul 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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I'm now the owner of 4 Intel Atom based netbooks or similar devices.

The oldest is a Samsung NC10, which used to run various BOINC projects under Windows XP Home
I recently upgraded it to to Puppy Linux 32bit.

I also have an Acer Aspire One 533, which had Windows 7 when I got it.

I have a Dell Inspiron Mini 1010 which has hardware issues.

The newest machine is an Acer SW5-014 running Windows 10.

All 4 machines came with licensed copies of MS Windows.

More to follow...
14) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2053869)
Posted 23 Jul 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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Looks like the last workunit has timed out or been timed out.
Still got 13 in my Valid list, and the SSP is still broken.
My wingperson for my last valid task will be timed out in 15hrs, but IIRC a few here said that they had 1's that would also meet that fate on the 26th.

Cheers.


There are 3 here for the 26-7 https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8833115&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=
15) Message boards : News : SETI@home hibernation (Message 2053423)
Posted 16 Jul 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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Hibernation or HIBERATION ?

I think the notice at the top of the Home Page may have been typo'd by David Aderso :)

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16) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI Server Status Page (Message 2053196)
Posted 5 Jul 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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I'm assuming that the cost of running all the servers in the Data Center may be significantly higher than the bandwidth costs of the extra requests .

I thought that Matt or Jeff or Eric had posted previously about the cost of each running drive.
That's what I am guessing may be the reason for the shutdown of some of the servers.

Has SETI@home run out of funds at the moment when NASA has started funding other SETI projects on the east coast ?
17) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI Server Status Page (Message 2053164)
Posted 4 Jul 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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I'm wondering if the project staff have shut down many of the server boxes in order to save Data Center costs.

I think that I read somewhere that they pay according to how many drives are running.

Does that make any sense ?
18) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI orphans (Message 2053163)
Posted 4 Jul 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/ms/device/viewBoincProfileConfiguration.do?name=Default

Thanks, that worked. I've set it to 250.
I see that I can set the share for individual WCG projects here too.
19) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI orphans (Message 2053161)
Posted 4 Jul 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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The only other public, recognised, project shown on BOINC's project list is Collatz Conjecture.

[The BOINC Project List is generated automatically from the application list of each listed project, so it can be taken as authoritative in this context. The only error I know of is a false listing of ATI GPUs for LHC.]


Thanks Richard, I've added Collatz, and got my first tasks.
First GPU task took almost 21 hours, I also received a CPU task before I managed to turn off CPU, ETA is currently around 12 Days.

I have set Collatz to Resource Share of 10, with most other projects between 75 to 200, SETI is still on 10,000 :)

I would like to increase the resource share of WCG to 200 or 250, It's currently the default 100
I have searched for how to change this on WCG settings and Forum Search without success.
Does anyone know where the setting is hidden ?
I know that WCG is a bit different to most other BOINC projects, as most have a fairly similar layout, but WCG is very different.

@Keith. I am currently running Einstein GPU tasks einsteinbinary_BRP4_1.34_windows_x86_64__opencl-intel_gpu-Beta
20) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI orphans (Message 2053060)
Posted 2 Jul 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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Does anyone know of a list of projects which support Intel GPU ?

I have successfully run Einstein tasks, and used to run SETI GPU tasks.

I would like to know of any other projects that will run on an Intel GPU please ?
21) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation Safety 3 (Message 2052626)
Posted 24 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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Rolling, Rolling, Rolling !

https://youtu.be/DZsqGUDGTSc
22) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation Safety 3 (Message 2052625)
Posted 24 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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Interim Accident Report (PDF)

https://www.caapakistan.com.pk/Upload/SIBReports/AAIB-431.pdf

Discussions in Pakistan and UK based forums.

https://historyofpia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=198940
https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/632693-pia-a320-crash-karachi.html
23) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2052583)
Posted 23 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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7 days since the SSP and Scheduler went offline :(

Will it be back today ?
24) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2052508)
Posted 22 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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It will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow during the maintenance outage.

Hopefully the scheduler and SSP will be back online.

I would be surprised if they were deliberately disabled for nearly a week.
25) Message boards : Politics : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here 2 (Message 2052398)
Posted 20 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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The politics of SETI

NASA is expected to start funding SETI again after more than 25 years https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=85544

But the phrase SETI has been replaced with "technosignatures".
26) Message boards : SETI@home Science : NASA starts funding SETI ! (Message 2052396)
Posted 20 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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Some of the history of why SETI lost government funding in the 1990s

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?client=tablet-unknown&um=1&ie=UTF-8&lr&q=related:YbUxjSbfoHXXkM:scholar.google.com/
27) Message boards : SETI@home Science : NASA starts funding SETI ! (Message 2052338)
Posted 19 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/aliens-nasa-study-proof-extraterrestrial-life-seti-harvard-rochester-smithsonian-a9576121.html?amp
28) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2052313)
Posted 19 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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I've been wondering, seeing that the need of the COLO's bandwidth isn't required now (nor the costs involved), if/when/or is the server kit being moved back up the hill into the lab.

Cheers.


I think that is likely. When the Replica Database went down, I think that may have been a symptom of the same process.

It would be nice to get some feedback from the project staff.

Eric has not even responded to recent questions in the SETI@home Facebook group, although he is still active on Facebook.
29) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2052263)
Posted 18 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:

...

The real question is: Who many WU are still needed to be crunched/ reported to close and finish the Science DB? Some time ago was in the range of less than 2% (IIRC) probabily now is a lot less. And with only 10K WU in the field that could be in the range of 100 WU or less.


I think the Red Message at the top of the home page
We are no longer distributing tasks ...
Is indicating that all the necessary work has been completed, and that anything else is just being done for Credits rather than having any effect on the Science Database.

That was my assumption when I read that message, but it could be interpreted in a different way, it's a bit ambiguous in meaning !
30) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2052252)
Posted 18 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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I just noticed that the SETI Beta SSP https://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/server_status.php is running !

Does anyone know if the status of Bruno is significant to SETI Main ?

After a few minutes of searching, I also found a link to the old SSP
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html
But it isn't any more helpful than the usual one
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_server_status.php
31) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2052132)
Posted 17 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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There are 2 or 3 computers in the https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_hosts.php that are holding on to tasks until just before deadline in order to maintain their RAC.

This has been discussed elsewhere, and has caused some controversy.

Unfortunately it appears to be within the rules, even though it gives them an unfair advantage.

It also seems to be a waste of time and electricity, because the results that they are returning have already been Validated weeks or even months ago !


since the sum of WUs with those 2 or 3 computers amounts to about 5-6000 WUs, and there are ~30,000 WUs in the field, that would mean that most outstanding WUs are with other hosts, no?

why be mad at the guy returning his 5500 WUs, but not at all the hosts with 24,000+ who probably wont return them at all?


https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8652081&offset=1400&show_names=0&state=0&appid=

Unfortunately the maintenance outages are now lasting longer than they used to, so some of these bunkered tasks are timing out instead of receiving any credit.
32) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2052129)
Posted 17 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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17 Jun 2020 09:40:15|SETI@home|
Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance

Both the Scheduler and SSP appear to be Offline again.
33) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2052031)
Posted 16 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3755716471 is probably the oldest WU still in the database.
It will finally time out in a few hours.
Created 23 November 2019.

And then it will be gone. The last host that has it has never returned a result and that will put the task count to 10 attempts and it will be retired.


It's already Validated.
3 Valid results in April, the _5 https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=8703710336 is Canonical.
34) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2052015)
Posted 16 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3755716471 is probably the oldest WU still in the database.
It will finally time out in a few hours.
Created 23 November 2019.
35) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2051926)
Posted 14 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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It would interesting to see how many of those are "real" results, and not timing out or already had their canonical result declared.


I think all Canonical Results were completed around the time of the Red Message at the top of the home page.

My final 2 Valid results have gone in the last hour.

Results out in the field has also dropped below 20k
Results returned and awaiting validation is now below 30k.
36) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2051922)
Posted 14 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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Is unlikely a high performance cruncher has any WU yet to crunch.
Unless the owner force it to lately report the WU crunched.
Even my host 150K WU ultra large cache was exhausted long time ago.


Well there are still a significant number of results being returned today.

https://munin.kiska.pw/munin/Munin-Node/Munin-Node/results_setiathomev8_hour.html
37) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2051890)
Posted 14 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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Here are the Top 30 by RAC

01,3021, 8652081
02,1923, 4892694
03,0
04,0
05,30, 8873167
06,0
07,0
08,0
09,148, 8873154

10,0
11,15, 5944259
12,1
13,0
14,0
15,0
16,7, 8873201
17,0
18,86, 8873378
19,0
20,43, 8887061

21,2, 8835661
22,0
23,0
24,0
25,0
26,0
27,0
28,0
29,28, 2301233
30,0


Only 8 or 9 other hosts in top 30 still have Tasks In Progress
38) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2051882)
Posted 14 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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Just under 5 hours until my last 2 time out.

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8917043
39) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2051688)
Posted 12 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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The SSP is finally back !

Looks like it returned some time in the last hour according to https://munin.kiska.pw/munin/Munin-Node/Munin-Node/results_setiathomev8_in_progress.html
40) Message boards : Number crunching : Uploads and downloads blocked for some BOINC projects using HTTPS (Message 2051668)
Posted 12 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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As far as I understand it, each BOINC project is Independently Run.

So, although all projects use resources from the greater BOINC community, they are free to run their own projects in different ways, using Different revisions of BOINC server software.
They also have Different hosting providers.
I think they are expected to adhere to certain standards, but I'm not sure exactly how that is, or isn't, enforced.

This is probably why some projects, like http://www.enigmaathome.net/ and probably others, are dormant and apparently abandoned.
41) Message boards : Number crunching : Uploads and downloads blocked for some BOINC projects using HTTPS (Message 2051489)
Posted 9 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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I know that the current state of BOINC for Android is a mess.

None of the currently available versions have the updated certificates since May 2020

Google Play now require that all newly uploaded apps to Play Store after 1st August 2019 must contain 64bit code.
From 1 August 2021, they may be removing support for 32bit completely !

I think the current Recommended version of BOINC is still 32bit, the Beta version may be 64bit compatible.
42) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2051434)
Posted 8 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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The rate of timeouts, and deliberate returns just before deadline , appears to ramping up, for the next few days or more.
It looks like this surge will last for around 7 days or more.




By this time next week, we could be down to around 25k Results out in the field.
43) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2051209)
Posted 6 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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There are 2 or 3 computers in the https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_hosts.php that are holding on to tasks until just before deadline in order to maintain their RAC.

This has been discussed elsewhere, and has caused some controversy.

Unfortunately it appears to be within the rules, even though it gives them an unfair advantage.

It also seems to be a waste of time and electricity, because the results that they are returning have already been Validated weeks or even months ago !
44) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The last hurrah thread (Message 2050988)
Posted 4 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=85532

I posted a couple of days ago.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/317689381579505/permalink/3580620521953025/ is a link to the post from Eric on Facebook SETI@home group.
45) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2050946)
Posted 3 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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Results out in the field & Results returned and awaiting validation are both close to milestones

Results out in the field currently 101,203
Results returned and awaiting validation 150,265

There is another surge of Tasks due to Expire in the next few days, so Results out in the field will probably be under 50k in the next week.

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46) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2050813)
Posted 2 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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Only did Main, not on Beta. :-(


I did ask Eric on FB if he could do both, I haven't been able to post on Beta since I started using my current 2 systems.
I have a lot of old Android devices attached to Beta that never got connected to SETI Main
47) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2050793)
Posted 1 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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The minimum RAC for posting has been updated by Eric.

I've changed the RAC threshold on the public forums to 0 and the total credit threshold to 100.
from the SETI@home Facebook group.
48) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2050791)
Posted 1 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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We will have to replace the RAC>1 requirement with a total credit requirement. We may also have to come up with an endorsement process to allow new users.


From the SETI@home Facebook group, Eric posted:

I've changed the RAC threshold on the public forums to 0 and the total credit threshold to 100.
49) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Minimum RAC for posting to forums has changed. (Message 2050790)
Posted 1 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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From Eric Korpela in the SETI@home Facebook group.
I've changed the RAC threshold on the public forums to 0 and the total credit threshold to 100.
50) Message boards : Number crunching : Uploads and downloads blocked for some BOINC projects using HTTPS (Message 2050773)
Posted 1 Jun 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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Thanks for your efforts Richard

Android needs an urgent fix, as most devices are not rooted, so it is impossible to edit the crt file on Android.

I have 2 LHC Tasks that can't report, with a 3rd one in progress.

Not sure about WCG yet, I've got some of those in progress on Android too.
51) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : SpaceX ready to launch again. (Message 2050657)
Posted 30 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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Landing the first stage from how many miles up onto a barge in the Atlantic is quite some feat.
It was fascinating watching the second stage motor nozzle glowing red and the dark lines (presumably structural members).

To me it looked as if the initial acceleration was higher than the old Saturn V, but the actual peak acceleration was lower.

That's probably due to the Thrust to Weight ratio.

I know that many different sites and YouTube channels were covering the launch and the preparations

My favourite one is http://nasaspaceflight.com
52) Message boards : Number crunching : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 2050625)
Posted 30 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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Are there any active rendering (video/image) projects out there? All of the rendering projects I am aware of have either closed down or do not have any work


I'm not sure if this list is up to date https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_distributed_computing_projects

Discord BOINC Network might be useful too https://discord.gg/Bp6NpH
53) Message boards : Number crunching : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 2050623)
Posted 30 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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Just found some new contenders for the Oldest Workunits that still have outstanding Tasks https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8614221

5 WU's from 8th January that got sent to 2 unreliable hosts. They will probably be around until 9th June
There are others that will not finish until the middle of June here https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8926375&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3755716471 is not a long deadline Workunit, but it has still managed to have one outstanding Task more than 6 months after the WU was created.

It looks like this one will still be around until 16 June, almost 7 months after 23 November last year, and has got to be the oldest WU still in the database, unless someone can find an older one !
54) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2050465)
Posted 27 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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I asked Eric about RAC, a couple of weeks ago on the SETI@home Facebook group.

He said that he would be looking into it

I haven't seen anything officially yet, but I will ask again the next time I am on the group, unless someone else has already done it recently.
55) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Transportation Safety 3 (Message 2050440)
Posted 27 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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PIA A320 PK 8303

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6SYmp3qb3uO4U-LbbWgiFfBc-7HdvT6N

There is a lot of discussion about this particular accident on various aviation forums.

After about 5 days, it is fairly clear what happened, but not Why ?

It is certainly a very bizarre accident.

The approach was too high, too fast, and the landing gear was almost certainly UP when Both Engines were scraped along the runway for a few thousand metres or yards.

The engines both failed due to the damage, while the aircraft was in the circuit for a second approach.
56) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #6 (Message 2050382)
Posted 26 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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I always check other sources in addition to the Daily Mail, but it's occasionally useful to get unconfirmed breaking reports on sensational stories.

The only "mainstream" UK newspaper that I usually avoid is the Daily Express !
57) Message boards : Number crunching : Anything relating to AstroPulse (3) tasks (Message 2050333)
Posted 25 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
The final 2 AstroPulse Results are finished in the last hour.

SSP https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_server_status.php
Munin https://munin.kiska.pw/munin/Munin-Node/Munin-Node/results_setiathome_AP.html
58) Message boards : Number crunching : Ryzen and Threadripper (Message 2050308)
Posted 25 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/AMP/2020/05/24/linus_torvalds_adopts_amd_threadripper/
59) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2050279)
Posted 24 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I would like to recommend the short story https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God by Arthur C Clarke to everyone as they finish their last few Workunits and Tasks

I found it kind of appropriate, as we are getting closer to the end of the current search.
60) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2050208)
Posted 24 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Many of the outstanding Tasks from the last days of the original replication on 31 March / 1 April are timing out this weekend.

Results out in the field have just dropped below 150,000
Results returned and awaiting validation are now below 210,000
Results waiting for db purging are now below 250,000

Even the "Top computer" now has around 9000 Tasks In Progress, down from about 20k a few days ago.
He's still returning Tasks a few hours before they time out in order to collect the points for a 3rd, 4th, 5th or even 6th Result, even though the WU may have already been Validated weeks ago !
There seem to be a few others in the top 10 that are doing the same thing, so the top few places in the RAC leaderboard are not really contributing any additional useful results for SETI now that >99.9% of the Results have been Validated. https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_hosts.php

Meanwhile the final AstroPulse Results are still out in the field, but are well into single figures with 2, 5 & 7, but no change in almost 48 hours.

The next big timeout surge appears to be around the middle of June.
61) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2050041)
Posted 22 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
There are lots of tasks due to time out in the next 48 hours, including quite a few from the 8+ week turnaround "1337" Ryzen.
I see that it now has less than 20k tasks in progress. It seems to be returning tasks a couple of hours before the deadline in order to get lots of 3rd 4th or 5th places.
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8652081&offset=60&show_names=0&state=4&appid=

The final tasks in progress have deadlines of 25 July or later, although I think there will probably be only a few thousand left by then.

Results out in the field is now below 250k, about 24 hours later than I expected. The curve seems to be flattening at the moment, but I think it will get a bit steeper when a lot of timeouts from the last few days of Original Replication arrive in the next few days.
62) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (2) (Message 2050008)
Posted 22 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
This might be too late to stop the current update, but are you aware of the trick to tell Windows 10 that you are using a metered connection ?
I have not used it yet, but it might be useful.
63) Message boards : Number crunching : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 2049917)
Posted 21 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
There is a website that you can go to and select your CPU type and what boinc project you run and it will give you the average run times of a work unit. Can anyone remember the name of it? I cannot think of it for the life of me


I think this http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/results/delai.py is it.
64) Message boards : SETI@home Science : SETI: You gave up too soon! (Message 2049846)
Posted 20 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
We are looking for Intelligence not single cell organisms

There may Life on Europa or Enceladus, but not Intelligent Life
https://www.space.com/15716-alien-life-search-solar-system.html
65) Message boards : SETI@home Science : SETI: You gave up too soon! (Message 2049825)
Posted 20 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
While I was looking at the history of exoplanet discovery, I found this article https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/who-really-discovered-the-first-exoplanet/

In 1979, Gordon Walker and a few colleagues at the University of British Columbia began searching for planets. He was the world’s preeminent authority in precise Doppler observations. He designed his survey on the premise that all planetary systems resemble the Solar System. The biggest signals—and, given the limitations of his equipment, the only signals he had any chance of detecting—would come from giant planets, similar to Jupiter, which takes 12 years to go around the sun. Which meant that Walker needed to commit to a very long-term project.

He also had to hope that Jupiter-like planets are common, because he was only able to monitor about 20 stars. To expand his search, he would need more support from the Telescope Time Allocation Committee, which was not forthcoming. Walker wrote later: “It is quite hard nowadays to realize the atmosphere of skepticism and indifference in the 1980s to proposed searches for [extrasolar] planets. Some people felt that such an undertaking was not even a legitimate part of astronomy.”


That sounds familiar to some of the hostility towards SETI research in the past
66) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2049810)
Posted 20 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
On 3rd May the "Results out in the field" dropped below 1,000,000

I see that we have reached less than 1 million results out in the field.

Meow.


On May 9th it was down to 750,000
On May 15th we passed 500,000

Later today, we are likely to drop below 250,000, with "Results returned and awaiting validation" now below 333,000 and "Results waiting for db purging" now below 425,000



Source SSP and https://munin.kiska.pw/munin/Munin-Node/Munin-Node/results_setiathomev8_in_progress_validation.html

Over the same period, AstroPulse Results out in the field have dropped from around 1200 down to 13
67) Message boards : SETI@home Science : SETI: You gave up too soon! (Message 2049759)
Posted 20 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
21 years ago, there were almost no known exoplanets.
However the first exoplanet discovery may have occurred but not been recognised in 1917 https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6991

In the last 21 years a lot has changed https://exoplanets.nasa.gov/alien-worlds/historic-timeline/

SETI@home is refining and focusing the search, and hopefully we will resume in a few years by looking in the more likely places.
68) Message boards : Number crunching : For what it's worth, SETI@home is officially 21 (Message 2049603)
Posted 18 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
8 of the top 20 by RAC still have a significant number of tasks In Progress. From a few hundred, up to over 20k.
I did look for Any WU's that still need Validation, I didn't find any.
The host with over 20k tasks should have a lot less by the 23rd of May, including about 6 of my last 15 WU's
69) Message boards : Number crunching : For what it's worth, SETI@home is officially 21 (Message 2049594)
Posted 18 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I've just looked through around 2500 Tasks assigned to one of the top computers by RAC
There are a lot that have deadlines in the next 5-6 days, and another big block around 14-15 June
However, I was looking for any tasks with deadlines beyond 23 July, I found 3 or 4 for 25 July, but nothing beyond that.
So the last Workunits will Probably be finished before the end of July, but there might be a very small group in August
70) Message boards : Number crunching : For what it's worth, SETI@home is officially 21 (Message 2049586)
Posted 18 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Given that the lab is closed, and all the desktop computers off, it is highly unlikely that Eric has been able to run through the outstanding tasks. He may have done a few from home, but nowhere near enough to clear the pool. The most probable explanation is people actually running the tasks or aborting them, thus allowing work units for which the canonical result has been declared to clear from sight. Remember that once the canonical result has been declared our part in the science for that work unit is done, extra completed tasks for that work unit are ignored, but as far as I can see credit is awarded where applicable.


I would have thought that one or more of the servers could easily crunch 800 tasks in a few hours.
You could be right, it depends how soon they want to start working on the next stage of Nebula with the "complete set".

The notice at the top of the front page seems to indicate that all the canonical results are done. That message appeared about a week ago.
I also noticed that it promotes Science United, so I suspect that DA posted that message :)
71) Message boards : Number crunching : For what it's worth, SETI@home is officially 21 (Message 2049572)
Posted 18 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I'm guessing between 1000 and 5000 will still be In Progress by the middle of July. Maybe around 500 by the end of July
72) Message boards : Number crunching : For what it's worth, SETI@home is officially 21 (Message 2049534)
Posted 18 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I suspect that Eric may have run the last few hundred on local machines in the lab if they wanted to get the last few Results into the database.
I looked at the top 20 hosts a few days ago, None of them still have any Pendings or Inconclusives left.

There are still tasks In Progress going up to the last week of July, but some of the Workunits have up to 6 Tasks, and every one that I have looked at is already Validated
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8191899&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid= is an example of a few 3 month deadline WU's, there are probably a few others out there.

[Edit]
I just noticed that there could still be WU's In Progress one month before my personal 21st anniversary. I wonder if there will still be any at the end of August :)
73) Message boards : Number crunching : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 2049482)
Posted 17 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Thanks, there are at least 2 others with the same creation date

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8837426&offset=0&show_names=1&state=0&appid=

They're all Validated, but will be around until 15 May, unless https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7989306 comes back to return or abort them.

These are all 10 week deadline tasks, that got sent to 2 unreliable hosts, so they are probably some of the longest.


Just found some new contenders for the Oldest Workunits that still have outstanding Tasks https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8614221

5 WU's from 8th January that got sent to 2 unreliable hosts. They will probably be around until 9th June
There are others that will not finish until the middle of June here https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8926375&offset=0&show_names=0&state=1&appid=
74) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI orphans (Message 2049201)
Posted 14 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Some projects will only allow you to register via BOINC Manager
If this doesn't work, try to find an HTTPS version of the site
75) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2049167)
Posted 14 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
There has been 1 task "Ready to send" for the last few hours, since around 13:30 UTC today, according to SSP and Munin.

I think it is almost certainly a glitch.

Does anyone still have any WU's that still need Validation ?
76) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2049032)
Posted 13 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I think the majority of the ghost units, have now been completed and validated by one of the duplicate replications, however there are probably still some, possibly many, Ghosts in progress

It probably won't be worthwhile doing any personal ghost recovery, because most of those units have been Validated, and are not needed.

A few days ago, the number of Workunits still awaiting results was about 0.12% so there might be about 650 still needed, but the project staff might have processed the last few locally by now

I wonder if anyone still has any Pendings or Inconclusives left ?

I just looked through the top 20 hosts by RAC and there are 0 Pendings and 0 Inconclusives
between any of them !

4 of the top 20 by RAC still have several thousand tasks In Progress, another 4 or 5 just have a few hundred each, I'm guessing that Most of them are probably Ghosts, because they have been in contact with the servers in the last 24 hours.
77) Message boards : Politics : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here 2 (Message 2048899)
Posted 12 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Did this make the news in the USA ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-52619998
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8308287/Interpol-issues-international-arrest-warrant-Harry-Dunns-alleged-killer-Anne-Sacoolas.html
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/may/11/interpol-red-notice-issued-for-arrest-of-anne-sacoolas
78) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc Credit - Cobbles, New, Screws, and Another New Idea? (Message 2048897)
Posted 12 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I think the current situation at SETI is fairly exceptional, most projects don't usually send out 6 tasks when they only need 2 results.

The deadlines should have been cut to 7 or 14 days at the end of March, or earlier.

If a project were to routinely send out more tasks than needed for quorum, they should enable code to reduce Unnecessary waste of time or effort.
Some projects need rapid turnaround, while others can usually wait a few weeks or months for the results.
They can't really change the rules after the tasks have already been sent.
79) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2048896)
Posted 12 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I think it would be 2 or 3 scripts, one of which has been done before

I'm not an expert on the BOINC server code, but I think it is basically switching an option on or off, then updating.

The load on the servers now is probably low enough to turn on the options that were previously off due to excessive load.
80) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2048884)
Posted 11 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Aborting tasks now could case "Too Many errors" state.

If Eric wants the last few results quickly, he could probably make sure that all the Ghosts are re-sent if needed, and then Cancel Unstarted Tasks.

That would probably be more effective.
81) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc Credit - Cobbles, New, Screws, and Another New Idea? (Message 2048870)
Posted 11 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I think when a project issues more tasks than are required for the quorum, once the quorum is met, they should reduce any credit awarded to unnecessary spare tasks a few days after the needed results.

Something like:
Up to 3 days after validation and quorum; 90% of granted credit
Up to 7 days; 50% of granted credit
Over 7 days after validation, but before the deadline 10% of granted credit.

Projects could also give bonus credit for hosts that consistently produce rapid turnaround of tasks. How that should be calculated, I will leave others to discuss.
82) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2048856)
Posted 11 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
795 Workunits waiting for a valid Result out of 653,838 Results out in the field

That's approximately 0.12% of the outstanding Tasks that are needed !
83) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI orphans (Message 2048851)
Posted 11 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
LHC has some SixTrack tasks today, first that I have seen since I rejoined LHC
84) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2048829)
Posted 11 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
The "Result turnaround time (last hour average) " has been greater than 1000 hours a few times that I have looked recently, That's > 6 weeks !
It's currently ~ 827h

I don't think that there is a Munin graph for that parameter, or for "Results waiting for db purging"

I'm guessing that there are probably <1% of the " Results out in the field" that are still needed.

Eric posted a couple of weeks ago on the SETI Facebook group that there were about 17k results needed. At that time it represented about 1.5% of the results in the field.

[Edit] This is the most recent comment that I have seen from Eric.
There are currently 17234 workunits that don't have a validated result. Once they are finished nothing more should go out. During normal operations, that would have been about 10 minutes worth. But a lot of people quit in March without returning their results. We've sent everything out again in an attempt to speed things up. I'd guess a few days more before those most of those results are back and validated.
85) Message boards : News : SETI@home hibernation (Message 2048705)
Posted 9 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I would like to contribute to breakthrough listen - Is this possible, and if it is - How?

You have already been contributing every time you processed a WU that had a BLC prefix

https://breakthroughinitiatives.org/contacts/breakthrough-listen may be helpful.
86) Message boards : Number crunching : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 2048405)
Posted 7 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Thanks, there are at least 2 others with the same creation date

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8837426&offset=0&show_names=1&state=0&appid=

They're all Validated, but will be around until 15 May, unless https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7989306 comes back to return or abort them.

These are all 10 week deadline tasks, that got sent to 2 unreliable hosts, so they are probably some of the longest.
87) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows 10 - Yea or Nay? (2) (Message 2048403)
Posted 7 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I have a quick question about Windows 10 page file.
I know that the size of the file is reset to the recommended size after reboot, but is there any way to reduce the size without rebooting ?

I am running Rosetta on a system with limited disk space, and it fetches tasks successfully after a reboot, but the Swap Page File grows while Rosetta tasks are running.
88) Message boards : News : SETI@home hibernation (Message 2048399)
Posted 7 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
The additional Tasks for each Workunit have been sent out in order to try to get the Canonical Results back more quickly.

If you have a look at your Tasks in Progress, you can see which ones are actually Still Needed

You will still get Credit for Valid Results that are returned before deadline, but SOME of them may have already been Validated.

It's up to you whether you want to continue crunching WU's that are already validated, if you have already started them, you might as well complete them for the Credit, but it would be useful to Prioritize any that are still awaiting Validation.

[Edit]
I just had a look at your In Progress WU's

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3949350541
Is still waiting for a valid result, your only other In Progress task that I could see is already validated. Depending on how many Cores you are using for SETI, try to prioritize 18se10ag.8607.15302.4.31.56_2
89) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2048396)
Posted 7 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:

Slowly picking away at the bones. Less than 900K results in the field, or awaiting validation.

AstroPulse Results out in the field went below 1000 in the last hour.

https://munin.kiska.pw/munin/Munin-Node/Munin-Node/results_setiathomev8_in_progress_validation.html
Results out in the field & Results returned and awaiting validation were almost equal for the last 24h, but Results returned and awaiting validation is now ahead.

90) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2048371)
Posted 7 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Eric's post was https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=85412&postid=2042179#2042179 on 1st April in News.
91) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2048284)
Posted 6 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I see that we have reached less than 1 million results out in the field.

Meow.


2 days later "Results out in the field" 899,998 @ 6 May 2020, 8:00:04 UTC
92) Message boards : Number crunching : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 2048257)
Posted 6 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Is this the oldest WU that hasn't timed out yet ?

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3818342749
93) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2048090)
Posted 4 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I see that we have reached less than 1 million results out in the field.

Meow.


Probably around 1-2% of them are needed to complete the last Workunits according to what Eric posted on FB last week !
94) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2048010)
Posted 3 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Results returned and awaiting validation has just gone below 1 million
Results out in the field is about 24,000 behind

https://munin.kiska.pw/munin/Munin-Node/Munin-Node/results_setiathomev8_in_progress_validation.html

https://munin.kiska.pw/munin/Munin-Node/Munin-Node/results_setiathomev8_hour.html has dropped through the floor in the last 48 hours because of the 24h backoff, with the occasional bursts.

95) Message boards : Number crunching : Anomalous Workunits that won't Validate without intervention. (Message 2047936)
Posted 3 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
This one looks a bit unusual

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3947281072
96) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2047906)
Posted 2 May 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
The 9 billion Workunits of SETl@home
97) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2047699)
Posted 30 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Well Eric has posted on FB that the project will continue to accept results after the last canonical results are in.

For what? Credits? What about the talks like: We are here for the science not for credits. Was just bla bla bla?
If the Science DB is closed, or the canonical was already reached, then anything after that is just a waste of crunching & electric power.
Better abort the rest and switch the host, to where that could be useful, like any other project for example.
my 0.02


That is what I did with about 14 of mine, because I only have a single GPU that can process about 6 tasks per day. I got about 35 GPU tasks and 0 CPU last week. I had a small enough cache to prioritize the necessary work. Only problem was that the aborts reduce the future sending.
My final Valid result on Android was a nessecary result for the quorum too :)
I've still got 80 completed tasks, 0 Pendings or Inconclusives
98) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2047683)
Posted 30 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Well Eric has posted on FB that the project will continue to accept results after the last canonical results are in.

It might have been fairer to grant 75% of original credit up to 3 days after validation, 50% up to 7 days, and 10% up to deadline, when the replication is higher than the quorum.

I think BOINC does have some options for faster cleanup, but the project has to enable them when sending out the re-sends, not when they have already been sent, and there are only 1-2% of wanted results among the million+ still In Progress.
99) Message boards : Number crunching : XML Exports not updating (Message 2047574)
Posted 29 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I would be very appreciative if it could be brought back online, especially if it is not damaged. Angie


I think it's probably on the project staff's to-do list, but they are concentrating their limited resources on completing the final data set for the Science Database.
The project will continue running after their primary objective has been completed
Getting the stats out to external sites is probably a nice thing to have, but not the highest priority while they are working from home.
100) Message boards : Number crunching : XML Exports not updating (Message 2047542)
Posted 29 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
External Stats are powered by the BOINC replica database, which has been Offline for about a week.

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_server_status.php
101) Message boards : News : SETI@home hibernation (Message 2047538)
Posted 29 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Im sorry, im a newbie here. Are project SETI is still alive? My CPU making some work now on SETI.


You will still get BOINC Credits for results that are returned before the deadline, but any results that are already validated are not necessary for the Science Database

The project has been sending duplicates for the last few weeks in order to get a Valid result for each Workunit more quickly.
102) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2047523)
Posted 29 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Eric has posted about how many Tasks or Workunits are still in need of Validation in response to https://www.facebook.com/groups/317689381579505/permalink/3487289331286145/

If you are a Facebook member, you can see his comments.

In summary there are less than 2% of the "Results out in the field" that are still needed, around 17,200 at the time of his post, 9 hours ago.
103) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2047442)
Posted 28 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3916544522

22 hours on my Android tablet, but it's still producing useful results.

3 other re-sends in the last 10 days are still In Progress, 2 of them on GPU's !
104) Message boards : Number crunching : When should SETI start canceling Unneeded Tasks, to reduce Wasted Effort and electricity ? (Message 2047341)
Posted 27 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Look at the Sent date, there were a batch of those around that time, most of them were re-sent later.
105) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2047327)
Posted 27 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I think it is probably around 7.5% of the "Results out in the field" that still need Validation, so possibly just over 100,000 at the moment.

My final Inconclusive was cleared a few hours ago, but then my Android machine got another task. :)
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3916544522
106) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2047323)
Posted 27 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
See https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=85412&postid=2042179#2042179 by Eric K.

RAC>1 is no longer required.
107) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2047143)
Posted 26 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Here's the Top 10 hosts by RAC
I've just used the first 5 columns.

All 8311	IP 0		VP 77	VI 382	V 7144	
ALL 5112	IP 0		VP 54	VI 195	V 4850
ALL 4230	IP 0		VP 33	VI 187	V 4004
ALL 13508	IP 8127		VP 18	VI 178	V 5159
ALL 7042	IP 0		VP 91	VI 313	V 6627
ALL 8787	IP 0		VP 94	VI 344	V 8091
ALL 40850	IP 37889	VP 20	VI 81	V 2688
ALL 2217	IP 400		VP 6	VI 99	V 1707
ALL 3575	IP 0		VP 46	VI 121	V 3399
ALL 3169	IP 0		VP 58	VI 145	V 2952
108) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2047123)
Posted 26 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I just realized a major error in my estimation

I forgot to add all the Valid Workunits that are still waiting for 1 or 2 results to be returned before they are purged.

Those are much higher for most hosts than the number of Pending and Inconclusive WU'S

I think Juan's estimate is probably much closer than my earlier guess.

We need a sample of maybe 50 hosts, and look at how many:
In Progress
Pendings
Inconclusives
Valids awaiting 3rd or 4th place tasks to expire or be returned.
Any others, Invalid or Error, probably less than 1%

This would give a better estimate of how many Tasks or Results are actually still needed to complete the last WU's
109) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2047091)
Posted 26 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Nothing to be crunched and Validation pending (84) · Validation inconclusive (391) · Valid (7203) only.

So i ask if anyone has a clue of how to see what is the real number of WU who rely needs to be crunched before the end?

This number should be very low at this time maybe in the range of 100 K WU only.


I have tried to estimate from the average replication of the Tasks In Progress, WU's In Progress.

It's probably something between 0.5 and 0.333 of the "Results out in the field"

I don't know of a better way to estimate, maybe take a sample of 100 WU's with a large spread of dates, to get a better idea of the average replication.

Most Pendings probably have 3 outstanding Tasks, and most Inconclusives probably 2, so that weighting factor might give a better estimate.
110) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2047068)
Posted 26 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
What is the point of crunching work on a super fast GPU that has already been VALIDATED days ago by 2 or 3 slower hosts ?
The host returns them when it returns them. Do you really expect me to click through all the tasks on the web site one by one to figure out what task have a filled quorum and what tasks do not?


I think the majority of your older tasks are probably already Validated, but a larger amount of your Newest tasks are still waiting.

If you can prioritize the tasks that you have received in the last 7-10 days, then you would probably have a higher hit rate of Needed Tasks instead of 3rd or 4th places.
111) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2046995)
Posted 25 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/317689381579505/permalink/3463142420367503/

Eric's reply is 5th or 6th down.
112) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2046970)
Posted 25 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I've got several like this one - looks like it could be the middle of May before that one's cooked.


Both the_0 and_3 hosts have contacted the servers today, although it looks like the 0 had a batch of ghosts.
I wouldn't hold out much hope for the _1
113) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2046965)
Posted 25 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
At this rate soon they will pass the Results out in the field too. LOL


I think that will probably be at least 24 hours at the current rate.

Average turnaround times are now more than 7 days for both V8 and AstroPulse, they were below 7 days for the last few days.


"Results waiting for db purging" is now ahead of both "Results out in the field" and "Results returned and awaiting validation".

There are now probably between 2 and 3 In Progress tasks for each Workunit, with between 1 and 2 Tasks awaiting validation for each Workunit.
114) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2046911)
Posted 25 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
What is the point of crunching work on a super fast GPU that has already been VALIDATED days ago by 2 or 3 slower hosts ?
The host returns them when it returns them. Do you really expect me to click through all the tasks on the web site one by one to figure out what task have a filled quorum and what tasks do not?


If this project was able to cancel Unnecessary, Unstarted Tasks then you wouldn't need to.
I can see that it is impossible to do that manually.

I was trying to be considerate of people's electrical bills, when I suggested that a few days ago.
Then the NEEDED results would be returned more quickly.
115) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2046906)
Posted 25 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
So why not set NNT and allow the rest of us the chance to get a few?



I suppose everyone want to "crunch the last WU"


Well 2 out of my last 5 Tasks were USEFUL, because they helped to complete Workunits that still needed Validation

What is the point of crunching work on a super fast GPU that has already been VALIDATED days ago by 2 or 3 slower hosts ?

I would estimate that around 90% of Mr 1337's tasks In Progress are already validated !

My final Pending https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3953270075 was one of 7 that had him as the original wingman. The other 6 are already validated days ago, but the 1337 guy still hasn't got around to them yet !
116) Message boards : Number crunching : Computers not showing up "No such computer" for 2+ days (Message 2046831)
Posted 24 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I expect that the staff will get it working again eventually

I think the SETI Beta project was down for about a week
That came back online around the same time that the Replica went offline
Probably a coincidence, but maybe not.

[Edit]
Congratulations on your recent milestone, I see that you have just passed 1 million total SETI credit.
117) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2046758)
Posted 24 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Will they send out one last wave of forced resends? I still have Validation inconclusive WUs that need a third wingman


I think at this stage, it might be more effective to Cancel unstarted Tasks for Workunits that are Already Validated.
There are probably now more than 100,000 Tasks still In Progress that are not needed.

This might help more quickly than just sending out more
The ones In the field will probably be returned eventually, but they might be waiting for their Hosts to process unnecessary duplicates first !
118) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2046730)
Posted 24 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
At this rate soon they will pass the Results out in the field too. LOL


I think that will probably be at least 24 hours at the current rate.

Average turnaround times are now more than 7 days for both V8 and AstroPulse, they were below 7 days for the last few days.
119) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2046717)
Posted 24 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
"Results waiting for db purging" may exceed " Results returned and awaiting validation" in the next few hours !
120) Message boards : Number crunching : Why this WU validation is inconclusive? (Message 2046633)
Posted 23 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
It's usually because 2 different GPU s got very slightly different overflow results

I see that in this case one is GPU and the 2nd result returned is CPU

One of the other tasks should be a tie-breaker.
121) Message boards : Number crunching : When should SETI start canceling Unneeded Tasks, to reduce Wasted Effort and electricity ? (Message 2046549)
Posted 23 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Hm, why do you infere there are some unneeded tasks here?
We work with quorum of >1 so secondary result required for validation, to see that computations were correct ones.
There are quite a lot of examples when device with broken driver returns seemingly "valid" result that actually just noise.
So quorum should be set to >1.

Besides that "all tasks are equal" :)


I mean the Tasks which are connected with Workunits that are Already Validated, and already have a Canonical Result
Only those should be cancelled if not already started on the Client

This would be useful to clients like https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8652081
I know that client has at least 5 Tasks in Progress that are Unneeded because they were part of my pendings for the last few weeks :)
122) Message boards : Number crunching : When should SETI start canceling Unneeded Tasks, to reduce Wasted Effort and electricity ? (Message 2046539)
Posted 23 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Now that many of the Workunits in the BOINC Database have been Validated, but still have outstanding Tasks or Results waiting to be returned, it might be useful for the project to start Canceling Tasks that are not needed.

I believe that there are at least 2 ways that this can be done:
"Cancel if Not Started", probably the best option to use, because it doesn't waste work already done on slow clients
"Cancel unconditionally", I don't recommend this, because it would be unfair to those who have partly completed work that should get Credit.

If the Project Staff can do this, it would save time in getting the Wanted Results back more quickly, because all clients that contact the servers regularly could concentrate on Needed Tasks, instead of continuing to process unnecessary duplicates.
123) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2046473)
Posted 23 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I may have got this wrong, but it seems to be in the right ball park.


You’ve got it wrong. The results waiting for purging are already out of the waiting for validation queue and have already been assimilated.


OK, thanks.

I know that Workunits, Tasks and Results are not interchangeable, but there should be a way of estimating the Units that have now reached Quorum, even though they still have outstanding Tasks, and the Units that are still awaiting validation.
124) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2046470)
Posted 23 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:

I see that regularly on WCG, so there is such an option. But the client in question must be alive, and actually do the cancelling after the server request.


Thanks, I thought I had seen it before.

I think there may be over 1 million tasks in this condition now "Results waiting for db purging" out of the total "Results returned and awaiting validation"

I'm sure that value has been increasing significantly over the last few days, but I can't find a Munin graph for it. https://munin.kiska.pw/munin/setiathome-day.html


Are these the graphs you seek?

https://munin.kiska.pw/munin/Munin-Node/Munin-Node/workunits_setiathomev8.html


No, the labels on some of the graphs are a bit misleading.

"Results waiting for db purging" has just passed 1.25 million.

If you subtract that value from "Results returned and awaiting validation" the result appears to be the number of Workunits or Tasks that have not reached Quorum.

I may have got this wrong, but it seems to be in the right ball park.
125) Message boards : Number crunching : What would you do? I haven't yet purchased a 3950X processor due to our current pandemic, what should I buy as an alternative to get my 2nd rig going, or upgade my 1st rig? (Message 2046458)
Posted 23 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I think a page like https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/List_of_projects_by_system_requirements would be useful if it was updated !
126) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI orphans (Message 2046451)
Posted 23 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Rosetta is possibly the most inefficient, wasteful project in BOINC
It's like the old days of LHC
I remember now why I stopped running Rosetta and RALPH in the past!
Their project scientists and administration are not very responsive to user suggestions and comments as well
See some of my old comments from 10 years ago in both projects forums.
I don't think it has got much better !
127) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : SpaceX ready to launch again. (Message 2046400)
Posted 22 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Another Starlink launch due today 19:30 UTC

[Edit]
Launch was successful, and the 1st stage landing too.
128) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2046328)
Posted 22 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I think the Unknowns may be Ghost tasks that have been cancelled.

I understand that this will only be helpful for big caches, but it should be helpful to reduce wasted effort, by ensuring that their tasks waiting to be processed are still needed.

The remainder will eventually time out, in weeks or months, if they never contact the servers again.
129) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2046321)
Posted 22 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:

I see that regularly on WCG, so there is such an option. But the client in question must be alive, and actually do the cancelling after the server request.


Thanks, I thought I had seen it before.

I think there may be over 1 million tasks in this condition now "Results waiting for db purging" out of the total "Results returned and awaiting validation"

I'm sure that value has been increasing significantly over the last few days, but I can't find a Munin graph for it. https://munin.kiska.pw/munin/setiathome-day.html
130) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2046315)
Posted 22 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
@Richard H

Is there an option in BOINC code to Cancel unstarted tasks which have already met Quorum ?

I'm fairly sure that I have seen this used before on some other projects, possibly LHC

This would help some of the owners of machines with very large, multi day caches to continue to reduce the backlog quicker, while not needing to process unnecessary work.

I have a few examples here https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8800543&offset=0&show_names=1&state=0&appid= from 31/3.
There are only 7, so they are quite easy to see.
131) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2046218)
Posted 21 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
[As of 21 Apr 2020, 21:30:03 UTC] Results out in the field 1,999,093



https://munin.kiska.pw/munin/Munin-Node/Munin-Node/results_setiathomev8_in_progress_validation.html
132) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2046189)
Posted 21 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Replica Database is offline.
133) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2046126)
Posted 21 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Thanks, I'm in that group.
I found Eric too.
His FB account is the one with the yellow T shirt.
134) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2046120)
Posted 21 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
It's in a post in the FB Seti@home forum. It's in a reply to someone asking why resends were coming out lasts night. I can't link to the the direct post. You would have to go to the FB forum and then look for it. I saw it 4 hours ago since it was in reply to one of the other admins.


What's the exact name of the Facebook group or page please ?
There are about 5 or 6 large ones, I think I am in most of them.
135) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2046113)
Posted 21 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Are we going to have another feeding festival tonight? Any bets?


I think it's unlikely for the next 24 hours, they probably want to see what the Results in the field are doing for a while.
Maybe when that approaches 2 million, or Results returned starts dropping, they might decide to make another intervention.

Just my guess.
136) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2046104)
Posted 21 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
How long can we expect to get these straggling work units?
If they don't do anything to speed things up, up to another 6 months, in ever decreasing numbers.


I think 2.5 months is probably closer.

I think, when the number of unvalidated tasks in the field drops below about 5000 to 10000, they can probably run them locally in a few hours or days
Maybe just the last few hundred will be run locally.

There are still just over 2.3 mil, but that seems to have reached a peak about 5 hours ago.

https://munin.kiska.pw/munin/Munin-Node/Munin-Node/results_setiathomev8_in_progress_validation.html

137) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Kepler 1649c (Message 2045992)
Posted 20 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
https://www.space.com/earth-size-exoplanet-habitable-zone-kepler.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler-1649c

https://astronomy.com/news/2020/04/earth-sized-habitable-zone-exoplanet-found-hiding-in-kepler-data
138) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2045928)
Posted 20 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Anyone else just get a flood of units? My 8 core system is full of them currently. Most start with "16mr20ae.XXX" there is also a "blc64_2bit_guppi_XXX" and "ap_24mr20XXX" unit

https://munin.kiska.pw/munin/Munin-Node/Munin-Node/results_setiathomev8_in_progress_validation.html



The Project Staff have started to do preemptive re-sends on some of the Workunits that have been waiting for a few weeks.
Take a look at some of these and you should see that the re-sends are now going out a few weeks earlier than the expected time out.

This image might illustrate it a bit better.

139) Message boards : Number crunching : Anomalous Workunits that won't Validate without intervention. (Message 2045899)
Posted 19 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
How about the first 2 that I originally highlighted ?
They appear to be stuck until a _2 or _3 is created, But nothing has happened to them on the servers since 8th April !
140) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2045892)
Posted 19 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Happy Birthday Bernie !!
141) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2045887)
Posted 19 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
It might also be a good time to consider dropping the deadlines to something like 14 days for all future re-sends.
Such a sudden reduction in deadlines could be problematic for many hosts. Especially those that also crunch other projects that already have
short deadlines. If such a host suddenly receives a big bunch of shorter than expected deadline Seti resends, it could find itself in a situation where it can't crunch them and all the other project even shorter deadline tasks in time. Normal long deadline seti tasks allow the client to see in advance if there is congestion in the future and throttle download of new tasks from the other projects.

Bursty nature of this setiathome decay phase is already challenging for boinc client scheduling. A sudden deadline drop would make it even worse.

And most of hosts that are likely to go MIA have already done so and the remaining ones are likely going to stay to the bitter end, so the chance for a task to actually hit those long deadlines becomes lower and lower diminishing the potential gains from a deadline reduction.


I can see that it could be a problem for some. :)
Both of my active machines have received plenty of SETI work today to last for several days, I have dropped the requests on Android to 2 days, instead of 14; My Windows machine is still looking for up to 20 days of work, but a lot of the re-sends we are getting now are running close to the estimated time, instead of bombing out after 90 seconds.
142) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2045885)
Posted 19 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Also, the data phase has been 20 years long. Will it really help things to swing a hammer around in hopes of reducing the taper from 6 weeks to 4?


It's one of the many configuration options in https://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/ProjectOptions
I know that some of the other BOINC projects that I have crunched for in the past, sometimes use this option
I seem to remember that SIMAP used to use it regularly.

Of course, if SETI doesn't have Nebula ready yet, and can wait a few more months for the last few results to time out and arrive eventually, then [Accelerating retries] might not be necessary here.
The Project Staff could probably clean up the very last Workunits locally as well.
143) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2045865)
Posted 19 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
But they are purged 'n' hours after the final replication has been declared 'over' - reported, timed out, cancelled or whatever.
'n' used to be 24 hours: during the non-normal times earlier this year it was substantially reduced.
It was reduced to 1 hour or near 1 hour to reduce the database bloat and still hasn't been returned back to 24 hours although the database is nice and lean now. This makes it hard to see what happens to my results because they disappear so fast after returning :(


Agreed

When Eric is making his next adjustments, it would be great if he could put them back to 24h.

It might also be a good time to consider dropping the deadlines to something like 14 days for all future re-sends.


I also posted about "Anomalous Workunits that won't Validate without intervention" https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=85459, a few days ago. I'm fairly sure that the 2 that I noticed are not the only stuck Workunits in the database, no _2 generated after an abnormal exit.
144) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI orphans (Message 2045850)
Posted 19 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
ARP appears to be Africa Rainfall

https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/research/viewAllProjects.do
145) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2045835)
Posted 19 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Well, it does appear to be bringing the "Results returned and awaiting validation" and "Results out in the field" in to line with each other.




I don't remember the actual values, but my Pendings appear to have almost halved (roughly 1500 to 840), and my Valids over ten times what they were (40 or so to almost 500) and Inconclusives almost 3 times higher (roughly 80 to 230).


If you use the custom zoom settings on https://munin.kiska.pw/munin/Munin-Node/Munin-Node/results_setiathomev8_in_progress_validation.html and https://munin.kiska.pw/munin/Munin-Node/Munin-Node/results_setiathomev8_creation.html, you can get some more meaningful insights for the past 48 hours or so.
This is a custom zoom from one of those pages.
You can see that the "Results returned and awaiting validation" is now slightly below "Results out in the field" for SETI@home v8 although AstroPulse results are still a bit behind, probably for different reasons.
146) Message boards : Number crunching : The last day of S@H (Message 2045773)
Posted 19 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:

Woohoo! :) Finally! :) Some time last night My main (my only host left connected to SETI) got roughly 250 tasks to chew on. :)

Siran


Congratulations! You probably got them at a time when you hadn't pushed the Update button in the previous 30 minutes.

The client backoff doesn't allow work fetch, if you keep hitting that button!

Both of my active machines are now crunching other projects as well, but have received a few SETI tasks on most of the last 7days, I think the best day was 18 tasks, most of which were noise overflows.

I have SETI on 10+10 on my Windows machine, and 7+7 on Android. I just have to be be VERY careful, when I want to fetch new work for Rosetta or Einstein, that I change the work fetch down to 0.5 before turning off NNT for other projects.
147) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2045498)
Posted 18 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
https://munin.kiska.pw/munin/setiathome-day.html

Sorry, try it without the duplication

148) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2045487)
Posted 17 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
It would be smarter to send those n days after the last scheduler contact of the pending cruncher than n days before the deadline. If a host hasn't contacted the servers after the faucets were closed, the task is unlikely to be returned and should be resent now even if its deadline is in June.


Eric is probably making small adjustments, and watching the results, before making the next change
I expect we will probably see a few more in the next few days, as long as the results of the previous ones give positive results.
149) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2045481)
Posted 17 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My Pendings (& to a lesser extent Inconclusives) are slowly falling. But my Valids keep increasing. They're Valid, but still waiting for another Result (or two) to be returned. Late May, early June for the vast majority before they are resent. A couple for mid June.


I just looked at your computers, it looks like we have already gone up to 7 days before deadline.

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3911459894


150) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2045476)
Posted 17 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
If they are sending resends early thus shortening the deadline, they don't need to send to specific machines. The resends of the resends will be sent quicker. Thus they avoid the whole who to send it to can-of-worms (you know someone would complain).
Unless one of them goes to a zombie machine that happens to make contact at that time.
Makes more sense to reduce the Deadline for resends, and resend ones after they've been out for a month, not just a few days before they are due to being resent after already being out there for 3 months.
But i guess every little bit does help.


Maybe Eric is taking things in "baby steps", I assume that it's probably Eric running the scripts.
He may want to see the results of increasing from 24h to 72h, before going to a larger value eg 168h or greater.
151) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2045471)
Posted 17 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:

So now the WU is waiting for two tasks before it can be assimilated and purged.

The Minimum Quorum is still 2, But the Replication is now > Quorum

So only 1 more task is needed to reach Quorum, unless a tie-breaker is needed, which could be any of the results "in the field", including the Expired one.
152) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2045463)
Posted 17 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
They're trying to speed up the returns so that they can get the science completed quicker.


Go give Dr. A posts on how he plans on analyzing the data a read. I have. They aren't going to have this done anytime in any kind of near future.


From what I have seen of DA's ability to write a simple web page https://scienceunited.org/trac/wiki/ProjectPeople, I'm not very confident of that !
153) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2045446)
Posted 17 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Forced resends?? They trying to speed up the returns so they can turn off the servers quicker??


They're trying to speed up the returns so that they can get the science completed quicker.
154) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2045444)
Posted 17 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
https://munin.kiska.pw/munin/static/dynazoom.html?cgiurl_graph=/munin-cgi/munin-cgi-graph&plugin_name=Munin-Node/Munin-Node/results_setiathomev8_in_progress_validation&size_x=800&size_y=400&start_epoch=1587038878&stop_epoch=1587146878

155) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2045443)
Posted 17 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
We were getting extra re-sends around 24 hours before the timeouts, it looks like Eric, or whoever, has increased that to 72 Hours
156) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2045441)
Posted 17 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Results out in the field 1,998,795 As of 16 Apr 2020, 10:40:04 UTC


Results out in the field 1,900,221 As of 17 Apr 2020, 14:00:04 UTC
Results out in the field 1,899,542 As of 17 Apr 2020, 14:10:03 UTC

So it's taken around 27 hours to return 100,000


Results out in the field 2,019,818 As of 17 Apr 2020, 17:40:03 UTC

So we are back above 2mil again !

I think AstroPulse in the field has gone up too

Does someone have a link to the server graphs please ?...

[Edit] Found them

https://munin.kiska.pw/munin/setiathome-day.htmlhttps://munin.kiska.pw/munin/setiathome-day.html
157) Message boards : Number crunching : Anomalous Workunits that won't Validate without intervention. (Message 2045433)
Posted 17 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Hi, I was looking through some recent Tasks and WU's from a few of the top contributors to this project, when I spotted these 2:

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3948118974
and
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3948381306

I'm wondering if there might be others like this, where a _2 or higher replication has not been created after an unsuccessful outcome ?

I'm sure Eric K is probably busy, so I didn't want to bother him about just these 2, but I think it would be useful if the Project Staff were made aware of unusual events like this.

I suggest that if you spot any more WU's or Tasks that need intervention, please post them here, so that whatever script needs to be run can be used at an appropriate time.
158) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2045407)
Posted 17 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Results out in the field 1,998,795 As of 16 Apr 2020, 10:40:04 UTC


Results out in the field 1,900,221 As of 17 Apr 2020, 14:00:04 UTC
Results out in the field 1,899,542 As of 17 Apr 2020, 14:10:03 UTC

So it's taken around 27 hours to return 100,000
159) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2045197)
Posted 16 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Results out in the field 1,998,795 As of 16 Apr 2020, 10:40:04 UTC
160) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2045003)
Posted 15 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
The answer should be obvious, CREDITS! lol ;)


SETI gives low credits compared to other projects. if someone was only after BOINC credits they'd crunch something useless like Collatz...


I've never attached to Collatz, but I did visit their website, and the admin has recommended that people switch to other projects for the moment ! https://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/forum_thread.php?id=167
161) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2044993)
Posted 15 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Maybe a wise thing to do is abort and resend with a small dateline all the WU from hosts who last contact was before april 1.
If a host has not contact with the servers in the last 15 days is highly probable is a powered down host.
Just a suggestion.


If the Project Staff were in the lab, and not working from home, then it might be worthwhile.

.CA is still on lockdown as far as I know https://covid19.ca.gov/ so they may want to wait until they are back.

Yes that i know, we are on lockdown too, but in this times you not need to be physically close to the servers to work with them.
And AFAIK the lab guys are already making and runs some scripts remotely.


They might decide to cancel Tasks in the next week or so if they get a Canonical Result, which might upset a few people who have cached thousands of WUs :) but it might upset some very slow crunchers too.
Are people like the "1337" guy, and a few others; here to get the science completed as quickly as possible, or are they just here for the BOINC credits ?
162) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2044988)
Posted 15 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My host 8670176 got the batch which started this conversation this morning. Four have been completed and validated, and are still visible after a longer wait that usual in recent times. One more is ready to report, and I've picked up another task.


Take a look at my TR, specifically the valid tasks, most if not all of them are awaiting another to return a result.

Those that have gone out to more than one machine and all have returned them expire within a very short time.

Unfortunately where they are sending to multiple machines they are not shortening the deadlines so that even when these tasks are validated they may continue to hang around for a long time.


I think it is getting a Canonical Result into the Science Database which is the higher priority.
Emptying the BOINC Database may not finish for a few weeks (or months) after the last Valid Results have been returned.
There are still over 2 million results and tasks out "in the field"; maybe when that drops below a few hundred thousand, the plan might change.

At the current rate of return on the SSP, most of the results should be back in about 17 days.
163) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2044984)
Posted 15 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Maybe a wise thing to do is abort and resend with a small dateline all the WU from hosts who last contact was before april 1.
If a host has not contact with the servers in the last 15 days is highly probable is a powered down host.
Just a suggestion.


If the Project Staff were in the lab, and not working from home, then it might be worthwhile.

.CA is still on lockdown as far as I know https://covid19.ca.gov/ so they may want to wait until they are back.
164) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2044972)
Posted 15 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My host 8670176 got the batch which started this conversation this morning. Four have been completed and validated, and are still visible after a longer wait that usual in recent times. One more is ready to report, and I've picked up another task.


We're effectively back to the old replication and quorum levels that SETI had back in 2007 when I first started using BOINC

My very first post on NC https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=37367 is worth a read as it attracted responses from some distinguished forum members, including Joe Segur

I only recently learned that Joe died in 2015. RIP Joe



I started https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3898489118 before the 2nd result had been returned, but my result was " Credit value only" not needed for the science !

If you look at that old thread from 2007, SETI was handing out a lot more work than was needed when it was Replication 4, Quorum 3
165) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2044950)
Posted 15 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3947300995 , also one of mine shows where this policy should work. My Windows machine is relatively a tortoise compared to some of the "big boys", but it usually produces the decider on many Validation Inconclusive Wus
Yes, that's the way it should go - and it happens to be a short-deadline VHAR, as well.

But I don't hold out a lot of hope for your new extra wingmate on WU 3893947696.


995 should return in less than 2 hours, it's currently running on my single Intel GPU, wall clock time is counting down at about the correct rate :-)
ETA before 11:00 UTC


https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3947300995 Completed and Validated
My _3 was the deciding tie-breaker

Results will probably be purged in under 2 hours


Now gone, but I did save a copy in offline Chrome
166) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2044938)
Posted 15 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My host 8670176 got the batch which started this conversation this morning. Four have been completed and validated, and are still visible after a longer wait that usual in recent times. One more is ready to report, and I've picked up another task.


We're effectively back to the old replication and quorum levels that SETI had back in 2007 when I first started using BOINC

My very first post on NC https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=37367 is worth a read as it attracted responses from some distinguished forum members, including Joe Segur
I only recently learned that Joe died in 2015. RIP Joe
167) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2044931)
Posted 15 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3947300995 , also one of mine shows where this policy should work. My Windows machine is relatively a tortoise compared to some of the "big boys", but it usually produces the decider on many Validation Inconclusive Wus
Yes, that's the way it should go - and it happens to be a short-deadline VHAR, as well.

But I don't hold out a lot of hope for your new extra wingmate on WU 3893947696.


995 should return in less than 2 hours, it's currently running on my single Intel GPU, wall clock time is counting down at about the correct rate :-)
ETA before 11:00 UTC


https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3947300995 Completed and Validated
My _3 was the deciding tie-breaker

Results will probably be purged in under 2 hours
168) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2044918)
Posted 15 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3947300995 , also one of mine shows where this policy should work. My Windows machine is relatively a tortoise compared to some of the "big boys", but it usually produces the decider on many Validation Inconclusive Wus
Yes, that's the way it should go - and it happens to be a short-deadline VHAR, as well.

But I don't hold out a lot of hope for your new extra wingmate on WU 3893947696.


995 should return in less than 2 hours, it's currently running on my single Intel GPU, wall clock time is counting down at about the correct rate :-)
ETA before 11:00 UTC
169) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2044902)
Posted 15 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
It looks like some, but not all WU's are getting a preemptive, extra task, around 24 hours before the timeout.

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8917043, my Windows machine currently has 3 like this from yesterday.

https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3947300995 , also one of mine shows where this policy should work. My Windows machine is relatively a tortoise compared to some of the "big boys", but it usually produces the decider on many Validation Inconclusive Wus
170) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2044807)
Posted 14 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Finally the splitters status shows disabled in the SSP.


I was wondering when that would happen.

Next SSP milestone is probably "Results out in the field" dropping below 2,000,000 which will probably occur in a little more than 12 hours

Ready to send seems to be back in touch with reality after the 4000+ myths a few hours ago.


In other news, the "1337" cruncher now has well under 50K tasks in progress, currently around 49.4K, and, I can see all of my tasks for both active crunchers on a single page.

My SETI RAC has now dropped below 1000 after a few weeks above for the first time ever, peak was around 1300
171) Message boards : Number crunching : Days of future past, or what would you like to see in SETI 2.0 (Message 2044778)
Posted 14 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
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Tasks that run for at least 30 minutes on the fastest crunchers, but no more than 7-14 days on the slowest

Deadlines that expect an average of 4-8 hours per day crunching on slower hosts

BTW, I think this will be more like V 10.0 than 2.0
172) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2044737)
Posted 14 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Well the SETI servers appear to be back, but now the BOINC site is MIA !

I had just posted a message that took 20 minutes to compose which may have gone into a black hole !

I am trying to give some feedback about an Android bug if the number of tasks on the device exceeds 100 or probably 32

[Edit] BOINC server is back, and my post made it before the server went down :)

I must remember to keep an offline copy when typing a long post in future !
173) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI orphans (Message 2044639)
Posted 13 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Please correct me if I'm wrong in Rosetta operation understanding.

It sends data to compute as many possible protein configurations/docking configurations as length of CPU run allows.
Default is 8h. And user can change it. So, if user allows more hours to run, already downloaded database and particular protein data will be used more fully. If time is short, some another user gets same data to continue modeling. Hence, if deadline allows better to use longer run times.
And if deadline miss occurs user can shorten allowable task computation time to avoid deadline miss (but project will need to resend data somewhere else to get full results).
Is it correct?


Yes, You can adjust"Target Runtime" here https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/prefs.php?subset=project The default is 8 hours, you can select anything from 2 to 36 hours.

There is a fair amount of discussion on some old Rosetta threads if you search.

I used contribute to the RALPH project https://ralph.bakerlab.org/ as well as Rosetta.
RALPH is Rosetta Alpha.
RALPH message boards also have more discussion about the fine tuning of Rosetta.
174) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2044629)
Posted 13 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I think it might be time to reduce the client backoff to 3 or 5 minutes instead of 30, now that the servers have recovered from panic mode.
Hitting the Update button still works between scheduled requests
Obviously if this starts causing problems, then 30 or 15 might still be appropriate
175) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2044495)
Posted 13 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Out in the field is more interesting anyway to me. As long as this is above 0, there's still a chance to grab a new WU :)


The ones "In the field" have already been sent out, and being processed by users
Ready to send shows the likelihood of getting a new task.
176) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2044493)
Posted 13 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Results out in the field @ 01:30 UTC 2,260,425

Results out in the field @ 09:30 UTC 2,249,424

Results out in the field @ 10:00 UTC 2,247,061

Results returned and awaiting validation @ 01:30 UTC 4,003,383

Results returned and awaiting validation @ 09:30 UTC 2,478,632

Results returned and awaiting validation @ 10:00 UTC 2,476,702

So the Validation backlog is now just about caught up. I think it's usually 24 hours that Valid results are visible on user and host pages.
177) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2044443)
Posted 12 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8652081&offset=52360&show_names=0&state=1&appid= is no longer a valid link, because the host has returned a few hundred results in the last few hours.

If you edit the URL, and remove about a thousand from the Offset Value, you should get a valid link.
178) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2044429)
Posted 12 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
once the assimilation queue hits 0, the numbers in the "results returned and awaiting validation" queue will stop going down so fast and trend very closely with the results out in the field value.


Yes, at the current rate, that should arrive in 12-18 hours
179) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2044421)
Posted 12 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Let the cleanup commence on Monday afternoon.

For the cleanup to commence do we not require tasks to timeout and then be re-sent?


It depends on "bunkering" hosts like this https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8652081&offset=52360&show_names=0&state=1&appid=

Over 52K tasks in progress, with the oldest ones from 4th March !
My Android machine has 8 tasks pending, 7 of them are waiting on https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8652081

I read what you are saying. For these to be re-sent though unless there is intervention from from admin staff tasks have to reach their expiry date don't they?


Well the owner of that machine is a very active poster in NC, including this thread, I wonder if he would like to comment on how long it will be before his"bunker" will be empty !
180) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2044416)
Posted 12 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Let the cleanup commence on Monday afternoon.

For the cleanup to commence do we not require tasks to timeout and then be re-sent?


It depends on "bunkering" hosts like this https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8652081&offset=52360&show_names=0&state=1&appid=

Over 52K tasks in progress, with the oldest ones from 4th March !
My Android machine has 8 tasks pending, 7 of them are waiting on https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8652081
181) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2044410)
Posted 12 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Results awaiting Validation will soon be below 10,000,000

[Edit] Has just dropped below 10,000,000

10,306,215 @ 16:00 UTC

10,243,529 @ 16:30 UTC

10,012,585 @ 17:40 UTC

9,985,028 @ 17:50 UTC

9,820,448 @ 18:50 UTC


Should be below 5,000,000 by midnight 22:00 UTC

5,544,838 @ 17:30
5,483,899 @ 17:50
5,417,239 @ 18:10 UTC
5,260,149 @ 19:00 UTC
5,246,814 @ 19:10 UTC


4,987,664 @ 20:30 UTC
182) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2044394)
Posted 12 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Results awaiting Validation will soon be below 10,000,000

[Edit] Has just dropped below 10,000,000

10,306,215 @ 16:00 UTC

10,243,529 @ 16:30 UTC

10,012,585 @ 17:40 UTC

9,985,028 @ 17:50 UTC

9,820,448 @ 18:50 UTC


Should be below 5,000,000 by midnight 22:00 UTC

5,544,838 @ 17:30
5,483,899 @ 17:50
5,417,239 @ 18:10 UTC
5,260,149 @ 19:00 UTC
5,246,814 @ 19:10 UTC[/s]
183) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2044281)
Posted 11 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
So will this be starting back up, or is that it?


It's likely that there will be something from SETI at some time in the future, but it might be more than a year in the future.

For the next few weeks you might catch an occasional re-sent task now and then.

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php has details of most of the other BOINC projects, that you might want to look at if you wish to continue contributing to one or more other science projects.
This will keep BOINC occupied, and you should continue to get notified by SETI of what is happening in the future, and the results of the last few years we have contributed.
184) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2044261)
Posted 11 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Results awaiting Validation will soon be below 10,000,000

[Edit] Has just dropped below 10,000,000

10,306,215 @ 16:00 UTC

10,243,529 @ 16:30 UTC

10,012,585 @ 17:40 UTC

9,985,028 @ 17:50 UTC

9,820,448 @ 18:50 UTC
185) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2044127)
Posted 10 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My oldest valid task awaiting assimilation is over 16 days since both results were returned :
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3944544179

I'm fairly sure that someone can beat that !


That one has gone now, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3944893567 should go in the next 6-12 hours or less

Seems like 16 days is the average assimilation delay on recent tasks at the moment.
186) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2044072)
Posted 10 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My oldest valid task awaiting assimilation is over 16 days since both results were returned :
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3944544179

I'm fairly sure that someone can beat that !
187) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2043936)
Posted 10 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
That is the problem that I am having with 7 CPU only machines that ran out of work on the 4th of April. The only project that they run is Seti. What do I change to get them to ask for work more often than once or twice a day. Please keep in mind that I am not a computer genius, so a simple explanation would be appreciated. Thank you. Angie.


It depends on available RAM and Disk space, https://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php gives details of other BOINC projects.
Someone else can probably advise the best way to adjust Resource Share better than I can, it's a long time since I changed it.
188) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2043935)
Posted 10 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
If you set a very high Resourse Share to SETI vs. other projects, eg 1000:1 your system should continue to attempt to get work from SETI every 30 minutes as far as I know.


. . Yes, I have noticed that the default backoff has been increased yet again, it seems it is no longer 10 mins (606 Secs) but is now 30 mins (1818 Seconds). This makes it very hard to get lucky in the 'get more work' lottery. Not that I was getting much (or any) when it ws 10 mins.

Stephen

:(


I'm not sure if this change was done in order to reduce the load on the servers to an acceptable level, and whether it might be reverted if they can cope in the next few days
The Replica Database is looking in better shape than it has for the last few weeks
My Windows machine has now run out of SETI work, My Android tablet still has 8 tasks in progress, 2 will finish in a few hours, but I switch between 8, 4, or 2 cores according to what else I am doing
I've added Rosetta and LHC to one of them, and will probably do the same to the other when I get to the last few SETI tasks.
189) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2043886)
Posted 9 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
They should have changed the deadlines to 1 week or something when the announced the hibernation for this very reason.

I have been living with a 2 day deadline for the last 5 years. My MAC is so powerful that I can only grab a total of 200 work units which between the processors and GPU will only keep it busy for 2 days. I didn't really care in the past because I just wanted enough to ride out an extended outage however I have fallen back to my alternate project even though there is still work to do here. As my computer has reached the point where it's checking in once a day, it's likely I have seen my last work unit here unless a massive amount is freed up.

The odds are this isn't the only hoarder out there as software like this tends to exist in the underground. If enough people did it, this may be one of the reasons why the project required such a large server just to service our computers.


If you set a very high Resourse Share to SETI vs. other projects, eg 1000:1 your system should continue to attempt to get work from SETI every 30 minutes as far as I know.

I would welcome comments on the best way to do this from the experts.
190) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2043618)
Posted 8 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3801509572 just completed by my Windows machine.

It was originally sent out last December,
191) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2043513)
Posted 7 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
All of my GPU tasks are now_2 or greater, including my first AstroPulse on SETI main project. I previously ran a few AstroPulse on Beta

I've still got 7 CPU tasks from initial replication on Windows, and about 10 on my 8 core Android tablet.

I might even put one of my 8 core Android TV boxes back to work to pick up a few re-sends
192) Message boards : News : Final data is in the splitter queue. (Message 2042774)
Posted 3 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Oh - one more thing - if some future project does happen, how will we be notified of it?

-Todd


If you are continuing to run other BOINC projects, just stay attached to SETI. You will probably continue to receive occasional re-sends for the next few weeks, and you should still get important notices.
193) Message boards : Politics : Coronavirus, Ebola and Infectious diseases, Food & Drugs, Studies, Recalls #6 (Message 2042450)
Posted 2 Apr 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Did someone in the leadership of Extinction Rebellion watch 12 Monkeys ?
194) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2041421)
Posted 29 Mar 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
It looks like User Tasks are back on the Replica database, it's about 4.5 days behind at the moment.
195) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2041113)
Posted 28 Mar 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Yep. I'm just going through the tasks I have and making sure the _2 and _1 are prioritized and running first. Maybe we can force a small kick on the system by trying to clear out the DB???

Edit: My room is so much colder now.


_1 and _0 are original, normal tasks

_2 or greater are the re-sends.
196) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2040896)
Posted 27 Mar 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My Windows host just got 31 new tasks, only 2 were _2
All Arecibo, all downloaded successfully.
About 10 minutes ago.

Most previous requests in the last 24 hours on this machine got 0. My 8 core Android tablet got about 5 overnight.
197) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2040702)
Posted 27 Mar 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=3946507571

Mine is the _2

I have had the task for around 24 hours.
It was my only _2 so I checked it when the results list caught up, Validated in around 30 minutes.
198) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2040610)
Posted 26 Mar 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
They are preparing us for the next week.
I wonder what will be the exact time when the work distribution stops. They have only said it is on the 31st but will it happen when the 31st starts or when it ends or somewhere in between? Or will they just stop adding files so it will end on some unspecified time when the splitters run out of files to split?


Pacific time or UTC ? :-)
199) Message boards : Number crunching : The Server Issues / Outages Thread - Panic Mode On! (119) (Message 2040140)
Posted 24 Mar 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Replica is now more than 300,000 seconds behind

Everything else seems ok for me

I have noticed that I only have 2 blc tasks left, but I still have plenty of Arecibo tasks
200) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 20th Anniversary T-shirts - More in stock (Message 2032835)
Posted 17 Feb 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I'd be interested in a large tee, if they're still available.

Thanks, Slaine.


Hi Slaine, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=5509 Richard Haselgrove may be your best contact in the UK.

I paid Uli via PayPal, and Richard shipped from Yorkshire to me in the London area. It's a lot cheaper than the shipping cost from California

I got mine a few days later by regular Royal Mail delivery

Keith.
201) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Dr Helen Sharman (Message 2026590)
Posted 6 Jan 2020 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Interview this weekend with Britain's first astronaut / cosmonaut

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/jan/05/astronaut-helen-sharman-this-much-i-know

Aliens exist, there’s no two ways about it. There are so many billions of stars out there in the universe that there must be all sorts of different forms of life. Will they be like you and me, made up of carbon and nitrogen? Maybe not. It’s possible they’re here right now and we simply can’t see them.
202) Message boards : Cafe SETI : 20th Anniversary T-shirts - More in stock (Message 2008836)
Posted 22 Aug 2019 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My 20th anniversary is today :)

Just added another 8 core Android device a few days ago.

I'm around 40" waist, and around 5'8" tall.

Would that be XL or 2XL / XXL in USA sizes please ?
203) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (116) Server Problems? (Message 1999717)
Posted 26 Jun 2019 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Hmm uploads seem to be failing now.

They seem to "stick" at 100%


We seem to have a lot of Short duration tasks at the moment. My 8 core Android TV box has gone through about 3 times the usual amount of tasks in the last hour.

I was monitoring it because it ran short of storage yesterday, so I was just checking that at least 6 cores got some work, but the majority of tasks are finishing in under 3 minutes instead of the usual 30+ hours.
204) Message boards : Cafe SETI : XP Users (Message 1976474)
Posted 22 Jan 2019 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I recently resurrected my Samsung netbook that had not been working working since 2013

My newer Dell netbook stopped working a few weeks ago, that has Windows 7 Starter Edition

Both only have 1gb RAM

Samsung was easier to fix, just needed a new charger.
205) Message boards : Number crunching : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 1976471)
Posted 22 Jan 2019 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
When the right person gets into the lab - anytime between 13:00 and 19:00 UTC.....


Thanks, I noticed that last week it was around 16:20 UTC, but I thought it used to be earlier when I was a regular here.
206) Message boards : Number crunching : Don't know where it should go? Stick it here! (Message 1976467)
Posted 22 Jan 2019 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
What time does the weekly outage start in UTC time ?
207) Message boards : News : NASA Technosignatures Workshop Webcast (Message 1957649)
Posted 28 Sep 2018 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
哪里能看直播?


http://www.ustream.tv/channel/asteroid-initiative-idea-synthesis---3
208) Message boards : News : NASA Technosignatures Workshop Webcast (Message 1957647)
Posted 28 Sep 2018 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I've been watching a lot of this over the last few days.

What time UTC or local is the final session ?

Do you know where the recordings will be posted ?

Thanks, Keith
209) Questions and Answers : Unix/Linux : How do I increase my tasks cache on Android ? (Message 1929198)
Posted 10 Apr 2018 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My Octa (Octo) Core, T95Z usually runs low on tasks during the weekly outage.

How do I change the Preferences in order to keep all the cores warm ?

I currently have 2 tasks in the low 80s %, BOINC version 7.4.53 has downloaded 2 more tasks that are yet to start, but if we get another long Outage like the recent ones, it is likely that a few cores will run out of work towards the end of the outage.

I would also like to know if there is an easy way to adjust the number of cores that are in use, I know how to manually switch from 8, to 4, or fewer if BOINC/SETI starts to cause slowness in non BOINC processes, but I would like a quick, preferably automatic switch, or a Snooze option like the one on Windows.
210) Message boards : Number crunching : Mixed results from new Android hosts. (Message 1921206)
Posted 26 Feb 2018 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Thanks for the replies Keith.

My Octa (Octo) Core TV box https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8463793 is now producing reliable results.

I am a little bit concerned that BOINC doesn't Suspend correctly when I want to use it for normal use !
I have tried various different preferences for the last few days.
I have also allowed all 8 cores to crunch data, and I can still listen to internet radio at the same time, without any glitches.
However, if I try to watch YouTube or Netflix etc, I have to Suspend BOINC Manually first, or everything freezes.
I have tried setting CPU Usage limits as low as 30%, Got slightly better results by setting CPU Time limit to 80 or 90%

If anyone else is thinking of getting a low cost Android TV box from eBay or similar, you could do a lot worse than this box.
Some sellers are still selling Quad Core TV boxes for almost the same price !
211) Message boards : Number crunching : Mixed results from new Android hosts. (Message 1920059)
Posted 20 Feb 2018 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Nothing you can do with the Android apps until BOINC sends you every application and maybe in a year will sort out which one is the fastest and most reliable. Just forget about them and don't worry.


That doesn't seem to be a very efficient way of doing things!
I have been away from SETI for a few years, only recently returned.

I used to run Optimized apps in the past on Windows XP

Why do I get sent Tasks or Apps that instantly result in errors, but I also get Tasks and Apps that produce Valid Results ?
212) Message boards : Number crunching : Mixed results from new Android hosts. (Message 1920047)
Posted 20 Feb 2018 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I have recently attached 3 Android devices, all 3 have produced Some Valid Results, but I have also had several Computation Errors.

I noticed that at least one of the boxes is getting Tasks for several different Applications.

My computers are visible.

The 3 devices are all different:

Acer B3-A20 Android 5.1https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8451284

Samsung Galaxy Tab 2.0 Android 4.2.2https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8462799

T95Z plus TV box, Android 7.1.2 https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=8463793

How can I reduce the number of Errors ?

It appears that many of them are happening because of Applications that are not compatible.

The BOINC version is the same on all 3 hosts, latest available on Google Play, although I have read that older versions may be more reliable ?
213) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who remembers NEZ ? (Message 1918054)
Posted 10 Feb 2018 by Profile Keith T.
Post:

Bitcoin

Politics

Thread Who remembers NEZ ?, belongs in the thread above.


Please excuse me.

I have been away from SETI and BOINC for a few years.

I only recently returned, as I am going to try to add several Android hosts over the next few weeks.

I was prompted to return by the recent Storm Damage at Arecibo, and the 100th birthday of Arthur C Clarke !
214) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Who remembers NEZ ? (Message 1917967)
Posted 10 Feb 2018 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43003740 Unauthorized Bitcoin mining at Russian supercomputer facility !
215) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Which version of BOINC ? (Message 1847349)
Posted 8 Feb 2017 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I have not been active on SETI or BOINC for a few years.

I am thinking of restarting using my Acer B3-A20 Android Tablet.

I have previously used Android hardware without much success.

This tablet is a lot more powerful than the previous device that I tried, I am also aware that I have a choice of BOINC or Native BOINC, but I'm not sure what the pros and cons of each version are.

Help please.
216) Message boards : Number crunching : Welcome to the 16 year club (Message 1717545)
Posted 23 Aug 2015 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
16 years today for me.
217) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Kepler-452b (Message 1704950)
Posted 25 Jul 2015 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
1400 light years, we would need some kind of StarGate to get there in a hurry !

Very true. Just if you happen to get even any hint of such a thing available, please notify me, too. ;-)


There is an image of one in my Avatar, courtesy of Arthur C Clarke and Stanley Kubrick :-)
218) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Kepler-452b (Message 1704321)
Posted 23 Jul 2015 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
1400 light years, we would need some kind of StarGate to get there in a hurry !
219) Message boards : News : Running out of workunits (Message 1603190)
Posted 20 Nov 2014 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Would it be possible or worthwhile to re-send _2 or _3 copies of tasks that have been sent to hosts that appear to be inactive for long periods, e.g. 21 or 30 days ?

Tasks have deadlines and are automatically re-sent when they time out.


Thanks for that reply, I am aware of the deadlines, and currently only have one host attached to S@H. It is probably one of the slowest hosts in regular use, I never have problems meeting S@H deadlines although I do occasionally with LHC.

I meant to suggest EARLY Re-Sends of some or all the tasks that have not been received within a specified time period to be set by the project staff, as I suspect many or most of these would eventually be re-sent when they did hit the deadline. If the original _0 or _1 Task is still received within the original deadline, it would still receive credit, even if it was the 3rd result received.
220) Message boards : News : Running out of workunits (Message 1602602)
Posted 19 Nov 2014 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Would it be possible or worthwhile to re-send _2 or _3 copies of tasks that have been sent to hosts that appear to be inactive for long periods, e.g. 21 or 30 days ?
221) Message boards : Number crunching : Agravating Non S@H Problem!!! (Message 1265378)
Posted 28 Jul 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Try using Chrome or Opera. I use Firefox about as often as Internet Explorer, which is hardly ever !
222) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC 7.0.28 is now the RECOMMENDED version for Windows, Mac and Linux. (Message 1254570)
Posted 2 Jul 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I found the release date as a Recommended version http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/VersionHistory shows this as 29 June '12. The download page shows the release date as 21 May, which I think was the Beta release.

I thought new recommended versions usually got announced officially rather than in forum posts, but I might be wrong about that.

[NOTE TO MODS]
Please could this thread be made Sticky for a few days, as many 7.0.25 users have complained of problems.
[/NOTE TO MODS]
223) Message boards : Number crunching : Kittyman......rig down..... (Message 1254509)
Posted 2 Jul 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Glad to see you got it working Mark.

For anyone else or Mark who has similar problems of only being able to boot to a command prompt, and only being familiar with GUI than ZTreeWin could be the answer.

http://www.ztree.com/html/download.htm is based on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XTreeGold which was around for many years in the DOS era.



ZtreeWin is usable as a 31 day trial version, then $29.95 to use it beyond the trial period.

[Edited IMG to fit in 1024 pixel screen width.]
224) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC 7.0.28 is now the RECOMMENDED version for Windows, Mac and Linux. (Message 1254488)
Posted 2 Jul 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
This should be news for those who don't like to run Beta versions of BOINC.

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

Not sure when it happened, but I noticed on another project forum (Rosetta) that 7.0.28 is now Recommended. It seems to have slipped out "under the radar" over the last few days, as there does not seem to have been an announcement on BOINC or project News but 7.0.28 is now the recommended version for:

Windows x86
Windows 64 bit
Linux x86
Linux 64 bit
Mac OS X (Intel)

I have been running 7.0.28 since 25 May (released 15 May as Beta), as I was having work fetch problems with 7.0.25

Keith.
225) Message boards : Technical News : Swimming in Data (Jun 20 2012) (Message 1251815)
Posted 26 Jun 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Still 37 Astropulse V5 results stuck in the pipe. The last one was reported around 6th June. I think these must need some manual intervention by project staff to validate and purge. NC thread http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=67920 refers to this.

Keith.
226) Message boards : Number crunching : 62 AP_V5 Left In The Field (Message 1242171)
Posted 6 Jun 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Results out in the field : 0
Results received in last hour : 0
Result turnaround time (last hour average) : hours
Results returned and awaiting validation : 2
Results waiting for db purging : 46

THE LAST ONE http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=931699188 is still out there after the latest outage.
Report deadline 9 Jun 2012 | 8:49:09 UTC

Looks like another forever stuck workunit.
Even if it gets returned (unlikely?), the WU will just stay in validation.

More important question is... when will the admins change astropulse status display in status page to APv6. Is it really that difficult?

Nah - this is what will happen:

This guy will miss his deadline. Next Saturday, one (possibly even two) new tasks will be created, and a few hours later get sent out to users.

Then, a couple of days later, this one will be reported in late, and we'll have another one to count back in.....


Name ap_22jn11ad_B5_P1_00099_20120214_29806.wu_7
Workunit 931699188
Created 15 May 2012 | 8:49:05 UTC
Sent 15 May 2012 | 8:49:09 UTC
Received 6 Jun 2012 | 12:17:25 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Success
Client state Done
Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 6259723
Report deadline 9 Jun 2012 | 8:49:09 UTC
Run time 456,056.73
CPU time 417,734.70
Validate state Task was reported too late to validate
Credit 0.00
Application version Astropulse v505 v5.05
227) Message boards : Number crunching : 62 AP_V5 Left In The Field (Message 1239418)
Posted 1 Jun 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
THE LAST ONE http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=931699188 is still out there after the latest outage.
Report deadline 9 Jun 2012 | 8:49:09 UTC
228) Message boards : Number crunching : One Billionth (1e+9) WU is Approaching.. (Message 1239412)
Posted 1 Jun 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1000000000 "Completed and validated"
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=999999999 3 Compute errors so far (CUDA -12 error), 1 "Completed, waiting for validation", 1 In progress (SETI@home Enhanced, Anonymous platform (NVIDIA GPU)"
229) Message boards : Number crunching : One Billionth (1e+9) WU is Approaching.. (Message 1238802)
Posted 29 May 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
The Billionth WU has had more success so far than the 999,999,999th http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=999999999 which has 3 CUDA -12 Errors so far !
230) Message boards : Number crunching : One Billionth (1e+9) WU is Approaching.. (Message 1238512)
Posted 28 May 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I wonder which will finish first, WU 1000000000 or the final Astropulse v505 ?

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=1000000000
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=931699188
231) Message boards : Number crunching : 62 AP_V5 Left In The Field (Message 1236201)
Posted 25 May 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Update:
Results out in the field : 1
Results received in last hour : 1
Result turnaround time (last hour average) : 133.28 hours
Results returned and awaiting validation : 2
Results waiting for db purging : 45
232) Message boards : Number crunching : 62 AP_V5 Left In The Field (Message 1236157)
Posted 24 May 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Now
Results out in the field : 2
Results received in last hour : 1
Result turnaround time (last hour average) : 229.91 hours
Results returned and awaiting validation : 1
Results waiting for db purging : 45
233) Message boards : Number crunching : 62 AP_V5 Left In The Field (Message 1235528)
Posted 23 May 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Still 4 Results out in the field, 1 Results returned and awaiting validation.

This thread reminds me of an old Orbit@home thread from 2009 / 2010 http://orbit.psi.edu/oah/forum_thread.php?id=314&
234) Message boards : Number crunching : Smartphone crunching (Message 1233378)
Posted 19 May 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
If a phone is capable of running "Angry Birds" or similar apps without lagging then it should be capable of some productive crunching for some BOINC projects. It will probably not be worth the effort, but what happened to the spirit of adventure, of trying something new?

I own a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Wildfire, which is a low budget Android phone with only 384MB RAM, 512 MB onboard storage, 528 MHz CPU. The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Desire it's big brother from 2010 is much more capable, with 576 MB RAM, 512 MB storage, 1 GHz CPU, and a separate GPU. (Specs taken from Wikipedia).

My phone really lags when running more than a few apps at the same time (gave up on Angry Birds, too laggy), but I'm still running SETI on an AMD Athlon XP 2200+, and a Samsung Netbook. Both of these devices are low spec hardware in modern terms, but I still chose to run SETI and about 4 other BOINC projects regularly.

I people want to try something new, on low spec devices, I don't think they should be denied or derided for trying.
235) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (74) Server problems? (Message 1233100)
Posted 18 May 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I suspect some of the drive volumes were unreachable by the download servers shortly before everything shut down. Are all the servers on the same UPS ?

I'm pretty sure they've got several UPSs.
Just had a look at my tasks, and i've got quite a few download errors as well.
If you look at the WUs, that occured for everyone else trying to download those WUs, although there several which were just downloaded today with no problems.
So your theory sounds good.
The Scheduler & download servers were still up, but the work file storage was down (or at least in accessable) at the time.




Might be an idea for someone that can to notifiy the staff- many of those WUs have been cancelled (Too many errors (may have bug) Work Unit cancelled) when in actual fact they are OK.


I hope they are on the case. Someone seems to have cancelled some WU's before they reached the Max # of errors. e.g this one http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=992536710 which still has 2 tasks in progress, but has been cancelled.

I thought there were more than one UPS for all those boxes, I suspect the drive arrays may have gone down before the servers due to the higher power requirement of all those spinning motors.
236) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (74) Server problems? (Message 1233071)
Posted 18 May 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
This WU looks like it'll be fun. _0 and _1 both failed on download. _2 managed to get it, supposedly. _3 and _4 (me) failed on download. _5 is unsent at the moment.

Check this one - Too many errors (may have bug).

I'm getting a huge amount of download errors now. What's going on?

Yeah, me too, lots of these:

1735 SETI@home 2012-05-18 21:17:31 [error] File 23fe11ab.28540.3508.8.10.14 has wrong size: expected 375361, got 0
1736 SETI@home 2012-05-18 21:17:31 [error] Checksum or signature error for 23fe11ab.28540.3508.8.10.14

Could that be due to the RAID resynchs Matt mentioned earlier?
Or maybe just saturation on the download pipe?

See Khangollo's message 1232644, posted before the power failure, showing that kind of error. Whatever the problem is, it's not an aftereffect of the power failure.
                                                                  Joe


I suspect some of the drive volumes were unreachable by the download servers shortly before everything shut down. Are all the servers on the same UPS ?
237) Message boards : Number crunching : lunatics (Message 1232852)
Posted 18 May 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I tried to post to the Lunatics forums during the recent outage, and found that "That username does not exist."

My email address is also listed as not known.

Tried to re-register "Sorry, registration is currently disabled."

How do I get back onto the forums ?
238) Message boards : News : Major Power Outage at SSL (Message 1232817)
Posted 18 May 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Well done to all.

Uploads, reporting and Downloads are all working here. Even SETI Beta is working !

I noticed that SSL is over 50 years old now, are the cables a similar age ?
239) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Oakland shootings, at least 5 dead (Message 1213340)
Posted 2 Apr 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Sad news, and very close to home for some of the SETI staff.

http://news.google.co.uk/news/more?pz=1&cf=all&ned=uk&ncl=dJUHNSonfaFMJBMX5Em-e0BH2qLgM&topic=h

Hope this is an appropriate forum for this.
240) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics Windows Installer v0.40 release notes (Message 1210379)
Posted 26 Mar 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Could this be made a Sticky Thread please ?
241) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (72) Server problems? (Message 1210378)
Posted 26 Mar 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
26/03/2012 12:05:47 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
26/03/2012 12:05:47 SETI@home Requesting new tasks
26/03/2012 12:05:55 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
26/03/2012 12:05:55 SETI@home Message from server: Project has no tasks available
26/03/2012 12:11:01 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
26/03/2012 12:11:01 SETI@home Requesting new tasks
26/03/2012 12:11:04 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
26/03/2012 12:11:04 SETI@home Message from server: Project has no tasks available


SETI@home server status information is also available in XML.

[As of 26 Mar 2012 | 11:00:04 UTC]

Results ready to send 241,023

My local TZ is UTC+1, BST (UK daylight savig time)


I continued to get failed requests until one of my 2 running tasks was about 3 minutes to go.
I tried [ipconfig/flushdns] and got 3 new tasks at the next request.
242) Message boards : Number crunching : Welcome back, old ASUS Z9100L. (Message 1210264)
Posted 26 Mar 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Did you try the old put the HDD (sealed in a plastic bag) in a freezer overnight, trick ?

Just Google "hdd freezer trick" for more information.
243) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (72) Server problems? (Message 1210258)
Posted 26 Mar 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
26/03/2012 12:05:47 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
26/03/2012 12:05:47 SETI@home Requesting new tasks
26/03/2012 12:05:55 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
26/03/2012 12:05:55 SETI@home Message from server: Project has no tasks available
26/03/2012 12:11:01 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
26/03/2012 12:11:01 SETI@home Requesting new tasks
26/03/2012 12:11:04 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
26/03/2012 12:11:04 SETI@home Message from server: Project has no tasks available


SETI@home server status information is also available in XML.

[As of 26 Mar 2012 | 11:00:04 UTC]

Results ready to send 241,023

My local TZ is UTC+1, BST (UK daylight savig time)
244) Message boards : Number crunching : Unusually high credit (Message 1205471)
Posted 13 Mar 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=944774279 had a credit of 494.20
I'm not complaining, just surprised. That's quite a lot higher than most of my recent VLAR tasks.

Wingman is running stock app

Name 08ja12ag.4632.32251.16.10.37.vlar_0
Workunit 944774279
Created 7 Mar 2012 | 23:18:21 UTC
Sent 8 Mar 2012 | 2:29:31 UTC
Received 10 Mar 2012 | 19:19:04 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Success
Client state Done
Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 4849653
Report deadline 23 Apr 2012 | 14:36:11 UTC
Run time 137,033.94
CPU time 93,910.62
Validate state Valid
Credit 494.20
Application version SETI@home Enhanced v6.03

Stderr output
<core_client_version>6.10.18</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
setiathome_enhanced 6.02 DevC++/MinGW
libboinc: 6.3.6

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is : 0.011797
Optimal function choices:
-----------------------------------------------------
name
-----------------------------------------------------
v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
v_vGetPowerSpectrum 0.00056 0.00000
sse3_ChirpData_ak 0.07012 0.00000
v_pfTranspose4 0.04318 0.00000
BH SSE folding 0.01353 0.00000
Restarted at 12.81 percent.
Restarted at 20.50 percent.
Restarted at 40.99 percent.
Restarted at 78.54 percent.

Flopcounter: 38784617603066.109000

Spike count: 2
Pulse count: 12
Triplet count: 1
Gaussian count: 0
called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt>
]]>

Mine is running Lunatics SSSE3x

08ja12ag.4632.32251.16.10.37.vlar_1
Workunit 944774279
Created 7 Mar 2012 | 23:18:21 UTC
Sent 8 Mar 2012 | 2:29:32 UTC
Received 13 Mar 2012 | 2:50:00 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Success
Client state Done
Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 4725429
Report deadline 23 Apr 2012 | 14:36:12 UTC
Run time 68,254.72
CPU time 56,860.45
Validate state Valid
Credit 494.20
Application version SETI@home Enhanced
Anonymous platform (CPU)

Stderr output
<core_client_version>6.10.58</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 0.000000
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: computation_deadline
Skipping: 1335101772.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 0.000000
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: computation_deadline
Skipping: 1335101772.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
Windows optimized S@H Enhanced application by Alex Kan
Version info: SSSE3x (Intel, Core 2-optimized v8-nographics) V5.13 by Alex Kan
SSSE3x Win32 Build 41 , Ported by : Jason G, Raistmer, JDWhale

CPUID: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz
Speed: 1 x 1596 MHz
Cache: L1=64K L2=512K
Features: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3

Work Unit Info:
...............
Credit multiplier is : 2.85
WU true angle range is : 0.011797
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 18631.953125
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: computation_deadline
Skipping: 1335101772.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 18631.953125
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: computation_deadline
Skipping: 1335101772.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
Restarted at 15.58 percent.
No heartbeat from core client for 30 sec - exiting
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 18631.953125
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: computation_deadline
Skipping: 1335101772.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 18631.953125
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: computation_deadline
Skipping: 1335101772.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
Restarted at 15.58 percent.
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 41042.578125
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: computation_deadline
Skipping: 1335101772.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 41042.578125
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: computation_deadline
Skipping: 1335101772.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
Restarted at 47.27 percent.
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 48356.765625
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: computation_deadline
Skipping: 1335101772.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 48356.765625
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: computation_deadline
Skipping: 1335101772.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
Restarted at 60.61 percent.
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 49430.000000
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: computation_deadline
Skipping: 1335101772.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 49430.000000
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: computation_deadline
Skipping: 1335101772.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
Restarted at 62.45 percent.
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 50423.703125
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: computation_deadline
Skipping: 1335101772.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 50423.703125
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
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Skipping: 1335101772.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
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Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 52816.937500
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: computation_deadline
Skipping: 1335101772.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 52816.937500
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: computation_deadline
Skipping: 1335101772.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
Restarted at 68.72 percent.
No heartbeat from core client for 30 sec - exiting
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 52816.937500
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: computation_deadline
Skipping: 1335101772.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 52816.937500
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
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Skipping: 1335101772.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
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Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 56340.779963
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: computation_deadline
Skipping: 1335101772.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 56340.779963
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: computation_deadline
Skipping: 1335101772.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
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Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 56933.389338
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: computation_deadline
Skipping: 1335101772.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 56933.389338
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
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Skipping: 1335101772.000000
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Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 58159.951838
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: computation_deadline
Skipping: 1335101772.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 58159.951838
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
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Skipping: 1335101772.000000
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Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: starting_elapsed_time
Skipping: 67443.483088
Skipping: /starting_elapsed_time
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Skipping: 1335101772.000000
Skipping: /computation_deadline
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Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
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Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: hostid
Skipping: 4725429
Skipping: /hostid
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Flopcounter: 38783697485797.219000

Spike count: 0
Pulse count: 0
Triplet count: 0
Gaussian count: 0
called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt>
]]>

What caused the high credit ?
245) Message boards : Number crunching : Monday Morning Outage (Message 1202384)
Posted 4 Mar 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Thanks Richard, I looked on BOINC front page and News forum, but hadn't thought to look at the Projects forum.
246) Message boards : Number crunching : Monday Morning Outage (Message 1202371)
Posted 4 Mar 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Does anyone know if the BOINC servers will also be down ?

I couldn't see anything on their website, but I think they are also located in the same building.

BTW the outage will be from 16:00 UTC to 18:00 UTC for those who are not aware of the difference between Pacific Time and their local TimeZone.
247) Message boards : Number crunching : invisibilty boince (Message 1198966)
Posted 23 Feb 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Hopefully someone can check the translation is correct.

Looks close enough for me, aber Ich bin in der Deutchschweiz nur dreizehn Jahren gewohnen.


Danke, Ich habe gelernt Deutsch im abendschule von '85 bis '88 wenn ich war in Deutschland mit die RAF.
248) Message boards : Number crunching : invisibilty boince (Message 1198943)
Posted 23 Feb 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
The computer stay at work. I'm the "admin". I "have" 4 computers on the run for BOINCE. The other user is a normal user with a little bit mor understanding as the norb's.


OK, you are the ADMIN. If you are the owner as well, then you can decide what software should be run on YOUR computers.

If you are not the owner, then please consider this:

Run SETI@home only on authorized computers

Run SETI@home only on computers that you own, or for which you have obtained the owner's permission. Some companies and schools have policies that prohibit using their computers for projects such as SETI@home.


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/info.php

[edit] Added German Translation from Google

Führen Sie SETI @ home nur auf autorisierten Computern

Führen Sie SETI @ home nur auf Computern, die Sie besitzen, oder für die Sie die Erlaubnis des Inhabers erhalten. Einige Unternehmen und Schulen haben Richtlinien, die mit ihren Computern für Projekte wie SETI @ home zu verbieten.


I can't remember if the home page of this site is still shown in native language to non-English users.

Hopefully someone can check the translation is correct.

[/edit]
249) Message boards : Number crunching : Any way to limit VLAR tasks on a slow cpu ? (Message 1194422)
Posted 12 Feb 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
you could always just adjust your computing preferences on your account page


I thought the website preferences http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=global give the same options as BOINC Manager preferences, I notice there are separate sections for [Home], [School] and [Work].

I don't think it answers my problem, what I want to do is ensure that CPU is only allowed to crunch 1 VLAR task at a time as these seem to use more system resources than other tasks.

It is not currently a problem for normal web browsing or audio apps, but when I view video it lags a bit until BOINC decides to suspend processing.

[edit]

Just noticed that I may have looked at the wrong set of preferences online, http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project is the one for SETI. However after reading a few other threads here, I decided to allow work for SETI Beta again, and I now have a non VLAR task from that project.

[/edit]
250) Message boards : Number crunching : Any way to limit VLAR tasks on a slow cpu ? (Message 1194315)
Posted 12 Feb 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I know about how to limit BOINC settings in the preferences menu, but I would like to restrict my Atom netbook from processing more than one VLAR at a time, as it tends to slow it down too much.

I currently have to suspend one task when I need more CPU available and have 2 VLAR tasks active.

Keith
251) Message boards : Number crunching : Selling Acer Aspire 6920G (Message 1194311)
Posted 12 Feb 2012 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Try a search on Google Shopping, Amazon, eBay and a few other shopping sites to get a better idea.



Keith.
252) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA -12 errors. (Message 1162686)
Posted 15 Oct 2011 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Got another WU with similar results, http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=834405682.

So far 3 CUDA hosts have had -12 errors. 5th cruncher is CPU so there may be a valid result.
253) Message boards : Number crunching : CUDA -12 errors. (Message 1111706)
Posted 31 May 2011 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
WU http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=746541482. It will probably be cleared from the database soon, so posted here.

Task
click for details	Computer	Sent	Time reported
or deadline 
explain 	Status	Run time
(sec)	CPU time
(sec)	Credit	Application
1916575068	5872442	19 May 2011 | 17:46:49 UTC	30 May 2011 | 5:38:58 UTC	Error while computing	16.13	14.85	---	SETI@home Enhanced v6.10 (cuda_fermi)
1916575069	5900891	19 May 2011 | 17:46:49 UTC	20 May 2011 | 2:20:44 UTC	Error while computing	17.28	15.60	---	SETI@home Enhanced v6.10 (cuda_fermi)
1917282289	5444834	20 May 2011 | 6:30:01 UTC	20 May 2011 | 8:56:16 UTC	Error while computing	0.00	0.00	---	SETI@home Enhanced v6.09 (cuda23)
1917644925	5107544	20 May 2011 | 12:50:28 UTC	20 May 2011 | 22:25:34 UTC	Error while computing	19.44	19.44	---	SETI@home Enhanced v6.09 (cuda23)
1918378188	4712864	21 May 2011 | 4:00:36 UTC	27 May 2011 | 14:12:06 UTC	Error while computing	19.21	18.89	---	SETI@home Enhanced v6.08 (cuda)
1924329650	4725429	27 May 2011 | 14:12:13 UTC	29 May 2011 | 0:46:50 UTC	Completed and validated	19,562.31	16,537.44	23.32	SETI@home Enhanced
Anonymous platform (CPU)
1927861819	4632176	30 May 2011 | 8:13:29 UTC	30 May 2011 | 12:16:06 UTC	Completed and validated	4,302.44	4,247.30	23.32	SETI@home Enhanced v6.03


5 different CUDA hosts all choked on it. 4 with error code 12, 1 with error 177.

Stderr output
<core_client_version>6.12.26</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
- exit code -12 (0xfffffff4)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
setiathome_CUDA: Found 1 CUDA device(s):
Device 1 : GeForce 9500 GT
totalGlobalMem = 489291776
sharedMemPerBlock = 16384
regsPerBlock = 8192
warpSize = 32
memPitch = 2147483647
maxThreadsPerBlock = 512
clockRate = 1750000
totalConstMem = 65536
major = 1
minor = 1
textureAlignment = 256
deviceOverlap = 1
multiProcessorCount = 4
setiathome_CUDA: CUDA Device 1 specified, checking...
Device 1: GeForce 9500 GT is okay
SETI@home using CUDA accelerated device GeForce 9500 GT
setiathome_enhanced 6.03 Visual Studio/Microsoft C++
libboinc: 6.3.22

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is : 10.934943
Optimal function choices:
-----------------------------------------------------
name
-----------------------------------------------------
v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
v_GetPowerSpectrum 0.00022 0.00000
v_ChirpData 0.01450 0.00000
v_Transpose4 0.00370 0.00000
FPU opt folding 0.00124 0.00000
SETI@home error -12 Unknown error
cudaAcc_find_triplets erroneously found a triplet twice in find_triplets_kernel
File: c:/sw/gpgpu/seti/seti_boinc/client/cuda/cudaAcc_pulsefind.cu
Line: 236


</stderr_txt>
]]>

Stderr output
<core_client_version>6.10.58</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
- exit code -12 (0xfffffff4)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
setiathome_CUDA: Found 1 CUDA device(s):
Device 1 : GeForce 9500 GS
totalGlobalMem = 521732096
sharedMemPerBlock = 16384
regsPerBlock = 8192
warpSize = 32
memPitch = 2147483647
maxThreadsPerBlock = 512
clockRate = 1400000
totalConstMem = 65536
major = 1
minor = 1
textureAlignment = 256
deviceOverlap = 1
multiProcessorCount = 4
setiathome_CUDA: CUDA Device 1 specified, checking...
Device 1: GeForce 9500 GS is okay
SETI@home using CUDA accelerated device GeForce 9500 GS
setiathome_enhanced 6.09 Visual Studio/Microsoft C++
libboinc: 6.3.22

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is : 10.934943
Optimal function choices:
-----------------------------------------------------
name
-----------------------------------------------------
v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
v_GetPowerSpectrum 0.00023 0.00000
v_ChirpData 0.02512 0.00000
v_Transpose4 0.01291 0.00000
FPU opt folding 0.00187 0.00000
SETI@home error -12 Unknown error
cudaAcc_find_triplets erroneously found a triplet twice in find_triplets_kernel
File: c:/sw/gpgpu/seti/seti_boinc/client/cuda/cudaAcc_pulsefind.cu
Line: 236


</stderr_txt>
]]>

Stderr output
<core_client_version>6.10.60</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
- exit code -12 (0xfffffff4)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
setiathome_CUDA: Found 1 CUDA device(s):
Device 1 : GeForce GTX 460 SE
totalGlobalMem = 1008271360
sharedMemPerBlock = 49152
regsPerBlock = 32768
warpSize = 32
memPitch = 2147483647
maxThreadsPerBlock = 1024
clockRate = 1400000
totalConstMem = 65536
major = 2
minor = 1
textureAlignment = 512
deviceOverlap = 1
multiProcessorCount = 6
setiathome_CUDA: CUDA Device 1 specified, checking...
Device 1: GeForce GTX 460 SE is okay
SETI@home using CUDA accelerated device GeForce GTX 460 SE
setiathome_enhanced 6.09 Visual Studio/Microsoft C++
libboinc: 6.3.22

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is : 10.934943
Optimal function choices:
-----------------------------------------------------
name
-----------------------------------------------------
v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
v_GetPowerSpectrum 0.00039 0.00000
v_ChirpData 0.01790 0.00000
v_Transpose4 0.01001 0.00000
FPU opt folding 0.00197 0.00000
SETI@home error -12 Unknown error
cudaAcc_find_triplets erroneously found a triplet twice in find_triplets_kernel
File: d:/Projects/SETI/seti_boinc/client/cuda/cudaAcc_pulsefind.cu
Line: 236


</stderr_txt>
]]>

Stderr output
<core_client_version>6.10.60</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
- exit code -12 (0xfffffff4)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
setiathome_CUDA: Found 1 CUDA device(s):
Device 1 : GeForce GTX 580
totalGlobalMem = 1576468480
sharedMemPerBlock = 49152
regsPerBlock = 32768
warpSize = 32
memPitch = 2147483647
maxThreadsPerBlock = 1024
clockRate = 1544000
totalConstMem = 65536
major = 2
minor = 0
textureAlignment = 512
deviceOverlap = 1
multiProcessorCount = 16
setiathome_CUDA: CUDA Device 1 specified, checking...
Device 1: GeForce GTX 580 is okay
SETI@home using CUDA accelerated device GeForce GTX 580
setiathome_enhanced 6.09 Visual Studio/Microsoft C++
libboinc: 6.3.22

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is : 10.934943
Optimal function choices:
-----------------------------------------------------
name
-----------------------------------------------------
v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
v_GetPowerSpectrum 0.00017 0.00000
v_ChirpData 0.01187 0.00000
v_Transpose4 0.00250 0.00000
FPU opt folding 0.00181 0.00000
SETI@home error -12 Unknown error
cudaAcc_find_triplets erroneously found a triplet twice in find_triplets_kernel
File: d:/Projects/SETI/seti_boinc/client/cuda/cudaAcc_pulsefind.cu
Line: 236


</stderr_txt>
]]>

Stderr output
<core_client_version>6.10.56</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Maximum elapsed time exceeded
</message>
]]>
254) Message boards : Number crunching : Name the newest member to the server family!!! (Message 1045218)
Posted 31 Oct 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
How about Columbia or Challenger? I know most of the other servers have been named after Sci-Fi characters, but the Shuttle program is drawing to a close, and those seem like good names to use. Future servers could also be named after other famous real life space vehicles.

If you don't like those and want to stay on the Sci-Fi theme, then Enterprise would also be a good name.
255) Message boards : Technical News : recent woes (Message 1039538)
Posted 8 Oct 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I'm sure you already know this, and the equipment you're using is very likely much better than what I've used, but overheating problems followed by "hangs" might be caused by bad motherboard capacitors. Check the tops of the caps to see if they're expanded or open and leaking--if they are the motherboard is a goner. Sorry if this is obvious to you folks, but figured I would throw this in since I've run across it in the past. Good luck.


Hi Richard, welcome to the forums.

I expressed a similar theory in 2 posts in the thread http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=56160&nowrap=true#959975 in November last year, and again on 1 January this year.

I have personally seen this problem in recent years, on a friend's Athlon XP system. It happened first when plugging or unplugging USB devices caused a system hang, with Windows BSOD. A few weeks later the Blue Screens got more frequent, and an examination of the motherboard revealed about 50% of the capacitors had bulging or brown stained tops.

While I am sure that server grade hardware should be built to higher quality standards, and better tolerances than ordinary consumer equipment, I think some of the kit that SETI@home uses is pre-production or prototype.

Add to that the fact that the ageing of the capacitors may have been accelerated by recent overheating.

I hope Matt, Jeff and Eric may find this post helpful, I would certainly put flaky capacitors near the top of my suspect list.
I have just done a Google search on "bulging capacitors" that produced lots of results, including many images.

Keith.
256) Message boards : Number crunching : Orbit at Home is now giving out WUs! (Message 1036383)
Posted 25 Sep 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Orbit was out of new work for a few days, but they have started sending out another batch a few hours ago.

http://www.bluenorthernsoftware.com/scarecrow/oahstats/graphs.php
257) Message boards : Number crunching : Orbit at Home is now giving out WUs! (Message 1033523)
Posted 17 Sep 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Orbit and LHC posting work in the same month? Will wonders never cease?


According to the recent News on their front page from Pasquale Tricarico "Orbit@Home in Production Mode with Real Data".

At the time of this post, they have:

Results ready to send 277,817
Results in progress 112,770

Work is available for Windows (98 or later), Linux and Mac OS 10.4 or later.
With the most recent batch, they have reduced initial replication to 2, quorum 2.
The deadlines have also been reduced to 3 days.
258) Message boards : Number crunching : Welcome to the 11 year club (Message 1027683)
Posted 23 Aug 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
11 Years today for me. Started out with a 486DX2-66 at home, and a Pentium 200MHz at work!
259) Message boards : Number crunching : Helluva spike........ (Message 1023073)
Posted 6 Aug 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Hmmmmmmmm....

Wonder what the outbound spike in the Cricky graphs was about this time of night....


They may be moving a large amount of data to or from "off site storage".
260) Message boards : Number crunching : Claimed Credit Gone (Message 1006740)
Posted 21 Jun 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
You can still see claimed credit for your own pending tasks at http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/pending.php.
261) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Forum counter is about to roll over ! (Message 999914)
Posted 2 Jun 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Just noticed that we are about to see message board id 1000000.

[edit] Well in just under 750 messages ! [/edit]


Less than 100 now.

[edit]
I thought the millionth message would be posted over the w/e. I wonder if the counter getting close to 1000000 had anything to do with the server problems over the last few days.
262) Message boards : Number crunching : Can't Download (Message 999904)
Posted 2 Jun 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Just noticed that I got 2 ghost tasks out of the 3 that are shown "In progress" on my account.

I know that "ghosts" will eventually time out (on 19 July) but it is a nuisance to me and possibly to wingman to have to wait 7 weeks for these.
263) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Forum counter is about to roll over ! (Message 999253)
Posted 28 May 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Just noticed that we are about to see message board id 1000000.

[edit] Well in just under 750 messages ! [/edit]
264) Message boards : Number crunching : Best & Worst Backup Projects ? (Message 974794)
Posted 28 Feb 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
LHC@home has started giving some WUs, but only to Windows machines so far. Since I have Linux I got no one. But they seem to be pretty fast. The program is SixTrack, in a new version.
Tullio


Oh, I missed those! Rumors of more in the next few weeks according to http://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_index.php

For those interested in SIMAP, see http://boinc.bio.wzw.tum.de/boincsimap/.
265) Message boards : Number crunching : validate errors! (Message 973574)
Posted 23 Feb 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I may be fairly lucky that I have only had 1 of these during the recent problems. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=572983972

I hope the staff may be able to run a re-validation script, as has been done in the past, but if it causes too much load on the servers, then I will understand.

Well done to Eric, Matt, and the rest of the crew for their efforts over the last few days. When you get time it would be nice to hear what caused the problems.
266) Message boards : Number crunching : Best & Worst Backup Projects ? (Message 973533)
Posted 23 Feb 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
SIMAP and RALPH are both periodic projects, so I know these will often have no work.

SIMAP will start the new work batches at every 1st in the month. The lenght of the batch depends, so some days till some weeks or month work are available.


Thanks, I did know that about SIMAP. They will often start a new batch a day or two before the 1st of the month, see http://boinc.bio.wzw.tum.de/boincsimap/old_news.php.

My second Malaria task got aborted by BOINC after more than 90% complete and >23.5 hours CPU time with Exit Status -177. Replacement wingman has not returned their task yet either, http://www.malariacontrol.net/workunit.php?wuid=21538831 :-(

Fairly happy with AQUA so far, DCF is currently 5.06. This is the first project I have run that uses both CPUs at once, I know hyper-threading is only a virtual CPU, but it seems to do more work than with hyper-threading off.
267) Message boards : Number crunching : Help wanted (Message 973517)
Posted 23 Feb 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
According to http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration the file needs to be in your BOINC data directory. That's the same location where the slot folders or directories are. I have not used Win 7 yet, but you should be able to locate the directory quite easily. It may not be the same for all installations, it can vary according to what options you chose during install.
268) Message boards : Number crunching : Kitties for sale..... (Message 972794)
Posted 21 Feb 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Well done Mark and Josef for your contributions to SETI. I made a small donation to celebrate 100,000 Credits and Mark's Birthday a few weeks ago.

I am a little bit obsessive too, I think many contributers here are :-)

Does anyone else remember this old thread Seti farms: Hobby or obsession?

[edit]
I just took a look through that thread (one of my few subscribed threads), and I thought this was appropriate The 12 steps and key symptoms of a BOINCaholic
[/edit]

Keith.
269) Message boards : Number crunching : Best & Worst Backup Projects ? (Message 972293)
Posted 20 Feb 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I tend to keep a couple of short CPDN tasks for Rainy days, but they have a quite large downloads and uploads, but have very long deadlines so i can just suspend it until needed.
Einstein's a favourite too, tasks are a bit longer than Seti_enhanced Wu's, but are again reasonable large downloads, uploads smallish through,
Collatz is very good for GPU's, especially ATI GPU's, CPU run times 12 to 24 hours depending on CPU and OS (32 or 64bit),
downloads and uploads are very small, but no Graphics.

Claggy


Thanks, I have run CPDN and Einstein on my Athlon XP in the past, don't have those projects on this PC.

I will report in the next few days about how I find AQUA.
270) Message boards : Number crunching : Best & Worst Backup Projects ? (Message 972290)
Posted 20 Feb 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Thanks Richard, I took a look at AQUA, I currently have a Malaria task that is struggling to meet it's deadline. I also managed to report my recent SETI work and got 9 tasks last night, one of which has been trying to upload for the last 2 hours.

...

I have now joined AQUA since I typed that first paragraph. Got 1 WU, and temporarily set NNT. Rogue Malaria task is currently 58% crunched after 47 hours, with a deadline of 17:51 UTC tomorrow!
271) Message boards : Number crunching : Best & Worst Backup Projects ? (Message 972248)
Posted 20 Feb 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
OK, I know some of you are SETI only, this is not meant to be another thread about the current network and server (and A/C) problems.

Like most of you I ran out of SETI tasks a few days ago. I do have some other projects that I run at various Resource Shares.

SIMAP and RALPH are both periodic projects, so I know these will often have no work. I have not seen LHC work for nearly 11 months, according to the forums there, there MAY be some work there in the coming months, but it is still unlikely. Orbit is another project that I have crunched for in the past, which is currently mostly dormant.

Malaria WUs really p*** me off because the run times are so random. Milkyway seems to only be interested in high powered crunchers. I occasionally run Rosetta, but I have usually been awarded about 20% of my claimed credits. Leiden is about the only project that I seem to get good results with.

I have excluded SETI Beta because it is usually down when SETI is. I am looking for a new project to crunch with reasonably short run times, moderate file sizes to upload and download, and preferably a ScreenSaver or Graphic app that works with current versions of BOINC.

Any suggestions please?
272) Message boards : Number crunching : **CLOSED SETI/BOINC Milestones [ v2.0 ] - XIX CLOSED** (Message 971878)
Posted 19 Feb 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My last pending from 2009 finally cleared :-)

Pity it didn't generate enough credit to prop up my RAC, that has plummeted after over 1 month above 200. Oh Well.
273) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel Atom processor (Message 970686)
Posted 15 Feb 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I ran boinc (s@h) for a while on my eee-pc until one day I was interrupted, walked away from it and left it running on a hot day. It's never been the same since. It's cooked the hard disk to an unworkable level of reliability and I'm too broke to replace it with the nice ssd that I'd like.
I think that most of the netbooks assume the low power consumption means low heat - which when the environment reaches 40 degrees is not always the case.
Once I had compared the crunch power of my netbook to the crunch power of my desktop i7 with dual gpu's I realised I was really wasting my time. As I really only use the netbook away from my desk, ie on batteries, and the usually wonderful battery life depends on running as economically as possible, boinc becomes less appealing when completing about one work unit a week.
So Atom pc's come in distinctly different flavours. A netbook on batteries seems unwise running boinc, while a miniature pc on mains power in an airconditioned office is clearly a different matter.
The newer pc's seem to be improving dramatically when measured in flops/watt, I did have a couple of old pc's I kept going for sentimental reasons, but soon realised that the money I was spending on power keeping them running was more efficiently spent on shiny new hardware. oops, sorry to rant off track a little there!


Sorry to hear of your problems with your Asus Eee PC. Running BOINC on my Samsung NC10 has not been completely without incident, 2 of the 5 rubber feet have fallen off the bottom of the case, the Microsoft license sticker has become faded and unreadable, and the serial number sticker has also fallen off. More seriously, the CPU fan has recently become a bit noisy, probably due to running constantly at full speed.

I totally agree about running BOINC reducing your battery life as well, my netbook is regularly plugged into either a 240V (UK) supply or a car 12V supply. It should have 6 or 7 hours battery life on a full charge, but I see more like 4 hours if I run BOINC on batteries.

Have you tried to get your HDD replaced under warranty? It seems to me that it may be a design issue if it did overheat.

Keith
274) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel Core i7 created July 2004 ?! (Message 970523)
Posted 14 Feb 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Thanks for the rapid replies. I did suspect it involved cloning an older system. I had also suspected "Who?" as well.

This raises some other questions, what is the genuinely oldest system still running SETI from the BOINC era? When did BOINC launch?
275) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel Core i7 created July 2004 ?! (Message 970514)
Posted 14 Feb 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
One of my oldest pending tasks finally timed out yesterday, and I took a look at what host it has been assigned to. I was a bit surprised to see Computer 99224, Owner: Anonymous, Created: 19 Jul 2004, CPU type: GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 940 @ 2.93GHz [Intel64 Family 6 Model 26 Stepping 4]

Could someone explain how that is possible? According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_i7 that CPU family was not launched until 2008.
276) Message boards : Number crunching : Why won't SETI stop running? (Message 970256)
Posted 13 Feb 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I had a similar event happen. From boinctray I had clicked on "snooze" to stop all processing so I could play a game. At some point in the game (I had been playing a while) the video got real choppy. I exited the game and checked on the "snooze" function. It was unchecked and all processing had resumed.

I was looking for a time value applied to "snooze", but I couldn't find one, thinking that there might have been a preset "snooze" period.

This seems to be a boinc problem as I run SETI and Einstein 24/7. Einstein is CPU only, and SETI is mostly GPU with some CPU thrown in occasionally. I don't know if that helps, but I thought I would throw it out there.

mdawson


In most current BOINC versions, Snooze stops CPU, and I think GPU, processing for 60 minutes. I dont have a CUDA capable GPU, but I'm sure someone will confirm this.

There are plans in development to have separate "Snooze CPU" and "Snooze GPU" features, possibly with settable time features. I don't think that these are yet available in current, recommended versions of BOINC.
277) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel Atom processor (Message 970248)
Posted 13 Feb 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My Intel Atom netbook now has a SETI RAC above 200. Can I manage 250 ?


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4725429

Well it has now gone past 250 RAC today, most of the last 2 weeks has been at or above 200. I have been crunching mostly SETI only for the last few weeks, with occasional RALPH and SIMAP. SIMAP will probably have new work in the next few days, so it may drop a bit, but I think it could get to 300 if I really tried!

Wow, it is almost as fast as my P4 2.8...probably closer to a P4 2.4.


I think it uses a lot less power than a P4, it does SSSE3 on a 25 or 40 Watt processor.


Just made it to a combined RAC for active projects above 300. SETI has been at or above 200 for at least 30 of the last 31 days, with a peak above 270, and 1 day when it dropped to about 193. SIMAP has just gone above 100 as well.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4725429
http://boinc.bio.wzw.tum.de/boincsimap/show_host_detail.php?hostid=134344
http://boincstats.com/stats/host_graph.php?pr=sah&id=4725429
http://boincstats.com/stats/host_graph.php?pr=simap&id=134344
278) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (28) Server problems (Message 969763)
Posted 11 Feb 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Just started having trouble uploading is something switched off? Just answered my question Bruno is disabled


According to Scarecrow's site, http://bluenorthernsoftware.com/scarecrow/sahstats/page.html it was Disabled some time within the last hour.

http://bluenorthernsoftware.com/scarecrow/sahstats/graphs.php also shows the awaiting Purge & Assimilation numbers have been increasing significantly over the last few days, so they may be running low on disk space.

I have not seen any posts from Matt over the last few days in Tech news, so he may be away, and the other staff are looking after the servers.
279) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz +NVIDIA ION (512MB) driver: 19621 (Message 969236)
Posted 8 Feb 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My Atom Netbook has had a SETI RAC above 200 since 12 Jan except for 1 day when it fell to ~193. The peak was ~270 a few day ago. I only have SETI, SIMAP and LHC allowing work at the moment.

SIMAP has had work for last 9 days, and probably will have for another 4. I like their tasks, as the crunch times are around 3 hours each on my CPU, and they usually award more credit than I claim. My current total RAC for active projects is over 290.
280) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (28) Server problems (Message 967926)
Posted 3 Feb 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
It's not just SETI's cricket graph that is down, I tried looking at a few other Berkeley routers and they are all missing data for the same period.
281) Message boards : Technical News : Deluge (Jan 27 2010) (Message 967923)
Posted 3 Feb 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Something appears to be wrong with the Gigabiteathernet site:

http://fragment1.berkeley.edu:80/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=/router-interfaces/inr-250/gigabitethernet2_3&ranges=d%3Aw&view=Octets It usually only flat-lines when SETI is down, such as on Tuesdays...

C

It looks more like the data collector isn't getting data from the router. Since that site is run by berkeleys IT department for their use. I'm sure they will work on it if they feel the need to.


I just tried looking at a few other routers randomly from that site. It looks like they have data problems with all of them for the same period, so it is not just SETI or SSL that is affected.
282) Message boards : Number crunching : Early SETI contributors - who's still around? (Message 967707)
Posted 2 Feb 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I hope that when you have 'borrowed' those computers, you at least got permission to run SETI on them.


If you read the post that you responded to, the poster appeared to be writing about what he did in the past.

I also joined SETI by running it on work computers over 10 years ago. At least 2 other co-workers were doing the same thing first, which is how I discovered SETI@home. We were working in a 2nd level helpdesk, and had some autonomy about what we did with work PCs.

I now only run SETI on my own computers.
283) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (28) Server problems (Message 966906)
Posted 30 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;ranges=d%3Aw%3Am%3Ay;view=octets has been pegged near the top for the last 18 hours or so, and has been higher than recent average for the last few days.

This is probably due to the combination of the return of Astropulse, combined with another run of "shorties". Best advice is probably to just be patient.

[edit]
Those graphs are Berkeley local time (PST), not UTC.
284) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel Atom processor (Message 966652)
Posted 29 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My Intel Atom netbook now has a SETI RAC above 200. Can I manage 250 ?


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4725429

Well it has now gone past 250 RAC today, most of the last 2 weeks has been at or above 200. I have been crunching mostly SETI only for the last few weeks, with occasional RALPH and SIMAP. SIMAP will probably have new work in the next few days, so it may drop a bit, but I think it could get to 300 if I really tried!

Wow, it is almost as fast as my P4 2.8...probably closer to a P4 2.4.


I think it uses a lot less power than a P4, it does SSSE3 on a 25 or 40 Watt processor.
285) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel Atom processor (Message 966647)
Posted 29 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My Intel Atom netbook now has a SETI RAC above 200. Can I manage 250 ?


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4725429

Well it has now gone past 250 RAC today, most of the last 2 weeks has been at or above 200. I have been crunching mostly SETI only for the last few weeks, with occasional RALPH and SIMAP. SIMAP will probably have new work in the next few days, so it may drop a bit, but I think it could get to 300 if I really tried!
286) Message boards : Number crunching : Missing Tasks (Message 966382)
Posted 28 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
HAL 9000 writes
"Ghost Tasks - Tasks assigned to you but due to an error your BOINC client software never got the message."

Ok. So this is a bug or some such in the BOINC system? Seems there should be a way to clear them early so they can be properly assigned to someone so they are being processed.

I am using BOINC version 6.10.18 btw.


As other people have already posted, S@h processes millions of tasks per week. A few hundred or thousand get lost, but they eventually time out and get re-sent. That is what many of your long-term pendings are. Sometimes hosts download thousands of tasks and just dissapear!

BOINC does have a feature to check that hosts do have the tasks they are supposed to have, but it puts a lot of strain on the database, so it is currently turned off for SETI, and possibly will never be turned on again.

The project staff appear to be satisfied with the "status quo". It is not perfect, but it works well enough most of the time.

The data that SETI is processing was recorded months or years ago, and has taken hundreds of years to come from distant stars. Another couple of weeks is not going to make a lot of difference, apart from some peoples pending credit.
287) Message boards : Number crunching : Missing Tasks (Message 966377)
Posted 28 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
...
But a method still exists to achieve what you ask, but to me it sounds pretty painful and involved. I've never tried this, but I've read here if you set your project to "No New Tasks," and let your work buffer run out, and then detach from the project, rejoin, and then detach again ... that any WU's the backend system thought were still assigned to you from that project would be NULLED and added back into the general pool. <-- But lets see if anyone confirms those steps before trying them out.


Good except for the second detach, should be attach.

If you are running optimized apps, you also need to re-install them. You may also want to back up your local copy of statistics_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml if you want to keep the stats in BOINC Manager.

I would agree that if you have 1 or 2 ghosts then it is not worth the effort. If you have dozens, or hundreds then it may by worth while.
288) Message boards : Number crunching : Simon thread.... (Message 965580)
Posted 24 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Suppose it's time I spoke up...I know what has happened to Simon--least I knew at the time period of several months back.

We were told when I was a mod exactly what was up with Simon (you were not a mod at the time Sattler). We were also told explicitly not to say on the forums what the situation was.

Pappa was the person who said we were not to post the reason on the forums.

Let's please stop speculation and respect Simon's privacy. If he wants to return he shall.


Thank You Blurf for shedding a little light on the mystery. At least we know that Simon is alive.

Having been involved in a previous hunt into someones past, I appreciate that we don't have a right to know about some things, however much we would like to know.

I suppose it is because many of us are trying to solve one of the biggest questions that humanity has, we are all very inquisitive people.

Keith
289) Message boards : Number crunching : Secondary science database bambi online again (Message 965534)
Posted 23 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Well spotted, according to Scarecrow's pages http://bluenorthernsoftware.com/scarecrow/sahstats/page.html it came online between 12:08 UTC and 13:08 UTC today.

The AP splitters are still offline at the moment.
290) Questions and Answers : Wish list : When a thread gets locked. (Message 965187)
Posted 22 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Sometimes threads get locked or hidden.

If a thread gets locked, but is still viewable, it would be useful to know the reason.

e.g.

1) Thread locked at the request of the originator (OP) because it got off-topic.
2) Thread locked by a moderator for ... reason.
3) Thread auto-locked after x days of inactivity.

I know that a thread can be unlocked under some circumstanes, it would also be useful if a message could be put in the last post of a thread advising how to try to get a thread unlocked.

Keith.
291) Message boards : Number crunching : Simon thread.... (Message 965184)
Posted 22 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I miss Simon too, one of the mysteries of the internet.

His last post here seems to have been 12 Aug 2007.
On the Lunatics boards, he was around for a few more days or weeks.

Someone must know the answer! (The truth is out there!)
292) Message boards : Number crunching : Simon thread.... (Message 965181)
Posted 22 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
The first one got locked (allegedly at the request of the OP), the second one got hidden by a mod.

If you look in some peoples posting history, the posts are still visible although the thread is not.
293) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy birthday MSattler! (Message 964755)
Posted 20 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Happy Birthday from me too (for yesterday).

Post # 666 !!

on the way too !
294) Message boards : Technical News : Continuous (Jan 12 2010) (Message 964655)
Posted 19 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
The Replica Database has been OFFLINE since about 01:00 on 18 Jan. I posted this yesterday in the Panic Mode (28) thread in NC. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=58415&nowrap=true#964348

Yesterday was a Public Holiday in the USA.

[edit]
For those that did not know, Stats exports, User Data pages, and various other pages rely on the Replica Database.
[/edit]
295) Message boards : Number crunching : **CLOSED SETI/BOINC Milestones [ v2.0 ] - XIX CLOSED** (Message 964431)
Posted 18 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
The kitty crew has just reached the 50 million mark for Seti crunching.
Took a while to get this far.

Meanwhile, congrats from the kitties for all who reach their personal milestones.

Meow meow.


Well done, I noticed you were almost there a few days ago. Next milestone is probably the 1st page of "Top participants" sorted by Total Credit, you are currently #22 near the top of page 2.
296) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (28) Server problems (Message 964348)
Posted 18 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Replica Database is OFFLINE.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html
http://bluenorthernsoftware.com/scarecrow/sahstats/db.php?t=24
297) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Don't use Internet Explorer, Warning about Exploit (Message 964100)
Posted 17 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8463516.stm
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/15/ie_zero_day_exploit_goes_wild/
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2358157,00.asp

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/advisory/979352.mspx
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/979352

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers

Plenty of other browsers to choose from e.g. Opera, Firefox, Chrome, Safari.

If you must use Internet Explorer, set the security level to High, at least until MS releases a patch for this new exploit.
298) Message boards : Number crunching : Question About Report Function (Message 963817)
Posted 16 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
...
Actually, what I am trying to find out is: if left alone, what is the maximum amount of time between Updates by BOINC (for SETI, where my machines process WUs in a few hours at most)? (Assuming that all is OK with the servers and there are no Berkeley network issues).


I think it is 24 hours, assuming that you have completed at least 1 task within those 24 hours.

AFIK, completed means finished crunching, and uploaded sucessfully.

Deadline is the date in BOINC Manager when the task is due by, this varies with each task according to Angle Range. It is usually between 14 days and ~2 months.
299) Message boards : Number crunching : Rig on the BENCH (Message 963212)
Posted 14 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
...
The OS cannot address more than the physical processor supports. A 32bit processor with a 32bit address space, or a 64bit processor operating in 32bit mode can only access 2^32, which is 4,194,304 total bytes of RAM, or 4GB.


I think that's 4MB. 2^32 is 4,294,967,296
300) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel Atom processor (Message 963009)
Posted 13 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My Intel Atom netbook now has a SETI RAC above 200. Can I manage 250 ?
301) Message boards : Technical News : A Billion or So (Jan 06 2010) (Message 961374)
Posted 7 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
This is just a theory, as I have not seen the system, you might have some AC ripple leaking through onto a DC line, due to a filter breaking down. Is it possible to swap out a power unit?

I used to be an avionics tech in the Air Force back in the '80s. I have seen a few wierd snags get tracked down to bad power or bad grounding or earthing.

Keith T.
302) Message boards : Technical News : A Billion or So (Jan 06 2010) (Message 961367)
Posted 6 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Thanks for the news Matt, glad most things are doing OK.

Did you see my questions in http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=56160? What happened to Mork a few days ago? Have you eliminated any intermittant hardware problems?
303) Message boards : Number crunching : **CLOSED SETI/BOINC Milestones [ v2.0 ] - XIX CLOSED** (Message 961025)
Posted 5 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I currently need 105 credits to push me over 100,000 SETI credits.

When the Upload servers and Validators are back online, I should be there.


Yay, some of my tasks uploaded and validated OK. SETI is now my first project to hit 6 digits, 1 day before my 3rd aniversary of using BOINC.
304) Message boards : Number crunching : **CLOSED SETI/BOINC Milestones [ v2.0 ] - XIX CLOSED** (Message 960902)
Posted 5 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I currently need 105 credits to push me over 100,000 SETI credits.

When the Upload servers and Validators are back online, I should be there.
305) Message boards : Number crunching : silly questions? (Message 960603)
Posted 3 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
...
I keep my house about 23C or 74F all year round. That's of course if the kids haven't messed with the thermostat.



Google "tamper proof thermostat" or "thermostat lock"

What part of the USA do you live? 23C seems a little high to me in the UK, I prefer 20 or 21 C as as comfortable home temperature.

HTH, Keith
306) Message boards : Technical News : Meh (Nov 09 2009) (Message 959975)
Posted 1 Jan 2010 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Happy New Year to all the staff. Thanks for working on a holiday to get the project back on line.

I suspect it was Mork which crashed again today. Any news on the hardware side of things? Could a PSU or UPS be causing power spikes due to insufficant filtering, maybe some capacitors just on the limits of tolerance?

[edit]changed "suffering from spikes" to "causing spikes".[/edit]
307) Message boards : Number crunching : Many tasks result in VALIDATE ERRORS 29 Dec 09 (Message 959325)
Posted 29 Dec 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
The tasks/WUs with this error have the text "Validate Error". Any other errors e.g. Compute Error are not affected by this problem.

I have had some sucessfull validations since I created this thread so I am going to change the thread title from "WARNING: All tasks result in VALIDATE ERRORS 29/12" to "Many tasks result in VALIDATE ERRORS 29 Dec 09"
308) Message boards : Number crunching : Many tasks result in VALIDATE ERRORS 29 Dec 09 (Message 959103)
Posted 29 Dec 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Thanks for the replies, I saw other reports in the "Panic" thread, but I started this one so that some people may want to Suspend Network activity until this problem is resolved, otherwise their work may be wasted, as Validate Errors are a server side problem, nothing wrong with the work done by the client.
309) Message boards : Number crunching : Many tasks result in VALIDATE ERRORS 29 Dec 09 (Message 959096)
Posted 29 Dec 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Just uploaded 4 tasks sucessfully, about 5 minutes later BOINC asked for new work.

I checked my Tasks page and all 4 tasks have the outcome "Validate Error".

It seems that there is currently a problem at the server side.

Keith
310) Message boards : Number crunching : Intel Atom processor (Message 958855)
Posted 26 Dec 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I've been crunching with a Samsung Netbook for just over 1 year. It has sucessfully crunched tasks on 9 projects. My previous main cruncher was an Athlon XP which has been powered down since May. I usually crunch about 23/7 including 3 or 4 hours a day while running on batteries. I have a car power supply and I am on the road about 10 hours a day, 6 days a week.

I also use T-Mobile mobile broadband (3GB/month) and public WiFi in coffee shops and McD etc. All my recent crunching has been done on this one PC.
311) Message boards : Technical News : Cool (Dec 22 2009) (Message 958820)
Posted 26 Dec 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Will the http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ servers also be affected by the power outage? I seem to remember that those servers used to be co-located with S@h servers.

I checked the BOINC front page, there is no warning there of a power outage at the moment.

Hope everything goes down and back up smoothly.

Keith

[edit]
Also I assume that http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/ SETI Beta will also be down as well. No warning on that site either, although it will affect a lot less people than BOINC servers going down, which is linked from every BOINC project.[/edit]
312) Message boards : Number crunching : Volunteer tester (Message 953382)
Posted 9 Dec 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I've been crunching for beta for awhile now. If the Volunteer Tester tag is supposed to be automatic, then something is wrong, because it doesn't show up for me either.


I noticed that you and Julie both joined SETI Beta on the same date [13 Nov 2009]. I suspect that may be more than co-incidence. Try sending a PM to Pappa or Eric Korpela.
313) Message boards : SETI@home Science : SETI@home in the News (Message 951719)
Posted 2 Dec 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I know it is already being discussed in 2 other threads in NC and Cafe, but I think the NEZ story deserves a mention here as well.

I think this story could affect S@h directly, so it deserves some comment from the project staff.

Keith.

[edit]
Just done a Google News search for NEZ or Brad Niesluchowski, that story has gone from about 4 hits this time yesterday to over 90 today.[/edit]
314) Message boards : Number crunching : **CLOSED SETI/BOINC Milestones [ v2.0 ] - XIX CLOSED** (Message 950488)
Posted 28 Nov 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My little Samsung NC10 NetBook has just managed to reach an RAC of 200 on SIMAP. It has also recently completed its first AstroPulse task over at SETI Beta in just under 200 hrs CPU time.
315) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Shuttle STS129, Atlantis (Message 950154)
Posted 27 Nov 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Landing due at KSC today.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html
316) Message boards : Number crunching : *CLOSED SETI/BOINC Milestones (tm) XVIII /CLOSED* (Message 948035)
Posted 18 Nov 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I passed 200,000 combined BOINC yesterday. Also passed 20,000 for SIMAP/BOINCSIMAP yesterday.

Until a few weeks ago I was on target to hit 100,000 on SETI before the end of the year, but SIMAP has had a larger than usual workload this month. Also recently re-started crunching for SETI Beta.

Keith
317) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Shuttle STS129, Atlantis (Message 947678)
Posted 16 Nov 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:


I watched it live on NASA TV online. British TV stations rarely carry anything about NASA unless there is some sort of problem, I suppose good news does not make TV ratings!
318) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Shuttle STS129, Atlantis (Message 947599)
Posted 16 Nov 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Atlantis, Launch due 14:28 EST, 19:28 UTC

http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/
http://countdown.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/cdt/
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html
319) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What browser do you use? (Message 947597)
Posted 16 Nov 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Opera v 9 here at the moment. I occasionally use Firefox, very rarely IE8, I also have Safari and Chrome on this PC, but have not used them in the last 3 months. I have downloaded Opera v 10, but not installed yet.
320) Message boards : Technical News : Meh (Nov 09 2009) (Message 946374)
Posted 10 Nov 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Is any of the hardware in your server closet of the vintage where it could be prone to the "Capacitor Plague" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague?
321) Message boards : Number crunching : [error calcul] -12 error (Message 945643)
Posted 7 Nov 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1411990227

<core_client_version>6.10.17</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
- exit code -12 (0xfffffff4)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
setiathome_CUDA: Found 1 CUDA device(s):
Device 1 : GeForce 8400 GS
totalGlobalMem = 268435456
sharedMemPerBlock = 16384
regsPerBlock = 8192
warpSize = 32
memPitch = 262144
maxThreadsPerBlock = 512
clockRate = 1350000
totalConstMem = 65536
major = 1
minor = 1
textureAlignment = 256
deviceOverlap = 1
multiProcessorCount = 2
setiathome_CUDA: CUDA Device 1 specified, checking...
Device 1: GeForce 8400 GS is okay
SETI@home using CUDA accelerated device GeForce 8400 GS
setiathome_enhanced 6.03 Visual Studio/Microsoft C++
libboinc: 6.3.22

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is : 0.396036
Optimal function choices:
-----------------------------------------------------
name
-----------------------------------------------------
v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
v_GetPowerSpectrum 0.00055 0.00000
v_ChirpData 0.02157 0.00000
v_Transpose4 0.01320 0.00000
FPU opt folding 0.00363 0.00000
SETI@home error -12 Unknown error
cudaAcc_find_triplets erroneously found a triplet twice in find_triplets_kernel
File: c:/sw/gpgpu/seti/seti_boinc/client/cuda/cudaAcc_pulsefind.cu
Line: 236


</stderr_txt>
]]>


Google Translate

"SETI @ home erreur -12 Erreur inconnue
cudaAcc_find_triplets tort trouvé un triplet à deux reprises en find_triplets_kernel
Fichier: C: / sw / GPGPU / seti / seti_boinc / client / cuda / cudaAcc_pulsefind.cu
Ligne: 236"
322) Message boards : Number crunching : Optimum Cache Size? (Message 941152)
Posted 18 Oct 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My car speedo goes up to 160MPH, should I drive it at that speed?
BOINC allows 10 days cache, should I use it?

I usually drive within, or maybe 5 or 10 over the limit.
I usually run 2 or 3 days cache.
323) Message boards : Number crunching : *CLOSED SETI/BOINC Milestones (tm) XVIII /CLOSED* (Message 938112)
Posted 7 Oct 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Not a round number, but it still looks nice; Total SETI@home credit 88888.58
324) Message boards : Number crunching : Sneak 'er on? (Message 934272)
Posted 18 Sep 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Many companies and schools DO run BOINC projects on their systems, because the guys in charge of those systems approve of it.

Get to know who is in charge, and find out what they think of "volunteer distributed computing" in general.

That is about the best that you can do as far as I know.

Good Luck, Keith
325) Message boards : Number crunching : Sneak 'er on? (Message 934265)
Posted 18 Sep 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
NO.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/info.php

Run SETI@home only on authorized computers

Run SETI@home only on computers that you own, or for which you have obtained the owner's permission. Some companies and schools have policies that prohibit using their computers for projects such as SETI@home.
326) Message boards : Number crunching : IF "no work available" THEN resend ? (Message 930337)
Posted 2 Sep 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I don't know how much load this would place on the schedulers and other servers, but with the current lack of new tasks, and the high number of lost tasks, could early resends be created.

I would suggest resending tasks older than 10 or 14 days after they are first sent, when one or both of the replies have not been received.

I am aware that the original task would have to be kept until the deadline had passed, but in many cases this will just time out.

I know this will occasionally result in unnecessary duplication of tasks, but we used to have a replication of 3 or 4, so there would not be much waste.

Comments and suggestions please.

[edit] changed quorum to replication
327) Message boards : Number crunching : Welcome to the 10 year club (Message 928219)
Posted 23 Aug 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
10 years today for me.

I ran classic until 2004, then started using BOINC in 2007.

http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/classpages/days/2451414.html
328) Message boards : Number crunching : Lost Cuda workunits. (Message 926975)
Posted 18 Aug 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I had some cuda wu's on my system and it had to go in for a new graphics card and when i got it back those work units are no longer on my system. Is there anything that can be done All the work units were downloaded on the 14 Aug.

thanks if you can help.


SETI@home does not currently have the BOINC feature to "resend lost work" enabled. I understand that it puts too much load on the the servers. I don't know if it will ever be turned on again; I think it was last used for a few weeks, about a year ago before CUDA had arrived on the scene.

There is a way that you can free up tasks yourself, but it is only worth while if you have a large number of lost units.

First you need to set "no new tasks" and complete the work currently in your cache.

Then you have to detach and then re-attach to the project. This will tell the servers that work can be sent to new hosts as it is marked "Client Detached".

If you do this you will also loose your local copy of host history in the Statistics section, so if you want to preserve this you need to make a backup copy of the file "statistics_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml"

You will also need to re-install any optimized applications again as SETI will re-start using the default, stock apps.

If you don't want to do all that, then those tasks will eventually just time out and be re-sent after the deadline, so it depends on how much effort you want to put into this. I am sure some of your wingmen will appreciate your effort in reduced pending times.

Keith
329) Message boards : Number crunching : Completed, can't validate, Too many success results (Message 925228)
Posted 10 Aug 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Thanks for the replies, I thought that this was a remarkable WU.

I have listed all the computers involved here:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4934397
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4588702
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4918002
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5049605
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=5032210
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4951639

I know that at least one of them has produced no valid CUDA tasks over the last few weeks. There does seem to be a concensus that the task was noisey, but somehow all the hosts found a different ammount of noise.

I think this was probably an exceptional case, but I hope valid science does not get thrown away by a combination of noisey hosts.
330) Message boards : Number crunching : Completed, can't validate, Too many success results (Message 925166)
Posted 10 Aug 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Can someone please try to explain this error? I have just seen it on http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=484354647.

The last task returned on that WU was 9 Aug 2009 21:57:20 UTC so there are a few hours before it is purged from the database.

I am sure an expert can probably explain it, but it is a new one on me.
331) Message boards : Number crunching : Noisy GPU workunits (Message 923625)
Posted 4 Aug 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
One of my wingmen http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4951639 seems to have a similar problem. I have just sent him a PM.

Keith
332) Message boards : Number crunching : When Boredom leads to Registry Editing.......... (Message 919388)
Posted 19 Jul 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
If they were not at bandwidth/server limits now. I'd like to see a BOINC app for my phone. :D

Like Boincoid perhaps?
                                                                Joe


Just read that. I have thought of a possible more useful alternate platform; run BOINC apps on the embedded processors in cars!

A modern car has many CPUs to handle different functions. The car also has a much bigger power supply than a mobile cell phone.

Obviously some of those processors are safety critical like ABS braking, but most of the time these CPUs are sitting idle, particularly when the car is parked with the engine not running, the battery power is still available.

This is probably just a theoretical application, but it would probably be more useful than trying to run apps on a phone.

Keith
333) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (20) Server problems (Message 918440)
Posted 16 Jul 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I have a slightly different upload problem. All but one of my stuck uploads have cleared, except for http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1302869985.

BoincView log shows that task completed 14/07/09 23:35 and I have completed and uploaded 7 other tasks since. For some reason this older task is still stuck even though more recent ones have cleared.

I think a similar problem has happened before. It may be linked to ISP, I use T-Mobile "mobile broadband". I will try an upload later when I have an alternate internet access through a public WiFi connetion.

Keith

[Edit]
Now 8 sucesses after this one stuck result.
334) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Hackers breach UC Berkeley computer database (Message 893605)
Posted 11 May 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Here is the official UCB news release.
http://datatheft.berkeley.edu/news.shtml
335) Message boards : Cafe SETI : This is the most inspirational news story I have seen this year. (Message 893404)
Posted 10 May 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Injured Vet Completes Marathon In 13 Days
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/09/eveningnews/main5003713.shtml

Injured major completes marathon
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8041374.stm

Soldier told he would never walk again finishes London marathon
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/may/09/major-phil-packer-london-marathon

Major Phil Packer finishes marathon
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/more_sport/athletics/article6255639.ece

Major Phil Packer completes London Marathon
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/paralympicsport/5304281/Major-Phil-Packer-completes-London-Marathon.html

Keith.
336) Message boards : Number crunching : **CLOSED SETI/BOINC Milestones (tm) XVI CLOSED** (Message 859405)
Posted 29 Jan 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I've just passed 60K Total SETI credit. I know that many have a RAC as high as this, but it is still a personal milestone.

I recently started crunching with an Intel Atom "netbook" which has boosted my RAC as well.

My 3 hosts are atttached to 12 BOINC projects, not all crunching for all projects at any time.
337) Message boards : Number crunching : Link for ap400.jpg? (Message 848976)
Posted 3 Jan 2009 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Hi again.

Ticking the Skip Image File Verification box has no effect. The program still tries to verify the download. Is this a bug that can be fixed?

Thanks,

Simon.


I can also confirm that Skip Image File Verification has no effect. I also use a Mobile (Cellular) ISP.

SETI@home and SETI Beta seem to be the only projects that need a JPG file downloaded correctly for the app to work.

Fortunately the KWSN Optimized apps don't need a JPG file to work.

This situation has been the same since I joined BOINC SETI in January 2006
338) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (11) Server problems (Message 844986)
Posted 25 Dec 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Windows users, if you have stuck uploads, try "ipconfig/flushdns" from a command prompt. It just worked for me.

Merry Christmas to all.

Keith.
339) Message boards : Number crunching : How long does it take You to do WU ??? (Message 839004)
Posted 11 Dec 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My Athlon XP 2200+ takes 5.5 to 7 hrs for most MultiBeam WUs, depending on AR, Shorties take around 2.25 hrs. That's using optimized apps.

Last AP task I did was in Beta, back in August, using 4.35 non-optimized. That took 238 hours.
340) Message boards : Number crunching : Happy Holidays! So long, everyone! (Message 834878)
Posted 27 Nov 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Your fastest PC Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz can process average tasks in under 1 hour. The deadline for those tasks is around 3 weeks. The tasks checkpoint every minute. So you should be able to keep at least one cruncher running, even if you do not run it more than 20 minutes/day it will still get 2 WU's done every 3 days.

Hope you keep limited crunching.

Keith.
341) Message boards : Number crunching : Down with Beta? (Message 832420)
Posted 20 Nov 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Interesting idea, although I don't think it will happen.

Some other BOINC projects have different Beta (or Alpha) policies.

Rosetta routinely send out Beta applications and tasks to all users without an option to chose not to run those tasks, apart from aborting certain tasks when they are received. They also have an under-utilised project called RALPH (Rosetta Alpha).

Malaria Control has an option to choose which of its applications to run, some of these are test or beta apps.

Those are only the projects which I am aware of, although some other projects, MilkyWay, Orbit are beta or alpha projects.
342) Message boards : Number crunching : Too many Stickies (Message 831787)
Posted 18 Nov 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
While you are looking at this, please could you also take a look at whether there is still a need for separate Message boards and Questions and Answers pages.
...


This process is currently only for stickies. We will not be adding any new forums or removing any at this current time.


Thanks for the reply. I hope my suggestion will be considered by admin when they have time to look at it. I think it has been suggested before by others.

K.
343) Message boards : Number crunching : Too many Stickies (Message 831783)
Posted 18 Nov 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
While you are looking at this, please could you also take a look at whether there is still a need for separate Message boards and Questions and Answers pages.

I have noticed that some projects have these combined. It may help to get some of the more "help related" posts into a more appropriate forum, as NC seems to be very much a "catch all" forum at the moment.

At the same time you could create an extra Optimized Apps forum to help users to get the best app for their CPU.

Keith.

[edit]
If you are logged in, it is possible to choose Do not reorder sticky posts in Community preferences
[/edit]
344) Message boards : Number crunching : Has anyone seen a 'trough' in their data? (Message 831133)
Posted 16 Nov 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
This could be an effect of the "radar blanking" that is being applied to some of the data recorded at Arecibo.

See Technical News archives for more information. A nearby military radar site somtimes causes interferance, which can cause many of the -9 overflow "found too many pulses" problems.

SETI staff are now compensating for some of this local Terrestrial noise by applying a blanking compensation.

This may be what you have seen.

Keith.
345) Message boards : Number crunching : CLOSED* SETI/BOINC Milestones (tm) XV *CLOSED (Message 828903)
Posted 10 Nov 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I noticed that NEZ passed 500,000,000 total SETI credits yesterday!
346) Message boards : Technical News : Composite Head (Nov 05 2008) (Message 828253)
Posted 8 Nov 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
There is a feature in the BOINC server code to prevent (successful) repeat requests for work within a defined period.

LHC@home uses it set to ~ 15 minutes
Many other projects have it set between 1 - 4 minutes
On SETI it is set at ~ 7 or 9 seconds.

Surely increasing the Communication deferral to e.g. 10 minutes would releive a lot of the load on the servers.
347) Message boards : Technical News : Circles (Nov 04 2008) (Message 827059)
Posted 5 Nov 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Thanks for the updates as usual Matt.

The US elections have been one of the top stories on the TV news for about the last week in the UK.

I just tried clicking on the "other international versions" of Google News and it looks like the top story just about everywhere that I looked!
348) Message boards : Number crunching : Other projects offline (Message 821846)
Posted 22 Oct 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
http://www.climateprediction.net/index.php is back. My latest trickle message just uploaded.
349) Message boards : Number crunching : Task ID Rollover 999999999 - 1000000000 (Message 818735)
Posted 15 Oct 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Still a few of the 9999xxxxx tasks out there. I got this WU re-issued today.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=337654002
350) Message boards : Number crunching : Users from Germany reporting bad route (Message 816627)
Posted 10 Oct 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
It was not just Germany users that had problems.

I am in UK using T-Mobile and also had problems for last 2 days.

All now working OK.

Keith.
351) Message boards : Number crunching : The new #1 host.. AMD? :-D - EDIT: yes! :-) (Message 815611)
Posted 7 Oct 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
That is very good going by that host! The rest of the Top 100 is all Intel, next AMD is currently #121.

Keith.
352) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Steve Fossett documents and wreckage found. (Message 814004)
Posted 2 Oct 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE4907G820081002
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=&q=Steve+Fossett&btnG=Search+News
353) Message boards : Number crunching : Task ID Rollover 999999999 - 1000000000 (Message 811832)
Posted 25 Sep 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Getting reallllly close. I'm tempted to stay up late and wait for it.

This may be a silly question but where do you go to see the wu id that has just been created? Apart from look under your account & then clicking on tasks.
Thanks
Speedy


No, not a silly question.

I edited the url in my browser address box by adding a few 000 to the current # until I got to one that did not exist yet.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=999999999 Created 24 Sep 2008 6:37:00 UTC
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1000000000 Created 24 Sep 2008 6:37:00 UTC

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1000099999 Created 24 Sep 2008 7:56:09 UTC
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1000999999 Created 25 Sep 2008 1:17:45 UTC
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1001000000 Created 25 Sep 2008 1:17:45 UTC
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1009999999 No such task

[edit]
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=1001400000 Created 25 Sep 2008 9:50:06 UTC

I think you get the idea, that last one was created about 10 minutes ago.

Keith
354) Message boards : Technical News : I Can't Drive RAID5 (Sep 23 2008) (Message 811704)
Posted 25 Sep 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:

. . . Matt re: Comment 811617 (mentality) - reminds me of Michael Crichton's writings ;)



Somehow reminds me of "Kryten", the Red Dwarf one, not the former server!
355) Message boards : Number crunching : Task ID Rollover 999999999 - 1000000000 (Message 811403)
Posted 23 Sep 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Just been looking at my recent results, it looks like task ID 1000000000 will be issued today or tomorrow.

999475999 has already been created but currently unsent.


One Billion, 10^9 (10+E9), that's quite a lot ;)


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=999585999 was created a few minutes ago, so the 1 Billionth Task should arrive some time tomorrow UTC.

Keith.
356) Message boards : Number crunching : Task ID Rollover 999999999 - 1000000000 (Message 811213)
Posted 23 Sep 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Just been looking at my recent results, it looks like task ID 1000000000 will be issued today or tomorrow.

999475999 has already been created but currently unsent.
357) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI (or BOINC) and laptops (Message 809430)
Posted 18 Sep 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I have always ran seti on my laptops since day 1. 100% unless on battery.
I just keep the lid open to keep it cooler.
Not recommended if you want to use it ON your "lap" b/c it will get toasty.
:)




I don't currently use a laptop regularly, but do I remember this report from a few years ago.
358) Message boards : Number crunching : LHC - will it revolutionize the internet ? ? (Message 807248)
Posted 12 Sep 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
As predicted by Neasan, http://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/server_status.php now has WU's to crunch.

LHC@home WU's have in the past mostly been 1 of 3 run times, depending on the number of turns of the LHC that they simulate.

LHC@home have: minimum quorum 3, initial replication 5 on their WU's. They have recently updated BOINC server code to a version which supports cancellation of redundant results.

Happy LHC crunching, Keith
359) Message boards : Number crunching : Netiquette Reminder (Message 807069)
Posted 11 Sep 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
...
The same goes for graphics that are put into posters' sigs. There's a few examples here in this thread (and most others) where various sig graphics can scroll for an entire screenful!

The sig text was very deliberately limited to about 250 characters. Can we also have the sig wrapped in some html such that the maximum display area is no more than say 1/10th of the window height (or user configurable even) and no wider than the column width?

Either that or I guess most people will have the sigs turned off. Then, noone gets to see any sig, reasonable sized or not...

Thoughts?

Where to send the request for the sig area limiter??

Cheers,
Martin


I may be guilty of that one. I added a picture of Arthur C Clarke to my sig shortly after his death.

If the image is too large for most people, then I will certainly attempt to trim it, I had thought before that it was a little on the large side, but I don't add my sig to every thread that I post to, and if I post multiple times to the same thread, I usually only use the sig once.
360) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : September 10th 2008 - Cern LHC switch on (Message 806646)
Posted 10 Sep 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
If you are in the UK, BBC Radio 4 is doing a whole day of broadcasts from CERN.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/bigbang/programmes.shtml will take you to the guide.

I think most of this will be webcast too.

Also for those in Western Europe, you may be able to receive Radio 4 on 198 kHz AM Long Wave (1500m).
361) Message boards : Number crunching : LHC - will it revolutionize the internet ? ? (Message 806638)
Posted 10 Sep 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
LHC@home has been mostly about simulating the creation of the LHC.

The project staff over there have announced that there will be plenty of WU's over the next few weeks, however the actual data that The Grid will be processing will not be going to BOINC clients for the moment because the WU's for that data would be about 1 GB in size, which is not feasible to be worked on by BOINC.

[edit]
http://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/forum_user_posts.php?userid=64532
362) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Google Launches New "Chrome" Browser Today! (Message 804997)
Posted 4 Sep 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Larry Page and Sergey Brin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Brin
363) Message boards : Number crunching : Internet Explorer 8 Beta2 is out (Message 804633)
Posted 3 Sep 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I see we have a Chrome thread in the Cafe. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=49134.

Apart from Joker's comments, I noticed that Chrome insists on being installed on C: drive.

As my C: drive is 10% of the size of my D: drive, where I usually install all programs, I will give Chrome a miss until they fix at least that "feature".
364) Message boards : Number crunching : Internet Explorer 8 Beta2 is out (Message 804371)
Posted 2 Sep 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Just read that Google is about to join the browser market.

Google launches internet browser

K.


Quoting my own post, I am posting this using Google Chrome (BETA).

K.
365) Message boards : Number crunching : Internet Explorer 8 Beta2 is out (Message 804319)
Posted 2 Sep 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Just read that Google is about to join the browser market.

Google launches internet browser

K.
366) Message boards : Number crunching : Seti City..... (Message 804271)
Posted 2 Sep 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
http://seti-city.myminicity.com/ranking?region=US;page=7

Please click http://seti-city.myminicity.com/ to move our mini-city up a few places in the rankings.

Keith
367) Questions and Answers : Windows : Incomplete read - seti_603.jpg (Message 803671)
Posted 31 Aug 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I'm getting the following error whenever my boinc tries to download a work unit:

25/08/2008 13:45:59|SETI@home|Started download of 08jl08ab.21506.22158.3.8.47
25/08/2008 13:46:01|SETI@home|Incomplete read of 4250.000000 < 5KB for seti_603.jpg - truncating
25/08/2008 13:46:01|SETI@home|Finished download of seti_603.jpg
25/08/2008 13:46:01|SETI@home|[error] Checksum or signature error for seti_603.jpg
25/08/2008 13:46:04|SETI@home|Finished download of 08jl08ab.21506.22158.3.8.47

I've tried manually pulling down the file but every time a work unit tries to download it removes the good file and generates that error again.

Any ideas what's causing this?


Do you connect via a mobile data network? I have used Orange and T-Mobile, and they both compress JPG files. I think all mobile/cellular networks probably do the same.

If you can download a good copy of the file (9,068 bytes) then make it read only by right clicking and selecting. Then copy or move the file to the \Program Files\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu folder and you shoud download all the other files OK.

Keith

[edit]
Read your other post, I see my guess was right, you use Vodafone.

I think the option to skip image file verification does not work correctly, I have tried this in the past, and it did not work with BOINC 5.8 or 5.10
[/edit]
368) Questions and Answers : Windows : PC Not Downloading (Message 803632)
Posted 31 Aug 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
2008-08-30 18:23:23 [SETI@home] Requesting 1555200 seconds of new work

% of time BOINC client is running 32.1955 %

I think you'll find the above two to be the problem. You're asking for 18 days worth of work, yet (probably because of your 2 weeks vacation) BOINC thinks it only runs for 1/3th of the time. So it won't be able to finish all the work before the deadline and thus not send you anything.

Scale down your work request to something more normal and it will probably go fetch work again. Remember that the mean deadline here at Seti is 14 to 21 days.


You can carefully edit the client_state.xml in the BOINC folder.

The part you would need to edit is:

<on_frac>0.32xxxx</on_frac>

to read a larger value.

I think it needs to be <= 1 so you could make it 0.999999 as it may need to defined to 6 decimal places.

You need to close BOINC completely before editing client_state.xml. You shold also double check using Task Manager that all BOINC processes and services have stopped.

I would also reduce your work requests to a more reasonable value, as Jord says, you are currently asking for 18 days of work, I think 3 - 5 days is usually enough for most normal computers.

K.

[edit]
Make sure that you save the file as plain text. Windows Notepad is probaly the best editor to use.
[/edit]
369) Message boards : Number crunching : Internet Explorer 8 Beta2 is out (Message 803225)
Posted 29 Aug 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Opera user here too, I have never got around to using Firefox much, although I have tried it a few times.

I was also using IE8 Beta 1 and have recently installed Beta 2, will give it a few days before I give a verdict.

K.
370) Message boards : Number crunching : Need help with BOINC (Message 803156)
Posted 29 Aug 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Saw your post in the Tech News forum, you may be getting work deferrals because BOINC currently thinks you have enough work on board for SETI, or another project.

If the PC has been turned off for 2 weeks, then the on_frac value in the BOINC client state file will be lower than normal, particularly if the PC is usually on 24/7.

BOINC will gradually correct this value as time goes by, may take a few days to recover.

You can see various data for each of your machines in your account pages. Here are mine for one of my PC's

% of time BOINC client is running 76.8442 %
While BOINC running, % of time work is allowed 99.8917 %
Average CPU efficiency 0.832727
Task duration correction factor 0.614139

HTH, Keith


I sent that as a PM to Cherokee150, as this thread was originally posted in Tech News.

I have re-posted it here because it is not really private, and it may help someone else with a similar problem.

Keith
371) Message boards : Number crunching : How much RAC does SETI@home need for pseudo-realtime analysis? (Message 802700)
Posted 28 Aug 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Greetings folks, I'm new to the whole BOINC scene so please forgive my ignorance. I have a technical question about the SETI@home project itself:

Assuming that SETI@home had sufficient server resources and bandwidth, how high of a sustained RAC does SETI@home need to process workunits as fast as it receives them from the data feeds it gets from the telescope? Disregarding the latency incurred by multiple validations and actually receiving the raw data in the first place. I am unclear as to whether this can be determined by looking at the result turn-around time on the Server status page.

For now I'm just curious about the standard multi-beam analysis and not Astropulse, although it would be fascinating to know that too if someone knows how to figure it out.

Thank you!

P.S. it would be awesome if someday this was figured out and calculated on the Server status page (perhaps as a ratio - Current RAC/Desired RAC?) It would give some of us something more "tangible" to focus on when determining what types of resources would be necessary to contribute a desired amount of processing to the project.



Not sure if I totally understand your question.

The data is collected at Arecibo Observatory and is shipped to the labs at UC Berkeley, Space Sciences Laboratory, by courier, on 750 GB HDD's. (It used to be DLT tapes, and the project staff still refer to a recording session on disk as a "tape").

Of course the data that is received at Arecibo may have taken thousands of years to arrive at the telescope, from some distant star system.

HTH, Keith
372) Message boards : Technical News : Tuesday Edition (Aug 26 2008) (Message 802681)
Posted 28 Aug 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Thank you for this information, now I have a problem I have a small knowledge of computers. So I was wondering if you we can have this with laymans language, so that people like myself can truly understand what a great job you are doing and what you are doing every week to improve this wonderful system.


@ madmac

I think Matt does already post mostly in understandable language, after all this is the "Technical News" forum.

May I suggest that if you don't understand a particular technical term, you could try looking it up on a site like http://www.whatis.com or http://www.wikipedia.org or Google etc.

Regards, Keith
373) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Funny how obvious a virus site can be..... (Message 802509)
Posted 27 Aug 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Someone on board the International Space Station has managed to get a virus into space!

Computer viruses make it to orbit
NASA Discovers Computer Virus Aboard the International Space Station
374) Message boards : Number crunching : Still Unable to Download Work Units (Message 802086)
Posted 25 Aug 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I have been unable to download workunits since the recent server outage about two weeks ago. I get the annoying error 'Incomplete read of 4250.000000 < 5KB for seti_603.jpg - truncating' and '[error] Checksum or signature error for seti_603.jpg.' I have set Skip Image File Verification in my preferences but it makes no difference. The work units do not appear in my task list and they immediately return bad results, so I have gone from a daily work unit quota of 50 down to 2. This makes troubleshooting very slow. I have tried re-setting with no success. I have tried detaching and re-attaching with no success. I have tried setting HTTP 1.1 to HTTP 1.0 with no success. The problem is affecting two computers so it does not appear to be machine specific. Both computers have processed work units successfully for the past few years. I have run out of ideas now. Does anyone know how I can get BOINC and SETI working again? Thanks, Simon.
...

Download this copy of seti_603.jpg (9068 bytes, MD5: 75AF6760157FDF8B2178971CB8F27851), shut down BOINC and put the file in your setiathome.berkeley.edu directory. Start BOINC, when the Scheduler tells it the file is needed it should note that the file is already present and skip the download.
                                                               Joe


You may also need to make the file "read-only" by right clicking and chosing properties then clicking the box.

I have encountered similar problems in the past when I was connected to the net over a 3G mobile data (UMTS) connection. Most mobile networks compress image files which has caused me problems before when downloading a new SETI executable file.
375) Message boards : Number crunching : Seti City..... (Message 801971)
Posted 25 Aug 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I like the ivory coloured (colored) CD/DVD drive in a black case ! It is the opposite of my Athlon XP system with a black DVD R/W drive in an ivory case.

Please send my regards to Mark.

http://seti-city.myminicity.com/ just clicked.
376) Message boards : Number crunching : AstroPulse errors - Reporting (Message 801956)
Posted 25 Aug 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
...

Update 4:
Halfway point?
112:43 hours running
41.730% progress complete
112:43 left to completion
We don't need to be a math major to know 42% in not half.
I will presume that the early crunching is more processor intensive.
I have noticed that the completion time is finally starting to drop 1 second for every 1 CPU second. Early on, the completion time would not budge for 10 CPU seconds, and sometimes actually go backwards.

Heck of a club we joined eh.
Dave


BoincLogX can give you a more accurate estimate.

There has been much discussion of this issue on the "Message boards : AstroPulse" forum at SETI Beta
377) Message boards : Number crunching : Welcome to the 9 Year Club (Message 801562)
Posted 24 Aug 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I also passed the "9 years with SETI" milestone yesterday.

I was working on a helpdesk at BT in Colindale, London NW9, and one of my co-workers had this interesting screen-saver running on his Windows 95 PC, I think it was a Compaq P200.

As we were in the second-line team, we were allowed to install software on our work PCs so I also installed SETI@home on my workstation, and then installed it at home too on my 486DX2 66, and later on my flatmate's PIII 450.

I soon added a P 233 MMX, which was crunching regularly until a few month ago.
378) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI @ Home calcs on a GPU (Message 801560)
Posted 24 Aug 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Does anyone know if there are any plans to utilize graphics card GPUs in addition to/instead of the CPU for SETI calculations? I have heard that the Folding @ Home app does this and it is much faster than the CPU. This is only obviously the case if you have a good GPU though.

James


I think this topic needs a sticky thread, as a new thread appears every few weeks or months about this.

I think that there are people working on this, but I don't think they have a sucessful product yet.

Try doing a search on keywords "GPU crunching" (without the quotes).

BTW, welcome to the forums, I see that you have been with SETI@home nearly 9 years before making your first post.

Keith.
379) Message boards : Number crunching : New version of Seti@home (Message 800761)
Posted 22 Aug 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I think that there is a typo on the Applications page:

SETI@home Enhanced
Platform	Current version	Installation time
Linux/x86	6.03	21 Aug 2008 22:10:45 UTC
Windows/x86	6.03	21 Aug 2008 22:10:45 UTC
Mac OS/X 10.3+	6.03	21 Aug 2008 22:10:45 UTC
[color=red]SPARC/Solaris	5.12	1 May 2006 22:43:19 UTC
Linux/x86_64	5.12	1 May 2006 22:43:19 UTC[/color]
SPARC/Solaris	5.12	1 May 2006 22:25:36 UTC
Mac OS X/Intel	6.03	21 Aug 2008 22:10:45 UTC
Linux/x86_64	6.03	21 Aug 2008 22:10:45 UTC
Astropulse
Platform	Current version	Installation time
Linux/x86	4.35	22 Jul 2008 23:31:21 UTC
Windows/x86	4.35	22 Jul 2008 23:31:21 UTC
Linux/x86_64	4.35	22 Jul 2008 23:31:21 UTC
380) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Prefrences (Message 796781)
Posted 12 Aug 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Would it be possible to allow you to set different sized caches for each project in preferences in a later released version of BOINC?


It is possible in the current version, using resource share. The default share for each project is 100 when you first attach. You can make this number larger or smaller as required.

e.g. I currently have resource shares as follows.

SETI Beta 100
SETI 50
lhcathome 33
rosetta@home 50
ralph@home 100
Leiden 20
Einstein 25
boincsimap 10
malariacontrol 50
orbit@home 100
Milkyway 50

You can also set projects to [No New Tasks] as required.
381) Message boards : Number crunching : Running tasks for a different project if Seti is down - question (Message 795777)
Posted 10 Aug 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Hi,

Is there a way to setup Boinc to only run tasks for "Project B" if "Project A" is unavailable or has no work available?

Basically I always want to primarily run Seti and when it is down/no work available I would like to use my otherwise idle cpus for something else.

When Seti is up and has work I do not wish to share with other projects however, but I would like to finish and upload any tasks I have pending.

Most likely I will have to manually achieve this?

Thanks.


Resource Share is there to help you acheive this. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/prefs.php?subset=project will take you to your Preferences. Make SETI a large number e.g. 1000 or 10000 and project B a small number e.g. 1 or 0.1

You should then only get work for project B when SETI has no work.

I you are going to use resouce share like this you need a second project with fairly small tasks. One to avoid in this scenario would be CPDN or Orbit. Most others should be OK given a reasonably modern CPU.
382) Message boards : Number crunching : Crunch3r's Site down? (Message 795770)
Posted 10 Aug 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
http://calbedw70de.h831144.serverkompetenz.net/mb/index.php

shutdown for maintenance
383) Message boards : Technical News : Ups and Downs (Aug 05 2008) (Message 795662)
Posted 10 Aug 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I have about 25 WU's waiting to be uploaded,when do you think this issue might be fixed?


Project servers and staff are in CA, USA. Their local TZ is UTC-7. I don't think tomorrow is a public holiday in CA, so I would think probably by around 18:00 UTC tomorrow work may start flowing again. Then you can expect a big flood as everyone else tries to upload, download, report tasks etc.

Things may be back to "normal" by around 01:00 UTC on 12th August.
384) Message boards : Technical News : Blips and Bursts (Aug 07 2008) (Message 795608)
Posted 10 Aug 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
If you can't get work from SETI, and need to keep your CPU hot, there are many other BOINC projects that need your help.

In BOINC Manager, click on [Tools], [Attach to project...], then [Next>].

You will find a list of ~ 20 other BOINC projects, with links to their WWW pages. When you find one that you find interesting, attach to that project and you will be back crunching numbers for science.

When SETI servers are back online, your work for SETI will get uploaded, reported, and hopefully credited.

You can also adjust resource shares, or add more than one other projects, if you wish.

Keith.
385) Message boards : Politics : The truth is out there ? (Message 795147)
Posted 9 Aug 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
As a sideline to the Search for ExtraTerestrial Intelligence, I like to search for other things too.

I have been reading many threads here even when not posting, and I am still trying to fill some gaps in my search for "the truth".

I have follwed many links and read a lot of what I found by following links off this site.

I don't have time for "flame wars", but I would like to know a little more of the history of things.

If anyone would like to help me in my search, please feel free to PM me.

Keith.
386) Message boards : Technical News : Working it Out (Jul 15 2008) (Message 784242)
Posted 19 Jul 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My perspective:

While it's true that Microsoft with DOS and Intel with their x86 processor line, along with IBM's "goof" of not protecting the original IBM PC architecture launched a computer revolution that is now dominate in the world today, it's that dominance now that has put both companies in positions where their might can prevent any chance of competition.

...


Interesting post, I agree with most of it, but it's a bit Off Topic for the original thread, and this forum.

Keith.
387) Message boards : Number crunching : Cricket graphs Banished ? (Message 782835)
Posted 15 Jul 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
What is happening at Berkeley ?

All these missing people, and now the Cricket graph pages are gone too !

http://fragment1.berkeley.edu/newcricket/grapher.cgi?target=%2Frouter-interfaces%2Finr-250%2Fgigabitethernet2_3;view=Octets;ranges=d


500 Internal Server Error

Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, michael@ack.berkeley.edu and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
388) Message boards : Number crunching : Seti City..... (Message 782832)
Posted 15 Jul 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Here is the URL for those that would like to click, as the OP of this thread is currently missing:

http://seti-city.myminicity.com

(edited)
389) Message boards : Number crunching : Using the wrong optimized application. (Message 782570)
Posted 14 Jul 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I did a client detach http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=3001110 yesterday to free a few ghost WU's from my account.

When I reinstalled the optimized app, I seem to have installed an old one as I am now over claiming credit.

Most recently used app. is here:


Optimized SETI@Home Enhanced application
Optimizers: Ben Herndon, Josef Segur, Alex Kan, Simon Zadra
Version: Windows SSE-P3/Athlon XP 32-bit based on S@H V5.15 'Noo? No - Ni!'
Revision: 2.2B|xK+GFX|FFT:IPP_SSE|Ben-Joe
CPUID: AMD Athlon XP 'Thoroughbred'
CPUs: 1, cores: 1, threads: 1 cache: L1=64K, L2=256K, L3=0K
Features: MMX, 3DNow!, 3DNow!+, SSE,
speed: 1799 MHz -- read MB/s: L1=9836, L2=4195, RAM=577


Previous app. can be seen in a pending task:

Optimized SETI@Home Enhanced application
Optimizers: Ben Herndon, Josef Segur, Alex Kan, Simon Zadra
Version: Windows SSE 32-bit based on S@H V5.15 'Noo? No - Ni!'
Revision: R-2.4V|xK|FFT:FFTW3_SSE|Ben-Joe
CPUID: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+
Speed: 1 x 1799 MHz
Cache: L1=64K L2=256K
Features: MMX SSE

Work Unit Info
WU Credit multi. is: 2.85


Can I easily switch from one optimized app to the other ?

[EDIT]
What is the most recent best optimized app for my CPU ?

Thanks, Keith.
390) Message boards : Number crunching : CLOSED** SETI/BOINC Milestones (tm) XIV **CLOSED (Message 782129)
Posted 13 Jul 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Finally made it to 100,000 Total BOINC somtime in the last few hours.

I'm not sure which project pushed me over the line.

:-) Keith.
391) Message boards : Number crunching : CLOSED** SETI/BOINC Milestones (tm) XIV **CLOSED (Message 774701)
Posted 28 Jun 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Thanks to a 308 hour AstroPulse task validating, I just had my best single day BOINC credit ever yesterday.

Also just passed 10,000 credits at Rosetta yesterday.

100,000 BOINC credits is in sight too.
392) Message boards : Number crunching : AR vs. Time / Credit (Message 770125)
Posted 18 Jun 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
These 2 WU's are fairly extreme examples for my PC of how credit is awarded for time crunched.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=282846406

CPU time 8013.6875
WU True angle range: 2.918728
Spikes Pulses Triplets Gaussians Flops
4 0 0 0 5205187318772
Claimed credit 17.1863233078505
Granted credit 17.1695764499974

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=281567664

CPU time 17350.140625
WU True angle range: 6.918970
Spikes Pulses Triplets Gaussians Flops
3 0 1 0 5019499290565
Claimed credit 16.5738107362965
Granted credit 16.5728356481481

On both tasks the wingman was using a Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Microsoft Windows Vista

Both wingmen were using different optimized apps.
CPU time 1302.265148
CPU time 1691.254
393) Message boards : Technical News : Bits (Jun 11 2008) (Message 767011)
Posted 12 Jun 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
The server time sync seems to be slightly out by > 1 minute.

My system clock has just been synchronised and I will post this message @ 19:55:00 UTC.

[EDIT]
The web server seems to be in sync now, but the download server and scheduler may be out of time sync.
[/EDIT]
394) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics outage (Message 763535)
Posted 6 Jun 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
...
Ping-Statistik für 206.132.254.42:
Pakete: Gesendet = 4, Empfangen = 0, Verloren = 4 (100% Verlust),



I'm faily sure that the problem many people are having is related to the Reverse DNS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_DNS_lookup). Whoever administers the site needs to get that fixed ASAP.

[EDIT]
Whois for kwsn.net indicates that Richard Steincross in Long Beach, CA 90807 is the Administrative Contact and Technical Contact for the domain.
[/EDIT]

My tracert:
Tracing route to lunatics.kwsn.net [206.132.254.42]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1  2445 ms   159 ms   159 ms  172.18.51.98
  2   156 ms   159 ms   159 ms  10.64.74.241
  3   158 ms   159 ms   159 ms  172.18.14.61
  4     *      257 ms   289 ms  149.254.195.194
  5   270 ms   289 ms   300 ms  10.126.168.94
  6   259 ms   310 ms   289 ms  193.159.226.21
  7   247 ms   279 ms   309 ms  194.25.6.181
  8   258 ms   309 ms   299 ms  62.156.138.54
  9   228 ms   278 ms   300 ms  ldn-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.251.18]
 10   218 ms   220 ms   219 ms  ash-bb1-link.telia.net [213.248.65.210]
 11   237 ms   239 ms   239 ms  atl-bb1-link.telia.net [213.248.80.142]
 12   238 ms   239 ms   240 ms  wbs-116420-atl-bb1.c.telia.net [213.248.90.106]

 13   238 ms   239 ms   239 ms  xconn.core2-edge1.atl.oneringnetworks.net [66.18
7.176.5]
 14   231 ms   259 ms   239 ms  xconn.dktc-56m.atl.oneringnetworks.net [66.187.1
78.58]
 15   222 ms   239 ms   240 ms  beat42.gzz.cyb.cream.spectacularrebeats.net [206
.132.254.42]

Trace complete.

C:\\Documents and Settings\\Keith.ATHLON>tracert 206.132.254.42

Tracing route to [color=red]beat42.gzz.cyb.cream.spectacularrebeats.net [206.132.254.42][/color]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1   156 ms   159 ms   159 ms  172.18.51.98
  2   151 ms   159 ms   159 ms  10.64.74.137
  3   152 ms   160 ms   159 ms  172.18.14.61
  4   151 ms   159 ms   158 ms  149.254.195.194
  5   150 ms   159 ms   159 ms  10.126.168.94
  6   152 ms   159 ms   159 ms  193.159.226.21
  7   151 ms   159 ms   159 ms  194.25.6.181
  8   152 ms   159 ms   159 ms  62.156.138.54
  9   152 ms   159 ms   159 ms  ldn-bb2-link.telia.net [80.91.250.238]
 10   211 ms   239 ms   219 ms  ash-bb1-link.telia.net [213.248.65.98]
 11   232 ms   239 ms   259 ms  atl-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.251.86]
 12   232 ms   239 ms   239 ms  wbs-116420-atl-bb1.c.telia.net [213.248.90.106]

 13   226 ms   239 ms   259 ms  xconn.core2-edge1.atl.oneringnetworks.net [66.18
7.176.5]
 14   241 ms   239 ms   219 ms  xconn.dktc-56m.atl.oneringnetworks.net [66.187.1
78.58]
 15   226 ms   239 ms   239 ms  beat42.gzz.cyb.cream.spectacularrebeats.net [206
.132.254.42]

Trace complete.
395) Message boards : Number crunching : Lunatics outage (Message 763513)
Posted 6 Jun 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Not sure if this is significant, but when I clicked on the link http://lunatics.kwsn.net, the page did not load. But when I pinged the site:

Pinging lunatics.kwsn.net [206.132.254.42] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 206.132.254.42: bytes=32 time=235ms TTL=50
Reply from 206.132.254.42: bytes=32 time=234ms TTL=50
Reply from 206.132.254.42: bytes=32 time=233ms TTL=50
Reply from 206.132.254.42: bytes=32 time=252ms TTL=50

Ping statistics for 206.132.254.42:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 233ms, Maximum = 252ms, Average = 238ms

I then tried Opera web browser again and the page loaded immediately.

My ISP is currently T-Mobile 3G in Essex, England.

I can post a tracert result if it is useful.

Keith.
396) Message boards : Technical News : Bumpy Ride (Jun 03 2008) (Message 763299)
Posted 5 Jun 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:

...
I know these questions don't apply here, so redirect me as needed. But ...
1) will seti continue with the 'standard' wu's in the foreseable future, or will we all have to convert to the AP app.
2) will the optimized application set be tossed out and our 'optimizers' will have to start from scratch
3) when will the chaos commence?


See Message boards : AstroPulse. The thread Astropulse FAQ might be a good place to start.

1). As far as I know, SETI@home will continue to process MultiBeam data alongside the new AstroPulse apps.

2). Optimized apps will still be usable on MultiBeam WU's. I have also heard rumours that there are likely to be Optimized AstroPulse apps eventually.

3). I hope that it won't be chaos.

If you want to know more, you are quite welcome to attach to SETI Beta where the AP 4.33 apps were just released yesterday.

n.b. No official Mac apps yet, but I know that some Mac testing is going on.

Keith.
[small edit]
397) Message boards : Technical News : Bumpy Ride (Jun 03 2008) (Message 763235)
Posted 5 Jun 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Good news. The science database problems were far less severe than we thought. Short story: we ran out of space. Long story: due to a slightly confusing configuration we thought we ran out of extents for reasons unclear. Informix categorizes all usable storage space into dbspaces, fragments, chunks, extents... maybe more things I'm not sure. We've had problems in the past where we ran out of extents long before running out of actual disk space and we thought this is what happened again. The solution for such is painful - basically like rebuilding a RAID system (unload everything, recreate, and reload). Luckily we discovered we had some fragments/chunks misaligned (some fragments had more chunks than others) so all we had to do was add more chunks, and we had plenty of disk space for that. We added enough to get by for now, and will do more when we catch up from the queue draining/filling....

- Matt


As AstroPulse is likely to be arriving on SETI main in the not too distant future, how is that likely to affect space considerations ?

Specifically AstroPulse WU's are around 8MB compared to 367kB for MultiBeam WU's, and run time is likely to be significantly longer, i.e. probably at least 25 times longer run times.
398) Message boards : Number crunching : Pending work / Average turnaround time (Message 759847)
Posted 28 May 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I have 2 wingmen waiting for me to complete SETI tasks atm. One of these is in progress about 25% done. My average crunching time is around 6 hours on SETI, but I have been doing a lot of AstroPulse recently. My expected time on AP 4.30 is 310 hours.
399) Message boards : Number crunching : IE7 cache problem? (Message 758255)
Posted 25 May 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I'll post this here initially as I'm not sure where else to put it. It can be moved somewhere else more suitable if need be.

When I post to a Seti forum my computer insists on downloading the whole thread again, I make the post, and it then downloads the whole thread a second time. To actually see the post, yes you've guessed it, it downlods it all a third time. Can take up to 1/4 hour to make one post.

I make this assumption due to constant "waiting for..." messages, and router lights looking like an xmas tree. Anyone any ideas.


Try changing some settings in http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/edit_forum_preferences_form.php:

Message display
What to display

Hide avatar images
Hide signatures
Show images as links


Check all 3 of these.

Also:

If a thread contains more than this number of posts
only display the first one and this many of the last ones.


Set these to something like 25 and 10.
400) Message boards : Number crunching : Removing a rootkit (Message 757427)
Posted 23 May 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I found this page, Task Manager Has Been Disabled By Your Administrator very useful recently when I got infected by a trojan.
401) Message boards : Technical News : Another Resync (May 20 2008) (Message 756363)
Posted 21 May 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Thanks for the update...Account page has been fixed already.


The "Projects in which you are participating" part of the page is still a bit broken. The column headings are lined up with the wrong column.
402) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Happend on Today`s Date? (Message 755030)
Posted 18 May 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
1980 Mount St. Helens
403) Message boards : Politics : Volunteering As A Mod? (Message 748684)
Posted 5 May 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I think that the best way of appointing new mods would be to have nominations from regular posters, and Admin.

Then Admin should hold a vote for a period of at least 2 weeks.

Admin might have a veto if they have a strong reason for a certain person not being a mod.

I think anyone who categorically did not want to stand could withdraw from the nominations.

If we are to get 3 new mods on the 1st July, they could have a list of 5 or 6 to choose from.

This idea needs some refinement, but I think that it is a plan.
404) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thank-You to our recently retired mods. (Message 747072)
Posted 2 May 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
This thread is to thank the retiring mods for their work over the years. If you want to discuss other things, the politics forum is there for you.

Everyone makes some mistakes. I think overall that they mostly did a good job.
405) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thank-You to our recently retired mods. (Message 747009)
Posted 2 May 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Who were recently retired?


I don't know, I don't think anyone's actually told us who


Look through the postings by anyone and you can see if they are a mod or not.

This is difficult to do for those who are currently banished, but I know of at least 3 ex-mods who were mods until yesterday.

PM me for more details if you like, I don't want to name individuals in case it is misconstrued.
406) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Thank-You to our recently retired mods. (Message 746937)
Posted 2 May 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
This is not a political statement, but a genuine thank-you to those that have recently retired.

I have had 1 or 2 disagreements with a few people, but I think, on balance, they have mostly done a good job.

I am relatively new to these forums, having had a complete break from SETI between 2004 until January 2007.

I have read some of the old threads from the years before I re-joined, and it looks like the forums were like the "wild west" for a while.

The job of moderator is a mostly thankless task. I hope they enjoy their break.
407) Message boards : Number crunching : Validate errors... again :( (Message 746498)
Posted 1 May 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:

The first result is now showing Validate error and mine is now pending.

On the Task details page, my task is Validate state: Checked, but no consensus yet.


It looks like the PC that did the WU has some issues - most of its results show validate errors. I'd wait and see what happens with the 3rd issue, and hopefully it will be sent to someone running the new software so its returned quicker for you ;)


Thanks. I did not notice that. I will send a PM to the owner of that PC as they have some sort of problem.
408) Message boards : Number crunching : Validate errors... again :( (Message 746487)
Posted 1 May 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I returned my my result on this WU, which already had one result returned and pending.

The first result is now showing Validate error and mine is now pending.

On the Task details page, my task is Validate state: Checked, but no consensus yet.
409) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Happend on Today`s Date? (Message 746257)
Posted 30 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
1993 CERN put the World Wide Web into the public domain.
410) Message boards : Number crunching : New App May 1? (Message 746149)
Posted 30 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
It's out. You can download it now.

It's out now

@ Honie: Thanks and I've made Your passive link active.


Thanks. Didn't know how to do it.

New App is up & running


There are 2 ways to make an active link.

[ url ] www.google.com [ /url ] http://www.google.com

or

[ url= setiathome.berkeley.edu ] Some Text [ /url ] Some Text

Take the spaces out. The example in the BBCode instuctions gives the more complex way but not the simple one.

Looking foreward to SSE version if it is possible.
411) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Happend on Today`s Date? (Message 745844)
Posted 29 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
1992 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Los_Angeles_riots
412) Message boards : Cafe SETI : ATTN. Beta Testers. Update project ASAP (Message 745654)
Posted 29 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
In case you do not regularly read the Number Crunching forum, SETI Beta appear to have cancelled ALL Enhanced Workunits. This means if you crunch Beta, you need to update that project as soon as possible to avoid crunching work that will not get any credit.

See this thread for more details.

Keith
413) Message boards : Number crunching : ATTN. Beta Testers. All enhanced WU's cancelled. (Message 745647)
Posted 28 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I've also just got an Astropulse WU at last. But estimated time to completion on an Athlon XP 2200+ is 521 Hours!
414) Message boards : Number crunching : ATTN. Beta Testers. All enhanced WU's cancelled. (Message 745583)
Posted 28 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I've just updated SETI Beta and the project appear to have cancelled ALL WU's.

It certainly cancelled all Enhanced WU's, even those that have not reached quorum.

If you have any Beta WU's currently running, I suggest that you update the project as soon as possible to save on wasted crunching time.

Keith
415) Message boards : Number crunching : Farm auction has closed...and the winner is..................... (Message 744539)
Posted 26 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:

It only took me 15 months to get to 50,000 SETI credits.
416) Message boards : Number crunching : Farm auction has closed...and the winner is..................... (Message 744502)
Posted 26 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I think some members of BOINC Synergy are not happy that their team did not win.
417) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Happend on Today`s Date? (Message 744408)
Posted 26 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
1986 Chernobyl disaster
418) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Happend on Today`s Date? (Message 744407)
Posted 26 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
25 April 1953. Structure of DNA published in Nature.
419) Message boards : Number crunching : Sloth is the new speed (Message 743890)
Posted 25 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
The OP asked about machines that are regularly running.

I don't beat Joe, but My P233 MMX has just returned it's latest WU.

Total Credit 3,024
Recent average credit 12.71

Created 13 Apr 2008 22:34:56 UTC
Sent 15 Apr 2008 22:00:57 UTC
Received 25 Apr 2008 9:11:19 UTC

Report deadline 3 May 2008 11:17:30 UTC

Optimized SETI@Home Enhanced application

Optimizers: Ben Herndon, Josef Segur, Alex Kan, Simon Zadra
Version: Windows MMX 32-bit based on seti V5.15 'Ni!'
Rev: (R-2.4|PX|FFT:IPP_MMX|Ben-Joe)
CPUID: 'Intel P1m Pentium-MMX (P55C)'
cpus: 1 cores: 1 threads: 1 cache: L1=16K L2=0K L3=0K
features: mmx
speed: 234 MHz -- read megs/sec: L1=632, L2=0, RAM=216

Work Unit Info
True angle range: 0.182024
Restarted at 7.64 percent.
Restarted at 12.09 percent.
Restarted at 15.57 percent.
Restarted at 19.78 percent.
Restarted at 24.89 percent.
Restarted at 28.43 percent.
Restarted at 32.36 percent.
Restarted at 36.38 percent.
Restarted at 41.28 percent.
Restarted at 47.59 percent.
Restarted at 51.18 percent.
Restarted at 53.09 percent.
Restarted at 59.52 percent.
Restarted at 65.42 percent.
Restarted at 70.66 percent.
Restarted at 75.82 percent.
Restarted at 80.94 percent.
Restarted at 85.04 percent.
Restarted at 90.13 percent.
Restarted at 94.29 percent.
Restarted at 99.08 percent.

Spikes Pulses Triplets Gaussians Flops
1 3 0 0 27664532142064

</stderr_txt>
]]>
Validate state Valid
Claimed credit 91.2709682926869
Granted credit 91.2443672080532
420) Message boards : Politics : What is the setimods mailing address please? (Message 743715)
Posted 24 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
The address is shown on the left of the composition box every time you make a posting. (7th paragraph down).
421) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Happend on Today`s Date? (Message 743493)
Posted 24 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Here is a good one:

1990 Hubble telescope launched
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble_Space_Telescope
422) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Domestic bliss (Closed) (Message 742711)
Posted 22 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Something by Johnny Cash or Billy Joel.
423) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Happend on Today`s Date? (Message 741388)
Posted 19 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
1993 Waco cult siege ends with inferno
1995 Oklahoma bombing
424) Message boards : Number crunching : multi-machine BOINC monitor for Mac? (Message 741383)
Posted 19 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I just use VNC to check in on other machines, regardless of their OS.


I use VNC too, and BOINC Manager's remote admin features, but the nice thing about BoincView is that it handles multiple hosts on one screen.
425) Message boards : Science (non-SETI) : The 'new' orbit@home (Message 741370)
Posted 19 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
They now have work. http://orbit.psi.edu/oah/server_status.php Just got my first WU.
426) Message boards : Number crunching : multi-machine BOINC monitor for Mac? (Message 740866)
Posted 18 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
If you have at least 1 Windows system, you could run BoincView on that 1 and it should monitor all the other BOINC clients.

I also run BoincView and the author has not posted on his website for almost a year.

http://www.boinc-wiki.info/index.php?title=BoincView
http://boincview.amanheis.de/
427) Message boards : Number crunching : CLOSED***SETI/BOINC Milestones [tm] XIII***CLOSED (Message 740414)
Posted 17 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Just passed 50,000 total SETI credit.

Running SETI at 33 - 50 % Resource share on 2 PC's
428) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (7) Server Problems! Closed for Renovation (Message 739784)
Posted 16 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Last years Thumper outage lasted about 12-14 days including catchup time.

It started on 1st May 2007 and ended around 12 May 2007.

That was an exceptional outage. The most recent one was ~ 42 hours i.e. less than 2 days.

BOINC is designed to cope with whole project outages. OK some of you want to run SETI only. That is your choice. I have SETI as my highest resourece share, but I also manage to run 8 other projects (including SETI Beta), it should be 9 but I just joined orbit@home and they don't currently have any WU's.

I run a 2.5 to 3 day cache across all projects which usually gives me about 2 - 5 SETI WU's in reserve. Recent SETI WU crunch times have varied between 2 to 6.5 hours. It works for me.

If you are running SETI only, I don't see any good reason to go beyond 5 days cache, 3 days should be enough to cover most normal outages.

Even if you got a whole bunch of -9 overflows, you would be very unlucky to get more than 10 in a row.

I think some people run the big caches because they see that option and just "go for the biggest". If the sofware allowed it they would probably cache 21 or 30 days worth of WU's!

Just my thoughts, btw this thread seems to have gone a bit off topic.
429) Message boards : Technical News : Moribund Monday (Apr 14 2008) (Message 739385)
Posted 15 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
It seems to have been a while since the last post, and I'm still having difficulty getting WUs. I was hoping that someone could post regarding their own situation, or on the success/failure/delay of the necessary upgrades/repairs. I just want to see if others are having any success, or if it's still a problem on my end. I know you guys are working hard so thank you all for allowing us to participate in SETI.

-Eric AKA Cholupa


This page will tell you when the WU's start flowing again.

As you can see from the graph there have been no WU's out for more than 24 hours.

When the servers come back online, I expect there will be very heavy traffic for several hours, so if you run out of SETI work you may need a backup project at a small resource share.

I ran out of SETI work last night (have 2 WU's stuck downloading) but my main PC still has work for 6 other projects.

[edit]Other BOINC projects[/edit]
430) Message boards : Number crunching : What's The Time At Your Place? (Message 739317)
Posted 15 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
The Cricket Graph page has the Berkeley local time at the top of the page.

This site http://nist.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Pacific/d/-8/java also gives you the local time in Berkeley. Or http://nist.time.gov/ for the time anywhere else in the USA, and various other Pacific and and Atlantic islands as well.

Local time in UK now is 10:49 am (UTC+1)
431) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (7) Server Problems! Closed for Renovation (Message 739009)
Posted 14 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Front Page News

April 14, 2008
We continue to have workunit storage server problems but hope to have the machine replaced today (but may not have it on line until tomorrow). Until this new system is in place workunit downloads will be disabled.


Good thing I have plenty of WU's on my other projects, as I am down to my last WU on SETI and SETI Beta.

I'm still hoping to reach 50k for SETI before the end of the month!
432) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Possible forum bug (Message 738914)
Posted 14 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I say blame Misfit. His friends list is using up all the available electrons :-)
433) Message boards : Cafe SETI : SAY A PRAYER FOR BLURF (Message 738910)
Posted 14 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Get Well Soon.
434) Message boards : Cafe SETI : What Happend on Today`s Date? (Message 738909)
Posted 14 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
On April 14 1912, RMS Titanic struck an iceberg.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Titanic
435) Message boards : Technical News : Working Wednesday (Apr 09 2008) (Message 736924)
Posted 10 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
On the song title theme, the UK site http://www.everyhit.com has at least one song title listed for every day of the week.

Monday 13
Tuesday 5
Wednesday 1
Thursday 1
Friday 12
Saturday 25
Sunday 21

The USA site http://www.allbutforgottenoldies.net could not come up with any results for Thursday.
436) Message boards : Number crunching : STOP LOOKING - ET IS IN MY NOTEBOOK! (Message 736879)
Posted 10 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I'm just a simple single m/c single user helping to process seti@home data via BOINC - and have been doing that for a few years now!

I'm now running Vista on my Toshiba laptop - and recently started getting the message that I was using the wrong url and I should consider detaching and reattaching to setiathome.berkley .... etc. (can't remember the rest as have lost the particular messages, derr)! So I waited till I had no work and nothing downloading and proceeded to try ..... oh dear, now I'm in a mess!

I went up to seti and downloaded from there thinking it would solve my problem - but no, I ended up with two attachments to the same task ......... and now after aborting and detaching one of them I'm getting the message :-

(error)Can't create HTTP response output file projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/setiathome_5.27_windows

It then continues with other error messages that I don't understand - HELP!?!

Should I clear the whole lot out and start again (I actually did that tonight but it didn't help me):)

From a despairing seti fan, buck.r



Don't Panic too much, there are currently some download server problems. See this graph for more information.

When the graph goes green again you should start seeing downloads. The graph also show the local time in Berkeley, California where the SETI project is based. The staff mostly keep office hours, so I hope to see some improvement in a few hours.

BOINC has been reported to also have a few issues with Windows Vista. I don't use Vista myself, but there have been various work-arounds reported that seem to get over most of the problems. Look for threads with Vista in the title for more help.
437) Message boards : Number crunching : What's up with LHC@home? (Message 736792)
Posted 10 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I personally suspect that the line "restraining defendants from operating the LHC or further preparing the LHC for operation for four months" is the reason behind the extended "Down for Maintenance" status of the @home project.


I still don't think this is the reason.

The LHC@home website is still down but the BOINC project is still sending out work.

10/04/2008 10:24:24|lhcathome|Finished download of w2_lhc270_8__47__s__64.31_59.32__8_10__5__75_1_sixvf_boinc72801.zip

My PC is currently running another LHC task from yesterday.

10/04/2008 10:14:41|lhcathome|Restarting task wm7z_m7z__39__64.28_59.31__16_18__6__75_1_sixvf_boinc335524_0 using sixtrack version 467

The main LHC website and the CERN public LHC site are still up.

I think it is just a problem with the LHC@home BOINC project website.

They have also not updated any stats on sites like BOINCstats since 31 March.
438) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (7) Server Problems! Closed for Renovation (Message 736463)
Posted 9 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Yeah I'm seeing the stats both local to Seti and not so local not updating, I think something is broken again. :(


See Latest Tech News. Matt has explained the reason for the longer than usual outage yesterday, and there may be another one today. He also explained the reason that the validators are currently offline.

Stuff always seem to happen when I get close to a milestone, hoping to reach 50,000 SETI credits this month.
439) Message boards : Number crunching : What's up with LHC@home? (Message 736413)
Posted 9 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I think the project project is down due to the law suite filed against them ...


I don't think so. It is only the BOINC project LHC@home website which is down.

The main CERN LHC site is up here http://lhc.web.cern.ch/lhc/
440) Message boards : Number crunching : What's up with LHC@home? (Message 736411)
Posted 9 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I emailed Neasan 2 days ago, not had a reply yet.

I just received 2 1,000,000 turn WU's this morning so the project is still sending out work.

Is any other BOINC project running and sending out work without a working website?
441) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (7) Server Problems! Closed for Renovation (Message 736208)
Posted 8 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
08/04/2008 16:27:45|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 624 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
08/04/2008 16:27:50|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
08/04/2008 16:27:50|SETI@home|[sched_ops_debug] Server version 601
08/04/2008 16:27:50|SETI@home|Project requested delay of 11.000000 seconds
08/04/2008 16:27:50|SETI@home|[sched_op_debug] Deferring communication for 4 min 5 sec
08/04/2008 16:27:50|SETI@home|[sched_op_debug] Reason: no work from project
442) Message boards : Number crunching : What's up with LHC@home? (Message 735718)
Posted 7 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
These pages from QMUL and GridPP give some contact details for the people running the project:

http://www.qmul.ac.uk/news/newsrelease.php?news_id=742
http://www.ph.qmul.ac.uk/person.php?initials=N&surname=O%Neill&header=no
http://www.ph.qmul.ac.uk/person.php?initials=R.A&surname=Owen&header=no

I have not contacted any of them yet, but if the site is not back today, I may do so.
443) Message boards : Number crunching : Time to retire old BOINC clients ? (Message 734897)
Posted 5 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Some of them can be 'set and forget' users...

Do you want 'eliminate' volunteers?

The underclaiming issue affect to all of us, but, it is a meaningless question (I think...)


The host that I quoted (one of my wingmen) was created 1 Feb 2008 7:43:27 UTC. Just over 2 months ago.

I don't propose that Admin should just cut off all the remaining old clients tomorrow. Set a future date e.g. 1 June or 1 July to give their owners time to switch.

5.10.45 was released on 5 March 2008, 1 month ago. Maybe make the cut-off date early September, that would be 6 months after the release date.

I think we should be discussing when to phase out old clients, not if.
444) Message boards : Number crunching : Time to retire old BOINC clients ? (Message 734881)
Posted 5 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Has the time finally arrived to retire old under-claiming BOINC clients?

As far as I know these were kept because of compatibility issues with certain proxies.

BOINC version 5.10.45 is supposed to get around those problems. BOINC 5 versions Change Log

I know this has been discussed before, but in the past we were told that those old versions were still needed by a few people because later ones did not work with some proxies.

Has the time arrived yet for the staff to consider a cut-off date to enforce a minimum flop-counting version?

The old 4.xx versions now represent a very small percentage. List of recently connected client types. Most of those still in use seem to be Anonymous like this one http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4188503.
445) Message boards : Number crunching : In 1993, what would distributed computing projects be like? (Message 733680)
Posted 2 Apr 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
...SETI would have taken days for a WU


It did in 1999 on a 486 DX 2-66 (Windows 95).

I did 409 SETI classic WU's over nearly 5 years. I can't remember how many of those were on my first PC, but I think it was at least 100. The rest were on a P233 MMX which is still crunching today!

BTW the P233 still takes days to do a SETI enhanced WU.
446) Message boards : Number crunching : SIMAP has new work. (Message 732957)
Posted 31 Mar 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Anyone who runs (or wants to run) SIMAP may like to know that they are sending work again.

Keith.
447) Message boards : Number crunching : Orphaned Work Units (Message 731008)
Posted 27 Mar 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
The only reliable way to clear these up at present is to do a client detach. WARNING. This will wipe out all WU's currently on your system.

The best way to do this is to finish any currently crunching tasks. You can also set No new tasks if you like, and finish off those already cached.

If you want to back up your local stats file before doing this, make a copy of the file statistics_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml from you BOINC folder, so that you can copy it back later.

When you are ready, selet the SETI@home project and chose Detach.

After the detach has been done, check you stats page on the website, then Re-Attach and allow new tasks

You will also need to re-install any optimized application (make sure you get the correct one for your processor).
448) Message boards : Number crunching : loosing finished wu in index (Message 730066)
Posted 24 Mar 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Alright, thx ^^ its only surprising because they were random wu´s from these days and not the wu´s like from the previouse months ,if i compare it with other users.


The WU's that have been completed by both crunchers and granted credit will be purged from the database about 24 hours after the 2nd result is returned.

The ones that stay around have only been returned by one cruncher.

There are some exceptions to this, but the usual quorum is 2 valid results returned.
449) Message boards : Number crunching : Long Work Units (Message 730063)
Posted 24 Mar 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
99.9% of the work units on my computer take just over 4 hours. Once in a while I get strange work units that take many times longer. If I stop Boinc Manager and restart, the work unit will often finish, sometimes not. Other times things will not make sense, like after 10 hours a work unit is 10% complete with only 16 hours left. You do the math, it just doesn't work out. I check my CPU status, and my computer isn't working on anything else. I basically use my computer for email, so it's not like it's busy trying to solve the answer to world peace now and then. What it going on?


Different WU's have different Angle Ranges.

http://www.boinc-wiki.info/True_Angle_Range
http://www.boinc-wiki.info/SETI%40Home_FAQ:_The_SETI%40Home_Project#Why_is_there_so_much_variability_in_work_unit_completion_time_with_version_3.x.3F
450) Message boards : Politics : My Lai 16 March 1968, Halabja 16 March 1988 (Message 726790)
Posted 16 Mar 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
2 anniversaries of horrific acts both occur today.

40th http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai

20th http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack
451) Message boards : Cafe SETI : How old are you? (Message 725539)
Posted 13 Mar 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I was born the same year as Madonna, Michael Jackson, & Prince. I am a few months younger than all 3 as my birthday is not until December.
452) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Your favorite InterNET BROWSER ? (Message 725531)
Posted 13 Mar 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Another vote for here.

I also use IE occasionally, and have used Firefox a few times too.
453) Message boards : Number crunching : CLOSED***SETI/BOINC Milestones [tm] XIII***CLOSED (Message 725474)
Posted 13 Mar 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Did anyone else notice that Eric Korpela Passed 1,000,000 SETI Credits yesterday?
454) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC 5.10.45 new Recommended version (Message 725341)
Posted 13 Mar 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
What arte the advantages over BOINC 5.10.30.

I am running 5.10.30 on a couple of rigs with 32 bit XP Pro and Crunche3's 2.4V optimised SETI client


I don't know of any major improvements for XP users.

The big change is the proxy support which may allow users of old underclaiming versions to finally stop using them.
455) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation Error - Bad Workunit Header (Message 725064)
Posted 12 Mar 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
...
Is there any record for the number of attempts to complete a bad unit?



They stop getting sent after 6 Errors. "Too many error results". I thought it was 5, but that is the max allowed number of errors, it has to get to 6 before the scheduler stops sending them.
456) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC 5.10.45 new Recommended version (Message 724674)
Posted 11 Mar 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
BOINC 5 versions Change Log

This release is supposed to work with all proxies, so it could be an end to the underclaimng old versions.

It also has fixes for Windows Vista.
457) Message boards : Number crunching : "Task was reported too late to validate" ? (Message 724607)
Posted 11 Mar 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I have just been checking some WU's and noticed a difference in report deadlines between bonic and seti of one hour. Host are running GMT. Have I got a setting wrong somewhere.


Do the tasks have deadlines after 30 March 2008 01:00 UTC? British and European clocks change to Summer Time (DST).
458) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation Error - Bad Workunit Header (Message 724604)
Posted 11 Mar 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I thought that bad WU's got cancelled after 5 errors, but I've just checked my only one of these and it has now reached 5 errors with a new Unsent generated. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=234337343

The one that has been sent was sent before the last one that reported in. This would be normal operation, because before that BOINC would be trying to get two units to form quorum.
It should now mark the unsent unit as not needed.


3 seconds after the 5th Compute error was reported 11 Mar 2008 9:11:53 UTC another task was Created 11 Mar 2008 9:11:56 UTC

That task has not been sent yet, but I thought the 5 error rule should not have created it at all.
459) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation Error - Bad Workunit Header (Message 724584)
Posted 11 Mar 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I thought that bad WU's got cancelled after 5 errors, but I've just checked my only one of these and it has now reached 5 errors with a new Unsent generated. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=234337343
460) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation Error - Bad Workunit Header (Message 724402)
Posted 11 Mar 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
OK, here's the sitch.

I have just picked a task from 13fe08ad.

So far I have no reason to suspect it other than it is from the same day as the last batch of failed test data.

Anybody else have some from this set to comment on yet?

Alinator


It should be OK. Both Eric and Matt have indicated that it was a bad splitter, not bad "tape".

The Server status page shows that 13fe08ad and 13fe08ae are currently being split, and that one splitter mb_splitter5 is currently disabled.
461) Message boards : Number crunching : Free VNC solutions... (Message 722335)
Posted 5 Mar 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I use RealVNC and WinVNC on my Windows only (XP and 98) network.

Just did a few searches and these look like useful links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_remote_desktop_software
http://gentoo-wiki.com/VNC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VNC
462) Message boards : Technical News : Tuesday Wrapup (Mar 04 2008) (Message 722301)
Posted 5 Mar 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
What was the reason for the massive spike

that showed up on the Packets

but not on the Bits?
463) Message boards : Number crunching : Y does some tasks RESTART all by itself? (Message 722274)
Posted 5 Mar 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
can anyone pls temme Y some tasks RESTART all by itself?
not all tasks but some.

some of my tasks have restarted 5 to 8 times....

let let me know the reason for it...y


You are running MS Windows Vista. The current versions of BOINC and Vista do not get on well in the default configuration.

There are work-arounds that can fix most of these problems. The main ones seem to be:

Do not install BOINC in "Program Files"
Shut down BOINC manually BEFORE closing Vista.


I have only used Vista on a friends computer, I don't plan to run it on any of my machines until it is stable, probably when SP2 comes out.
464) Message boards : Number crunching : CLOSED** SETI/BOINC Milestones [tm] XII ** CLOSED (Message 721865)
Posted 4 Mar 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
500 Message Board posts !

Also recently passed 75,000 Total BOINC.
465) Message boards : Number crunching : Need an Explanation on the Variation of Credits Issued (Message 721864)
Posted 4 Mar 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I recently had a whole string of jobs with similar CPU times that resulted in a claimed credit of 16.52 for each. That is all except one. That one also showed 16.52 for a claimed credit when it was completed, but after another user completed the same job, he said it was only worth 7.22 credits, which is what I was finally awarded.

I understand why the lower score has to be used to avoid users manipulating the system. I can also understand why mine might have been in error if I had only used 45% of the CPU time of the other 16.52 credit jobs, and I still claimed 16.52. What I don't understand, is how another user can come up with such a different value when my CPU time was consistent with the other jobs of 16.52 credits.

What am I missing?

I suspect this must have come up before but a search of this forum did not find it. If I just didn't use the right search terms and it is there, I apologize.


I think you mean this WU http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=230782524. Looking at the details of the other computer, I can see that they are still using BOINC version 4.45 which is outdated.

stderr out <core_client_version>4.45</core_client_version>
<stderr_txt>
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: core_version
Skipping: 445
Skipping: /core_version
Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: core_version
Skipping: 445
Skipping: /core_version
setiathome_enhanced 5.27 DevC++/MinGW


Unfortunately there are still a few of these old BOINC clients around. The latest Development versions of BOINC appear to have fixed the problem with some proxies that was causing their users to hang on to them. BOINC versions Change Log has more details about this.

I hope that once that release of BOINC becomes official, the last of these underclaiming old versions can be retired.
466) Message boards : Number crunching : Where oh where did the slow processor software go (Message 720890)
Posted 2 Mar 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/apps.php used to list all the official apps and their release dates, but the page seems to be broken.
467) Message boards : Number crunching : Is SSE4.1 actually going to make a difference? (Message 720338)
Posted 1 Mar 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I'm with msattler - the Q6600 seems to give good value for $, great overclocking on air, and reliable enough. If the SSE4.1 application really makes a difference, then you have still got a great Q6600 that you can use elsewhere, sell, give to me etc and then get the Q9450 :)

Personally I wanted the PC's for other things, so the Q6600's are great, and they run well here (undervolted) and achieve 3gig without any problems. Not the fastest PC's crunching, but they do good enough for now, and they work with todays code really well, but whos to say the future code for them wont get a big boost as well.



I can only agree with Mark and David.

Q6600, gives good performance, good OC capability and is relatively cheap.

What are reasonable pricesin the U.S., for Q6600, Q9450, Q9550 and Q9775 ?
It seemes, in Europe, prices are quite higher.

Hmmm....gotta verify, but I think Newegg ships internationally.......checking....checking.....

Sorry, I was wrong......only US and PR......
Checking Tiger......

Ahh.....there ya go.....Tiger Direct......
International Shipping.........don't know if that will help you or not, but it may give you another option.......


I think in most countries you are likely to pay import duties or taxes, and the shipping cost is higher, and you have to pay foreign exchange charges, and you will probably not have a warranty...

So I would say beware buying internationally unless the price diference is realy significant. (Just my opinion.)
468) Message boards : Number crunching : 2008 data being split (Message 719842)
Posted 29 Feb 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Is the year number characterised by the xxxx06xx, etc etc of the tape name? Or am I missing something? Sorry for the stupid question, never thought we were getting "old" work (esp not from '06), but as the poster above said.. work is work :)

Crunch on!


The first block in the file name represents the recording date and session e.g 24ja07ab is from the second recording done on 24 January 2007, 05dc06ad is from the fourth session on 05 December 2006.

There used to be a way of decoding the rest of the file name before multi-beam, but I don't know if one exists now?
469) Message boards : Number crunching : Why am I a volunteer tester? (Message 717820)
Posted 24 Feb 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
This has happened in reverse on SETI Beta a few times where people have not got their Volunteer tester tags when they did participate in Beta.

See http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/forum_thread.php?id=296 and http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/forum_thread.php?id=1073 for some examples of this.
470) Message boards : Politics : Fidel Castro steps down as Cuban leader (Message 715324)
Posted 19 Feb 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Title says it all, Fidel Castro steps down as Cuban leader after 49 years. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7252109.stm.
471) Message boards : Number crunching : Validate Errors II (Message 715320)
Posted 19 Feb 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Take a look at http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=4171143&offset=20. That host has more than 20 Validate Errors over the last few days.
472) Message boards : Number crunching : Did everyone go on Vacation? (Message 712285)
Posted 14 Feb 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I think the number of WU's lost in transit recently is probably up too. A bunch of mine just timed out yesterday. They were all sent at the same time but never arrived on my PC. I suspect that many others have probably had the same problem.

All my missing WU's were 9 day deadline ones but many others may have been lost in transit with longer deadlines :-(
473) Message boards : Number crunching : useing seti on the ps3 (Message 711283)
Posted 11 Feb 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
See Eric Korpela's posting in the new Help Wanted forum
474) Message boards : Number crunching : I usually don't do this, but.. my work isn't uploading (Message 711226)
Posted 11 Feb 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Dr. C.E.T.I. wrote:
Keith T. wrote:
If this happens again, and for anyone else with the same problem.

On Windows XP you can try doing an ipconfig /flushdns. Just click on <Start> then <Run...> and type ipconfig /flushdns or you can do it from a command prompt as well.



. . . shouldn't you add ipconfig/registerdns afterwards ?



As far as I know, for a home user, ipconfig/registerdns is not necessary. For some LAN setups it may be needed.
475) Message boards : Number crunching : I usually don't do this, but.. my work isn't uploading (Message 711210)
Posted 11 Feb 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
If this happens again, and for anyone else with the same problem.

On Windows XP you can try doing an ipconfig /flushdns. Just click on <Start> then <Run...> and type ipconfig /flushdns or you can do it from a command prompt as well.

476) Message boards : Number crunching : Its incredible how far Intel has progressed.... (Message 708425)
Posted 5 Feb 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Hmm... so i guess the absolute minimum of the processors we can use for SAH would be a 386DX/SX? Or has anyone tried a 286 or even an 8080?

Someone should give THAT a shot.. just to see how many WEEKS/MONTHS it would take to complete a WU... oh wait.. has someone already tried that?


See the old thread about the "powerful P60" http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=39157. I think that it was proved that an old P60 could just manage to meet most deadlines if running 24/7. A P90 or P100 should still be capable of meeting all deadlines.

I know there are a few P200s out there. 233 MMX is slow enough for me! I do have an old Toshiba 110CS Laptop that rarely gets switched on, it only has 16MB RAM, 800MB HDD, so not enough for SETI. Are there any BOINC projects that will run in 16MB RAM?
477) Message boards : Number crunching : Its incredible how far Intel has progressed.... (Message 708081)
Posted 4 Feb 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Check out http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=211088764. Mine is the Pentium 233 MMX http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3066425

621,423.00 seconds. Intel P233 MMX
13,580.12 seconds. Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.40GHz [Family 15 Model 6 Stepping 5]
478) Message boards : Number crunching : classic seti (Message 707717)
Posted 3 Feb 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
when setiathome changed to boinc we never recieved our old credits ...have been on since the 90's and were in the 88% of units processed in the classic mode.where are we now? I wish I could find my rating and add my classic units.If any one can help it would be greatly appreciated.
We have been Faithfull Seti processors since the begining. We actually joined in '98 I believe. On our original web page we had the original setiathome logo. Will place it on our new site www.laserdog.com. Let's find those little green men!!
LASERDOG


If you remember your original sign-up date, you can look here http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/classpages/. SETI@home opened to the public in April 1999. The index on that site is not complete, I think the first 2 years or so have links that work.

Some other parts of the old site are still there too at http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/index.html. Beware that many of the old links are now broken, but some do still work.
479) Message boards : Number crunching : 有没有中国人啊! (Message 704418)
Posted 26 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
有没有中国人啊!是中国人都用汉语!


Most people here post in English. For Chinese SETI or BOINC information try http://boinc.equn.com/
480) Message boards : Number crunching : A cruncher is out for the season (Message 704414)
Posted 26 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I used to be a First Aider a few years ago. I remember that a lot of people got Tibia and Fibula mixed up, so much that they are commonly called Tib & Fib.

For more info check http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/40024958/ or http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/biology/humananatomy/skeletal/leg/leg2.html or search on Google, Yahoo, etc.
481) Message boards : Number crunching : Through the 60 Mbits/sec barrier ? (Message 703628)
Posted 24 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Well done on passing 10,000,000 BOINC credits Mark. I should think when you add your Pending to your current SETI total that you have already cruncehd 10,000,000 for SETI, just waiting for wingmen for Validation !!
482) Message boards : Number crunching : Through the 60 Mbits/sec barrier ? (Message 703620)
Posted 24 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Current Cricket Graph seems to be showing a throughput slightly over 60 Mbits/sec.

SETI's new router is not online yet http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=44910 and http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=44931, but Matt seems to have already managed to tweak a little bit extra out of the old one.

Thanks to Bill Woodcock from Hurricane Electric and to Matt for the new router.
483) Message boards : Number crunching : mobile crunching (Message 703250)
Posted 23 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
GrandMasterD wrote:
hi again, first of all allow me to say sorry for no paragraphs as this is being written from a phone. Basickly i'm lying in bed browsing the web on my n95 & was wondering if i could put boinc on my phone. I understand that it won't be as simple as popping over to the boinc site & downloading a prog. What i did see was that there is a linux prog. Does anyone know if it is possible to put linux on a phone & then put boinc onto that? I know the phones battery would die very quick but if boinc was only run when it was plugged in... Just a thought due to phones having chips in them that are as powerful as old pc's. Even if it's not really a great way to crunch S@H would be nice to try & see what happens. Cheers in advance, gmd


I also own a Nokia N95, it is certainly a powerful phone, but it already has battery life issues. I noticed yesterday that there are now 1400 mAh and 2200 mAh batteries available. (PM me if you need a link to the sites that have these for sale).

I already use my N95 as a Sat Nav, for Web Browsing, email, Video Camera, and most of the other functions. If there were a Symbian BOINC client and SETI app, I would probably run it too when then phone is plugged into external power.

I don't think this will happen soon, but it is a nice idea !

[edit posted from my N95]
The browser can do paragraphs. For those that have not yet seen this phone, it also has FM radio, MP3 player, you can watch TV via the T-Mobile website app.

The phone is now available for the USA & Canada too.
484) Message boards : Number crunching : CLOSED** SETI/BOINC Milestones [tm] XII ** CLOSED (Message 703246)
Posted 23 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
msattler wrote:
Phased quaddy has reached over 2 million credits..........


I see that you are getting very close to 10,000,000 total BOINC.

My little milestone for today is 0 pending credit !!!

[EDIT]
I also got my first Einstein credit granted today. Hope to get SETI RAC back above 100 today too. Keith
485) Message boards : Number crunching : Missing host (actually the old stats are missing after re-attaching) (Message 702884)
Posted 22 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Martin P. wrote:
One of my computers - or better: the statistics - is missing from the hosts stats. I have 2 almost identical PowerMacs G5, one with dual 2.5GHz and one with Dual 2.7GHz processors. The Dual 2.5GHz machine (3378715) is my office computer and it sometimes happens that it unattaches from SETI@Home. No idea why it does that. It's credit is missing from the host stats. I got both Macs in 2005 and they used to have approximately the same amount of credit.

It is also possible, that some of the credit is wrongly assigned to my other computer, since the total user credit appears plausible.

How can this happen and can anything be done to regain my credit?


Have you lost your local stats within BOINC Manager? This will happen if you detach then re-attach. There is nothing that you can do to get the local file back once it has gone, it gets added to every day by default up to a usual max of 30 days stats.

Stats sites like BOINCstats and all the other ones should show your last 60 days stats, here are your stats for the host that you mentioned http://boincstats.com/stats/host_graph.php?pr=sah&id=3378715.

[EDIT]
I see that BOINCstats now only shows 30 days stats for most data, I think it used to be 60 but ICBW. Keith
486) Message boards : Number crunching : What happened here ? (Message 701858)
Posted 20 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Here is another WU for the what happened here curious.

I just spotted this one in the task list for one of my "wingmen".

I'm not sure why the Redundant result, Cancelled by server happened on a WU that has not reached quorum yet?
487) Message boards : Number crunching : Vista SP1 (Message 700484)
Posted 16 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9590_22-6225945.html

I hope this is not off topic for number crunching. If so please move it to Windows forum or whereerver is more appropriate.
488) Message boards : Number crunching : What happened here ? (Message 700019)
Posted 14 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
The validation has completed for that WU http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=199559134

The decider was:

<core_client_version>5.5.0</core_client_version>
<stderr_txt>
Optimized SETI@Home Enhanced application

Optimizers: Ben Herndon, Josef Segur, Alex Kan, Simon Zadra
Version: Windows SSE 32-bit 'Ni!' based on seti V5.15 'Chicken Good!'
Rev: (R-2.0|QxK|FFT:IPP_SSE|Ben-Joe)
CPUID: 'AMD K7x Athlon XP (Barton)'
cpus: 1 cores: 1 threads: 1 cache: L1=64K L2=512K L3=0K
features: mmx 3Dnow 3Dnow+ sse
speed: 1831 MHz -- read megs/sec: L1=10314, L2=4320, RAM=919

Work Unit Info
True angle range: 0.407370

Spikes Pulses Triplets Gaussians Flops
2 0 1 1 16437514820842
</stderr_txt>

The other valid result was:

<core_client_version>5.10.20</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Optimized SETI@Home Enhanced application
Optimizers: Ben Herndon, Josef Segur, Alex Kan, Simon Zadra
Version: Windows SSSE3 32-bit based on S@H V5.15 'Noo? No - Ni!'
Revision: R-2.4V|xT|FFT:IPP_SSSE3|Ben-Joe
CPUID: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz
Speed: 4 x 2400 MHz
Cache: L1=64K L2=4096K
Features: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3

Work Unit Info
WU Credit multi. is: 2.85
WU True angle range: 0.407370

Spikes Pulses Triplets Gaussians Flops
3 0 1 1 16436770508021

</stderr_txt>
]]>
489) Message boards : Number crunching : What happened here ? (Message 699739)
Posted 13 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Josef W. Segur wrote:

Yes, the 704923776 task result for that WU is an example of a bug I'm attempting to solve, but there's not enough information in the Task Details pages to be much help. The bug is almost certainly random and not related to the WU characteristics so I consider the compute errors from 2 other hosts unrelated.
                                                                Joe


The 2 hosts on that WU that have not generated Compute Errors have different versions of MS Windows (Vista and XP) and one is an Intel Core 2 Quad, the other an AMD 64. When I have seen this before, it was the Vista system that had the -9 overflow, this time it is the XP one.

One of the ones with compute errors had a group of these close together, the other one seems to have just had 1 compute error.

As you say, there is not realy enough data to see any trend, just another random WU where the hosts dissagreed about the result.
490) Message boards : Number crunching : What happened here ? (Message 699561)
Posted 12 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Not had time to click through all the result links to look for trends, but http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=199559134 looks worthy of investigation by someone with time to spare.

I think Joe Segur was interested in WU's like this a while back. I've been a bit busy in the non-SETI world recently, so have not had time to keep up to date with the latest debates here.
491) Message boards : Number crunching : Pending Credit (Message 698907)
Posted 10 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Keith T. wrote:
I just had a good day for credit, 3 short term pending results all came in this morning :-)

I still have 3 long term pendings from before my PC's were shut down when I went on vacation, but 2 of those are due to time out tomorrow morning.

Pending credit is very much a lottery, I just happened to get 3 balls come in at once!


Quoting my own message, one of my long term pending, tasks came in today thanks to depauley.

Pending can last for any time from a few minutes, to a few months.

There was a thread a few weeks ago about who had the longest wait for credit. I think it was Geek@Play or Jason Gee that won that contest. I can't find the thread right now but it was sticky for a while. I'm sure someone else will find it as soon as I post this.
492) Message boards : Number crunching : MIA (Message 698524)
Posted 9 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
...
I missed that post so am in the dark as usual....what did he say?


Here are Simon's publicly viewable posts Posts by KWSN - Chicken of Angnor.

I also miss Simon, I hope that he returns soon.
493) Message boards : Politics : Nuclear Fission Power (Message 698400)
Posted 8 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7174899.stm

The British Government is about to announce a decision on the building of new Nuclear power stations.

Until Fusion power generation becomes feasible (if ever) I think that nuclear fission power may be our best option to reduce carbon emmisions, but the environmentalists (GreenPeace) think otherwise.

What are the world's best choices for energy until fusion reactors arrive?
494) Message boards : Number crunching : Pending Credit (Message 698387)
Posted 8 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I just had a good day for credit, 3 short term pending results all came in this morning :-)

I still have 3 long term pendings from before my PC's were shut down when I went on vacation, but 2 of those are due to time out tomorrow morning.

Pending credit is very much a lottery, I just happened to get 3 balls come in at once!
495) Message boards : Number crunching : CLOSED** SETI/BOINC Milestones [tm] XII ** CLOSED (Message 697615)
Posted 5 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Sometime on the first Saturday of January 2007 I returned to SETI@home and started running BOINC.

So I have been running BOINC for 1 year tomorrow. 06 Jan.

In that time I have run SETI on 3 older Windows PC's:

My trusty Athlon XP 2200+ http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3001110
My old P233 MMX http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3066425
Also ran it for a while on a PII box. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3150229

In that year I also added SETI Beta, LHC@home, Rosetta@home, RALPH (Rosetta ALPHA), Leiden Classical, and most recently SIMAP.

I have participated in the forums (mostly constructively), helped a few new users, helped a few times with Beta issues and Validation Errors, and tried to help advance the course of Science for SETI and other BOINC projects.

I am not a credit hound, but I hope to add some new and better hardware this year, so that I may contribute even more.

The last year has been a bit of a rollercoaster.

Here's to 2008 and lots more milestones, and lots more Science.

Keith
496) Message boards : Politics : h-d-y-g-b (epilogue) (Message 696855)
Posted 3 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I am posting this from my cellular phone while I am at work, so please excuse any problems with formatting.

After communicating with both Fuzzy & Misfit over the last few days, I have learned that nothing should be taken at face value.

I was advised by email some weeks ago not to trust certain mods. I was very careful what I said, but I have found that once I got to know people better that they are not bad people after all,

I think some of you know who advised me not to trust Fuzzy, Misfit or certain others. I am not going to name him here, as he no longer posts on SETI as far as I know,

Why can't we all be friends?
Keith
497) Message boards : Politics : h-d-y-g-b (epilogue) (Message 696783)
Posted 2 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Am i the only one, with one account?


;)))

@ champ - THAT 'other' account - as stated by mi - is NOT mine - somebody else created it . . .

Their USER ID: 8740977


Whoever it is has taken the trouble to make a donation :-)

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_user.php?userid=8740977
498) Message boards : Politics : h-d-y-g-b (epilogue) (Message 696760)
Posted 2 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
It would probably be a good idea if every time someone submitted a post, they were reminded that these forums usually preserve eveything for posterity unless a post or thread is hidden by a mod.

This might reduce some peoples post counts somewhat, but that would probably not be a bad thing.

The golden rule should be "don't post something online that you would not say to that person face to face". I don't think that I have ever broken that rule.

Keith
499) Message boards : Politics : h-d-y-g-b (epilogue) (Message 696754)
Posted 2 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Fuzzy Hollynoodles wrote:
Keith T. wrote:
Some very good points there.

One possible improvement that could be made to the mod list, might be for those who are mods to use their real names, or at least a contraction of them.

Most of the best mods, in my opinion, are not afraid to hide behind an alias, but use their real identiies, either as part of their username, or regularly in conversation.

I know (or suspect) that certain mods do have more than one ID here. Some have also made concerted efforts to hide their real names from public view.

If someone is to be a mod, I think that they should have the courage to be truly public. Perhaps others can give me good reasons why this should not happen.

Happy New Year
Keith.


Cyber and real life stalking where the police were involved. Is this a reason good enough to you?



Yes it is, I discussed this yesterday with Misfit by Private Message. I don't know if he forwarded you the conversation, I will do so if you like.

I do respect your decision to protect your real identity as much as possible. I have been around the internet since 1995 and am aware that there are many nasty people online as well as nice ones.

If someone had explained the reason for your change of ID previously, I would have not spent so much time searching for malevolent reasoning behind it.

I tried to piece together history out of mystery and managed to create more confusion in the process.

When someone tries to hide something on the internet, they are rarely sucessful. Things like Google's web cache and other software will usually get around most peoples efforts if the user is skillful enough.

I hope that you are not still having any problems from your former offline stalker.

Happy New Year, Keith
500) Message boards : Politics : h-d-y-g-b (epilogue) (Message 696742)
Posted 2 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Some very good points there.

One possible improvement that could be made to the mod list, might be for those who are mods to use their real names, or at least a contraction of them.

Most of the best mods, in my opinion, are not afraid to hide behind an alias, but use their real identiies, either as part of their username, or regularly in conversation.

I know (or suspect) that certain mods do have more than one ID here. Some have also made concerted efforts to hide their real names from public view.

If someone is to be a mod, I think that they should have the courage to be truly public. Perhaps others can give me good reasons why this should not happen.

Happy New Year
Keith.
501) Questions and Answers : Web site : How many people can I send the same PM to at once? (Message 696585)
Posted 1 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
It seems that if I try to send a PM to more than 2 people at the same time, I get an error "You are not allowed to send privates messages so often. Please wait some time before sending more messages."

Is it intentional that the limit is set so low?

I usually send a copy of each PM that I send to myself as there is no "Sent Items" featue in the PM system.
502) Message boards : Number crunching : result validation error (Message 696568)
Posted 1 Jan 2008 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
This one http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=193731414 seems to have been missed by Eric's script.

The most recently sent result is one of mine, that's how I spotted it, as I sometimes like to look at my WU's before they get worked on.

Keith
503) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The kitties are back......... (Message 695699)
Posted 29 Dec 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Mark, I think this is how most here feel, don't let the chain-yankers *win* :/
water off a ducks back and all that :)


The original is great, this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VlRUIHwygc&feature=related is good too!
504) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The kitties are back......... (Message 695698)
Posted 29 Dec 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Mark, I'm sorry to read this, and hope that I have not contributed in any way to your decision to quit these boards.

I am definitly not a cat hater, but I do hate injustice. I try to read or listen to both sides of an argument before holding any strong opinions in one direction or another.

I hope that you will be back soon, and that your massive contribution to SETI and distruted computing will be recognized by others here.

SETI@home remains a great online community, but would be sadder and emptier if it were to lose one of it's greatest assets.

Sincerely, Keith

edit:

that should have been distributed computing in case anyone misunderstood my typo.
505) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The kitties are back......... (Message 695665)
Posted 29 Dec 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Torn

There's nothing where he used to lie
My inspiration has run dry
That's what's going on, nothings right, I'm torn


Monty Python - Always Look on the Bright Side of Life
The Galaxy Song (Monty Python)
506) Message boards : Cafe SETI : The kitties are back......... (Message 695659)
Posted 29 Dec 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
The kitties have written
'bout their troubles and trials.
They have held many truths
and have told few denials.

But the time now has come
for the kitties to say
that they've had lots of fun
but they're going away.

Away from this place
full of challenge and strife.
Away from this place
with little to do 'bout this life.

I've told you all here
'bout where I've been and I've gone..
I've given to all some advice
and sang to all my fun songs.

I've shared all I had
of the trouble I've lived though
And held little back shared
with posts that I'd give you.

Still some here have dissed me
and sent me away.
And a few kitty haters
sent me 'long on my way.

'S cold 'round here now with the crunchers'
power switches shut down.
And the kitties are not sure
why their master doth frown.

It may be an hour
or it may be a day.
'Till the crunchers decide when
to come back to the fray.

I have bargained and bickered with
the least of you all
and smiled and shared stories
'bout the kitties and all.

But some would not listen
and some had to quibble
'bout my songs and my stories
'bout the kitties and kibble.

So here you all have it
I've gone aft aglay....
The kitties will be here
in bed where I lay.

I've tried hard to share here
my kitties and life.
And sometimes it tumbled a bit
over to strife.

But share as I did
I thank those who did listen.
And shared with me sometimes
the love of a kitten.


Later,
Mark.


Mark, I'm sorry to read this, and hope that I have not contributed in any way to your decision to quit these boards.

I am definitly not a cat hater, but I do hate injustice. I try to read or listen to both sides of an argument before holding any strong opinions in one direction or another.

I hope that you will be back soon, and that your massive contribution to SETI and distruted computing will be recognized by others here.

SETI@home remains a great online community, but would be sadder and emptier if it were to lose one of it's greatest assets.

Sincerely, Keith
507) Message boards : Number crunching : What page do you leave Boinc on for the quickest work? (Message 695329)
Posted 28 Dec 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Even if not running as a service, you can slightly optimize CPU cycles by the following.

On the <Advanced> menu, click on <Select Computer>. Type in "dummy" or "null" or something similar which does not refer to one of the host names on your local network, leave the password blank.

A few seconds later BOINC Manager will come up with a dialog box: "BOINC Manager is not able to connect to a BOINC client, Would you like to try again?" Choose <No>, then click on <File>, <Exit>.

BOINC Manager is now closed, but BOINC, and the science apps for SETI and all other projects will continue to run in the background.

To regain control of BOINC via a GUI interface, just re-start BOINC Manager, or you can also use Command Line tools via the boinccmd app in the BOINC folder.

I have been using this procedure on my slower PC for months with various different versions of BOINC, and it works flawlessly, according to WINTOP on my Windows 98 host, the science app is using ~ 99.75% CPU with BOINC using 0.05%

[edited]
508) Message boards : Politics : Benazir Bhutto assassinated by Islamists (Message 695007)
Posted 27 Dec 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
It is also scary that Pakistan is a Nuclear Weapons State.

[EDIT]
Just noticed that link is quite old, here is a better one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction
509) Message boards : Politics : Benazir Bhutto assassinated by Islamists (Message 694994)
Posted 27 Dec 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Very sad news.
510) Message boards : Number crunching : Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year !! (Message 694507)
Posted 25 Dec 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I am bumping this mainly because of the thread title!

This is also my first post using my new Nokia N95 cell phone.

Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays to everyone.

Keith
511) Message boards : SETI@home Science : Shuttle Launch Tomorrow (Dec 7th 2007) (Message 689287)
Posted 6 Dec 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
http://www.nasa.gov/missions/highlights/schedule.html
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts122/index.html


Dec. 6, 10 a.m. EST: During tanking, two of four LH2 Engine Cutoff (ECO) sensors failed to respond appropriately, which is a Launch Commit Violation. The requirement to proceed calls for 3 of 4. The launch was scrubbed at 9:56 a.m. EST on the recommendation of Launch Director Doug Lyons.

Mission Management Team Chairman LeRoy Cain concurred following a short briefing on the issue. The ice inspection team will proceed with an abbreviated vehicle inspection prior to offloading the LO2 and LH2 and recycle for a launch attempt tomorrow, at 4:09 p.m.


http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html
512) Message boards : Number crunching : Outage Warning. (Front Page News) (Message 689283)
Posted 6 Dec 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Outage Warning: This Thursday (December 6) around 15:00 PST we will be shutting the entire project down all night for lab-wide electrical repairs. All web sites and data servers will be offline until Friday morning.

PST is UTC -8 hours, so that will be around 23:00 UTC.
513) Message boards : Technical News : The Three Leaves Insect (Dec 05 2007) (Message 689246)
Posted 6 Dec 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:

...

Our friend at Intel gave us a 1U server missing CPUs a few months ago, and yesterday came through with a pair of quad cores. I scraped together 4GB of RAM, and we're ordering some drives now. This may very well become our new public web server. If it actually works once I install an OS (no guarantees yet - it's an engineering test model) I'll take this off the hardware donation page.

- Matt


Thanks Matt, and thanks Intel too.
514) Message boards : Technical News : Gnat Attack (Dec 04 2007) (Message 688821)
Posted 5 Dec 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
5.10.x (5.8.17 for Mac) supports lost/ghost WU re-sends.

My P233 MMX has had a pending WU since 24 October (sent 16 October) crunch time was 451347 seconds (125.37 hours or 5.22 days). The WU took just over 8 days to return because the host crunches other projects as well. AR is 0.387146 Claimed Credit 74.13

The crunching partner (wingman) appears to be using BOINC ver 4.25 according to his returned results.

He has returned at least 5 results in the last few days, but has over 250 unreturned from the period 15 - 18 October. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=844931.

I think that it is highly likely that TMR had a problem with that host, and those 250+ WU's will get re-issued over the next few weeks.

250* 375,300 bytes = 93825000 or 91.625 MB that's just for one host's cache. I have seen reports of 1500 - 2000 WU caches in extreme cases.

Enforcing a BOINC version may be unpopular with some, but it would help to rid the project of some of the Ghost/Zombie/Lost WU's.

[edit]
I just noticed that TMR has about 25 active hosts. They are running a wide variety of BOINC versions ranging from 4.25 to 5.10.7, most of them seem to be 4.xx versions.
515) Message boards : Number crunching : Nothing changed, but processing slows to 1/2 speed (Message 688376)
Posted 3 Dec 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
At onen point I experienced my one computer slowing down to about 1/2 speed. I don't know what caused it, but things took much longer than in the past. That appeared to happen again. However, this time it was just a series of WUs that took long in relation to credit. None had been crunched by another computer at first post, so I couldn't tell if I was crunching them in proportion. Rather it was easier to jump to the conclusion that my system was somehow processing slower. :)

Thanks for the info, it helps to understand this a little better. I'm sure many others are curious what's going on. Of course if I was curious enough I'd grab a copy of the code and look.


Glad to help, you can see the AR of your current tasks by looking in the slot folders while the tasks are crunching.

e.g.
C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\slots\\0
C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\slots\\1

There will be a file in each slot folder or directory called stderr.txt, if you open that file using Notepad, you can see the AR of your current task. Make sur that you do not modify that file while viewing it.
516) Message boards : Number crunching : There's more changes afoot. (Message 688239)
Posted 3 Dec 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Why does this thread not make much sense ?


Because the original author has been banished.


Thanks. If you want to try to make sense of any threads by banished posters you can still view their posts at their posting history page.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_user_posts.php?userid=

You will need to edit the URL to add the ID of the banished poster.

However,

any posts that have been 'hidden' remain hidden for everyone except the original poster.

... So you'll still get the "modded" story...

Regards,
Martin


I don't want to get too far off topic, so I will send you a reply by PM.

Keith.
517) Message boards : Number crunching : There's more changes afoot. (Message 688226)
Posted 3 Dec 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Why does this thread not make much sense ?


Because the original author has been banished.


Thanks. If you want to try to make sense of any threads by banished posters you can still view their posts at their posting history page.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_user_posts.php?userid=

You will need to edit the URL to add the ID of the banished poster.
518) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Optimized application tests and recommendations. (Message 688099)
Posted 3 Dec 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Thanks for all your help Astro.
519) Message boards : Number crunching : What is a WU of the same AR???? (Message 688097)
Posted 3 Dec 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
We seem to be losing a lot of useful information from these forums at the moment. I hope that this situation is not permanent !
520) Message boards : Number crunching : Nov 18th front page news (Message 688091)
Posted 3 Dec 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Where did the thread go ?
521) Message boards : Number crunching : There's more changes afoot. (Message 688089)
Posted 3 Dec 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Why does this thread not make much sense ?
522) Message boards : Number crunching : The powerful P60 has been retired, again, until next time (Message 688087)
Posted 3 Dec 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Are we still able to read the P60 story ?
523) Message boards : Number crunching : Team Fora right here at the Seti Fora (Message 688086)
Posted 3 Dec 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Why do I appear to be the first poster in this thread?

It appears that all of Astro's posts have now been hidden !
524) Message boards : Number crunching : Checked, but no consensus yet (Message 687887)
Posted 2 Dec 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Getting back on topic, this WU is notable because one computer had a -9 overflow and the other did not, neither one is a Vista box.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=175318278

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=650351424
Task ID	650351424
Name	22mr07aa.11254.13979.12.6.190_1
Workunit	175318278
Created	2 Nov 2007 17:14:40 UTC
Sent	3 Nov 2007 5:05:14 UTC
Received	22 Nov 2007 13:11:33 UTC
Server state	Over
Outcome	Success
Client state	Done
Exit status	0 (0x0)
Computer ID	3500735
Report deadline	25 Dec 2007 12:38:38 UTC
CPU time	5391.625
stderr out	<core_client_version>5.10.13</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Optimized SETI@Home Enhanced application
Optimizers: Ben Herndon, Josef Segur, Alex Kan, Simon Zadra
   Version: Windows SSE3 32-bit based on S@H V5.15  'Noo? No - Ni!'
  Revision: R-2.4V|xP|FFT:IPP_SSE3|Ben-Joe
     CPUID: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU           @ 2.66GHz 
     Speed: 4 x 3144 MHz 
     Cache: L1=64K L2=4096K
  Features: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 
 
Work Unit Info
WU Credit multi. is:  2.85
WU True angle range:  0.409353

Spikes Pulses Triplets Gaussians Flops
   1      3       0        5     16375970976668

</stderr_txt>
]]>
Validate state	Checked, but no consensus yet
Claimed credit	54.0343931086874
Granted credit	0
application version	5.28

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=650544007
Task ID	650544007
Name	22mr07aa.11254.13979.12.6.190_2
Workunit	175318278
Created	3 Nov 2007 0:25:26 UTC
Sent	3 Nov 2007 7:20:23 UTC
Received	3 Nov 2007 9:30:00 UTC
Server state	Over
Outcome	Success
Client state	Done
Exit status	0 (0x0)
Computer ID	3970692
Report deadline	25 Dec 2007 14:53:47 UTC
CPU time	86.828125
stderr out	<core_client_version>5.4.11</core_client_version>
<stderr_txt>
setiathome_enhanced 5.27 DevC++/MinGW

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is :  0.409353
Optimal function choices:
-----------------------------------------------------
name                
-----------------------------------------------------
              v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
          v_vGetPowerSpectrum2 0.00051 0.00000 
             sse3_ChirpData_ak 0.02783 0.00000 
              v_vTranspose4ntw 0.01309 0.00000 
                BH SSE folding 0.00301 0.00000 
SETI@Home Informational message -9 result_overflow
NOTE: The number of results detected exceeds the storage space allocated.

Flopcounter: 10551110616.903502

Spike count:    0
Pulse count:    31
Triplet count:  0
Gaussian count: 0

</stderr_txt>
Validate state	Checked, but no consensus yet
Claimed credit	0.0512391959006655
Granted credit	0
application version	5.27


Both computers are running Windows XP.
525) Message boards : Number crunching : Nothing changed, but processing slows to 1/2 speed (Message 687879)
Posted 2 Dec 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Sorry to be unclear. I meant duration of the actual task. And now the correction factor is twice as high too. Meaning that my computer is actually computing tasks slower approx. by a factor of 2.

However, it seems like there were some low value tasks that took a lot of ocmputing power. I'm not sure how that value is calculated, but things look like they are on track again.


Every task or workunit (WU) has a different Angle Range (AR), according to what was happening at the telescope when the data was recorded.

SETI@home does different work on the WU according to AR. You can see the AR in your results e.g. "WU True angle range: 0.444545"

Different AR WU's get different credit and different deadlines too according to how long they are estimated to run.

If you look at your recent results you will see different ammounts of credit according to AR
WU true angle range is :  0.404012   Claimed credit 54.33
WU true angle range is :  1.386794   Claimed credit 19.41
WU true angle range is :  0.403866   Claimed credit 7.99   SETI@Home Informational message -9 result_overflow
WU true angle range is :  0.403816   Claimed credit 32.14   SETI@Home Informational message -9 result_overflow
WU true angle range is :  0.444076   Claimed credit 50.73
WU true angle range is :  0.348418   Claimed credit 81.12
WU true angle range is :  0.010435   Claimed credit 63.98
WU true angle range is :  0.981818   Claimed credit 29.02
WU true angle range is :  2.402946   Claimed credit 17.37

These are just an example from some of your recent results. The -9 result_overflow results are noisey WU's where SAH stopped processing when it found >30 pulses.

I think other more expert people can explain this better or refer to a web page with more information.

Keith.
526) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC project problems (Message 686861)
Posted 30 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Rosetta website is back.
527) Message boards : Number crunching : More mobo mayhem........... (Message 686785)
Posted 30 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
...
this morning I got a call from a Tiger sales rep asking me if I wanted to set up a corporate account so I could get special quotes and such from him.
He seemed a bit disheartened when I told him that all of my purchases were for my own personal use, and I was not a corporate purchasing agent......
Nice to be noticed though...LOL again.


Is there a cost to opening a corporate account?

If they have offered you one it may be worth doing for the discounts.

I don't live in your State (or Country) so I don't know what local laws e.g. tax may apply.
528) Message boards : Number crunching : Pending results (Message 686741)
Posted 30 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Did you read the replies to your previous thread on the same subject?

Every workunit (WU) that your computer gets is also sent to at least 1 other computer.

Credit is issued when a similar result is received from both.

When you return a result first, you will get a pending credit.

If both results agree then credit is granted.

Somtimes you have to wait days or weeks (rarely months) for the credit to be granted.
529) Message boards : Number crunching : Messages (Message 686274)
Posted 29 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
All you have to do is click on the image and it enlarges.


That's what I've been doing too. The question is why is it doing that?


I think it happens at times of high server load. See Matt's Tech News, and Cricket Graphs.
530) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows Vista compute errors and -9 overflows (Message 686254)
Posted 29 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Changing the title of this to "Windows Vista compute errors and -9 overflows"
531) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows Vista compute errors and -9 overflows (Message 685865)
Posted 28 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
This will be a long post as I am going to copy the results for all 4 hosts on the WU. I will use color to make things a bit clearer.


Task ID 665287705
Name 22fe07ab.5393.20522.13.6.65_1
Workunit 182281232
Created 22 Nov 2007 23:30:42 UTC
Sent 23 Nov 2007 9:59:19 UTC
Received 28 Nov 2007 20:42:23 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Success
Client state Done
Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 2846863
Report deadline 19 Jan 2008 14:37:43 UTC
CPU time 8278.765625
stderr out <core_client_version>5.8.11</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Optimized SETI@Home Enhanced application

Optimizers: Ben Herndon, Josef Segur, Alex Kan, Simon Zadra
Version: Windows SSE3 32-bit based on seti V5.15 'Ni!'
Rev: (R-2.4|xT|FFT:IPP_SSE3|Ben-Joe)
CPUID: 'Intel C2D Core 2 Duo (Conroe 2M)'
cpus: 1 cores: 2 threads: 1 cache: L1=32K L2=2048K L3=0K
features: mmx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3
speed: 2133 MHz -- read megs/sec: L1=8039, L2=6834, RAM=4377

Work Unit Info
True angle range: 0.381173
SETI@Home Informational message -9 result_overflow
NOTE: The number of results detected exceeds the storage space allocated.

Spikes Pulses Triplets Gaussians Flops
29 0 0 1 21510369536298

</stderr_txt>
]]>
Validate state Valid
Claimed credit 70.9707791417242
Granted credit 70.9707791417242
application version 5.27

Task ID 667946416
Name 22fe07ab.5393.20522.13.6.65_3
Workunit 182281232
Created 26 Nov 2007 20:14:47 UTC
Sent 27 Nov 2007 3:41:45 UTC
Received 27 Nov 2007 15:10:44 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Success
Client state Done
Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 3973998
Report deadline 23 Jan 2008 8:20:09 UTC
CPU time 8979.734375
stderr out <core_client_version>5.10.28</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
setiathome_enhanced 5.27 DevC++/MinGW

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is : 0.381173
Optimal function choices:
-----------------------------------------------------
name
-----------------------------------------------------
v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
v_vGetPowerSpectrumUnrolled 0.00010 0.00000
sse3_ChirpData_ak 0.01082 0.00000
v_vTranspose4 0.00589 0.00000
AK SSE folding 0.00085 0.00000
SETI@Home Informational message -9 result_overflow
NOTE: The number of results detected exceeds the storage space allocated.

Flopcounter: 21511048084809.566000

Spike count: 29
Pulse count: 0
Triplet count: 0
Gaussian count: 1

</stderr_txt>
]]>
Validate state Valid
Claimed credit 70.9730174093834
Granted credit 70.9707791417242
application version 5.27

Task ID 665287704
Name 22fe07ab.5393.20522.13.6.65_0
Workunit 182281232
Created 22 Nov 2007 23:30:42 UTC
Sent 23 Nov 2007 9:20:05 UTC
Received 25 Nov 2007 19:12:52 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Client error
Client state Compute error
Exit status -1073741819 (0xc0000005)
Computer ID 4008477
Report deadline 19 Jan 2008 13:58:29 UTC
CPU time 9601.859375
stderr out <core_client_version>5.10.28</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
- exit code -1073741819 (0xc0000005)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
setiathome_enhanced 5.27 DevC++/MinGW

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is : 0.381173
Optimal function choices:
-----------------------------------------------------
name
-----------------------------------------------------
v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
v_vGetPowerSpectrumUnrolled 0.00012 0.00000
sse3_ChirpData_ak 0.01227 0.00000
v_vTranspose4 0.00757 0.00000
AK SSE folding 0.00088 0.00000
Restarted at 35.42 percent.


Unhandled Exception Detected...

- Unhandled Exception Record -
Reason: Access Violation (0xc0000005) at address 0x00000100 read attempt to address 0x00000100

Engaging BOINC Windows Runtime Debugger...



********************


BOINC Windows Runtime Debugger Version 5.10.0


Dump Timestamp : 11/25/07 06:45:39
Debugger Engine : 4.0.5.0
Symbol Search Path: C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\slots\\0;C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\projects\\setiathome.berkeley.edu;srv*C:\\Users\\Terry\\AppData\\Local\\Temp\\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols


ModLoad: 00400000 007f6000 C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\projects\\setiathome.berkeley.edu\\setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx86.exe (5.27.0.0) (-nosymbols- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 5.27
Company Name : Space Sciences Laboratory
Product Name : setiathome_enhanced
Product Version: 5.27

ModLoad: 775a0000 0011e000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\ntdll.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 761a0000 000d8000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\kernel32.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 774e0000 000bf000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\ADVAPI32.DLL (6.0.6000.16386) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 75fb0000 000c3000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\RPCRT4.dll (6.0.6000.16525) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 75ee0000 0004b000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\GDI32.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 77740000 0009e000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\USER32.dll (6.0.6000.16438) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 74980000 00023000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\GLU32.DLL (6.0.6000.16386) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 77280000 000aa000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\msvcrt.dll (7.0.6000.16386) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 7.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 7.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 6ce00000 000cb000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\OPENGL32.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 6de30000 000e6000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\DDRAW.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 70c10000 00006000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\DCIMAN32.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 762b0000 00188000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\SETUPAPI.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

Get Product Name Failed.
ModLoad: 77380000 0008c000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\OLEAUT32.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name :
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 76f10000 00144000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\ole32.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 70da0000 0000c000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\dwmapi.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 6e880000 000da000 C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\projects\\setiathome.berkeley.edu\\libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
ModLoad: 76180000 0001e000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\IMM32.DLL (6.0.6000.16386) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 760b0000 000c7000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\MSCTF.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 776c0000 00009000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\LPK.DLL (6.0.6000.16386) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 75e60000 0007d000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\USP10.dll (1.626.6000.16386) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 1.0626.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft(R) Uniscribe Unicode script processor
Product Version: 1.0626.6000.16386

ModLoad: 74040000 0003f000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\uxtheme.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 69000000 00a60000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\atioglxx.dll (6.14.10.6956) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.14.10.6956
Company Name : ATI Technologies Inc.
Product Name : ATI OpenGL driver
Product Version: 6.14.10.6956

ModLoad: 76280000 0002d000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\WS2_32.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 77730000 00006000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\NSI.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 771f0000 00084000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\CLBCatQ.DLL (2001.12.6930.16386) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 2001.12.6930.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 71990000 00115000 C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\dbghelp.dll (6.6.7.5) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.6.0007.5 (debuggers(dbg).051021-1446)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Debugging Tools for Windows(R)
Product Version: 6.6.0007.5

ModLoad: 72890000 00083000 C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\symsrv.dll (6.6.7.5) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.6.0007.5 (debuggers(dbg).051021-1446)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Debugging Tools for Windows(R)
Product Version: 6.6.0007.5

ModLoad: 72a30000 0003a000 C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\srcsrv.dll (6.6.7.5) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.6.0007.5 (debuggers(dbg).051021-1446)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Debugging Tools for Windows(R)
Product Version: 6.6.0007.5

ModLoad: 751b0000 00008000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\version.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (PDB Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386



*** Dump of the Process Statistics: ***

- I/O Operations Counters -
Read: 126, Write: 0, Other 350

- I/O Transfers Counters -
Read: 0, Write: 662, Other 0

- Paged Pool Usage -
QuotaPagedPoolUsage: 130304, QuotaPeakPagedPoolUsage: 145432
QuotaNonPagedPoolUsage: 4728, QuotaPeakNonPagedPoolUsage: 5328

- Virtual Memory Usage -
VirtualSize: 185851904, PeakVirtualSize: 248561664

- Pagefile Usage -
PagefileUsage: 92860416, PeakPagefileUsage: 166580224

- Working Set Size -
WorkingSetSize: 55549952, PeakWorkingSetSize: 147275776, PageFaultCount: 9197553

*** Dump of the Graphics thread (14ac): ***

- Information -
Status: Waiting, Wait Reason: UserRequest, Kernel Time: 72343752.000000, User Time: 2629531136.000000, Wait Time: 47130908.000000

- Registers -
eax=00000001 ebx=0022fd70 ecx=0022fc30 edx=77600f34 esi=0022fd70 edi=00000000
eip=77600f34 esp=0022fc64 ebp=0022fc88
cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs=0000 efl=00000246

- Callstack -
ChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child
0022fc60 7776199a 77753ad1 0022fd70 00000000 00000000 ntdll!_KiFastSystemCallRet@0+0x0 FPO: [0,0,0]
0022fc64 77753ad1 0022fd70 00000000 00000000 00000000 USER32!_NtUserGetMessage@16+0x0
0022fc88 0043a750 0022fd70 00000000 00000000 00000000 USER32!_GetMessageA@16+0x0
0022ff58 00401237 00000001 01362508 013615f0 00559000 setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx8!+0x0
0022ff90 004012a8 00000002 00000000 0022ffac 761e3833 setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx8!+0x0
0022ffa0 761e3833 7ffd6000 0022ffec 775da9bd 7ffd6000 setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx8!+0x0
0022ffac 775da9bd 7ffd6000 0022f9df 00000000 00000000 kernel32!@BaseThreadInitThunk@12+0x0
0022ffec 00000000 00bf30a0 7ffd6000 00000000 78746341 ntdll!__RtlUserThreadStart@8+0x0

*** Dump of the Worker thread (a44): ***

- Information -
Status: Waiting, Wait Reason: UserRequest, Kernel Time: 9062500.000000, User Time: 60780470272.000000, Wait Time: 47130908.000000

- Unhandled Exception Record -
Reason: Access Violation (0xc0000005) at address 0x00000100 read attempt to address 0x00000100

- Registers -
eax=00000001 ebx=029ff294 ecx=00000100 edx=474e5543 esi=00504530 edi=0125a200
eip=00000100 esp=029ff26c ebp=029ff2a8
cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs=0000 efl=00010206

- Callstack -
ChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child
029ff268 004f172c 00000001 00000001 432b2b00 474e5543 !+0x0 SymFromAddr(): GetLastError = '126' SymGetModuleInfo(): GetLastError = '126' Address = '00000100'
029ff2a8 004e7365 0125a200 0055674c 029ff3a8 00406f43 setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx8!+0x0 SymFromAddr(): GetLastError = '126' SymGetModuleInfo(): GetLastError = '126' Address = '004f172c'
029ff2b8 00406f43 0125a220 0055674c 00504530 0055d6e0 setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx8!+0x0 SymFromAddr(): GetLastError = '126' SymGetModuleInfo(): GetLastError = '126' Address = '004e7365'
029ff3a8 004254e9 029ff460 3fe410eb 029ffb10 029ffb18 setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx8!+0x0 SymFromAddr(): GetLastError = '126' SymGetModuleInfo(): GetLastError = '126' Address = '00406f43'
029ffb88 00404300 082f0030 00002000 0000004e 0055d6e0 setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx8!+0x0 SymFromAddr(): GetLastError = '126' SymGetModuleInfo(): GetLastError = '126' Address = '004254e9'
029ffe88 0041a1e0 00559560 00000000 00000002 0042677c setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx8!+0x0 SymFromAddr(): GetLastError = '126' SymGetModuleInfo(): GetLastError = '126' Address = '00404300'
029fff90 0043db41 00000000 00000000 00000000 761e3833 setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx8!+0x0 SymFromAddr(): GetLastError = '126' SymGetModuleInfo(): GetLastError = '126' Address = '0041a1e0'
029fffac 775da9bd 00000000 029ff9df 00000000 00000000 setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx8!+0x0 SymFromAddr(): GetLastError = '126' SymGetModuleInfo(): GetLastError = '126' Address = '0043db41'
029fffec 00000000 0043db30 00000000 00000000 00000000 ntdll!__RtlUserThreadStart@8+0x0 SymFromAddr(): GetLastError = '126' SymGetModuleInfo(): GetLastError = '126' Address = '775da9bd'

*** Dump of the Timer thread (1440): ***

- Information -
Status: Waiting, Wait Reason: ExecutionDelay, Kernel Time: 0.000000, User Time: 0.000000, Wait Time: 47130872.000000

- Registers -
eax=0000007e ebx=00000001 ecx=00000000 edx=02bff375 esi=02bff6cc edi=00000000
eip=77600f34 esp=02bff688 ebp=02bff6f0
cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs=0000 efl=00000206

- Callstack -
ChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child
02bff684 775ff7c0 761e78e0 00000000 02bff6cc 02bf9ea2 ntdll!_KiFastSystemCallRet@0+0x0 FPO: [0,0,0]
02bff688 761e78e0 00000000 02bff6cc 02bf9ea2 ffffffff ntdll!_NtDelayExecution@8+0x0 FPO: [2,0,0]
02bff6f0 761a1da0 000003e8 00000000 02bfff98 0043c582 kernel32!_SleepEx@8+0x0
02bff700 0043c582 000003e8 40c2c0ee 00000000 40c2b8c6 kernel32!_Sleep@4+0x0
02bfff98 772a63de 02bfffac 761e3833 01363c20 02bfffec setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx8!+0x0
02bfffa0 761e3833 01363c20 02bfffec 775da9bd 01363c20 msvcrt!__endthreadex+0x0
02bfffac 775da9bd 01363c20 02bff9df 00000000 00000000 kernel32!@BaseThreadInitThunk@12+0x0
02bfffec 00000000 772a639b 01363c20 00000000 03410000 ntdll!__RtlUserThreadStart@8+0x0


*** Debug Message Dump ****


*** Foreground Window Data ***
Window Name :
Window Class :
Window Process ID: 0
Window Thread ID : 0

Exiting...

</stderr_txt>
]]>
Validate state Invalid
Claimed credit 70.9739921297934
Granted credit 0
application version 5.27

Task ID 667257264
Name 22fe07ab.5393.20522.13.6.65_2
Workunit 182281232
Created 25 Nov 2007 19:12:56 UTC
Sent 26 Nov 2007 3:39:27 UTC
Received 26 Nov 2007 20:14:45 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Client error
Client state Compute error
Exit status -1073741819 (0xc0000005)
Computer ID 3985145
Report deadline 22 Jan 2008 8:17:51 UTC
CPU time 13368.536895
stderr out <core_client_version>5.10.28</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
- exit code -1073741819 (0xc0000005)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
setiathome_enhanced 5.27 DevC++/MinGW

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is : 0.381173
Optimal function choices:
-----------------------------------------------------
name
-----------------------------------------------------
v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
v_vGetPowerSpectrumUnrolled2 0.00017 0.00000
sse3_ChirpData_ak 0.01626 0.00000
v_vpfTranspose8x4ntw 0.01139 0.00000
AK SSE folding 0.00119 0.00000


Unhandled Exception Detected...

- Unhandled Exception Record -
Reason: Access Violation (0xc0000005) at address 0x004F16F3 read attempt to address 0x00002018

Engaging BOINC Windows Runtime Debugger...



********************


BOINC Windows Runtime Debugger Version 5.10.0


Dump Timestamp : 11/26/07 13:13:46
LoadLibraryA( symsrv.dll ): GetLastError = 126
LoadLibraryA( srcsrv.dll ): GetLastError = 126
Debugger Engine : 4.0.5.0
Symbol Search Path: C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\slots\\2;C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\projects\\setiathome.berkeley.edu;srv*C:\\Users\\Joseph\\AppData\\Local\\Temp\\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols


ModLoad: 00400000 007f6000 C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\projects\\setiathome.berkeley.edu\\setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx86.exe (5.27.0.0) (-nosymbols- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 5.27
Company Name : Space Sciences Laboratory
Product Name : setiathome_enhanced
Product Version: 5.27

ModLoad: 77150000 00150000 C:\\Windows\\SysWOW64\\ntdll.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 755b0000 00110000 C:\\Windows\\syswow64\\kernel32.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 75e20000 000bf000 C:\\Windows\\syswow64\\ADVAPI32.DLL (6.0.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 758d0000 000f0000 C:\\Windows\\syswow64\\RPCRT4.dll (6.0.6000.16525) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 75350000 00060000 C:\\Windows\\syswow64\\Secur32.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 760a0000 00090000 C:\\Windows\\syswow64\\GDI32.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 75d50000 000d0000 C:\\Windows\\syswow64\\USER32.dll (6.0.6000.16438) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 74db0000 00023000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\GLU32.DLL (6.0.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 76130000 000aa000 C:\\Windows\\syswow64\\msvcrt.dll (7.0.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 7.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 7.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 70df0000 000cb000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\OPENGL32.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 72870000 000e6000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\DDRAW.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 72a00000 00006000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\DCIMAN32.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 756f0000 00188000 C:\\Windows\\syswow64\\SETUPAPI.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

Get Product Name Failed.
ModLoad: 75af0000 0008c000 C:\\Windows\\syswow64\\OLEAUT32.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name :
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 75b80000 00144000 C:\\Windows\\syswow64\\ole32.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 72e90000 0000c000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\dwmapi.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 6e880000 000da000 C:\\Program Files\\BOINC\\projects\\setiathome.berkeley.edu\\libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
ModLoad: 761e0000 00060000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\IMM32.DLL (6.0.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 754e0000 000c7000 C:\\Windows\\syswow64\\MSCTF.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 754a0000 00009000 C:\\Windows\\syswow64\\LPK.DLL (6.0.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 75cd0000 0007d000 C:\\Windows\\syswow64\\USP10.dll (1.626.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 1.0626.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft(R) Uniscribe Unicode script processor
Product Version: 1.0626.6000.16386

ModLoad: 10000000 00015000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\APSHook.dll (2.0.0.15) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 2.0.0.015
Company Name : Cognizance Corporation
Product Name : Cognizance Identity Manager
Product Version: 2.0

ModLoad: 75fb0000 00055000 C:\\Windows\\syswow64\\SHLWAPI.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 751e0000 00008000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\VERSION.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 77130000 00007000 C:\\Windows\\syswow64\\PSAPI.DLL (6.0.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 74ea0000 00194000 C:\\Windows\\WinSxS\\x86_microsoft.windows.common-controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.6000.16386_none_5d07289e07e1d100\\comctl32.dll (6.10.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.10 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 74ac0000 00080000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\uxtheme.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386

ModLoad: 69500000 00698000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\nvoglv32.dll (7.15.11.129) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 7.15.11.0129
Company Name : NVIDIA Corporation
Product Name : NVIDIA Compatible OpenGL ICD
Product Version: 7.15.11.0129

ModLoad: 71670000 000dc000 C:\\Windows\\system32\\dbghelp.dll (6.0.6000.16386) (-exported- Symbols Loaded)
File Version : 6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205)
Company Name : Microsoft Corporation
Product Name : Microsoft� Windows� Operating System
Product Version: 6.0.6000.16386



*** Dump of the Process Statistics: ***

- I/O Operations Counters -
Read: 116, Write: 0, Other 947

- I/O Transfers Counters -
Read: 0, Write: 2078, Other 0

- Paged Pool Usage -
QuotaPagedPoolUsage: 145208, QuotaPeakPagedPoolUsage: 146328
QuotaNonPagedPoolUsage: 11456, QuotaPeakNonPagedPoolUsage: 11520

- Virtual Memory Usage -
VirtualSize: 180744192, PeakVirtualSize: 189394944

- Pagefile Usage -
PagefileUsage: 94810112, PeakPagefileUsage: 111071232

- Working Set Size -
WorkingSetSize: 62541824, PeakWorkingSetSize: 113786880, PageFaultCount: 105906

*** Dump of the Graphics thread (cc8): ***

- Information -
Status: Waiting, Wait Reason: UserRequest, Kernel Time: 149604960.000000, User Time: 129792832.000000, Wait Time: 5514251.000000

- Registers -
eax=00000001 ebx=0027fd70 ecx=00000004 edx=00000000 esi=00000000 edi=00000000
eip=75d76405 esp=0027fc68 ebp=0027fc88
cs=0023 ss=002b ds=002b es=002b fs=0053 gs=002b efl=00000216

- Callstack -
ChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child
0027fc88 0043a750 0027fd70 00000000 00000000 00000000 USER32!GetMenuItemInfoA+0x0
0027ff58 00401237 00000001 014117b0 014119f0 00559000 setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx8!+0x0
0027ff90 004012a8 00000002 00000000 0027ffac 756319f1 setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx8!+0x0
0027ffa0 756319f1 7efde000 0027ffec 771cd109 7efde000 setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx8!+0x0
0027ffac 771cd109 7efde000 00279196 00000000 00000000 kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0x0
0027ffec 00000000 00bf30a0 7efde000 00000000 78746341 ntdll!RtlCreateUserProcess+0x0

*** Dump of the Worker thread (1300): ***

- Information -
Status: Waiting, Wait Reason: UserRequest, Kernel Time: 33540216.000000, User Time: 133655101440.000000, Wait Time: 5514251.000000

- Unhandled Exception Record -
Reason: Access Violation (0xc0000005) at address 0x004F16F3 read attempt to address 0x00002018

- Registers -
eax=00002000 ebx=0329f294 ecx=00000000 edx=00000005 esi=00504530 edi=0131d680
eip=004f16f3 esp=0329f270 ebp=0329f2a8
cs=0023 ss=002b ds=002b es=002b fs=0053 gs=002b efl=00010206

- Callstack -
ChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child
0329f2a8 004e7365 0131d680 0055674c 0329f3a8 00406f43 setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx8!+0x0
0329f2b8 00406f43 0131d6a0 0055674c 00504530 0055d6e0 setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx8!+0x0
0329f3a8 004254e9 0329f460 3fe410eb 0329fb10 0329fb18 setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx8!+0x0
0329fb88 00404300 04930030 00002000 0000004e 0055d6e0 setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx8!+0x0
0329fe88 0041a1e0 00559560 00000000 00000002 0042677c setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx8!+0x0
0329ff90 0043db41 00000000 00000000 00000000 756319f1 setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx8!+0x0
0329ffac 771cd109 00000000 03299196 00000000 00000000 setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx8!+0x0
0329ffec 00000000 0043db30 00000000 00000000 00000000 ntdll!RtlCreateUserProcess+0x0

*** Dump of the Timer thread (1298): ***

- Information -
Status: Waiting, Wait Reason: ExecutionDelay, Kernel Time: 0.000000, User Time: 0.000000, Wait Time: 5514227.000000

- Registers -
eax=00000000 ebx=00000001 ecx=00000004 edx=00000000 esi=0349f6cc edi=00000000
eip=7719ab1d esp=0349f68c ebp=0349f6f0
cs=0023 ss=002b ds=002b es=002b fs=0053 gs=002b efl=00000216

- Callstack -
ChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child
0349f6f0 755c0dac 000003e8 00000000 0349ff98 0043c582 ntdll!ZwDelayExecution+0x0
0349f700 0043c582 000003e8 40ca1c44 1c4ab961 40ca0a30 kernel32!Sleep+0x0
0349ff98 761563de 0349ffac 756319f1 01414038 0349ffec setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx8!+0x0
0349ffa0 756319f1 01414038 0349ffec 771cd109 01414038 msvcrt!_beginthreadex+0x0
0349ffac 771cd109 01414038 03499196 00000000 00000000 kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0x0
0349ffec 00000000 7615639b 01414038 00000000 03cb0000 ntdll!RtlCreateUserProcess+0x0

*** Dump of the thread (c3c): ***

- Information -
Status: Waiting, Wait Reason: Suspended, Kernel Time: 2496016.000000, User Time: 780005.000000, Wait Time: 5438283.000000

- Registers -
eax=00000000 ebx=0001869f ecx=00000000 edx=00000000 esi=067eff1c edi=00000000
eip=7719a69d esp=067efed8 ebp=067eff44
cs=0023 ss=002b ds=002b es=002b fs=0053 gs=002b efl=00000202

- Callstack -
ChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child
067eff44 755c1188 00000140 00000064 00000000 00d7f8f0 ntdll!NtWaitForSingleObject+0x0
067eff58 69789441 00000140 00000064 00d7ca00 696ffb19 kernel32!WaitForSingleObject+0x0
067eff68 696ffb19 00000140 00000064 00000000 067effac nvoglv32!DllMain+0x0
067eff8c 696ffbb3 00d7f940 69789208 00d7f940 00000000 nvoglv32!DllMain+0x0
067eff94 69789208 00d7f940 00000000 756319f1 00d7f940 nvoglv32!DllMain+0x0
067effa0 756319f1 00d7f940 067effec 771cd109 00d7f940 nvoglv32!DllMain+0x0
00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0x0


*** Debug Message Dump ****


*** Foreground Window Data ***
Window Name :
Window Class :
Window Process ID: 0
Window Thread ID : 0

Exiting...

</stderr_txt>
]]>
Validate state Invalid
Claimed credit 70.971470051577
Granted credit 0
application version 5.27


So the canonical result was a -9 overflow, but the 2 Vista boxes had compute errors!

Keith
532) Message boards : Number crunching : Oldest Pending Date (Message 685713)
Posted 28 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Does anyone still have August/September pendings???


Yes, My 11 August issue / Reported 13th August is still there [ An AWOL, then checked but no consensus, then another AWOL]. conceivably for much longer yet, though it should be reissued in a couple of days I believe. (from memory 2nd place title for oldest pending reported here ? [2nd Place By about an hour I think, :D] )

Jason


I see that one just got validated today !

588577147 3676307 11 Aug 2007 14:28:24 UTC 3 Oct 2007 10:43:01 UTC Over No reply New 0.00 --- ---
626013482 3528722 3 Oct 2007 14:27:22 UTC 6 Oct 2007 4:22:32 UTC Over Success Done 12,416.25 54.12 54.12
628221308 3640976 6 Oct 2007 4:22:44 UTC 28 Nov 2007 0:37:21 UTC Over No reply New 0.00 --- ---
588577146 3106419 11 Aug 2007 14:28:24 UTC 13 Aug 2007 4:02:44 UTC Over Success Done 16,262.48 54.12 54.12
668756324 3746296 28 Nov 2007 3:13:40 UTC 28 Nov 2007 12:42:30 UTC Over Success Done 10,706.05 54.12 54.12

Well done to "Þórgnýr Thoroddsen" for returning the _4 result quickly.
533) Message boards : Number crunching : Pending results (Message 685708)
Posted 28 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
As Jim said, you have to wait for credit until your result has been Validated against at least 1 other result from an independant computer. Occasionally it take a second validation if the 2 results returned are weakly similar or not similar.

You are in luck for your oldest result listed, it just validated and got credit a few minutes ago. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=163661332.

Most of your other pending results are less than a week old, so I wouldn't worry too much yet. If you want to see some long pendings take a look at Oldest Pending Date.

[EDIT]
Spelling and missing words!
534) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows Vista compute errors and -9 overflows (Message 685700)
Posted 28 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Just noticed that the 2 with Compute Errors are both running Vista, both have BOINC in "Program Files", and both have error code exit code -1073741819. Also both are running the stock science app.

[EDIT]
Thanks Jason, you spotted the same thing while I was typing that. You can see they both have BOINC in Program Files if you scroll down all the messages.

Ketih
535) Message boards : Number crunching : Windows Vista compute errors and -9 overflows (Message 685693)
Posted 28 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Take a look at this WU. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=182281232.

665287705 2846863 23 Nov 2007 9:59:19 UTC 19 Jan 2008 14:37:43 UTC In Progress Unknown New --- --- ---
667946416 3973998 27 Nov 2007 3:41:45 UTC 27 Nov 2007 15:10:44 UTC Over Success Done 8,979.73 70.97 pending
665287704 4008477 23 Nov 2007 9:20:05 UTC 25 Nov 2007 19:12:52 UTC Over Client error Compute error 9,601.86 70.97 ---
667257264 3985145 26 Nov 2007 3:39:27 UTC 26 Nov 2007 20:14:45 UTC Over Client error Compute error 13,368.54 70.97 ---
536) Message boards : Number crunching : The powerful P60 has been retired, again, until next time (Message 685245)
Posted 27 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Looks like we won't be reading any more "Powerful P60" stories for a while. :-(
537) Message boards : Number crunching : Checked, but no consensus yet (Message 684791)
Posted 26 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My computer has just received 2 more WU's with 2 pending results.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=182991421
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=183136526

The second one is noteworthy as there is a Vista -9 result and another result with just 1 Gausian.

I will probably get both of these done tomorrow. I will probably suspend other WU's to get these 2 done quicker.

Keith
538) Message boards : Politics : Proposal for change. (Message 684696)
Posted 26 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Tell me again why we need full time moderators? There is no value added that I can see. I'm not being facitious here, I just don't understand why policing these boards is so important. Whatever is said here, if read, is soon forgotten; and the occasional crazy can be easily identified and banned, if that becomes an issue.

On the other hand, I'd like to see more "MVP"'s who can wisely offer more carefully crafted technical information about the many aspects of the project.


The project and message boards reside on servers associated with UC Berkeley.

I beleive Eric K. has written in the past about why mods are needed. These boards are not usenet, they may reflect on Berkeley, hence the need for moderation.

[EDIT]
Added link to Wikipedia for those unfamiliar with Usenet.
539) Message boards : Number crunching : Cant report work on 1 machine (Message 684682)
Posted 26 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I had something like this once on SETI Beta.

I think what may have happened is that communication failed in the middle of a scheduler request.

Do you have any other BOINC projects on the machine?
Can those projects communicate OK?

Look in the BOINC folder (directory) for 2 files called sched_request_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml and sched_reply_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml

Do these files exist, and do they both have recent date/time stamps?

I suspect that one of them may have become corrupted.
540) Message boards : Number crunching : Checked, but no consensus yet (Message 684228)
Posted 25 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Thanks Joe.

I've saved the WU details, as I suspect it will be purged soon:

661077721 3388183 17 Nov 2007 21:27:05 UTC 21 Nov 2007 0:18:36 UTC Over Success Done 17,085.05 74.99 74.99
661077722 3978078 17 Nov 2007 21:36:59 UTC 23 Nov 2007 5:39:02 UTC Over Success Done 12,439.39 74.99 74.99
665391808 3001110 23 Nov 2007 13:07:14 UTC 24 Nov 2007 16:12:31 UTC Over Success Done 23,570.89 75.00 74.99

I looked through the history for the other 2 hosts. They have both had other CBNC results and Compute errors recently.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=180481409
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=180987818
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=178873377

It looks like they are both on the edge. I think at least one "The Uncle B's" is a serious overclocker.
541) Message boards : Number crunching : Checked, but no consensus yet (Message 683647)
Posted 24 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Joe, You have mail.
542) Message boards : Number crunching : Checked, but no consensus yet (Message 683561)
Posted 24 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:

Both hosts reported 2 Spikes, 4 Pulses, and 1 Triplet. It's highly likely those match. The result files will also have 1 each Best Spike, Best Pulse, Best Triplet, and Best Gaussian. The Best Triplet will be the same as the reported Triplet because there's only one threshold involved in that check. The Best Spike will be one of the 2 reported Spikes, but if they're sufficiently close in strength a tiny difference in calculation might make make the choice different between the hosts. Similarly, the Best Pulse might be any of the 4 reported Pulses. But all this is very theoretical, I've never had the chance to actually look at such non-consensual result files.

If you have the opportunity to make a copy of your result for the WU before it's deleted on your host, I'd like to look at it. It's just my curiosity, doesn't matter if you don't.
                                                                Joe


The WU is currently "Status: Waiting to Run" with 99.223% complete.
My Network is Suspended.

Do you want anything from the slot folder, or just the files from the project folder?

Keith

[EDIT]
I've Suspended the task to give Joe a chance to reply. I have plenty of other tasks for SETI and other projects to keep the machine warm.
543) Message boards : Number crunching : Crunching with another partition? (Message 683092)
Posted 23 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I have following problems:
1) On Windows, my main HDD (= C:\\) has only about 10 GB free space, but my USB hard drive (= H:\\) has more than 100GB free space. How can I make Boinc use H:\\ instead of C:\\, that I can gather more WUs & crunch more?

2) a similar problem is on my Linux /home partition. How can I use another partition than /home (e.g. that USB HDD) to have more space for the WUs?


How many WU's do you want to cache?

10GB should be enough for a reasonable cache of SETI WU's as each one is only 367KB. BOINC can be installed on another drive/partition quite easily (I am using D:) but most regulars here reccomend only caching 2 - 3 days work for normal use.
544) Message boards : Number crunching : Checked, but no consensus yet (Message 683088)
Posted 23 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My computer has been assigned one of these. I know they are rare, but not unknown.

The WU is http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=180316991.

I took a look at the results for the other 2 computers on the WU, no recent Compute Errors.

One of them is running stock app on Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 6 Stepping 5] [fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 mmx], using Win XP Pro.

The other one is using Optimized SETI@Home Enhanced application
Optimizers: Ben Herndon, Josef Segur, Alex Kan, Simon Zadra
Version: Windows SSE2 64-bit based on S@H V5.15 'Noo? No - Ni!'
Revision: R-2.4V|xW|FFT:IPP_SSE2|Ben-Joe
CPUID: Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 285
Speed: 1 x 2593 MHz
Cache: L1=64K L2=1024K
Features: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 x86_64
Windows XP Professional x64 Edition

Any comments ?

I am using:
Version: Windows SSE 32-bit based on S@H V5.15 'Noo? No - Ni!'
Revision: R-2.4V|xK|FFT:FFTW3_SSE|Ben-Joe
CPUID: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+
Speed: 1 x 1799 MHz
Cache: L1=64K L2=256K
Features: MMX SSE
Win XP Pro.
545) Message boards : Number crunching : insivible mouse (Message 682567)
Posted 22 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
After the screensaver load and when im coming back to pc my mouse is invisble i can use it and click but i cant see where it is i need help

Hi, what do you have to do to get the pointer back?
Is it the seti screensaver, or a windows/other screensaver?


Basically, we need more info. I see you're using Boinc 5.10.28 and the stock seti application (5.27) on an :

CPU type GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 4 Stepping 1]
Number of CPUs 2
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Professional Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00)


Also useful would be some or all of these:

Make & model of Display Adaptor (Graphics Card)
Make of Mouse
Do you have any special mouse pointers. e.g. Animated mouse pointers.
Display Resolution set, pixels and color (colour) depth.
546) Message boards : Number crunching : CLOSED** SETI/BOINC Milestones [tm] XII ** CLOSED (Message 682541)
Posted 22 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Well done to everyone else on their recent milestones.

I have a temporary one due to a few pendings coming in, combined with a 64 SETI credit day for my P233. More than 150 RAC for SETI.

My SETI RAC has also been above 100 for the last 60 days according to BOINCstats.
547) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Happy Thanksgiving! 8-D (Message 682318)
Posted 22 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Is Thanksgiving an entirely American holiday or is it somewhat universal?


I think most countries that get US TV or Hollywood movies have heard of Thanksgiving. e.g. The Simpsons or "Planes, Trains & Automobiles"
548) Message boards : Number crunching : Download limit (Message 682170)
Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I suspect the problem has been around for a long time, but has become more acute and more visible in the last few months, since the change from IR 4, Q 3, to IR 2, Q 2.

Keith
549) Message boards : Number crunching : Validate Errors II (Message 682021)
Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Here's one for one of my crunching partners. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=180507924.

Is that correction script still running automatically ?
550) Message boards : Number crunching : Pending Credit..."RE-VISIT" (Message 682015)
Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
BOINCstats for this computer. http://boincstats.com/stats/host_graph.php?pr=sah&id=3232000
551) Message boards : Number crunching : Team Fora right here at the Seti Fora (Message 681707)
Posted 21 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
If you're a member of a Team (any team), I believe you'll now find you have your own little fora right here at the Seti Fora. Just go here and see if it's not true for your team. Boinc Synergy members....I snagged the first post.

:P
I believe you can only see the fora for the team you are a member of. Team founders are moderators (I think)


I wonder how this will work if a Team Founder appears to have gone AWOL.
552) Message boards : Number crunching : New York Times Aricibo article (Message 681555)
Posted 20 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/20/science/space/20scop.html?ref=science

fyi


Thanks for that.

[EDIT]

BTW it's Arecibo not Aricibo.

Keith
553) Message boards : Number crunching : More mobo mayhem........... (Message 681432)
Posted 20 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
...
no email for me for a couple of days (fellow mods please take note). Unless I can get the time to clone my email account on another rig.


Have you ever used Telnet to the mail server ?

There may also be a web based solution, depending on your email provider.
554) Message boards : Number crunching : Front page news: for Nov 19 (Message 681198)
Posted 20 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Any time now ?



AND we're back!!!!


Splitters and Validators are still down. See Latest Tech News and Server status page
555) Message boards : Number crunching : Front page news: for Nov 19 (Message 681183)
Posted 19 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Any time now ?
556) Message boards : Number crunching : Help Needed (Message 681131)
Posted 19 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:

I looked at your Rosetta results http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?hostid=666596. Did you return the results yet?

As the problem is common to more than 1 BOINC project you may have some luck posting to the BOINC Message Boards.

Keith.


There shouldn't be any wu's outstanding on Rosetta. Experienced same problem so detached from project.

I'm no longer crunching for Rosetta because they took over all my systems & s@h didn't get a look in.

Originally a seti classic cruncher & quite happy to just crunch theirs.


Sorry to hear that you had trouble with Rosetta. I think it was probably down to Resource Share (RS) and Long Term Debt (LTD).

I currently have my RS set as follows:

SETI 50
SETI Beta 10
Rosetta 10
LHC 25
RALPH 2.5
Leiden 2.5

When you attach a new project to BOINC the default is 100, but if you add up my RS figures you can see that the total is 100. My Athlon XP runs all 6, my old P233 only runs 4 (does not have enough RAM to run Rosetta or RALPH).

---

When I first looked at your results, and saw the error "- exit code -1073741515 (0xc0000135)", I did a Google search on 1073741515 which returned over 700 results (the top 2 were from SETI and Einsten, both BOINC projects.). I did not have time then to follow up on more than the first few of those, or to try a better search.

I have now tried a few more variations on Google, and other searches. This Einstein@Home thread looks like a promising lead. See also http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=41655&nowrap=true#621756

All the pointers I have got so far look like a missing DLL, possibly mspdb80.dll. It also looks graphics related.

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_search.php did not return any results.

Try a few more searches with variations of your error message, check display drivers are correct and up to date. Try uninstalling BOINC completely, delete BOINC folder, then re-install.

Good Luck, Keith


Try a search on 1073741515 and DLL
557) Message boards : Number crunching : Help Needed (Message 681129)
Posted 19 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:

I looked at your Rosetta results http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?hostid=666596. Did you return the results yet?

As the problem is common to more than 1 BOINC project you may have some luck posting to the BOINC Message Boards.

Keith.


There shouldn't be any wu's outstanding on Rosetta. Experienced same problem so detached from project.

I'm no longer crunching for Rosetta because they took over all my systems & s@h didn't get a look in.

Originally a seti classic cruncher & quite happy to just crunch theirs.


Sorry to hear that you had trouble with Rosetta. I think it was probably down to Resource Share (RS) and Long Term Debt (LTD).

I currently have my RS set as follows:

SETI 50
SETI Beta 10
Rosetta 10
LHC 25
RALPH 2.5
Leiden 2.5

When you attach a new project to BOINC the default is 100, but if you add up my RS figures you can see that the total is 100. My Athlon XP runs all 6, my old P233 only runs 4 (does not have enough RAM to run Rosetta or RALPH).

---

When I first looked at your results, and saw the error "- exit code -1073741515 (0xc0000135)", I did a Google search on 1073741515 which returned over 700 results (the top 2 were from SETI and Einsten, both BOINC projects.). I did not have time then to follow up on more than the first few of those, or to try a better search.

I have now tried a few more variations on Google, and other searches. This Einstein@Home thread looks like a promising lead. See also http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=41655&nowrap=true#621756

All the pointers I have got so far look like a missing DLL, possibly mspdb80.dll. It also looks graphics related.

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_search.php did not return any results.

Try a few more searches with variations of your error message, check display drivers are correct and up to date. Try uninstalling BOINC completely, delete BOINC folder, then re-install.

Good Luck, Keith
558) Message boards : Number crunching : Help Needed (Message 680201)
Posted 18 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:

...

Reattached to Rosetta as Keith suggested but same thing happened there which, led me to believe it could be Boinc.

Quick tip! Once Windows installed, I always install Belarc Advisor after everything is installed, then print it out & keep it in a file for every system. It gives every detail about that system including product keys.

Regards

PJ


I looked at your Rosetta results http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?hostid=666596. Did you return the results yet?

As the problem is common to more than 1 BOINC project you may have some luck posting to the BOINC Message Boards.

Keith.
559) Message boards : Number crunching : Front page news: for Nov 19 (Message 680193)
Posted 18 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
How far ahead/behind GMT is PST?

I'll use the outage to shut dowm several systems & service them.


GMT = UTC

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/utc.php

http://nist.time.gov/

http://nist.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Pacific/d/-8/java
560) Message boards : Number crunching : Welcome to the 9 Year Club (Message 680153)
Posted 18 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My date was May 20, 1999, I'm a lot older and not sure how much wiser... Just started again with SETI October 27 and finally found my old account. It's nice to be able to reclaim credit from the old one.

Congrats to all!


Welcome to the Forums!

Keith.

[EDIT]
You may find this page interesting Old SETI Classic site Some of the links there still work.

Class of May 20 1999
561) Message boards : Number crunching : hostid 4000000 Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC (Message 679377)
Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
As other have noticed # 4000000 has so far only returned 4 Compute error tasks. - exit code -1073741819 (0xc0000005)

The owner is in Japan.

3999999 is in Italy, and has got it's first granted credit 63.98

562) Message boards : Number crunching : hostid 4000000 Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC (Message 679373)
Posted 17 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Unfortunately I was away from my computer yesterday evening. I missed the arrival of hostid=4000000.

It arrived at 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC

hostid 4000000
Owner H.K
Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC
Total Credit 0
Recent average credit 0.00
CPU type AuthenticAMD
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Processor 3800+
Number of CPUs 2
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Home Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00)

hostid 3999999
Owner dietcoke1975
Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:18 UTC
Total Credit 0
Recent average credit 0.00
CPU type GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 11]
Number of CPUs 4
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Professional Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00)
563) Message boards : Number crunching : Help Needed (Message 678881)
Posted 16 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Okay digging a bit more... Not sure if this is it yet, but I have read that the 0xc0000135 error in your results might be due to a missing runtime DLL from either MS visual C Runtime or .Net framework ...

Have you installed dotNet Framework 1.1 or 2 yet?

If either of those things might be the cause then those should be obtainable as a microsoft download... I'll keep looking a bit further in case something other information turns up.

Jason



Thanks Jason. I'm pretty sure it has 1.1/2/3. I'll check & if missing will download.

Again thank you. This rig has been bugging me for weeks!


Just finished checking & downloading on system. It had v2/3 but not v1.1. Downloaded this with the service pack. Reinstalled Boinc which requested repair or modify. Repaired. Will have to wait until tomorrow to see if that cleared the problem as the server won't download any more tasks as that rig has reached its daily quota of 48.

Here's hoping that has cleared the problem. Many thanks for the help & advice guys. It really is appreciated.

Regards

PJ

[Edit] Just in case they might be required, I've downloaded the visual runtime files. [Edit]


As this seems to be a BOINC problem rather than a SETI problem, you could try attaching another project e.g. Rosetta as you already run that.


[EDIT]
SETI Beta would be a good one too if you have the patience to be a Beta Tester
564) Message boards : Number crunching : hostid 4000000 Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC (Message 678880)
Posted 16 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
# 4000000 should arrive today (UTC).

3998999 Created 16 Nov 2007 10:38:17 UTC
3999000 Created 16 Nov 2007 10:39:27 UTC

3999100 Created 16 Nov 2007 11:47:45 UTC

3999121 Created 16 Nov 2007 11:59:33 UTC
3999122 Created 16 Nov 2007 12:02:26 UTC

[EDIT]
3999200 Created 16 Nov 2007 12:59:51 UTC
3999201 Created 16 Nov 2007 13:00:27 UTC

Looks like about 8 hours to go at current rate.


3999300 Created 16 Nov 2007 13:51:49 UTC

3999400 Created 16 Nov 2007 14:46:38 UTC

3999500 Created 16 Nov 2007 15:49:31 UTC
565) Message boards : Number crunching : Help Needed (Message 678869)
Posted 16 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
...

Ideas anyone?


Please could you use [ color=red ] to highlight the relevant part or just post the few lines with the problem.

hostid for the computer would help too.


Sorry Keith. I have tried using the color code in the past but kept messing up.

Anyway, I don't know what the problem is which is why I posted the whole column so someone could see what it is doing.

Again sorry about the id, I forgot. 3999224


BBCode is realy easy once you get used to it. It is a bit like HTML with [ and ] instead of < and >. [/color] is used to close a piece of colored text, [color=red] or [color=blue] etc is used to open it. [b] makes things bold.

I tried a search for the error message you are getting - exit code -1073741515 (0xc0000135)

Try this search http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=1073741515&btnG=Google+Search

BTW the new <Preview> feature is very useful when posting using BBCode

[EDIT]
Changed URL
566) Message boards : Number crunching : Help Needed (Message 678858)
Posted 16 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
...

Ideas anyone?


Please could you use [color=red] to highlight the relevant part or just post the few lines with the problem.

hostid for the computer would help too.
567) Message boards : Number crunching : hostid 4000000 Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC (Message 678794)
Posted 16 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
# 4000000 should arrive today (UTC).

3998999 Created 16 Nov 2007 10:38:17 UTC
3999000 Created 16 Nov 2007 10:39:27 UTC

3999100 Created 16 Nov 2007 11:47:45 UTC

3999121 Created 16 Nov 2007 11:59:33 UTC
3999122 Created 16 Nov 2007 12:02:26 UTC

[EDIT]
3999200 Created 16 Nov 2007 12:59:51 UTC
3999201 Created 16 Nov 2007 13:00:27 UTC

Looks like about 8 hours to go at current rate.
568) Message boards : Number crunching : hostid 4000000 Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC (Message 678615)
Posted 16 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Just found another one that has some sort of problem. It looks like they are not holding on to the tasks for long, but it must be creating extra unnecessary load on the servers. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//hosts_user.php?userid=8515613.

Update on host creation:

3997500 Created 15 Nov 2007 15:03:26 UTC


More Updates:

3998000 Created 15 Nov 2007 20:12:19 UTC

3998500 Created 16 Nov 2007 2:31:09 UTC

------

Just spotted another user with multiple id's http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//hosts_user.php?userid=8737510.
138 hostid's created since 1 Nov with 1 or 2 tasks each. 0.00 credits for each host! Any Chinese speakers want to send this one a PM ?
569) Message boards : Number crunching : hostid 4000000 Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC (Message 678235)
Posted 15 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Just found another one that has some sort of problem. It looks like they are not holding on to the tasks for long, but it must be creating extra unnecessary load on the servers. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//hosts_user.php?userid=8515613.

Update on host creation:

3997500 Created 15 Nov 2007 15:03:26 UTC
570) Message boards : Number crunching : hostid 4000000 Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC (Message 678181)
Posted 15 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
...
I will agree with the guess that those old Katmai P-III CPUs are part of a computer lab where all the machines get a full new 'reinstall' on each reboot.

I would also guess that the s@h WUs never get a chance to finish during one teaching session before the machines get wiped again
...


I had a reply to the PM that I sent to Wayne State College, thanking me for the heads-up. They have cleaned-up most of their duplicate hostid's.

Update on the CountUp to # 400000.

3995000 Created 14 Nov 2007 9:57:39 UTC

3995500 Created 14 Nov 2007 15:42:52 UTC

3996000 Created 14 Nov 2007 19:22:03 UTC

3996500 Created 15 Nov 2007 0:36:50 UTC

3997000 Created 15 Nov 2007 8:32:25 UTC
...
3997250 Created 15 Nov 2007 12:14:47 UTC
571) Message boards : Number crunching : hostid 4000000 Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC (Message 677733)
Posted 14 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
3995555 Created 14 Nov 2007 16:10:21 UTC
572) Message boards : Number crunching : hostid 4000000 Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC (Message 677695)
Posted 14 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
The one I noticed with multiple id's where each host has 0 WUs is less of a problem than one where each id downloads one or more WUs then trashes it. I'm not sure if that is what is happening or not.

Update on id generation, I looked back a little to try to improve my prediction:

3980000 Created 7 Nov 2007 14:14:29 UTC

3981000 Created 7 Nov 2007 23:22:32 UTC

3982000 Created 8 Nov 2007 9:52:30 UTC

3983000 Created 8 Nov 2007 19:05:59 UTC

3984000 Created 9 Nov 2007 6:09:54 UTC

3985000 Created 9 Nov 2007 15:46:47 UTC

3986000 Created 10 Nov 2007 0:43:14 UTC

3987000 Created 10 Nov 2007 14:28:54 UTC

3988000 Created 11 Nov 2007 2:05:11 UTC

3989000 Created 11 Nov 2007 16:38:22 UTC

3990000 Created 12 Nov 2007 4:25:13 UTC

3991000 Created 12 Nov 2007 16:04:37 UTC

3992000 Created 12 Nov 2007 22:49:47 UTC

3993000 Created 13 Nov 2007 8:54:57 UTC

3994000 Created 13 Nov 2007 21:39:19 UTC

3995000 Created 14 Nov 2007 9:57:39 UTC

...

3995300 Created 14 Nov 2007 13:35:21 UTC

3995339 Created 14 Nov 2007 13:59:18 UTC
3995340 Created 14 Nov 2007 14:00:22 UTC

At the current rate of id creation, I think # 4000000 will arrive late on 16 Nov (UTC) or early on 17 Nov (UTC). I expect someone with better math skills than me could make a better prediction than that.
573) Message boards : Number crunching : hostid 4000000 Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC (Message 677645)
Posted 14 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I sent him a pm 11 hours ago or so. no response



Did you write in English or Spanish ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chile#Language

Back to the main topic. hostid=4000000 may arrive today, but I think tomorrow is more likely.


3994999 Created 14 Nov 2007 9:56:11 UTC
3995000 Created 14 Nov 2007 9:57:39 UTC
3995001 Created 14 Nov 2007 9:58:48 UTC

3995010 Created 14 Nov 2007 10:06:34 UTC

3995050 Created 14 Nov 2007 10:36:21 UTC

3995090 Created 14 Nov 2007 11:05:34 UTC

3995099 Created 14 Nov 2007 11:15:39 UTC
3995100 Created 14 Nov 2007 11:15:46 UTC

3995111 Created 14 Nov 2007 11:28:12 UTC
574) Message boards : Number crunching : hostid 4000000 Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC (Message 677414)
Posted 13 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
This user http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//hosts_user.php?userid=8481345 seems to have a lot of computers with only 1 WU each. Some of the recent ones have completed at least one task, so I'm not sure if he has a problem or not.


This one is practically 9 months older than me & I have 6 hosts with a TC of nearly 90K & an rac of 1,400.

Surely with 398 hosts,his totals should at least be 65 times mine?

There has to be a problem with the project surely?


398 in the last 30 days, if you look at All computers he has over 1600.

[EDIT]

3994298 Created 13 Nov 2007 23:59:41 UTC

3994299 Created 14 Nov 2007 0:01:44 UTC
575) Message boards : Number crunching : hostid 4000000 Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC (Message 677398)
Posted 13 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
This user http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//hosts_user.php?userid=8481345 seems to have a lot of computers with only 1 WU each. Some of the recent ones have completed at least one task, so I'm not sure if he has a problem or not.
576) Message boards : Number crunching : hostid 4000000 Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC (Message 677335)
Posted 13 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
3993891 Created 13 Nov 2007 18:01:03 UTC

3993892 Created 13 Nov 2007 21:07:21 UTC

[EDIT]

3993999 Created 13 Nov 2007 21:39:15 UTC

3994000 Created 13 Nov 2007 21:39:19 UTC
577) Message boards : Number crunching : hostid 4000000 Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC (Message 677299)
Posted 13 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Has anyone sent a PM to the owners?
There are currently 3248 computer id's on this account and new ones nearly by the minute.



Not done one yet, but I may do so after the weekly outage, which is due very soon.
578) Message boards : Number crunching : hostid 4000000 Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC (Message 677282)
Posted 13 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
3993799 Created 13 Nov 2007 17:09:40 UTC (Wayne State College again)

3993800 Created 13 Nov 2007 17:10:17 UTC

3993805 Created 13 Nov 2007 17:12:38 UTC (Wayne State College again)

3993815 Created 13 Nov 2007 17:16:38 UTC (Wayne State College again)

3993817 Created 13 Nov 2007 17:18:53 UTC

3993825 Created 13 Nov 2007 17:25:54 UTC

3993827 Created 13 Nov 2007 17:27:09 UTC (Wayne State College again)

3993855 Created 13 Nov 2007 17:42:11 UTC CPU type Cell Cell Broadband Engine

3993881 Created 13 Nov 2007 17:54:59 UTC

3993882 Created 13 Nov 2007 17:56:03 UTC
579) Message boards : Number crunching : hostid 4000000 Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC (Message 677271)
Posted 13 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Some of those new hosts could be the result of problems with the project.

Take this one for instance:NET-2

Had to uninstall boinc, clean system & reinstall. On my account, it had 2 NET-2's, so merged them which provided a new host reference.


I'm sure they are, I gave you a mention as I spotted your name against a new recent hostid.

The one that I saw which seems to have a serious problem is http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//show_user.php?userid=2595 Wayne State College, which has created over 700 new hostids in the last 30 days, with 0 results each.


That is weird. Just looked & they have no tasks downloaded. When I reinstalled mine, it downloaded 6 wu's almost instantly.


As it is a college, I think they probably have a room full of machines with similar spec which get new id's every time they are re-booted.

Most, but not all, the new id's that get created are:

CPU type GenuineIntel Pentium III (Katmai)
Operating System Linux 2.6.16


I thought about sending a PM, but have not done so yet.

[EDIT]
I just noticed that the few machines they have which are getting credit are mostly using old versions of BOINC:

4.19, 4.43, 4.45, 5.4.9
However at least 1 is running 5.10.20
580) Message boards : Number crunching : hostid 4000000 Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC (Message 677260)
Posted 13 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
3993558 Created 13 Nov 2007 15:01:02 UTC


3993715 Created 13 Nov 2007 16:31:03 UTC
581) Message boards : Number crunching : hostid 4000000 Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC (Message 677198)
Posted 13 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Some of those new hosts could be the result of problems with the project.

Take this one for instance:NET-2

Had to uninstall boinc, clean system & reinstall. On my account, it had 2 NET-2's, so merged them which provided a new host reference.


I'm sure they are, I gave you a mention as I spotted your name against a new recent hostid.

The one that I saw which seems to have a serious problem is http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//show_user.php?userid=2595 Wayne State College, which has created over 700 new hostids in the last 30 days, with 0 results each.
582) Message boards : Number crunching : hostid 4000000 Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC (Message 677178)
Posted 13 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//show_host_detail.php?hostid=1 Couldn't find computer

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//show_host_detail.php?hostid=3 Created 2 Jun 2004 9:25:38 UTC

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//show_host_detail.php?hostid=10 Created 3 Jun 2004 13:28:19 UTC

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//show_host_detail.php?hostid=100 Couldn't find computer

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//show_host_detail.php?hostid=1000 Couldn't find computer

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//show_host_detail.php?hostid=10000 Created 23 Jun 2004 23:44:09 UTC

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//show_host_detail.php?hostid=100000 Created 19 Jul 2004 22:49:28 UTC

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//show_host_detail.php?hostid=1000000 Created 30 May 2005 5:43:26 UTC

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//show_host_detail.php?hostid=2000000 Created 23 Dec 2005 17:20:46 UTC

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//show_host_detail.php?hostid=3000000 Created 6 Jan 2007 12:11:27 UTC

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//show_host_detail.php?hostid=3993450 Created 13 Nov 2007 13:59:17 UTC

[EDIT]

3993515 Created 13 Nov 2007 14:29:06 UTC

3993516 Created 13 Nov 2007 14:33:34 UTC

3993555 Created 13 Nov 2007 14:57:45 UTC

3993557 Created 13 Nov 2007 14:58:50 UTC

3993558 Created 13 Nov 2007 15:01:02 UTC
583) Message boards : Number crunching : hostid 4000000 Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC (Message 677152)
Posted 13 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
If I remember correctly, there was one user whose computer erroneously produced new host IDs at a very fast rate (one every few seconds), so the increase of host IDs does not necessarily mean that so many new hosts were attached to the project.


I agree, there are many, many hosts like this. While I have been doing my search for the highest id, I have found a few names with lots of hosts carrying just 1 WU. I also spotted a few names who seem to be trying to get that 4000000 spot!

[EDIT]

This one http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//hosts_user.php?userid=2595&show_all=1&sort=id is particularly worthy of mention!! Warning That page takes a long time to load.
584) Message boards : Number crunching : hostid 4000000 Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC (Message 677150)
Posted 13 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
3993000 Created 13 Nov 2007 8:54:57 UTC

3993099 Created 13 Nov 2007 9:55:40 UTC

3993100 Created 13 Nov 2007 9:55:54 UTC

3993200 Created 13 Nov 2007 11:11:16 UTC

3993300 Created 13 Nov 2007 12:28:19 UTC

3993304 Created 13 Nov 2007 12:29:52 UTC

3993305 Created 13 Nov 2007 12:30:42 UTC

[EDIT]
3993333 Created 13 Nov 2007 12:53:03 UTC

3993348 Created 13 Nov 2007 12:59:56 UTC

3993349 Created 13 Nov 2007 13:00:09 UTC

3993400 Created 13 Nov 2007 13:22:40 UTC

3993402 Created 13 Nov 2007 13:25:07 UTC (Sirius B)

3993410 Created 13 Nov 2007 13:28:26 UTC
585) Message boards : Number crunching : hostid 4000000 Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC (Message 677031)
Posted 13 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
3992425 Created 13 Nov 2007 1:59:06 UTC

3992426 Created 13 Nov 2007 2:00:23 UTC
586) Message boards : Number crunching : hostid 4000000 Created 16 Nov 2007 20:34:22 UTC (Message 676993)
Posted 13 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I predict that 4000000 will arrive in the next 24 - 48 hours.

I got 3001110 on 6 Jan 2007, so that will be over 1000000 new host ids created in less than 1 year.

Highest that I have seen so far is 3992239

[EDIT]
I've been checking and we are now up to 3992377 Created 13 Nov 2007 1:33:47 UTC

3992388 Created 13 Nov 2007 1:39:35 UTC
587) Message boards : Number crunching : Reported to late to validate - 10 hours ? (Message 676991)
Posted 13 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
can someone tell my why this was reported to late to validate ?

I received the WU, and crunched it and reported it within 3 hours and got zero -

error message - too late to validate?


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=657510168



Your host id was created after the task was sent to it !

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3991335

WTF, while I was typing that the host id changed to http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3992239
588) Message boards : Number crunching : Crunching in Chronological Order? (Message 676903)
Posted 12 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Is the system clock correct?

What version of BOINC?

Are prefs override set in Advanced Settings?

% of time BOINC client is running?

While BOINC running, % of time work is allowed?

Average CPU efficiency?

Result duration correction factor?

Other projects?
589) Message boards : Number crunching : LHC@home is back. (Message 676660)
Posted 12 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Website and data servers are back, they even have a few WUs available.

[edit]
Changed Title of thread.
590) Message boards : Number crunching : Your Favourite computing websites (Message 676639)
Posted 12 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
http://www.afterdawn.com is quite good, also http://www.theinquirer.net.

http://whatis.techtarget.com is very useful too.
591) Message boards : Number crunching : Splitter estimates and DCF (Message 676592)
Posted 12 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Keith, the dcf goes down slowly, but will instantly increase if one wu exceeds the predicted time. This is done to prevent overloading of work (atleast attempt to) due to unrealistically low values. It takes about 24 wus for the dcf to correct itself downward. This depends on project, wu consistancy, etc. It's behaved this way since Boinc 4.35 or 4.45 (my memory is fading). The concern is too much work on hand and missed deadlines, so it failsafes to highest value.



Thanks, I had a general idea how it worked.

I try to be very careful if I ever need to edit DCF or any other client_state setting. I once got it wrong and downloaded about 3 times more short WUs than I needed.

MB so far seems to have 2 or 3 main AR groups. 0.40xxxx seems to be the most common recently. As a Beta tester I have read and participated in the SETI Beta forums, so I know this is very much a "work in progress", I am trying to add some constructive suggestions and observations to try to improve SETI.

I only edit DCF rarely, I am trying to maintain an RAC above 100 for SETI, while running 5 other projects as well. I've managed this for over 45 days so far according to BOINCstats. I've found that one of the best ways for me to increase RAC is to have a few days cache in reserve.
592) Message boards : Number crunching : Splitter estimates and DCF (Message 676543)
Posted 12 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
OK, I reported and got credit for my first 2008 WU, a nice 87.77 credits. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=655940433

Task ID 655940433
Name 15fe07ad.16851.21340.4.6.23_0
Workunit 177926293
Created 10 Nov 2007 12:22:27 UTC
Sent 10 Nov 2007 14:03:10 UTC
Received 12 Nov 2007 1:44:42 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Success
Client state Done
Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 3001110
Report deadline 23 Jan 2008 21:50:38 UTC
CPU time 26243.75
stderr out <core_client_version>5.10.7</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>


Optimized SETI@Home Enhanced application
Optimizers: Ben Herndon, Josef Segur, Alex Kan, Simon Zadra
Version: Windows SSE 32-bit based on S@H V5.15 'Noo? No - Ni!'
Revision: R-2.4V|xK|FFT:FFTW3_SSE|Ben-Joe
CPUID: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+
Speed: 1 x 1799 MHz
Cache: L1=64K L2=256K
Features: MMX SSE

Work Unit Info
WU Credit multi. is: 2.85
WU True angle range: 0.309095
Restarted at 8.48 percent.
Restarted at 13.59 percent.
Restarted at 21.25 percent.
Restarted at 31.60 percent.
Restarted at 63.95 percent.
Restarted at 79.56 percent.

Spikes Pulses Triplets Gaussians Flops
2 4 0 2 26603643893931

</stderr_txt>
]]>
Validate state Valid
Claimed credit 87.7715074506228
Granted credit 87.771390389708
application version 5.28

I thought that one was going to go over 7 hours, and it did. 26243.75 seconds = 7:17:23

When I got that WU, I had recently crunched several short ~ 2:20 WUs so my DCF had gone out to ~ 0.6xxxxx. The original estimated crunch time was over 19 hours. I edited the DCF by changing the first decimal digit from a 6 to a 3 which brought the estimated crunch time closer to reality.

It seems strange that I need to do this since the release of multibeam, I don't remember needing to do it before that, but I could be wrong on this.

Maybe I notice this more than the power crunchers who get through well over 20 WUs per day. I rarely get through more than 8, less than 4 per day if they are AR = 0.4xxxxx
593) Message boards : Number crunching : Splitter estimates and DCF (Message 676215)
Posted 11 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Every time I crunch WUs with high AR, my DCF increases to around 0.6xxxxx, it then puts estimated time to completion out to more than double the true time for normal WUs

I can then wait for the DCF to gradually work its way back to 0.3xxxxx OR I can edit the DCF in order to get my cache up to more than 1 WU.

I think the splitter estimates are also part of the reason for the excessively long deadlines.

As I recently posted in another thread, my old P233 MMX made it's Christmas Day deadline with 47 days to spare.

My Athlon XP 2200+ crunches short WUs in around 2hr 20mins. AR 0.40xxxx are usually done in about 6hr30, while a lower AR 0.3xxxxx WU may take closer to 7 hrs.

I've just checked my BoincView logs and of the last 350 results only 21 took longer than 6hr30 and 8 of those were completed inside 6hr45. The highest crunch time was ~7hr39 with another 7 in excess of 7 hours.

I am using an optimized app, but I think the splitter estimate times need checking as this seems to be a major part of the deadline problem.

[edit]
Missed a few words off.
594) Message boards : Number crunching : Ouch don't like boinc 5.10.28 (Message 675338)
Posted 10 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
To sumarise the solutions to the found problems:

1. Buttons may become "greyed out" if no project or task is selected.

Solution. Highlight a task or project, then buttons should become active.

2. Thread originator cannot change thread title.

Solution. Originator needs to make a new post to the thread, not a reply to anyone else's post, you need to click <Post to thread>, at the bottom of the page. After you have made a new post, you can then <Edit> your post for the next hour. This will give you the option to change the thread title.

I have just tested this with this thread.

[edit]
spelling and grammar edits
[/edit]
595) Message boards : Number crunching : LHC@home is back. (Message 675332)
Posted 10 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Thanks for the replies. I have 6 tasks stuck waiting to upload. Just have to be patient until after the w/e.
596) Message boards : Number crunching : No Work from SETI? (Message 674690)
Posted 9 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Well, it says it is slow but I haven't received a unit since yesterday around noon and I am completely out now. The last several requests simply say "Reason:No work from project"

Should I be looking at my configuration or something?


You can add one (or more) other BOINC projects to your setup so that your computer is not idle while SETI is out of work.

In BOINC Manager click on <Tools> then <Attach to project...> then <Next>. You see a list of other BOINC projects to choose from. If you click on the <WWW> link it will take you to that projects home page, so that you can see what the other projects are about.

When you attach to a new project, the default Resource Share (RS) is 100, so if you have SETI on RS 100 and add a second project they would both have 50% share. If you want your other projects to have a lower share, you need to edit the RS for each project.

You can also look at http://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php and hover your mouse over the project name for a few seconds a small pop-up appears that will tell you a little about each of the projects listed.

If you want to see a list with more projects, try here.

Some projects e.g. climateprediction.net (CPDN) have very large WorkUnits, and take a long time to run. Others are often out of work e.g. LHC and RALPH, or only send out a batch once a month.

I am currently attached to 6 projects on one PC, 4 on the other one, see my Sig for details.
597) Message boards : Number crunching : Validate errors: Are we getting paid? (Message 674611)
Posted 9 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I've finally gotten around to making a script that mostly works at repairing the Validate errors. It's very expensive in terms of searching the database, so it'll only be run once a day or so.

There seem to be some fraction of validate errors that the script doesn't fix. So there's still some work to do on it.

Eric



This is fine for repairing the damage after it happens.

Is there a fix in for the validation errors to stop them from happening?



Eric, Thanks for working on this. I have not been hit by any of the current round of problems, but have had my share in the past.

Some other BOINC projects use a deferral time every time a client contacts the scheduler.

The ones that I am aware of are:

LHC@home 909 seconds = 15 minutes 15 seconds
Rosetta@home 242 seconds = 4 minutes 2 seconds
RALPH@home 242 seconds = 4 minutes 2 seconds
Leiden Classical 181 seconds = 3 minutes 1 seconds

If SETI implemented somthing like this instead of the current:

11 seconds for SETI
7 seconds for SETI Beta

It might improve things a bit.

Is it difficult to change these settings at the server side?

LHC have changed their deferral time several times over the last few weeks from about 1 hour, then ~ 30 minutes, to the current 15 minutes.
598) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (5) Server Problems! (Message 674188)
Posted 8 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Not at Panic Mode Red yet, more like panic mode mauve. Downloads are getting stuck, and the Cricket Graphs are showing fairly high traffic for the last few hours.


08/11/2007 16:09:50|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 03mr07ag.22828.11933.10.6.87: system connect
08/11/2007 16:09:50|SETI@home|Backing off 2 hr 50 min 45 sec on download of file 03mr07ag.22828.11933.10.6.87
08/11/2007 16:09:50||[file_xfer_debug] PERS_FILE_XFER::poll(): file transfer status -107
08/11/2007 16:09:50|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Temporarily failed download of 03mr07ag.23478.11115.11.6.205: system connect
08/11/2007 16:09:50|SETI@home|Backing off 42 min 33 sec on download of file 03mr07ag.23478.11115.11.6.205
08/11/2007 16:09:50|SETI@home|[file_xfer] Started download of file 03mr07ag.22828.11933.10.6.134
08/11/2007 16:09:50||[file_xfer_debug] PERS_FILE_XFER::start_xfer(): URL: http://boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah/download_fanout/278/03mr07ag.22828.11933.10.6.134
08/11/2007 16:09:51||Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.


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599) Message boards : Number crunching : Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year !! (Message 674150)
Posted 8 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
OK, The P233 MMX completed it's Christmas deadline task sucessfully, with only 47 days to spare!

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=648028786

Task ID 648028786
Name 11fe07aa.24089.13978.7.6.100_1
Workunit 174233149
Created 30 Oct 2007 10:07:23 UTC
Sent 31 Oct 2007 1:28:53 UTC
Received 8 Nov 2007 2:36:05 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Success
Client state Done
Exit status 0 (0x0)
Computer ID 3066425
Report deadline 25 Dec 2007 6:38:01 UTC
CPU time 447069

stderr out <core_client_version>5.10.28</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Optimized SETI@Home Enhanced application

Optimizers: Ben Herndon, Josef Segur, Alex Kan, Simon Zadra
Version: Windows MMX 32-bit based on seti V5.15 'Ni!'
Rev: (R-2.4|PX|FFT:IPP_MMX|Ben-Joe)
CPUID: 'Intel P1m Pentium-MMX (P55C)'
cpus: 1 cores: 1 threads: 1 cache: L1=16K L2=0K L3=0K
features: mmx
speed: 233 MHz -- read megs/sec: L1=616, L2=0, RAM=167

Work Unit Info
True angle range: 0.392062

...
[snipped lots of re-starts as it was running alongside several other WUs for other projects]
...

Spikes Pulses Triplets Gaussians Flops
0 1 1 0 22257685819405

</stderr_txt>
]]>
Validate state Valid
Claimed credit 73.4358849366934
Granted credit 73.4182447233131

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

One of it's previous WU is still waiting for the quorum to be met since 24 October. See http://boincstats.com/stats/host_graph.php?pr=sah&id=3066425 for more.

The P233 is also attached to 3 other projects, it has completed 5 tasks since 30 October, 2 for LHC, 2 for SETI and 1 for Leiden. Its currently only working on a SETI Beta task that also has a deadline of 25 December. Just reached 20% Progress, after 32 hours 20 mins CPU time.

I still think that if a P233 can make a deadline with 47 days to spare that the deadlines are too long. I think a reasonable deadline would be about 28 or 31 days.
600) Message boards : Number crunching : Non-redundant results are redundant? (Message 673910)
Posted 8 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
This WU of mine used to have someone else assigned to it. Now, suddenly, it shows that my former "wingman" had the result declared as redundant and as of this writing has a result waiting to be sent out.

Berkeley, there is a problem.......

Brian


Look at the date the host was created ! 7 Nov 2007 22:49:06 UTC after the WU was sent 7 Nov 2007 22:48:25 UTC
601) Message boards : Number crunching : Validate Errors II (Message 673457)
Posted 7 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
AFAIK, Validate Errors are always a server problem.


This is not usually the case. Something is happening at their end to cause this rash of validate errors, but generally, validate errors are caused by the users host not performing the calculations correctly. (heat problems, bad overclock, iffy memory, etc)


Sorry Tony but I totally disagree with that.

Compute errors are caused by the things that you mentioned.

Validate errors are caused when the Validator has a problem.

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602) Message boards : Number crunching : Validate Errors II (Message 673455)
Posted 7 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I just got this one don't know why, maybe a server problem?
...


AFAIK, Validate Errors are always a server problem.

If you look at http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/explain_state.php?field=result_outcome they are explained there.

"Validate error The task was reported but could not be validated, typically because the output files were lost on the server."

BTW, AFAIK = as far as I know, BTW = by the way.

I think we need a glossary somewhere to help new users and those whose first language is not English.


Quoting my own post here as I think I should add this:

Some BOINC Client versions are "more prone" to getting VEs than others. Those which "Report Results Immediately" (RRI). Also I think some of the earlier varients of ver. 5.9 and 5.10 if the Connect Interval (CI) is set too low. Back in June, Joe Segur suggested setting a minimum CI of 0.001 days (86.4 seconds).

I am still using BOINC 5.10.7 with a CI of 0.007 days = 604.8 seconds, or just over 10 minutes.

Some of the latest BOINC versions, since 5.10.14 have updated scheduler code that I think ignores low CI settings. I could be wrong on this, but I seem to remember 5.10.14 being the one where this changed.
603) Message boards : Number crunching : Validate Errors II (Message 673423)
Posted 7 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I just got this one don't know why, maybe a server problem?
...


AFAIK, Validate Errors are always a server problem.

If you look at http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/explain_state.php?field=result_outcome they are explained there.

"Validate error The task was reported but could not be validated, typically because the output files were lost on the server."

BTW, AFAIK = as far as I know, BTW = by the way.

I think we need a glossary somewhere to help new users and those whose first language is not English.
604) Message boards : Number crunching : 3. WU, cancelled by server? (Message 673414)
Posted 7 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I thought these were probably the result of the validation errors, but this WU of a wingman of mine makes me wonder what the real deal is:

WU 174341822

You'll note that the "Redundant Result" is given to the system that was on the original replication... In fact, it was the first host to be sent the result.
Edit: As of right now, the WU has 3 resultIDs. Two are in progress, with the "0" replication being the result that was declared redundant.

What up wit dat?


Take a look at the Tasks/Results for the host http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3968753 that had that "Redundant Result" starting around offset 80 and going though to around offset 140.

This host has had several blocks of Redundant result, Cancelled by server over the last few days. It is an Anonymous created 2 Nov 2007 0:27:45 UTC, but the oldest WU for that host was sent 30 Aug 2007 12:38:13 UTC. Definitely something strange happening with that computer.

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605) Message boards : Technical News : Köhntarkösz (Nov 06 2007) (Message 673192)
Posted 6 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Thanks for the update Matt. The observation about the outage times was not intended as a complaint, it was just that I noticed it during the week when Europe and the USA were out of sync on their TZ differences.

Keith.
606) Message boards : Technical News : Slow News Day (Nov 05 2007) (Message 673174)
Posted 6 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Several new threads in the Forums over the last few days have a common link, an error message that includes a reference to setifiler1

A Forum Search on "setifiler1" will reveal many unusual errors over the last 5 or 6 days, about the same time that many new validate errors have occured. Is this a co-incidence?

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607) Message boards : Number crunching : What's with the pendings? (Message 673136)
Posted 6 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I don' understand why I have so many pendings. Can anyone tell me why I keep getting them? I update everyday, once a day when I get home, but the pendings keep staking up. Sometimes I get credit after a task is complete, sometimes all i see is "pending." no compute errors or anything. the taks were successful. can anyone help?
-jrt


Welcome to SETI, I see this is your first post.

I just took a look at your Results/Tasks list. The pendings are nothing to worry about, they will get get credited when the quorum partner turns in their result. SETI needs 2 valid results on the same WorkUnit (WU) before credit is granted.

I did notice that you have a few Compute errors. These may be something to worry about if they occur frequently.
One of them had
SETI@home error -1 Can't create file -- disk full?
in checkpoint()
File: ../seti.cpp
Line: 400

Is your drive short of space?
608) Message boards : Number crunching : Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year !! (Message 673122)
Posted 6 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
The P233's Xmas WU has now passed 80% complete. 80% occured 90 seconds before 100 hours. BOINC's estimated time to complete is around 28.5 hours, but the seconds are counting down at a rate of 4 or 5 per clock second.

The PC only has 2 tasks currently, SETI (RS 50), SETI Beta (RS 10). LHC (RS 25) is currently out of work, Leiden has a fairly large LTD as I recently reduced it's RS to 2.5
609) Message boards : Number crunching : 3. WU, cancelled by server? (Message 673115)
Posted 6 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//workunit.php?wuid=175084770
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//workunit.php?wuid=175570005
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//workunit.php?wuid=174786552


What's going wrong here?
I thought only 2 WUs will send out?



I think it is linked to the Validation Problems, Dr. Eric Korpela has corrected many of the validate errors, however some extra Results were created when the failures occured, some of these may get cancelled if they have not been started before the next scheduler activity.
610) Message boards : Number crunching : Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year !! (Message 673021)
Posted 6 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:

My P233 is currently attached to 4 projects:
SETI Resource Share 50
SETI Beta Resource Share 10
LHC@home Resource Share 25
Leiden Classical Resource Share 2.5

It currently has work for 3 of these, closest deadline is tomorrow but it should make it without problems as that WU is currently 99.303% complete and Waiting to run.
It's other 2 WUs are both due on Christmas Day.
SETI main is now up to 64.3% complete after ~ 81.5 hours.
SETI Beta has only done 4.75% @ just under 8 hours so far.


That Leiden WU made it's deadline OK, It reported nearly 10 hours before deadline. The P233's current SETI task is now up to 76.5% after 96.5 hours crunching, and an estimated 35 hours to complete.
611) Message boards : Number crunching : The Validation Shuffle..... (Message 673006)
Posted 6 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I just took a look at "who?'s" http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3884485.

He has some new ones since midnight UTC today:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=649215897 Claimed credit 73.7089899830414
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=649209571 Claimed credit 73.5953948091667
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=649153705 Claimed credit 51.7147646499055
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=649152763 Claimed credit 63.9782292366492
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=649050150 Claimed credit 51.6878748674222
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=649030446 Claimed credit 51.7252932338542
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=648893577 Claimed credit 51.6938227338316
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=648888741 Claimed credit 51.7250489008648
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=648880989 Claimed credit 51.7221181623192
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=648879115 Claimed credit 51.721928852622

Also at least 1 left from the last few days:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=647179636 Claimed credit 63.9782288567152

612) Message boards : Number crunching : setifiler1 (Message 672700)
Posted 5 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Several new threads over the last few days have a common link.

An error message that includes a reference to setifiler1. Are the project staff on top of this ?, and could it be linked to some of the other recent occurances ?

A Forum Search on "setifiler1" will reveal many unusual errors over the last 5 days, about the same time that many new validate errors have occured. This could be a co-incidence, but it may not be.

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613) Message boards : Number crunching : Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year !! (Message 672642)
Posted 5 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Long deadlines make use of PCs with only small % of CPU time dedicated to BOINC. So it's not nessesary old and slow CPUs who may miss deadline, shouldn't forget about this ;)
So as long as server database can afford increase in size to hold many unfinished WUs long deadlines are good IMHO :)

I agree. The deadline is intended to represent what can be accomplished with a machine having a Whetstone MIPS rating of 33.3 and crunching S@H 24/7. That would also match:

100 WMIPS crunching 3 projects 24/7.
1000 WMIPS crunching 30 projects 24/7.
3000 WMIPS crunching 30 projects an average of 8 hours per day.
2000 WMIPS crunching 2 projects an average of 24 minutes per day.
                                                                 Joe


My P233 is currently attached to 4 projects:
SETI Resource Share 50
SETI Beta Resource Share 10
LHC@home Resource Share 25
Leiden Classical Resource Share 2.5

It currently has work for 3 of these, closest deadline is tomorrow but it should make it without problems as that WU is currently 99.303% complete and Waiting to run.
It's other 2 WUs are both due on Christmas Day.
SETI main is now up to 64.3% complete after ~ 81.5 hours.
SETI Beta has only done 4.75% @ just under 8 hours so far.

BOINC version was recently updated to 5.10.28

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I have resisted the temptation to fiddle with BOINC buttons to get that Leiden WU complete, its currently @ -25,185 Short Term Debt, Waiting to run, according to BoincView, but time to complete is estimated @ 12 mins 58 seconds.
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614) Message boards : Number crunching : LHC@home is back. (Message 672564)
Posted 5 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
LHC@home servers have been unreachable for the last 16 hours or so according to Scarecrow's pages. Anyone know what is wrong. I've tried pinging lhcathome.cern.ch

ping lhcathome.cern.ch

Pinging hepboinc.ph.qmul.ac.uk [138.37.50.115] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 138.37.50.115: bytes=32 time=214ms TTL=51
Reply from 138.37.50.115: bytes=32 time=210ms TTL=51
Reply from 138.37.50.115: bytes=32 time=174ms TTL=51
Reply from 138.37.50.115: bytes=32 time=215ms TTL=51

Ping statistics for 138.37.50.115:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 174ms, Maximum = 215ms, Average = 203ms

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615) Message boards : Number crunching : Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year !! (Message 672543)
Posted 5 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
And a happy Valentine's Day to you!

Edit: Looks like the wingman might finally reach it today, so for posterity:
648964319 3751792 1 Nov 2007 3:22:49 UTC 2 Nov 2007 8:05:53 UTC Over Success Done 9,828.84 111.14 pending
648964320 3221936 1 Nov 2007 7:25:53 UTC 14 Feb 2008 1:06:56 UTC In Progress Unknown New --- --- ---


Thanks Richard, I thought I has seen some reports of 2008 deadlines appearing already. Has anyone got one later than this yet ?
616) Message boards : Number crunching : Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year !! (Message 672542)
Posted 5 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:

...
Just for fun I may install SETI on an old P100 laptop that is in the back of a cupboard, I don't think it would have too many problems with the current deadlines !


Potential "wingmen" can breathe a sigh of releif. The P100 booted OK (last switched on in April 2006), but it only has 16 MB RAM.

P233 has now passed 59% on it's Xmas WU and should finish around the 8th of this month according to BoincView estimate.
617) Message boards : Number crunching : Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year !! (Message 672510)
Posted 5 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My Athlon XP has recently completed 4 WUs with a deadline of 25th Dec '07. It's just reported one with a 31 December deadline. I think others have already seen WUs with 2008 deadlines. Do we really need deadlines this long ?

Meanwhile my old P233 MMX is crunching away on a Christmas WU which should be done by the middle of this week. It's already over 57.5 % done after just over 75 hours. It's still got a pending that took ~ 8 days to crunch, that was reported on 24th October. That one will time out on my birthday, 11th December.

I know a few are still using hardware slower than a P233 MMX, but there can't be many.

Just for fun I may install SETI on an old P100 laptop that is in the back of a cupboard, I don't think it would have too many problems with the current deadlines !
618) Message boards : Number crunching : returning again (Message 671609)
Posted 3 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I used to run the seti program several years back and I was wondering if I could get credit back for that. email is different now than it was then so I had to sign up again....

Dale Woodard


Welcome Back.

Check out these pages http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic.php and http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/classpages/ they may help.

Regards, Keith
619) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC 5.10.28 (Message 671148)
Posted 2 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Astro, Thanks for the info. Where would we be without you?


Well you could read the BOINC versions Change Log thread over on the BOINC website :-)

However I know this forum gets a lot more readers than the BOINC message boards, so thanks Tony for posting that here too.
620) Message boards : Number crunching : Validate Errors II (Message 671144)
Posted 2 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I just started receiving these the other day. Never saw one before.

I have a question for those of you getting these: Are any of you overclocking your processors? I just installed a q6600 about a week ago. Not happy with the RAC I was getting out of it, I bumped it to 3GHz. I let it run prime95 overnight to make sure it was stable, and came back with no errors. Started SETI back up, and that is when I started to get the validate errors. Could it be the S@H client is more finicky to OC'ing than, well, everything else I use?


AFAIK it has nothing to do with overclocking.

Validate Errors occur when the validator process on the server cannot find the result after it has been reported.

Some versions of BOINC are more prone to getting them than others e.g. custom versions which report results immediately and earlier varients of the 5.9 and 5.10 series, particularly if CI is set to 0 or a very low value.
621) Message boards : Number crunching : Validate Errors II (Message 671142)
Posted 2 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Does posting the links here for these validate failure reports work help in getting credit or is this just a "I feel better now cause I complained" thread?
...

Thanks.....


Eric has manually granted credit on SETI Beta in the past, but I don't know about main SETI.

There seem to have been a lot of these over the last couple of days, so now would be a good time to try to get them credited, before the results complete quorum, and get purged about 24 hours later.

I suggest that it would also be a good idea to quote the claimed credit for each result posted to this thread.
622) Message boards : Number crunching : why the deadlines are so long (Message 671107)
Posted 2 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
As the owner of one of the slower hosts, let me throw my 2c in.

I currently have a P233 MMX with 128MB RAM running 24/7. It recently acheived over 48 days uptime running Windows 98 SE.

This machine currently has a pending credit since 24 Oct for a WU which it crunched in a little over 8 days. It will time out on my birthday, 11 Dec if my co-cruncher (wingman) has lost it. I've just checked their results and discovered that they are running BOINC ver 4.25 as well!

So do the deadlines need to be reduced, YES. How much, I'm not sure. 8 days seems about right for the short WUs. I think 28 or 31 days sounds like a fairly good ballpark figure to aim for for the longer, higher credit WUs. Maybe as much as 6 weeks for exceptional cases, like the occasional 100+ credit WUs.

28 days or a month seems a reasonable time to wait to be "paid". Many people are paid their wages or salary on a 4 weekly or monthly basis. I am aware that I can't spend my credits anywhere, but there is a lot of psychology in this credit process!!
623) Message boards : Number crunching : Who? optimizations Part 2 (Message 670700)
Posted 1 Nov 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
...
I got so much pending units! come on guys! keep up.

who?


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=3884485 has also suffered quite a few Validate Errors today.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=173957497
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=173926675
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=173875941
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=173857483
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=173852354
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=173833421
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=173833326
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=173535908
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=173617941
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=173617850
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=173617715
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=173615568
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=173546794

You may get credit for these if you are lucky.

I noticed that the Validate Errors II thread also has a few new posts today. Signs of a new server side problem ??

You can probably avoid further Validate Errors by not reporting results immediately. Leave at least 5 - 10 minutes before reporting.

624) Message boards : Number crunching : Website outage message wrong by ~ 90 minutes. (Message 669963)
Posted 31 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Well....UTC is UTC. Berkely is wise to use it for a standard, as there are users in all parts of the world, and UTC does not change for Daylight Savings Time or any other local variances. If they want to start the outage at a different local time, then perhaps an update to the messages or webpage code is in order to state when they are going to schedule the Tuesday outage in UTC terms.
In any case, it is not a big deal for users who stay in touch with the project on a regular basis.
They know that every Tuesday there will be an outage for a few hours.
But in the interest of being accurate, perhaps the reference to UTC could be updated.


Thanks Mark, I knew that UTC is not changed by DST. UTC is now the local time zone in the UK, Republic of Ireland, Portugal, possibly also some parts of west Africa, some Atlantic islands and Iceland.

I just moticed that my version of MS Windows XP still refers to UTC as GMT. Many older people in this country will still refer to GMT, but I think UTC is the correct term to use for local time zone.

GMT = Greenwich Mean Time
UTC = Coordinated Universal Time
DST = Daylight Saving Time
BST = British Summer Time
UK = England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland
625) Message boards : Number crunching : Website outage message wrong by ~ 90 minutes. (Message 669578)
Posted 30 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
This may belong better in the Web site forum, but this one gets more readers !

I noticed this today, but I think it has been wrong for a few months. My local time changed back to UTC last Sunday.

Weekly Outage Notice: Every Tuesday around 18:00 UTC we will have a short outage to back up our database. The data servers and most web pages are offline during this time. The outage lasts 3-4 hours, and then there is a long period of "catch up" afterwards as the servers are swamped with backlogged requests.

The outages usually start around 16:30 UTC, maybe that message could be corrected to make it more accurate please.

Thanks, Keith
626) Message boards : Number crunching : Process time increase (Message 667657)
Posted 27 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
When I first started using bonic the WU took about 1:40. They went to around 4 hours then to 5 now around 7 hours to complete. The WU size are still the same around 367k so way is it taking longer to procees them? I am switching to Climate Prediction every hour but even with it suspended for a week Seti WU still take over 5 hours, much longer than at first. Do I need to change a setting somewhere?
Thanks
Mike


You could use an Optimized SETI Application. I'm not sure which one would be best for for your CPU GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Celeron(R) D CPU 3.20GHz [x86 Family 15 Model 6 Stepping 4]
.

If you download CPU-Z http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php and post the results then somone here should be able to point you to the best Optimized App.

627) Message boards : Number crunching : What to make of this one? (Message 667586)
Posted 27 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
BOINCstats provides a little more infomation. http://boincstats.com/stats/host_graph.php?pr=sah&id=444675. It appears that this host switches between SETI and Einstein@Home at fairly regular intervals. Looks like he may download a bunch of work, process it, then reconnect again.
628) Message boards : Number crunching : LHC@home is back. (Message 666951)
Posted 26 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Another batch was released today.

Quota is now 4 per CPU per day.

If you want an extra BOINC project to add, now would be a good time to join LHC.
629) Message boards : Number crunching : Process starter software (Message 666928)
Posted 26 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Please don't forget this http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/info.php


Run SETI@home only on authorized computers

Run SETI@home only on computers that you own, or for which you have obtained the owner's permission. Some companies and schools have policies that prohibit using their computers for projects such as SETI@home
630) Message boards : Number crunching : Why pending credit takes so long? (Message 665085)
Posted 23 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I think we need a new STICKY THREAD. Something like READ THIS - Validation Process, Credit Granting and PENDING. Which would explain as simply as possible. It should use simple terminology, be understanable by people whose first language is not English etc.

It should also be a locked thread so the good information does not get lost by a low signal/noise ratio. Any takers ?

Although I understand the phrase "wingman" I prefer "quorum partner" or "crunching partner". Can anyone else suggest a better alternative which would be understandable to those without a military background ?

K.
631) Message boards : Technical News : Monday (Oct 22 2007) (Message 665026)
Posted 23 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
...
I updated some splitter maintenance code, so that's why all the green dots disappeared from the server status page. I'll fix that eventually. ...

- Matt


How about splitting the splitter history into something like http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/calendar/calendar.html ? Keith

[edit]
could you also take a look at http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/client_types.php as well sometime please ?
632) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc 5.10.24 (Message 664991)
Posted 23 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Not running 5.10.24 (still on 5.10.7 and 5.8.15 here).

I just checked http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php and 5.10.26 is now in testing for Windows & Mac.

Changelog is here.
633) Questions and Answers : Web site : No previous results in result list... Old results are being erased continually (Message 664301)
Posted 22 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
John had dyslexia that day.
http://www.boincview.amanheis.ed should be
http://www.boincview.amanheis.de


Sorry but that link is still wrong. BoincView can be found at http://boincview.amanheis.de/.
634) Message boards : Number crunching : Merging Threads ? (Message 663156)
Posted 20 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Sorry to start another new thread, but in the last 15 minutes 2 new threads have appeared on the same subject, Pending Credit.

Is there a means for moderators to merge threads, when several are created on the same subject?

[edit]
Just did a Forum search. In the last 30 days we have had 14 new threads with pending as one of the keywords in the thread title. 12 in NC, 1 in the Cafe and 1 in Wish List. I'm sure some of these duplicate others.

[/rant]
[/edit]
635) Questions and Answers : Web site : Very Old Credits (Message 661915)
Posted 18 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Bill, SETI@home started in 1999. See http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/classpages/ for more information.

You may want to edit your post to obfuscate your email addresses or you may end up on some spammers mailing lists. e.g. user at domain dot suffix
636) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI Beta site 404 Not Found (Message 660759)
Posted 16 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Thanks for pointing this out. This is now fixed. One of the replacement web servers wasn't config'ed right, so half the requests (randomly distributed between two servers) were breaking.

- Matt


Thanks Matt, Working now.

Keith
637) Message boards : Number crunching : SETI Beta site 404 Not Found (Message 660671)
Posted 16 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
http://setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta/ has gone AWOL. Usually during backup/outages the data driven pages are unavailable. This time I get the message:


Not Found
The requested URL /beta/ was not found on this server.

Apache/1.3.39 Server at setiweb.ssl.berkeley.edu Port 80
638) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (5) Server Problems! (Message 658933)
Posted 13 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:

Nothing worth panicing over, but the network traffic for the last 24hours has been quite interesting.

Yeah, what's that rhythmic spike???


Graphs for gigabitethernet2_3 (bits)
Graphs for gigabitethernet2_3 (packets)
Scarecrows Graphs 48h

I think that gives the answer. Splitters are runnining on some sort of cycle every 2 - 4 hours.

K.
639) Message boards : Number crunching : Bigger work buffer (Message 658595)
Posted 12 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
According to BOINC Stats that host does occasionally return a valid WU.

http://boincstats.com/stats/host_graph.php?pr=sah&id=2415609

Why is it hoarding so many? I can't work out if this is being done accidentally or deliberately !
640) Message boards : Number crunching : LHC@home is back. (Message 658380)
Posted 12 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
LHC@home has some new WUs at the moment.

They have a new policy to only allow 1 WU per host per hour so if you have tried to get work from LHC before without success you may have more luck now.

Regards, Keith

{EDIT}
There is also a temporary limit of 2 WUs per CPU per day. See the LHC news and message boards for more.
{/EDIT}
641) Message boards : Technical News : Back from Kiwiland (Oct 08 2007) (Message 657329)
Posted 10 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Any chance you're going to share your vacation pictures with us?


Take a look at http://picasaweb.google.com/jenyabel/NewZealandSepOct2007. I found that link from Matt's personal blog.

Keith
642) Message boards : Number crunching : How many BOINC projects have a screen saver? (Message 656999)
Posted 10 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Projects that I run:

SETI, Yes
SETI Beta, Yes
Rosetta, Yes (very nice screensaver)
RALPH, Not Sure (probably the same as Rosetta)
Leiden Classical, Yes
LHC, Yes (I think the SS is not related to the WU being crunched)

BTW I don't run the Screen Savers much but it is nice ocassionally.
643) Questions and Answers : Web site : Display State as well as Country. (Message 656755)
Posted 9 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
When I click on someone's name it usually tells me what country they are in, but if this is USA it would be nice to know what State as well.

Could this be an optional extra field that could be added to the public information?

I am aware that people can add more detail in a profile, but what I am suggesting is in adition to the profile.

Obviously this would need to be a opt-in choice, but the country is optional too and most people complete that field.
644) Questions and Answers : Web site : Are there more server errors ? (Message 656744)
Posted 9 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
See the Tech News and Number Crunching forums for more information.

The database server(s) were filling up with completed results so the project staff have temporarily suspended database access while they run a cleanup process.

Things should hopefully retun to normal on in the next few hours.

Server status page
http://bluenorthernsoftware.com/scarecrow/sahstats/index.html is a 3rd party site with graphs.
24h 48h and 7day show what has been happening recently.
645) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (5) Server Problems! (Message 656509)
Posted 8 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
See the latest Tech News. Matt is back from vacation and is shutting down data transfers for some housekeeping.

Front Page also has some news.
646) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (5) Server Problems! (Message 656316)
Posted 8 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Mauve Alert, Purple Alert

Workunits waiting for validation 19,696 1m
Transitioner backlog (hours) 5 31m

Most of the sevrer trends are going in a bad direction !

At least it is not a Friday.

Hopefully the lab staff will be in soon to sort things out.
647) Message boards : Number crunching : 2 successes, no validation, no extra task sent??? (Message 656235)
Posted 8 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Server status page
[As of 8 Oct 2007 13:00:10 UTC]
Workunits waiting for validation 9,271 21m

EDIT

[As of 8 Oct 2007 13:10:10 UTC]
Workunits waiting for validation 10,492 1m

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_status.html

Validators are a bit overworked at the moment. It should go though in a few hours. Better to have this than "Validate errors".

Also see "Scarecrow's graphs" http://bluenorthernsoftware.com/scarecrow/sahstats/48.html
648) Message boards : Number crunching : Downsizing my cache to hopefully help pendings (Message 655174)
Posted 6 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
3 days should be enough for most people with a regular internet connection. I currently have 0.007 days CI (~10 minutes) with 2.5 days additional. BOINC ver. 5.10.7

Just watch out for DCF getting messed up by unusual WUs. I have had to edit my DCF a few times when something screwed it up.

The last time I ran out of SETI work was in May when Thumper died.
649) Message boards : Number crunching : Crazy Credit Claimed (Message 655031)
Posted 6 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:

That is right, 17 followed by 'quadtrillon' twice. A quadtrillion has 5 sets of three numbers. Our number is 17, followed by ten sets of three numbers.

Although it might be a european 'quadtrillon'.


No - quadtrillion is a misspelling for quadrillion.

17,009,243,529,295,200,565,037,795,115,008 is ~17 nonillion.

1,000,000 million
1,000,000,000 billion
1,000,000,000,000 trillion
1,000,000,000,000,000 quadrillion
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 quintillion
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 hexillion
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 heptillion
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 octillion
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 nonillion
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 decillion
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 unodecillion
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 duodecillion
etc...
no zillions!


See the following pages for more on these "number names":

http://www.sizes.com/numbers/big_numName.htm
http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/large.html
http://g42.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=BigNumbers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quintillion
650) Message boards : Number crunching : Rounding Off Displayed Credits (Message 654470)
Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
In all the posts about this issue of credit rounding, I have yet to hear any explanation from the moderators/admins regarding this decision to round credit statistics.


It won't be from a moderator as they are volunteer members of the SETI "public".

I have not seen anything from a member of the project staff about this.

Matt L. has been very quiet for the last 14 days. Where are you Matt?

I was hoping that this was a temporary "glitch" in the web page code, but it has now changed on SETI Beta as well, a few days after it changed on main SETI.
651) Message boards : Number crunching : CLOSED**** SETI/BOINC Milestones [tm] XI ****CLOSED (Message 654441)
Posted 5 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
When my stuck uploads get through, I should have reached 50,000 total BOINC Credit.

I have also recently hit the following milestones:

Top 100,000 global SETI users (25-09-2007)
Total SETI credit 30,000 (26-09-2007)
Number 100 for signup date. Today.
3rd position in my team by RAC. Last few days, but under pressure from Fozzieb and Simon F
10th postion in my team by Total Credit (29-09-2007)

I should pass 10,000 Total Credit for SETI Beta today.
Also 300 message board posts !

652) Message boards : Cafe SETI : Sputnik 1 launched 4 October 1957 (Message 653682)
Posted 3 Oct 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
50 years ago, just over 1 year before I was born.

If you were around then, what do you remember about it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_1
653) Message boards : Number crunching : XP - Extended Life (Message 651404)
Posted 30 Sep 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:

Well, you know about the urban legend that HP gives printers away below cost so they can make their money on the ink........

No kidding! I bought a Lexmark printer/scanner/fax/copier combo for $59 and found out that the replacement ink cartridges for it cost $65! Just recently found inkjet printers at a local department store for $29 so that looks like the way to go! Buy a new printer and when it runs out of ink just toss it and buy another! Looked into an ink cartridge refill kit but until recently I couldn't find one for my printer. Finally found one for my Lexmark printer but I have left the cartridges out in my workshop over the winter so all of them have frozen and cracked the case. Gonna have to pay the $65 for new cartridges before I can use the refill kit! Looks like everything is going disposable nowadays!


You could try this company http://www.cartridgeworldusa.com/. I have used the British version many times http://www.cartridgeworld.org/.
654) Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (5) Server Problems! (Message 650988)
Posted 29 Sep 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
At least 3 days cache here. Closest deadline is 5 Oct, and that one is complete waiting to upload (Beta).

I've just suspended Network Activity and will check the Cricket graphs every few hours.

I think about 3 days is probably optimum cache size.

If you've run out of SETI work, try another project as backup e.g. Rosetta, Leiden, Einstein etc. More projects here.

[EDIT]
I have SETI main on 50% resource share with all my other projects (including SETI Beta) sharing the other 50%
[/EDIT]
655) Message boards : Number crunching : CLOSED**** SETI/BOINC Milestones [tm] XI ****CLOSED (Message 648540)
Posted 25 Sep 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Well done to everyone else on their recent milestones. Mine is a little more modest:

Total credit 29,999.91

RAC has been hovering around 100 for the last few days too after a 30 day low of 75.

I also have 10,000 for SETI Beta and 50,000 for BOINC Combined in my sights.
656) Message boards : Number crunching : What the heck is going on?? (Message 647195)
Posted 23 Sep 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
In the past, tapes were split in a highly random order, this tended to mix "fast" and "slow" work units, so that we didn't see the system run dry because of all fast (all noisy) work.

Looking at the splitter queue (sunday morning) it seems to be pretty much in order. If the telescope was looking at the same source all the time, that could give us a bunch of really similar work units.

Perhaps things need to be randomized a bit more....


I have had similar thoughts, however even better than randomizing would be to run a sort of preview on each disc or recording session.

It might be an additional workload on the server infrastructure, so that might be why Matt has not done it, but if they could preview each disc they might be able to choose a good mix of work before the splitters start their work.

Seems like a possible solution from my limited viewpoint.

<edit> added a word to make more gramatical sense </edit>
657) Message boards : Number crunching : So, where is your RAC now (Message 644634)
Posted 20 Sep 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
The overall project stats for SETI and BOINC combined tell an interesting story:


658) Message boards : Number crunching : Leiden Classical down. (Message 643048)
Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Anyone know what happened to Leiden?

Even the home page http://boinc.gorlaeus.net is down although the server can be pinged OK.
659) Message boards : Number crunching : So, where is your RAC now (Message 643018)
Posted 17 Sep 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Mine is dropping, but nowhere near as badly as some I have seen here.


660) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Optimized application tests and recommendations. (Message 639109)
Posted 12 Sep 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
...
Joe, You have mail. 7z file attached.

Keith

Thanks, got it.

You asked in the mail if I'd like the test repeated at a time the system is less busy, I'll reply here to get the info to other testers. Basically I think no more testing is needed for the set of optimized apps I included in SSEBENCH, the pattern is quite clear. What I would like from anyone who has the time is testing of either FFTW version against 5.27. Procedure:

1. Move the existing apps in Science_apps to Science_apps\\Reserve.
2. Extract one of the FFTW version executables into Science_apps. Just the .exe is needed, but other files will do no harm.
3. (Optional) Move/copy WUs between testWUs and testWUs\\Reserve. With no change, the test will take about half the time of the earlier test because there will be only 2 executables rather than the original 4.
4. Run the test.

Note: Because the executables are run with -nographics the FFTW_GFX version will be quite close in speed to the non-graphic version. When running with BOINC the speed would be slightly degraded.
                                                                Joe


Will try to do that tomorrow.

I have installed KWSN_2.4V_SSE_MB_FFTW_GFX in place of KWSN_2.4V_SSE_MB_GFX and it seems significantly faster so far.

After 55 minutes it had completed 36.205% of a WU with AR 1.486439

Previous WU had an identical AR and took 13875.296875 seconds (3:51:15) to complete.

SETI app is currently "Waiting to Run". BoincView is showing an estimated time at completion of 3:02:46

More tomorrow, Keith
661) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Optimized application tests and recommendations. (Message 639019)
Posted 11 Sep 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Have run the SSEBENCH test on my Athlon XP 2200+
Test time was 1 minute short of 3 hours.
...
@Joe
Would you like a copy of the whole text file? It is 42KB

Keith.

Yes, I gather whatever data is available though sometimes I don't find time to do as much analysis as I should. Email with the text file attached, preferably as a zip or other archive type.
                                                                Joe


Joe, You have mail. 7z file attached.

Keith
662) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Optimized application tests and recommendations. (Message 638959)
Posted 11 Sep 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
...
With those times, are you sure that the Athlon SSE instructions were actually being used, or is that a good example of ICC 'nobbling' of non-Intel CPUs?
...


I had similar thoughts !

I'm going to try the latest app from Crunch3r KWSN_2.4V_SSE_MB_FFTW_GFX on my next 3 WUs. I am currently running a 1.486439 AR which is just over 70% complete. Next 3 in my cache are also 1.48xxxx or 1.49xxxx so I should get a good comparison on normal WUs.
663) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Optimized application tests and recommendations. (Message 638869)
Posted 11 Sep 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Have run the SSEBENCH test on my Athlon XP 2200+
Test time was 1 minute short of 3 hours.

Here's the result:


Quick timetable

WU : FM0017.wu
setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx86.exe : 757 seconds
KWSN_2.4_SSE_MB.exe:
766 secs Speedup: -1.19% Ratio: 0.99x
KWSN_2.4B_SSE_Ben-Joe.exe:
727 secs Speedup: 3.96% Ratio: 1.04x
KWSN_2.4V_SSE_MB.exe:
721 secs Speedup: 4.76% Ratio: 1.05x

WU : FM0446.wu
setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx86.exe : 752 seconds
KWSN_2.4_SSE_MB.exe:
992 secs Speedup: -31.91% Ratio: 0.76x
KWSN_2.4B_SSE_Ben-Joe.exe:
869 secs Speedup: -15.56% Ratio: 0.87x
KWSN_2.4V_SSE_MB.exe:
843 secs Speedup: -12.10% Ratio: 0.89x

WU : FM1181.wu
setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx86.exe : 909 seconds
KWSN_2.4_SSE_MB.exe:
1368 secs Speedup: -50.50% Ratio: 0.66x
KWSN_2.4B_SSE_Ben-Joe.exe:
1354 secs Speedup: -48.95% Ratio: 0.67x
KWSN_2.4V_SSE_MB.exe:
1412 secs Speedup: -55.34% Ratio: 0.64x


@Joe
Would you like a copy of the whole text file? It is 42KB

Keith.
664) Message boards : Number crunching : AMD Optimized application tests and recommendations. (Message 635297)
Posted 7 Sep 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Thanks for the effort.

Could you make a .CSV or .XLS file(s) available online somewhere ?

Maybe use a few more colors too as the shade of green you have used is possibly not the best for easy reading.

Thanks, Keith
665) Message boards : Number crunching : Stopped Crunching (Message 635268)
Posted 7 Sep 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Wu's are not crunching on my X2 system. No changes have been made. No wu's downloading.

Checked other system & wu's crunching away.

Any ideas?

[edit] Checked net access - ok. other programs runs ok. Rebooted, no change.
[edit]


07/09/2007 12:33:36|SETI@home|Deferring communication for 7 min 30 sec
07/09/2007 12:33:36|SETI@home|Reason: no work from project


All splitters appear to be offline at the moment. No (or very few) results ready to send. Result creation rate is close to zero.

Your other BOINC project "Rosetta" is also offline at the moment.
666) Message boards : Number crunching : 5.10.20 now recommended Boinc version (Message 634714)
Posted 6 Sep 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Thx Toni,

I've ignored it since I wrote the message.
But I could not ignore that the scheduler assigned 26 WUs, and there is still no download ... (more than five houres)


Does this problem has an easy solution, other to reset BOINC ??


Greetings
Bernd


Try ipconfig/flushdns.

On Vista it is more difficult to do than on XP. Google ipconfig/flushdns vista or ipconfig vista for more information.
667) Message boards : Number crunching : Rosetta offline?? (Message 634703)
Posted 6 Sep 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
News updated:

News


September 6, 2007
Outage Notice: The project is down for repairs. The SAN suffered a serious hardware fault and we're rebuilding the filesystem upon which the R@H project is stored. We're working as quickly as we can to get things back up and running.....

Today
Outage Notice: The project is down for emergency repairs.


Must have been bad as Rosetta is usually one of the most stable BOINC projects. Oh well $h1t happens!
668) Message boards : Number crunching : No More WU´s to crunch......!!! (Message 633881)
Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Have we scanned the hole universe now or what ;-)) ??
Read in a thread lower on this page that something was ........... ????
To technical for me sorry...!!!
Can someone tell a no´t technical human ( that´s me ) what´s the problem with the SETI-Project at the moment?
Have started to run a another project at the time ( Climate prediction.net ) and yeeee estimated time to work done is...1275:29:00 hours....+ 53 day´s, and i thought i´ve had a fast Computer....;-)))
Is that time normal for that type of project or what ??
If so that´s a major challange for mankind...


Workunit creation is very low at the moment.

If you look at Server status page it shows 20 ready to send.

Seti@Home Server Graphs by Scarecrow give a better indication of what has been happening over the last week.

Berkeley "Cricket" Graphs show recent server traffic in real time. The timezone on this one is Berkeley local time "Pacific Daylight Time" UTC-7. Most other timezones are shown as UTC "Greenwich Mean Time".

HTH, Keith
669) Message boards : Technical News : Into the Long Weekend (Aug 31 2007) (Message 633865)
Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
...

I have been waiting for something to come through but .... yep, that's right, nothing. I have been wondering why there are so may problems with SETI. I mean, I work for a large organization that processes millions of transaction everyday. And I mean millions literally and in 17 years I have never seen a single day when the system has been down other than for upgrades and the normal cleaning. And it only last a couple of hours every now and then. I joined SETI some 10 years ago and left it because of all the problems it had. Now I am back thinking that all should be OK but I find that nothing has really changed. The same problems of a decade ago are still there. Isn't it time they got a real computer guy? so that tese problems are fixed?. GUYS GUYS OF TEAM SETI, do something about all this crap. I dedicate 2 machines to this project and it upsets me to have them doing abosluty nothing with their time.

Orlando


SETI@home is a Science project not a business.

The servers are donated by various companies and individuals.

The bandwidth is paid for by donations.

There are plenty of other BOINC projects to run when SETI is unavailable.

[edit]SETI@home has not been open to the public for 10 years yet.

Registration started on March 1 1999. http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/classpages/[/edit]
670) Message boards : Number crunching : Stock vs Chickens (Message 633836)
Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I'm seeing the same thing with Simon's 64b optimized vs 32b stock. The stock is faster on the high angle ranges (above 1.2). You should compare at other angle ranges and see what you get. See the high angle range on the charts in this post


Thanks for the confirmation Tony.

I'm not knocking the Chicken apps, I've seen great results with 2.2b but there does seem to be a problem with the latest apps.

I currently have 2 more high AR workunits to crunch before I get to one with <true_angle_range>0.0085430016715714</true_angle_range>. I will stay with this app for now, until I see some comments from Joe or Simon or Crunch3r

I noticed that we are both using AMD processors, but I did not think the patching issue applied to SSE, only SSE2 and SSE3.
671) Message boards : Number crunching : Stock vs Chickens (Message 633826)
Posted 5 Sep 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I've just started using KWSN_2.4V_SSE_MB_GFX.

On 1.45xxxx to 1.48xxxx AR it is slower! I saw this first yesterday with other tasks running. Did 2 more WUs overnight with slightly better results, but not as fast as stock.

11mr07ad.13682.12751.3.5.177_1
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=603887054
CPU time 8885.9375
<core_client_version>5.10.7</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
setiathome_enhanced 5.27 DevC++/MinGW

Work Unit Info:
...............
WU true angle range is : 1.486741
Optimal function choices:
-----------------------------------------------------
name
-----------------------------------------------------
v_BaseLineSmooth (no other)
v_vGetPowerSpectrum 0.00265 0.00000
sse1_ChirpData_ak 0.02506 0.00000
v_vTranspose4x16ntw 0.01513 0.00000
BH SSE folding 0.00252 0.00000
Restarted at 38.80 percent.
Restarted at 78.06 percent.

Flopcounter: 5851456053899.197300

Spike count: 2
Pulse count: 0
Triplet count: 0
Gaussian count: 0
Claimed credit 19.3181131407555
Granted credit 19.3129513050006

11mr07ac.16034.154445.14.5.34_1
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=603887056
CPU time 13811.3125
stderr out <core_client_version>5.10.7</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Optimized SETI@Home Enhanced application
Optimizers: Ben Herndon, Josef Segur, Alex Kan, Simon Zadra
Version: Windows SSE 32-bit based on S@H V5.15 'Noo? No - Ni!'
Revision: R-2.4V|xK|FFT:IPP_SSE|Ben-Joe
CPUID: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+
Speed: 1 x 1798 MHz
Cache: L1=64K L2=256K
Features: MMX SSE

Work Unit Info
WU Credit multi. is: 2.85
WU True angle range: 1.453009
Restarted at 26.83 percent.
Restarted at 47.00 percent.
Restarted at 69.53 percent.
Restarted at 78.31 percent.
Restarted at 97.34 percent.

Spikes Pulses Triplets Gaussians Flops
4 0 1 0 5854098477014
Claimed credit 19.3268294670031
Granted credit 19.3268294670031

11mr07ac.12699.159762.11.5.25_1
CPU time 12354.265625
stderr out <core_client_version>5.10.7</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Optimized SETI@Home Enhanced application
Optimizers: Ben Herndon, Josef Segur, Alex Kan, Simon Zadra
Version: Windows SSE 32-bit based on S@H V5.15 'Noo? No - Ni!'
Revision: R-2.4V|xK|FFT:IPP_SSE|Ben-Joe
CPUID: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+
Speed: 1 x 1799 MHz
Cache: L1=64K L2=256K
Features: MMX SSE

Work Unit Info
WU Credit multi. is: 2.85
WU True angle range: 1.486794
Restarted at 68.06 percent.

Spikes Pulses Triplets Gaussians Flops
2 0 0 0 5849842869343
Claimed credit 19.3127918722553
Granted credit 19.3127918722553

[edit]
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=3001110
672) Message boards : Number crunching : 5.10.20 now recommended Boinc version (Message 633286)
Posted 4 Sep 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
BOINC Change Log is here.

I'm currently running 5.10.7 on my Win XP host, 5.8.15 on Win 98.

I have downloaded 5.10.20 but not installed yet. Only just changed SETI app to KWSN 2.4 GFX version, so I don't want to change too many things at once.

Keith
673) Message boards : Number crunching : GFX (Message 632960)
Posted 3 Sep 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Which is the difference in perfomance (%)?


The GFX version 2.4 has only been out for about 1 day so no accurate % diference yet.

It depends how much you view the graphic window, if your PC has integrated graphics or dedicated graphics chip, and other factors.

I beleive 2.2b and earlier versions saw about 1% to 5% difference.
674) Message boards : Number crunching : The powerful P60 has been retired, again, until next time (Message 632103)
Posted 2 Sep 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Taken the Voodoo 2 Card out of the K6-2, don't need it, it's not as i play games on it any more,
When it crashes the screen sometimes locks up, so it might be part of why it crashes, we'll see.

Claggy


Try setting screensaver to none or blank screen.

My P233 MMX with Win 98 SE recently had an uptime of 43 days. It usually averages 6 -8 days per WU on SETI. That will probably go up a bit for the next week or so as it is currently running 3 BOINC projects:
SETI. Resource Share 20
SETI Beta. Resource Share 20
Leiden. Resource Share 1 (just reduced this from 10 yesterday after Beta got a sucessful download.)
675) Message boards : Number crunching : New Record? (Message 628866)
Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
116.17 pending run with chicken
partner on this has hit 136.55 pending
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=598511467


I think Joe Segur will be interested in this one as both results were done with different versions of the Chicken apps:

<core_client_version>5.8.15</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Optimized SETI@Home Enhanced application
Optimizers: Ben Herndon, Josef Segur, Alex Kan, Simon Zadra
Version: Windows SSE3-Core 2 32-bit based on S@H V5.15 'Noo? No - Ni!'
Revision: R-2.2B|xT|FFT:IPP_SSE3|Ben-Joe
CPUID: Intel Xeon 51xx 'Woodcrest'
CPUs: 1, cores: 4, threads: 1 cache: L1=32K, L2=4096K, L3=0K
Features: MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3
speed: 2998 MHz -- read MB/s: L1=11177, L2=9688, RAM=5932

Work Unit Info
True angle range: 0.226687

Spikes Pulses Triplets Gaussians Flops
1 0 0 18 35217806293415

</stderr_txt>
]]>

<core_client_version>5.10.13</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
Optimized SETI@Home Enhanced application
Optimizers: Ben Herndon, Josef Segur, Alex Kan, Simon Zadra
Version: Windows SSE3 32-bit based on S@H V5.15 'Noo? No - Ni!'
Revision: R-2.4v|xP|FFT:IPP_SSE3|Ben-Joe
CPUID: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz
Speed: 2 x 2796 MHz
Cache: L1=64K L2=2048K
Features: MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3

Work Unit Info
True angle range: 0.226687

Spikes Pulses Triplets Gaussians Flops
1 0 0 19 35216610996819

</stderr_txt>
]]>
676) Message boards : Number crunching : Validate Errors II (Message 628790)
Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I am aware that the project scientists and developers are very busy at the moment, but I put foreward a possible server side solution a few weeks ago.

There is an option in the BOINC scheduler code for a longer delay. Other BOINC projects that I run use it.

29/08/2007 12:59:09|rosetta@home|Project requested delay of 242.400000 seconds
29/08/2007 12:59:55|ralph@home|Project requested delay of 242.400000 seconds
29/08/2007 13:00:26|Leiden Classical|Project requested delay of 181.800000 seconds

If SETI and SETI Beta implemented a similar delay, I beleive many more Validate errors could be prevented.

677) Message boards : Technical News : Sleepless in Oakland (Aug 27 2007) (Message 628750)
Posted 29 Aug 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
have a try @ this:

With Windows:


Shut down BOINC-Manager.
On the Commandline (run) type: ipconfig /flushdns
<enter> then
On the Commandline (run) type: ipconfig /registerdns
<enter> then . . .
Restart BOINC-Manager


This solves HTTP-Problems . . .



The ipconfig /flushdns is definitely worth doing on Windows XP. The registerdns bit is not necessary as discussed in a previous thread some months ago.

This will not do anything on Windows 98, I tried it yesterday when my Win 98 box had a stuck download. Not sure for other flavors of Windows.

I also noticed that a lot of Results/WUs are being sent out within 2 - 5 seconds of creation. I think this indicates that one of the processes (the splitters ? ) is or was under pressure to keep up.
678) Message boards : Number crunching : BOINC Mngr stats problem (Message 628363)
Posted 28 Aug 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
It is now - but it was messed up on each of those two boxes for a little while before I noticed.

I figured that was part of the cause - now I need to find a fix.


The local stats file is called statistics_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml for SETI and other projects have a similar file called statistics_name.of.project.xml these files are found in the BOINC folder.

I believe the dates are in the Unix time format http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_time

Try looking for entries with bogus dates.

I have pasted the 7 most recent days from my SETI stats as an example of a working file:

<project_statistics>
<master_url>http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/</master_url>
<daily_statistics>
<day>1187740800.000000</day>
<user_total_credit>26817.029725</user_total_credit>
<user_expavg_credit>93.706809</user_expavg_credit>
<host_total_credit>24302.645657</host_total_credit>
<host_expavg_credit>85.673515</host_expavg_credit>
</daily_statistics>
<daily_statistics>
<day>1187827200.000000</day>
<user_total_credit>26869.283453</user_total_credit>
<user_expavg_credit>89.515186</user_expavg_credit>
<host_total_credit>24354.899385</host_total_credit>
<host_expavg_credit>82.262878</host_expavg_credit>
</daily_statistics>
<daily_statistics>
<day>1187913600.000000</day>
<user_total_credit>26997.742754</user_total_credit>
<user_expavg_credit>89.293028</user_expavg_credit>
<host_total_credit>24483.358686</host_total_credit>
<host_expavg_credit>83.002531</host_expavg_credit>
</daily_statistics>
<daily_statistics>
<day>1188000000.000000</day>
<user_total_credit>27221.899949</user_total_credit>
<user_expavg_credit>97.238156</user_expavg_credit>
<host_total_credit>24707.515881</host_total_credit>
<host_expavg_credit>91.873109</host_expavg_credit>
</daily_statistics>
<daily_statistics>
<day>1188086400.000000</day>
<user_total_credit>27252.034402</user_total_credit>
<user_expavg_credit>94.665651</user_expavg_credit>
<host_total_credit>24737.650334</host_total_credit>
<host_expavg_credit>89.602500</host_expavg_credit>
</daily_statistics>
<daily_statistics>
<day>1188172800.000000</day>
<user_total_credit>27322.817708</user_total_credit>
<user_expavg_credit>91.812431</user_expavg_credit>
<host_total_credit>24808.433640</host_total_credit>
<host_expavg_credit>87.258721</host_expavg_credit>
</daily_statistics>
<daily_statistics>
<day>1188259200.000000</day>
<user_total_credit>27507.578560</user_total_credit>
<user_expavg_credit>101.515538</user_expavg_credit>
<host_total_credit>24939.057865</host_total_credit>
<host_expavg_credit>92.203587</host_expavg_credit>
</daily_statistics>
</project_statistics>
679) Message boards : Number crunching : Very long deadline (11 weeks) (Message 627805)
Posted 27 Aug 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
Jim, it changed with the introduction of enhanced. Preenhanced was 64 (I think). I know it works on 48 Meg, as evidenced by my machine.

Thanks Astro. Have to keep that in mind! I may even try putting a few of my *slugs* online one of these days when I get my network setup complete. (main holdback now is the need for an app. 18 inch deep trench across a hard packed gravel road to run my cable to another building where I will be setting them up!)


Why not go wireless ? With the right equipment you should get up to 100m range (that's about 328 feet for you guys in the USA).
680) Message boards : Technical News : Thor's Day (Aug 23 2007) (Message 626424)
Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I had a few stuck downloads for many hours. They seemed to un-stick when I did the ipconfig/flushdns trick. It may have been a co-incidence maybe not.

I also noticed some regularly spaced spikes on the Cricket graph recently, sort of like a triplet! Anyone know what that is about?

Keith.
681) Message boards : Number crunching : New Record? (Message 626413)
Posted 25 Aug 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I've also got a 115.83 pending. Run with the new stock app 5.27 http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=148310712. I'm hoping my Quorum partner Werwolf gets this done soon as the deadline for this WU/Result is 3 Dec 2007 0:54:52 UTC.

[EDIT]

That result came in within the 60 minute edit window! I now have a granted 115.81 for this WU.

[/EDIT]
682) Message boards : Number crunching : Aborted by project? (Message 624740)
Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
The following files are in the zip-file:

libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll 448.600 Bytes
setiathome_5.27_windows_intelx86.exe 2.160.033 Bytes
seti_527.jpg 9.068 Bytes
setiathome-5.27_AUTHORS 751 Bytes
setiathome-5.27_COPYING 17.992 Bytes
setiathome-5.27_COPYRIGHT 1.990 Bytes
setiathome-5.27_README 2.020 Bytes

Yes, I unpacked them all in a seperate directory, and from there I copied them to C:\\Programme\\BOINC\\projects\\setiathome.berkeley.edu. They had the correct size. But after the mentioned retry transfer, BOINC(?) starts to download the .exe and the .dll file, which now have a length of 0 bytes !?!?

What is still wrong ?

Greetings
Bernd


I have not read all of this thread, but I do have a solution for this part of the problem.

I have previously copied a good copy of a file (ussually JPG file) which had downloaded as the wrong size due to mobile phone (UMTS) data compression.

Then BOINC replaced my good file with a bad copy.

The solution is to make the files you are having problems with read-only using the Windows file property tool.

Right click on the good copy of the file when it is in the correct folder and click Properties. Then tick the box Read-only in the Attributes section. Then click OK.

When BOINC tries to download the file again it should now skip the file.

HTH, Keith
683) Message boards : Number crunching : Welcome to the 9 Year Club (Message 624571)
Posted 23 Aug 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My 8th SETI birthday has arrived.

I have to admit to not crunching contiuously for thosse 8 years. I probably took at least 2 or 3 years break from SETI, but I have been running BOINC since 06 Jan 07.

I guess it's about time I uploaded a profile.

BTW my first home cruncher was a 486 DX 2-66, my second one the P233 MMX is still crunching today.

Keith T.

Just outside London, England, UK
684) Message boards : Number crunching : Boinc Service Keeps Stopping (Message 623002)
Posted 20 Aug 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
yes. the app runs as an app while i'm logged in as myself (with admin equivalence) or as administrator. that's how i'm continuing to process wu.

uninstalling the current and installing the previous isn't something i've tried yet. i did uninistall the current, download a fresh copy of the current and reinstall without it fixing anything.

i'm not sure i still have a previous version on tap to try installing. i know they pull it from the d/l section when the new version is made available, so that's a non-starter.


All the old versions can be found here http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/?C=M;O=D
685) Message boards : Number crunching : The powerful P60 has been retired, again, until next time (Message 622618)
Posted 19 Aug 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I'd been asked to try out an MB wu on this ole P60 to see if it could now complete a task on time with the standard app (I.E if the formula that determines deadlines is set where it was supposed to be). I've snagged this WU but don't know if it's an MB wu or not.

<name>09mr07ac.30034.3344.10.4.155</name>
<true_angle_range>0.72614681433378</true_angle_range>

It's been running now for 58:10:35, is 11.056% complete, and estimates 425:03:50 remaining.


Yes, this is a MB workunit. The clue is the recording date (the first 6 characters of the filename). This one was recorded on 09 March 2007 09mr07 and I think the ac indicates that it is from the third recording session on that day.

Regards, Keith

[EDIT]

BTW thanks for the tip about Leiden, my 233MMX completed it's first Leiden WU http://boinc.gorlaeus.net/results.php?hostid=28146
686) Message boards : Number crunching : Workunit pending validation for too long (Message 621884)
Posted 18 Aug 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
I have one work unit which was completed on the Aug 8 and the other computer completed it on Aug 6. The quorum is set to 2 and the claimed credits match. I did notice the units waiting to validate went to 0 so I suspect this unit has gotten lost. I've seen this happen before and suspect credits got lost.

The work unit can be seen at http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=145295929

Is there any reason this unit is not validating?


Your Result was done by an old version of the Chicken apps "Version info: Windows P4 SSE3 32-bit V5.15 'Chicken Good!' (R-1.3|+freq|xP+)". This may be significant. Please visit http://lunatics.at/ to get the latest version.

I have seen WUs like this before, but they have shown "checked but no consensus yet" or somthing similar. Your results show "Initial".

You may have to wait a few weeks for this one as the 3rd computer in the Quorum has not contacted the servers since 6 Aug 07.
687) Message boards : Number crunching : As my RAC drops and drops... (Message 621100)
Posted 17 Aug 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
A few months ago we had people moaning that all the WUs they were seeing were over 5 years old, or that we were re-crunching old work that had been done before.

Now we are actually seeing NEW WORK that has come out of Arecibo this year. Beta testers have been working on MultiBeam for over a year, helping to get the the new apps and data to SETI Main.

If you are here for the science as well as the credit, then you will weather this storm. The Project Staff are doing their best on a limited budget to keep the biggest distibuted computing project in history running.

I guess some people are only happy when they have something to moan about !

Regards, Keith
688) Message boards : Number crunching : The powerful P60 has been retired, again, until next time (Message 620270)
Posted 16 Aug 2007 by Profile Keith T.
Post:
My 233MMX just plodded home to complete the quorum on http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=145818160. This was mostly done with Chicken 2.4 I switched science app part way through.

It also pushed my RAC for SETI back over 100 :-) It had just dropped below with all the very short WUs and server problems of the last few days.

It can't download any more work yet so I may give it a rest for a few days. It recently had over 43 days uptime runni