Message boards :
Number crunching :
Selective Crunching at it's Worst
Message board moderation
Author | Message |
---|---|
htrae Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 241 Credit: 768,379 RAC: 0 |
I was surfing through some stats and came across this host that seemed to be having problems. Then I figured out that it looks like the the User is selectively trashing WU's that are probably going to drag down his RAC. Oooh the morality of it all..... Host ID 2512275 |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Some people have no morals. Me, I've just stuck it out or tried to find a technical way around the 58.7s (if that's what he's dealing with). Putz. And the kitties say.........."You gotta crunch wot you got." "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
mikey Send message Joined: 17 Dec 99 Posts: 4215 Credit: 3,474,603 RAC: 0 |
But to actively have to manage a computer like that is just not worth the hassle! |
Pappa Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0 |
The Funny part is with the diversity of different Multibeam Angle Ranges we are seeing in Seti Beta, she/he will soon be to one per day... Snciker You gots to Crunch What You Gets... Then It all equals out...
Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project. |
htrae Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 241 Credit: 768,379 RAC: 0 |
LOL.....he probably doesn't get much sleep. |
skywatch@Seti.USA Send message Joined: 1 Dec 00 Posts: 22 Credit: 5,085,655 RAC: 0 |
I'm not sure but I think the problem is the over clocking he is using. Looked at a couple of his results and didn't see that they were aborted, just failed to complete without errors. I hope fixes his OC problem or the selective trashing if that is the case. |
htrae Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 241 Credit: 768,379 RAC: 0 |
It looks like the majority of them are Transfer Aborts with the odd User Abort thrown in just after the WU starts. |
skywatch@Seti.USA Send message Joined: 1 Dec 00 Posts: 22 Credit: 5,085,655 RAC: 0 |
Yep, see the user aborts (support for the selective trashing theory), but how can you determine weather or not to crunch a WU before it's downloaded to your system? |
htrae Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 241 Credit: 768,379 RAC: 0 |
Now that's a good question.....anybody...?. |
Pappa Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0 |
If you Google for the Credit Calibration Threads that will give you an idea. There are Angle Ranges that give the best bang for the buck... That was discussed... It was also discussed that some might try to take advantage... There are tools or brut force when you look that show the angle range. So for one to spend ones time sitting in front of the computer to abort NON Credit friendly Angle Ranges is sad... They should let it run... or help sort out getting the splitter estimates corrected... I do not know whether to feel sorry for the individual or the folks that will have to wait for the Quorum to complete as a result of Selective Credit Trashing. Hopefully they monitor the Forums, and can get a clue.
Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project. |
KWSN - Chicken of Angnor Send message Joined: 9 Jul 99 Posts: 1199 Credit: 6,615,780 RAC: 0 |
htrae, I can think of several ways right off the bat. Thing is, I don't want to give anyone silly ideas :o) Suffice it to say, it's relatively trivial to do, but possibly quite harmful for projects in the long run. Regards, Simon. Donate to SETI@Home via PayPal! Optimized SETI@Home apps + Information |
Pappa Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0 |
You have to call it in the Aire and know when to rip out the Network Cable or Modem Cable... Then then those would appear as Ghost Wu's... Snciker
Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Well, maybe we have to just write it off to a rig gone wild. I have had one of mine go off into the wild blue yonder and trash the whole cache before. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
htrae Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 241 Credit: 768,379 RAC: 0 |
You have to call it in the Aire and know when to rip out the Network Cable or Modem Cable... Then then those would appear as Ghost Wu's... Ya, that's the only way I could think of too. Man, this guy must be needing some sleep by now...LOL.
Cat's out of the bag now Mr. Chicken, ya better run before you become cat food...LOL. |
skywatch@Seti.USA Send message Joined: 1 Dec 00 Posts: 22 Credit: 5,085,655 RAC: 0 |
Well, maybe we have to just write it off to a rig gone wild. I have had one of mine go off into the wild blue yonder and trash the whole cache before. Bye the Bye, NICE Farm |
Mac-Nic Send message Joined: 29 Jun 00 Posts: 165 Credit: 551,008 RAC: 0 |
You have to call it in the Aire and know when to rip out the Network Cable or Modem Cable... Then then those would appear as Ghost Wu's... I have a wireless net-connection and once in a wile the router restarts, creating some ghost units by doing so. I cant imagine some would manually filter the wu's. But one could use a packet sniffer and write a bot to get some sleep. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Well, maybe we have to just write it off to a rig gone wild. I have had one of mine go off into the wild blue yonder and trash the whole cache before. Thanx...the kitties always wonder what I'm up to pokin' at those boxes in the living room and cussin'. Luckily I don't also have a sig other lookin' over my shoulder as well. Just hope my quaddy recovers from the last big crash soon and my RAC recovers as well. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
htrae, Now Simon, all I ever asked you to do was to determine the best code to use once the WU was downloaded to my system. That's not cheating, now is it? "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
KWSN - Chicken of Angnor Send message Joined: 9 Jul 99 Posts: 1199 Credit: 6,615,780 RAC: 0 |
Lol. Mark, that wasn't directed at you at all, I know you love tweaking your hardware but are not a cheating soul. I know that just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you, but hey ;o) Regards, Simon. Donate to SETI@Home via PayPal! Optimized SETI@Home apps + Information |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Lol. Thanx Simon, luv y'all in the Chicken coop. If I could code it myself I'd give it a try. But I gotta leave it all to those who can-do. And thank you for recognizing my honesty. It's a wonderful thing to have. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
©2024 University of California
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.