It's HARD to download a virus at 56k baud on a plugin phone modem.....":D)

I miss my C64, still got the monitor, keyboard/cpu and the floppy drive.....I may try to boot it tomorrow, if I can find a disk. That was my first exposure to a GUI interface, had an office program called 'Magicdesk' or 'Superdesk' really primitive but yes you could print invoices with it.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

It's HARD to download a virus at 56k baud on a plugin phone modem.....":D)

56k...WOW! That would've been pretty fast for a C64. The speediest I ever had was a VOLKS 6480 that topped out at 1200bps.



Sold it on eBay about 15 years ago for $5!

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Good old times.

That reminds me we had to write a virus for the C64 in university.

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With each crime and every kindness we birth our future.

I stand corrected Jeff, it WAS a lot slower. I now recall baud rates of 300/600/1200. It's just been SO LONG ago. And I also had a volksmodem.....":D)

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Greetings,

Did the Commodore have to use peripherals made for it?

Back in the day, when I was learning computing, it was on a Tandy Color Computer 3 and I was using peripherals not specific to it including a 2400 Baud modem. The OS used was OS-9 from Microware Systems Corporation. It was a derivative of Unix.

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

It's never been cheap to be in bed with M$ and it's gonna get worse.

Whores always overcharge and you never get what you pay up front for.

x1
......":D)........":D)

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

More news you didn't want. People buying new hardware, more precisely the new CPUs from Intel, AMD and Qualcomm, but also GPUs from Intel, AMD and Nvidia, should know that soon their hardware is only fully supported under Windows 10.

The Intel Skylake processors will have support until 17 July 2017 for some of this processor's classes on Windows 7 and 8.1, the newer ones will only be supported by Windows 10. The newer Intel Kaby Lake processor, the QualComm 8996 processor and the Bristol Ridge processor by AMD will all only have Windows 10 support.

This does not mean they don't work with older OSes, just that when you have problems that you're required to update to Windows 10 before you're eligible for support.

Apropos, for those of you thinking, "heck it, I'll go to Linux then", these also require newer kernel versions to fully support the new hardware, but at least updating here is free.

Two significant improvements have been integrated in what Larabel described as "a calm release cycle": a reworked open source support platform for Nvidia graphics cards and support for Intel's latest 6th Generation Skylake processors.

The vast majority of the changes, around 70 percent, are to drivers, while just 10 percent are architectural. There's also initial support for AMD R9 Fury graphics chips, SMP scheduler optimisations and fixes to the file system.

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More news you didn't want. People buying new hardware, more precisely the new CPUs from Intel, AMD and Qualcomm, but also GPUs from Intel, AMD and Nvidia, should know that soon their hardware is only fully supported under Windows 10.

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Greetings,

I can hear it now...

In an undisclosed backroom at CES with the bigwigs of all major hardware companies in attendance and Micro$oft at the podium:

MICRO$OFT: Listen people, we're having one hell of a time in getting Window$ 10 on every computing device in the universe. We need your help. We demand that you design your next generation hardware to support Window$ 10 ONLY and to hinder the use of older Window$ to the point that people will just throw in the towel and accept Window$ 10. We will send you kickbacks from the subscription fees we collect from everyone for the continued use of Window$ 10. This will be a lucrative venture for all involved.

DISCLAIMER: The above scenario is pure fiction and any similarity to actual events is purely coincidental.

Keep on BOINCing...! :)

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Windows 10 Upgrade – Free is too expensive?

It's a bizarre situation: Microsoft offers a free upgrade to the latest operating system to its users - and they just say no! Or more precisely: They do upgrade but not in droves as Microsoft had planned. Windows 10 was supposed to run on more than one billion computers soon, that was the goal. At the beginning of 2016, roughly 200 million have installed it. And then Yang Yuanqing, Lenovo's current CEO who used to be a reliable ally, made the situation worse by openly criticizing the many issues especially users of older machines were facing with Windows 10. But Windows 10 still has a lot to offer and runs, to sum up the many tests, quite smoothly. Read on to learn about what you can expect from Windows 10, who really needs the new operating system and what risks are involved!

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Call me an old fart....call me whatever.
But my daily driver is on 7. Updates disabled.
And shall remain so until it is absolutely necessary that I do something else.
My anti virus is up to date and that should, along with my router firewall, and some common sense in not clicking on unknown email attachments, allow me to continue unperturbed by MS's intrusions.

My other 8 crunch-rigs are still on XP. That may start to get more problematic depending on the minimum NV driver revisions required by the new Lunatics v8 installer. Won't know that until it is released.

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"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

The unconscionable attitude of Micro$oft has everything to do with greed rather than technological advancement. The collusion of hardware vendors revealed at the CES is monopolization writ bold!

Imagine the antitrust charges that would follow a meeting in which BP and the major automobile makers agreed that all future cars would be designed to only run on BP gasoline.

So what's the difference?

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Call me an old fart....call me whatever.
But my daily driver is on 7. Updates disabled.
And shall remain so until it is absolutely necessary that I do something else.
My anti virus is up to date and that should, along with my router firewall, and some common sense in not clicking on unknown email attachments, allow me to continue unperturbed by MS's intrusions.

My other 8 crunch-rigs are still on XP. That may start to get more problematic depending on the minimum NV driver revisions required by the new Lunatics v8 installer. Won't know that until it is released.

CUDA apps will keep the v7 requirements.

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I'm embarrassed. :) After searching hi/lo on my win 7 64 bit to find a page of updates having check marks so I could choose to update or not update things, I took a screen shot for posterity.

Unfortunately I didn't take a pic of the ENTIRE page so I can't see the PATH to the update page that has the check marks. :( I now can't find it. The page has been swallowed up by a black hole, perhaps? :)

Can anyone give me the full path starting with 'click the windows icon in the lower left, dummy' then click CONTROL PANEL / YADA / YADA............. ??

Thank you,
Linda

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River Song (aka Linda Latte on planet Earth)
"Happy I-Phone girl on the GO GO GO"

Start->All Programs->Windows Update. It's one of the options at the top of the menu, before the folders of programs you installed.

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Try 'Control Panel, Windows Update' - I think that's the one that opens automatically when something needs installing.

Then, 'View Update History' - left-hand pane, line 4

Then, 'See Installed Updates' - top pane, end of second line.

I suggest you right-click on the column header line (Name, Program, Version, ...), which offers you more columns to display: choose 'More:', and - almost at the very bottom - check 'Update ID'.

You can click on the header for the new Update ID column, and sort them into order - that makes the dodgy ones easier to find.

If you uninstall those, they'll come back again like bad pennies at the next Windows Update check - and that's when you get the checkboxes which allow you to let them (re-)install themselves, or not.

Start->All Programs->Windows Update. It's one of the options at the top of the menu, before the folders of programs you installed.

THANK YOU !! BLESS YOU !!

that DID IT! It went straight to the correct page and said "Download and install updates on your computer" YAY :)

The first time I found it was by the following: Start / Control Panel / System and Security / and then many more clicks and clicks till I stumbled on it.

YOUR way is MUCH faster, just 3 steps!

Huggs & Kisses :)

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River Song (aka Linda Latte on planet Earth)
"Happy I-Phone girl on the GO GO GO"

Try 'Control Panel, Windows Update' - I think that's the one that opens automatically when something needs installing.

Then, 'View Update History' - left-hand pane, line 4

Then, 'See Installed Updates' - top pane, end of second line.

I suggest you right-click on the column header line (Name, Program, Version, ...), which offers you more columns to display: choose 'More:', and - almost at the very bottom - check 'Update ID'.

You can click on the header for the new Update ID column, and sort them into order - that makes the dodgy ones easier to find.

If you uninstall those, they'll come back again like bad pennies at the next Windows Update check - and that's when you get the checkboxes which allow you to let them (re-)install themselves, or not.

THANK YOU !!!!!!! I found it using the '3-step' in the previous reply. Your info adds add'l useful info and I appreciate it !!!!!!!!!!

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River Song (aka Linda Latte on planet Earth)
"Happy I-Phone girl on the GO GO GO"

M$'s favorite trick when upgrading Window$ versions is hiding the system controls in different locations. And as always there are multiple paths to get there.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Good evening just one other thing as far as updates you do NEED to check cosmic ocean's list of updates to avoid to stay away from win 10 and M$ trying to take control of your computer.

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ME AND MY BOY LOOKING FOR ET

It is strongly recommended to change the update settings over to "check for updates, but let me choose whether to download and install." Then cross-reference with updates to avoid (v5) to uncheck and hide any of those that show up, and then research the rest. This way you can still be safe by getting updates, but have control over not having 10 forced upon you. It is, of course, easier to just turn updates off entirely, but that is not as safe.

As was mentioned elsewhere in this thread along the way, here's how to distinguish which ones are suspect:

If the update name starts with:

"Security Update for..." - 99.9999% of the time, these are safe.
"Update for..." - every update in the above list all started with this string.

I research the KB numbers of every update that starts with "Update for..." and then decide from there if it can be trusted or not.

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Linux laptop:
record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up)