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Dorsai Send message Joined: 7 Sep 04 Posts: 474 Credit: 4,504,838 RAC: 0 |
Anger? I have no anger. I do have a brewski though... Those that do have anger, go get a six pack, and have a brew... :) Foamy is "Lord and Master". (Oh, + some Classic WUs too.) |
DecBassI Send message Joined: 21 May 05 Posts: 152 Credit: 86,905 RAC: 0 |
Anger is brewing...? Are the recent comments really any worse than we have seen in the past? You want REAL anger, try the cafe! I daren't post to some of the threads there, for fear of being flamed to a crisp! As far as I can see, the same old arguements seem to be churned out time after time, whenever Boinc/Seti is not working quite as it should. I, like Paul D Buck, think of myself as being reasonably neutral, but i probably lean slightly to the cheerleader camp, as I tend to think "Oh, well, it will sort itself out eventually". (BTW, I called the "other" camp the Naysayers, I have also seen "Doomsayers" mentioned.) I only started Seti/BOINC quite recently, and was not involved with Seti Classic, so I really had no expectations one way or another. From my point of view, I think it works quite well, if you look at it long-term, and not short-term. The short-term problems DO get sorted in time. I'm still processing WU's, have no problems with UL/DL, and are getting credits, albeit for work done over a week ago. I know I have said some of this stuff before, but as I said at the start of this post, the same questions/arguements do seem to come around on this board... Dec. edit... we just need Fuzzy to post next, and this will start to look like a Cat-Fanciers Club! |
Astro Send message Joined: 16 Apr 02 Posts: 8026 Credit: 600,015 RAC: 0 |
I know this stinks, but it was the first name I thought of for the third group. "the Bad News Bears". [edit] after all, they're always huddled around the trash. |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
I know this stinks, but it was the first name I thought of for the third group. "the Bad News Bears". I called them antagonists some time ago. ;) I've also seen "the Naysayers". Anyway, sure you want to have them bears in a thread about brewing? Before the other person comes in opening yet another bear. ;) |
DecBassI Send message Joined: 21 May 05 Posts: 152 Credit: 86,905 RAC: 0 |
I know this stinks, but it was the first name I thought of for the third group. "the Bad News Bears". For those who know their Old Testament, I think "Jeremiahs" would also be good - wasn't he a prophet of Doom? |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20435 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
... For those who know their Old Testament, I think "Jeremiahs" would also be good - wasn't he a prophet of Doom? Indeed, And we've even had "Old Nick" prophesising himself and giving us a good stirring on "Intelligent Design (Review)"... Mr NC looks to have quite an old crony clique over on s@h-classic DESIGN REVIEW... also. Call 'em The Old Nicks? All good fun, Cheers, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
TPR_Mojo Send message Joined: 18 Apr 00 Posts: 323 Credit: 7,001,052 RAC: 0 |
I do believe we have already been christened "whiners" ;) |
Ed and Harriet Griffith Send message Joined: 10 Apr 99 Posts: 127 Credit: 226,261 RAC: 0 |
Hmm...I have noticed that people seem to be getting ever angrier and almost violent as this backlog continues. ... SETI did indeed give a great and clear explanation. As long as I get something like that, be it good news or bad, I am a happy camper. To make me a really happy camper, I hope that after the outages and validations are over, SETI gives a progress report on how the migration is coming or news if it is stalled. Ed Griffith |
D.J. Schweitz Send message Joined: 29 Oct 02 Posts: 157 Credit: 871,078 RAC: 0 |
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N/A Send message Joined: 18 May 01 Posts: 3718 Credit: 93,649 RAC: 0 |
[font='courier,courier new']I think there's at least five groups.
"The Devs are doing the best they can."</li><li>Whiners "Is that the best the Devs can do?"</li><li>Indifferent "Right or wrong, they're the Devs, and it's their problem."</li><li>Uninformed "Where's my credit? This sucks. I'm going back to Classic!"</li><li>and Mellow "So?"</li> [/font] |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34268 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
[font='courier,courier new']I think there's at least five groups. Hi Possible there are 6 groups. I´m a mix with 1 and 5. So many outages where on classic in the past. The longest i remember was over one week. Nothing is realy shocking me. greetz Mike With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
N/A Send message Joined: 18 May 01 Posts: 3718 Credit: 93,649 RAC: 0 |
[font='courier,courier new']Those were the only five I could think of.[/font] |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
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Shaun Neff Send message Joined: 15 Jul 05 Posts: 157 Credit: 34,715 RAC: 0 |
So what triggered Shaun? I've never read such a weird post. Maybe that pseudo-doc on the other threads makes house calls? lol! What triggered me? Nothing triggered me. Just making an observation. Since I've long run out of units to crunch I had to do something. So I made a useless post that made little or no sense. Besides, I don't really care about flamers, or spammers, or morons. It's not my place to care. Hell, if I did, I would have left long ago. Besides, the seti boards are pretty darn tame compared to other places I've posted. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. <img src="http://www.boincstats.com/signature/user_220108.gif"> +250 Classic Seti |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20435 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
...Besides, the seti boards are pretty darn tame compared to other places I've posted. Perhaps we're all just (and :) ) seriously passionate here! No anger necessary. Have fun, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
1mp0£173 Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 8423 Credit: 356,897 RAC: 0 |
Hm, there is no use getting angry. I won't repost the news as it has been posted on several other threads, but they're projecting tomorrow morning. Note that the "antique deleters" have been competing with the validators, and that should be through just about now.... |
RPMurphy Send message Joined: 2 Jun 00 Posts: 131 Credit: 622,641 RAC: 0 |
I'm a christened cheerleader, just a silent one, or I email those concerned directly. No sense in stirring up the crap, I'm here to have fun boincing, and boy do I love to boinc! It is a sad sad day when someone takes your spoon away from you... |
Oliver (since 12-may-1999) Send message Joined: 12 May 99 Posts: 33 Credit: 11,639,771 RAC: 13 |
Hmm...I have noticed that people seem to be getting ever angrier and almost violent as this backlog continues. I ain't no peace lover. But, when has a million people yelling over one another ever led to a decent solution. It doesn't...ever. I don't really give a crap if this causes anyone to flame me, but all of us really need to calm down. The ONLY people who really should have a big problem with the backlog are those who are spending large amounts of money to keep the program running. As it has been said before. The backlog will clear. It's going to clear whenever it can. It's going to clear whether or not people yell and scream. There's no reason to be calling anyone morons, or ridiculing actual 'useful' suggestions. FLAME AWAY! I'd like to know how many people are sick of the attitudes here. And yes, I know I can leave if I don't like it. But, I'm not going to leave and none of you are going to make me. What's everyones opinion? Open the gates! I'm here to STAY! I'm also tired of reading all kind of insults. If someone say: "hey, is not working" the other jump and say: "hey, shut up you !@%@#$!&*^" Lets calm down people http://tinymailto.com/oliver <- my email after a captcha |
Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
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TGPO Send message Joined: 3 Jan 02 Posts: 3 Credit: 175,706 RAC: 0 |
I came over to the forums today to see why if the validators are running in catch up mode, my validated WU's havent changed since atleast yesterday morning. Not coming to complain, only looking for information. Now at the risk of sounding the hippocrit. What we have here is in all essence a fire and forget program. A program that in reality has less need of the user to do anything with than a print spooler. We have all volunteered to the use of our processors to this worthy endevour, and good on us all for that. However just because we volunteer does not immeadiatly imply that we will be selected to help. Letting ourselves get spun up over the fact that we arent processing or seeing the results returned to us is about as silly as getting upset with your neighbor asking if he can try out his new lawn mower and cut your grass for you. Step back and realize we are here at our own volition, can leave at our own volition, and are running a program whose only return result to the user is seeing a few numbers printed on a screen. [/rant] |
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