Now that you have the Creators update it should be possible to stop those video driver updates from occurring in future upgrades.

I was looking for that, but so far if so I can't see where ...

Settings, Update and Security, bottom right under Update Settings, click on Advanced Options, de-select "Include driver updates when I update Windows"
On that page you can also choose to delay general updates for a selected period of time .You can't stop them, but you can delay them till everyone else has had them for a while and found any issues there.

Since you've got Win10 Pro, you can also use the Group Policy Editor to completely block video driver updates (it even stops manually updating the video driver).


EDIT- I just noticed you're still using the CUDA application on your video cards. Any particular reason?

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Grant
Darwin NT

Now that you have the Creators update it should be possible to stop those video driver updates from occurring in future upgrades.

I was looking for that, but so far if so I can't see where ...

Settings, Update and Security, bottom right under Update Settings, click on Advanced Options, de-select "Include driver updates when I update Windows"

Nope, that's where I thought it should be, but no such option is offered on my Advanced Options page on any of the three boxes I checked. Screen cap available on request :)

On that page you can also choose to delay general updates for a selected period of time .You can't stop them, but you can delay them till everyone else has had them for a while and found any issues there.

Yep, saw that, kinda. No way to select a delay period, just a radio button that delays for a fixed 35 days if On.

Since you've got Win10 Pro, you can also use the Group Policy Editor to completely block video driver updates (it even stops manually updating the video driver).

Ugh.

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I just had to install Windows 1706, the Creators Update, on my HP PC. I immediately downloaded and installed the latest nVidia driver, 382.53, for my GTX 1050 Ti, but a bunch of SETI Beta tasks could not find a GPU, which both GPU/Z and Thunderbird see. Then I aborted them and started SETI@home GPU tasks, They run using CUDA 50, not OpenCL, which I am using on my main Linux box running Einstein@home GPU tasks on its GTX 750 Ti. SETI@home screensavers do not work on the Windows PC, Einstein@home do. So this is my first experience with Creators Update.
Tullio

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I just had to install Windows 1706, the Creators Update, on my HP PC. I immediately downloaded and installed the latest nVidia driver, 382.53, for my GTX 1050 Ti, but a bunch of SETI Beta tasks could not find a GPU, which both GPU/Z and Thunderbird see. Then I aborted them and started SETI@home GPU tasks, They run using CUDA 50, not OpenCL, which I am using on my main Linux box running Einstein@home GPU tasks on its GTX 750 Ti. SETI@home screensavers do not work on the Windows PC, Einstein@home do. So this is my first experience with Creators Update.
Tullio

I'm wondering if you did a full reboot after installing the 382.33 driver? Might look at the BOINC Manager log and see if it sees the Open CL at boot up?

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Nope, that's where I thought it should be, but no such option is offered on my Advanced Options page on any of the three boxes I checked. Screen cap available on request :)

So i'd say you're yet to get the Creators update.
I've got Updates deferred, and a wireless connection set to metered and I haven't picked it up yet.

Since you've got Win10 Pro, you can also use the Group Policy Editor to completely block video driver updates (it even stops manually updating the video driver).

Ugh.

Yeah, it's... fiddly to sort it out. But once it's done, no more video driver update issues (although it'll be interesting to see if the Creators update overrides it).

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Grant
Darwin NT

a bunch of SETI Beta tasks could not find a GPU, which both GPU/Z and Thunderbird see.

Exit and restart BOINC usually sorts that out.

SETI@home screensavers do not work on the Windows PC

There were quite a few mentions about that when the update first came out.

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Grant
Darwin NT

The BOINC Manager log sees both CUDA and OpenCl in the nVidia 382.53 driver. Now BOINC uses CUDA on SETI@home tasks, I shall launch Einstein@home GPU tasks as soon as SETI tasks are completed.
Tullio

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EDIT- I just noticed you're still using the CUDA application on your video cards. Any particular reason?

I was still hanging loose waiting for the release of the latest Lunatics installer, which I thought was forthcoming last fall.
Just didn't feel like doing the manual edit on 5 machines, and was also hoping to see the MB v7 stuff removed so BOINC would quit complaining. Have a couple of other issues that a reinstall would resolve, as well.
Will need to address this, as I'm recently experiencing a lot of trouble with Cuda 5.0 and the newer NVidia drivers +/or Win 10, for example these restarts,

159	SETI@home	06/03/17 12:17:29 AM	task postponed 180.000000 sec: Cuda device initialisation failed

which often can only be resolved by a reboot.
Now that I have 3 of 5 crunchers shut down for the summer, it's probably time to start addressing such issues, especially as I know I'm sacrificing production capability.

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So i'd say you're yet to get the Creators update.

Well, the pretty screens say otherwise, as did the downtime I watched while each of the 4 updated and I had to restore the NVidia drivers :)
System Info is:

Edition Windows 10 Pro
Version 1703
OS Build 15063.413

But none of the (now 4) systems offer the option you described. I wonder if that's something that again is only offered if you have a metered connection selected, and is otherwise hidden? Wouldn't put it past them.

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EDIT- I just noticed you're still using the CUDA application on your video cards. Any particular reason?

I was still hanging loose waiting for the release of the latest Lunatics installer, which I thought was forthcoming last fall.
Just didn't feel like doing the manual edit on 5 machines, and was also hoping to see the MB v7 stuff removed so BOINC would quit complaining.

The Beta 6 installer takes care of all of that.
I went back & forth between CUDA & SoG on my C2D a few times, and didn't lose any work while doing so with the Beta 6 installer.

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Grant
Darwin NT

So i'd say you're yet to get the Creators update.

Well, the pretty screens say otherwise, as did the downtime I watched while each of the 4 updated and I had to restore the NVidia drivers :)
System Info is:

Edition Windows 10 Pro
Version 1703
OS Build 15063.413

But none of the boxes offer the option.

That is, odd.

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Grant
Darwin NT

EDIT- I just noticed you're still using the CUDA application on your video cards. Any particular reason?

I was still hanging loose waiting for the release of the latest Lunatics installer, which I thought was forthcoming last fall.
Just didn't feel like doing the manual edit on 5 machines, and was also hoping to see the MB v7 stuff removed so BOINC would quit complaining.

The Beta 6 installer takes care of all of that.
I went back & forth between CUDA & SoG on my C2D a few times, and didn't lose any work while doing so with the Beta 6 installer.

OK, thanks for that. Been meaning to ask. I'll track it down.

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So i'd say you're yet to get the Creators update.

Well, the pretty screens say otherwise, as did the downtime I watched while each of the 4 updated and I had to restore the NVidia drivers :)
System Info is:

Edition Windows 10 Pro
Version 1703
OS Build 15063.413

But none of the boxes offer the option.

That is, odd.

I wonder if that's something that again is only offered if you have a metered connection selected, and is otherwise hidden? Wouldn't put it past them.

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I wonder if that's something that again is only offered if you have a metered connection selected, and is otherwise hidden? Wouldn't put it past them.

Maybe.
From memory, part of the Creators Update was meant to also allow wired connections to be set as metered.

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Grant
Darwin NT

OK, thanks for that. Been meaning to ask. I'll track it down.

Here it is, Mike's world downloads.

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Grant
Darwin NT

All Einstein@home GPU tasks have errored out using OpenCL on the Creators Update Windows 10 and the 382.53 nVidia driver. Instead the SETI Beta tasks, now using OpenCL seem to work. Einstein@home GPU tasks on the Linux box work flawlessly using OpenCl.
Tullio

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The Beta 6 installer takes care of all of that.
I went back & forth between CUDA & SoG on my C2D a few times, and didn't lose any work while doing so with the Beta 6 installer.

OK, thanks for that. Been meaning to ask. I'll track it down.

Installed and running nicely since late last night on the first box, 8.20 Sog tasks so far all validate and no errors with 382.33 driver. Time to tune it a bit.
I did recall from my Beta work what the heartburn was that I had with the SoG apps, but this probably isn't the place for that. Suffice it to say that since Cuda50 seem to no longer be a viable app, it's time to suck it up.

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Installed and running nicely since late last night on the first box, 8.20 Sog tasks so far all validate and no errors with 382.33 driver. Time to tune it a bit.

-tt 1500 -hp -period_iterations_num 1 -high_perf -sbs 1024 -spike_fft_thresh 4096 -tune 1 64 1 4 -oclfft_tune_gr 256 -oclfft_tune_lr 16 -oclfft_tune_wg 256 -oclfft_tune_ls 512 -oclfft_tune_bn 64 -oclfft_tune_cw 64

The 2 parameters that have the biggest impact-
sbs 1024 will be OK for all of your video cards, those that don't have enough memory (some OpenCL weirdness about what % of total VRAM can actually be used) will drop that value down to one they can use.
period_iterations_num 1 is OK for high end cards on higher end CPUs for a daily use machine. For a dedicated cruncher, even with lower end hardware (eg 750Ti) it's still good.
If on your daily computer keyboard input & screen lag is too noticeable, change the value to 5 & see how it goes. If still annoying, try 10, then 15 etc if it's still an issue.

If you get driver restarts, you'll probably need the TDR hack, just to increase the time before it decides there's an issue that it needs to recover from.

Open regedit then -
Navigate to -
H_KEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ System \ CurrentControlSet \ Control \ Graphics Drivers.
Right click on the open field and click on New / DWORD (32bit) Value,
Then name it: TdrDelay -> double click it -> Set the value to 8.

Screen shots about half way down this page for TDR registry edit.

EDIT- OpenCL on Nvidia needs 1 CPU core per GPU WU to do it's thing, and 1 WU per GPU is best. So 4 video cards, 4 cores required.
The sleep function does reduce the CPU requirement, but it also knocks back output.

I've personally found it worthwhile reserving 1 thread per GPU WU. The loss of CPU output is well and truly offset by the increase in GPU output. I've got HyperThreading on and don't even bother with reserving 1 thread from crunching for system use, it's usable with all cores working at 100%.

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Grant
Darwin NT

-tt 1500 -hp -period_iterations_num 1 -high_perf -sbs 1024 -spike_fft_thresh 4096 -tune 1 64 1 4 -oclfft_tune_gr 256 -oclfft_tune_lr 16 -oclfft_tune_wg 256 -oclfft_tune_ls 512 -oclfft_tune_bn 64 -oclfft_tune_cw 64

Actually have it set for that, except -tt 700 and no -hp, based on info from a tuning message a while back. This box is single 750ti on a C2Q, my temporary daily driver until I can get my 2nd Z600 back up.

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-tt 1500 -hp -period_iterations_num 1 -high_perf -sbs 1024 -spike_fft_thresh 4096 -tune 1 64 1 4 -oclfft_tune_gr 256 -oclfft_tune_lr 16 -oclfft_tune_wg 256 -oclfft_tune_ls 512 -oclfft_tune_bn 64 -oclfft_tune_cw 64

Actually have it set for that, except -tt 700 and no -hp, based on info from a tuning message a while back. This box is single 750ti on a C2Q, my temporary daily driver until I can get my 2nd Z600 back up.

Have you just set those values, as your current Valid and Pending results show the default values being used?

Also your system is only showing 1 Processor, so only GPU crunching will be possible unless it shares that core with a CPU WU. Will really blow out the crunching times.

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Grant
Darwin NT