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![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 ![]() |
End of servicing for Windows 10, version 1507 Microsoft Technet |
Dr Who Fan ![]() Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3390 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 ![]() |
We ALL can relate to this... Microsoft won't fix the most frustrating thing about Windows Commentary: The worst feature of Windows 10 is automatic updates -- even when you're in the middle of something. Maybe you're delivering a presentation to a huge audience. Maybe you're taking an online test. Maybe you just need to get some work done on a tight deadline. |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13885 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 ![]() ![]() |
We ALL can relate to this... Not me. I'm running WIn10 Pro, and after updating it lets me select a time for it to reboot & finish installing the updates if I don't want to do it then. *shrug* Grant Darwin NT |
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We ALL can relate to this... Ditto x4 ![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1858 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 ![]() ![]() |
New bit of M$ nonsense. All 5 boxes here interact for some tasks, and since these are scheduled (non-SETI) tasks it is expected that time & date will be correct to keep them from stepping on each other. Been having some issues and discovered the following: 1) While Internet Time Update remains enabled, all machines have been changed from time.nist.gov to time.windows.com, and 2) The current time on 2 of 5 boxes was incorrect. So I live 6 miles as the bird flies from the NIST facility, and I'm gonna go to Redmond for my time? Right. And M$ made this change without my knowledge or consent for what reason? FYI, one of the 5 boxes is Win 7, not 10. ![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 ![]() ![]() |
New bit of M$ nonsense. Often settings get set to factory default when updates are applied. This isn't new and has been going on since at least XP. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 ![]() |
Just replaced my dead Iconia tablet with a M$ Surface PRO 3. It was supposed to be loaded with Win 8.1 but arrived with 10...............Grrrrrrrrr. Well I'll just have to be careful with what info is on it. I've been using a WinPhone for a year so they've already got the basics of my life. ![]() "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
J. Mileski ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jun 02 Posts: 632 Credit: 172,116,532 RAC: 572 ![]() ![]() |
I thought I had driver updates disabled through O&O Shutup. On my E8500 cpu computer I got an Update status:
Ok I set BOINC to not restart when my computer reboots so I can put the correct driver back in place and not lose OpenCL work again. The GT 240 has not been in this computer since November. It currently has a GTX 550ti. |
AMDave Send message Joined: 9 Mar 01 Posts: 234 Credit: 11,671,730 RAC: 0 ![]() |
M$ creates unknown depths in the cesspool of unethical behavior, disdain and contempt towards users of its products. Windows 10 DRM exposes Tor users |
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M$ creates unknown depths in the cesspool of unethical behavior, disdain and contempt towards users of its products. Except of course that if you actually read the article, and some very pointed comments in response to it, it becomes clear that this is a deceptive headline that has nothing new, and little relationship to the actual article or the facts .... Looks to me like at about 4:59 pm on deadline day, Farrell needed a quick article about why Linux is great and Windows sucks and, voila, recycled something that's been around since 2005. Sheesh! ![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 Feb 00 Posts: 4705 Credit: 64,560,357 RAC: 31 ![]() ![]() |
My wife's laptop died and the one that we replaced it with has Win 10 and we both HATE it!!! ![]() I Desire Peace and Justice, Jim Scott (Mod-Ret.) |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 ![]() |
I'm in the same boat Jim, replaced my tablet with a Surface Pro(that was advertised as loaded with 8.1 but on arrival it had 10. NOT a fan. ![]() "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Dr Who Fan ![]() Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3390 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 ![]() |
I read through the article and still do NOT trust M$......... From ZDNet > Windows 10 telemetry secrets: Where, when, and why Microsoft collects your data How does Windows 10 telemetry really work? It's not a state secret. I've gone through the documentation and sorted out the where, when, and why. If you're concerned about private documents accidentally leaving your network, you might want to turn the telemetry setting down. |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 ![]() ![]() |
Anyone have their Windows 10 computer update their video drivers without your supervision? This is on a system where driver updates are forbidden. I just discovered my Windows 10 system seems to have updated the Nvidia drivers from 372.54 to 376.53 all on its own on February 8. I thought this was supposed to incur disaster with BOINC because Microsoft doesn't ship OpenCL enabled drivers. This is not what apparently happened on my system. It has been crunching without errors all this time. OpenCL drivers are installed by Microsoft on that date. Has Microsoft changed their Nvidia driver updates to include OpenCL now. I have been following this thread loosely and everything so far has indicated if you let Microsoft automatically install new video drivers, either AMD or Nvidia, you will lose your OpenCL implementations. Comments. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours ![]() ![]() A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
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Anyone have their Windows 10 computer update their video drivers without your supervision? This is on a system where driver updates are forbidden. I just discovered my Windows 10 system seems to have updated the Nvidia drivers from 372.54 to 376.53 all on its own on February 8. I thought this was supposed to incur disaster with BOINC because Microsoft doesn't ship OpenCL enabled drivers. This is not what apparently happened on my system. It has been crunching without errors all this time. OpenCL drivers are installed by Microsoft on that date. Has Microsoft changed their Nvidia driver updates to include OpenCL now. I have been following this thread loosely and everything so far has indicated if you let Microsoft automatically install new video drivers, either AMD or Nvidia, you will lose your OpenCL implementations. Comments. You really need Win10 Pro to fully stop that stupidity (home will only delay the eventual update). :-( Cheers. |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1858 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 ![]() ![]() |
Anyone have their Windows 10 computer update their video drivers without your supervision? This is on a system where driver updates are forbidden. I just discovered my Windows 10 system seems to have updated the Nvidia drivers from 372.54 to 376.53 all on its own on February 8. I thought this was supposed to incur disaster with BOINC because Microsoft doesn't ship OpenCL enabled drivers. This is not what apparently happened on my system. It has been crunching without errors all this time. OpenCL drivers are installed by Microsoft on that date. Has Microsoft changed their Nvidia driver updates to include OpenCL now. I have been following this thread loosely and everything so far has indicated if you let Microsoft automatically install new video drivers, either AMD or Nvidia, you will lose your OpenCL implementations. Comments. Yep, M$ pushed 376.53 to all 5 of my boxes, 4xWin10 and 1xWin7. However, the 376.53 versions pushed did have OpenCL and there was no problem, unlike the first time a few months ago when they pushed a version that lacked any OpenCL. When I opened a ticket with NVidia on that issue they told me it was an error, and that OpenCL should be included. So I have to assume that was a one-off error. On one machine, I rolled back to a previous version while troubleshooting an issue, and M$ re-upgraded it the next day. Guess I no longer have any control on either Win 7 or Win10. Annoying. ![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 ![]() ![]() |
Thanks for the reply Jimbocous. Explains why things didn't go kaboom! How did M$ force the update on the Win 7 box though? Did you have automatic updates on in that box? I see the Nvidia 376.53 update in my Optional Updates list now. I have my Win 7 boxes set to inform me about Updates but let me decide what to do. My Win 7 boxes are still on the manually installed driver I put in myself. I see that the old KB2952664 has made a re-appearance also. Says it doesn't have the old GWX or Upgrade Capability in it anymore though. Looks like it installs the telemetry for the Windows CEIP system again. Its going back to Hide status again. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours ![]() ![]() A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 ![]() |
How did M$ force the update on the Win 7 box though?"We control the horizontal. We control the vertical. We will not return control of the computer to you because it's OURS!".........sincerely Micro$oft. ![]() "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Mark Stevenson ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 8 Sep 11 Posts: 1736 Credit: 174,899,165 RAC: 91 ![]() ![]() |
"We control the horizontal. We control the vertical. We will not return control of the computer to you because it's OURS!".........sincerely Micro$oft. Only if you let them through the setings , Microsoft never have updated any of my drivers on any of my machines , and i run win 7 Life is what you make of it :-) When i'm good i'm very good , but when i'm bad i'm shi#eloads better ;-) In't I " buttercups " p.m.s.l at authoritie !!;-) |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 108 Credit: 188,578,766 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I'm pretty sure it's been mentioned in this thread, but you should give O&O ShutUp10 a try. I use it on both Windows Pro and Home, and it can be configures to stop automatic driver updates, among other things. https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 ![]() |
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