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![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 81 Credit: 4,083,597 RAC: 0 ![]() |
you lucky bastid!!! wish I had the funds for a trio of titans!! Delidded i7-4790K (CLU/CLU) at 4.7GHz @ 1.310Vcore 24/7, 32GB DDR3-2400, Corsair H100i v2, Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming G1 WIFI-BK, MSI Radeon RX 480 Gaming 4G, HX-650 PSU, Corsair 750D ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 81 Credit: 4,083,597 RAC: 0 ![]() |
wow Delidded i7-4790K (CLU/CLU) at 4.7GHz @ 1.310Vcore 24/7, 32GB DDR3-2400, Corsair H100i v2, Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming G1 WIFI-BK, MSI Radeon RX 480 Gaming 4G, HX-650 PSU, Corsair 750D ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 81 Credit: 4,083,597 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Thanks Brent and Zoom. That's nothing to sneeze at. Looks pretty good for doing it on a budget. I've been piecing together my build and my wife's build for a year, and hers will be done in July, and mine, sometime next summer (this year is just getting it to basic operational status. Our budget is a bit tighter than yours, but it's a work in progress. In a couple of weeks, I order the second G.SKILL Ripjaws X DDR3-2400 16GB kit, which will un-mismatch the RAM, and max it out to 32GB. The Team Vulcan 8GB DDR3-2400 kit goes into my wife's ITX build after this upgrade. Then, It's either a video card, or upgrade the PSU to the AX1200i in anticipation of three 980's by next summer. I could go four on this board, but I want to keep one slot open for other things. The first video card might just be a 960 or 970, depending on bills, and that will rotate into my wife's ITX once I can get the first 980. She doesn't do more than browsing, second life, and sims, so, for her, going to a Devil's Canyon will be a MAJOR upgrade from her core2 duo laptop. Our original plan was for me to finish mine by mid summer, and for her to get a kick-a machine as well finished by xmas, but she changed her mind and opted for a sewing machine and serger, and out of sheer guilt of having The Legendary Black Beast of Aaargh!, and her having a core2 duo T9600 laptop, has me getting her into the ITX box at least by July or August, as all it currently lacks is a CPU and PSU, and the RAM will be in it as soon as the second 16GB kit arrives for mine. After getting the basics in mine, it's simply collecting the custom loop parts, and 980's for next year's project for me, the custom loop. One thing I am noting about the current state of SETI@home is that the VAST majority of die-hards are generally running it on dedicated older systems. Not really super fast, just consistently churning out WUs day in and day out year after year. It took me until the 4770K last summer to hit a million, then the ASRock problems cumulating in the third (second RMA replacement) Z87E-ITX board smoked a MOSFET, and fried the 4770K. I've only been crunching again since the beginning of April, and I'm over 310k credits up, and that's just on the CPU. First million credits took fifteen years. The second before this autumn. Gotta love the new stuff! Why the 5820K? Just budgetary? I'd wait another month and just get the 5930K, but that's just me. After doing the 4790K build, and at the current budget here, it'll be showcase material by next summer, so I'll probably wait for the Skylake-E next autumn for a 2011 (or whatever it ends up being). With the money going into this, I can't justify an X99 here. Once that's built, my wife will get a kickin system (this one). What's your electric bill like? Delidded i7-4790K (CLU/CLU) at 4.7GHz @ 1.310Vcore 24/7, 32GB DDR3-2400, Corsair H100i v2, Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming G1 WIFI-BK, MSI Radeon RX 480 Gaming 4G, HX-650 PSU, Corsair 750D ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 81 Credit: 4,083,597 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Thanks Brent and Zoom. Our situations sound similar. Me unemployed in really rural Texastan, and we are living off our wife's disability check. I'm focusing on computer gear, because I can make money with it, and I need to keep my skills up to par to compete once we get back to civilization. Still, this box doesn't do too shabby... As much as we have put into it, and as long as it's taken, it had better... ![]() Delidded i7-4790K (CLU/CLU) at 4.7GHz @ 1.310Vcore 24/7, 32GB DDR3-2400, Corsair H100i v2, Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming G1 WIFI-BK, MSI Radeon RX 480 Gaming 4G, HX-650 PSU, Corsair 750D ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 17 Jun 99 Posts: 221 Credit: 53,153,779 RAC: 0 ![]() |
My finished Seti Jr. computer. Sporting a Z87 Gryphon, 4690K, 2-EVGA 750Ti, and a Corsair CS450M mounted in a Fractal ARC Midi. ![]() ![]() My next work in progress, SetiCruncher. Asus Z97-A, 4690K, Corsair HX850 mounted in a Enthoo Pro Tower. I need some suggestions for GPUs, I have a $500-600 budget and was wondering what card/cards you guys would buy? ![]() ![]() ![]() |
woohoo Send message Joined: 30 Oct 13 Posts: 973 Credit: 165,671,404 RAC: 5 ![]() |
I think three MSI GTX 960 2GD5 might be better, to get the heat away from the cards |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 37554 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 ![]() ![]() |
A GTX 960 shouldn't use much more than 120W, http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-960/specifications. Cheers. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 4438 Credit: 55,006,323 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I have this one coming tomorrow. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V4HY522/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 17 Jun 99 Posts: 221 Credit: 53,153,779 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I have this one coming tomorrow. Nice looking card, is there a benefit to having 4gigs vs 2gigs for Seti WUs? I also like this card that was recommended by woohoo. ![]() Is this MSI card louder then the ASUS STRIX and the MSI GTX 960 GAMING 4G? I see the benefits of the blower style fan, and wondered if the other two cards suggested would generate less noise with acceptable temps? ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835 ![]() ![]() |
That MSI card MIGHT have airflow issues if you are stacking them, just looks a little tight to me to get air input. ![]() |
woohoo Send message Joined: 30 Oct 13 Posts: 973 Credit: 165,671,404 RAC: 5 ![]() |
Having more memory will help for high resolution gaming but science apps don't use the extra memory. If you only get one or two cards you can go either way. The blower will be louder but the interior will be cooler. The cards with the double fans will be quieter but your case interior will be warmer although you can probably still manage it. With three cards I think the blower is the way to go because you only have three exhausts out the case. In order to do three cards you have to use to bottom two slots so those two cards would be sandwiched together and although there's four fans between the two cards, the heat comes out the top and front filling your case interior with very hot air. I say this having learned the hard way. I have four asus cards right now. Two of them are in one computer, one in another, and the last one catching dust in a drawer because I don't want to pop the 20A breaker again(or find a different circuit). Or you can use a riser for the last card but it won't be pretty. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 17 Jun 99 Posts: 221 Credit: 53,153,779 RAC: 0 ![]() |
That MSI card MIGHT have airflow issues if you are stacking them, just looks a little tight to me to get air input. Kinda like this person's rig? ![]() I'm thinking I might go two 960s and one 750ti on the bottom slot since its shorter and out of the way of the 960's blower. Or I could just buy two 970s. In my Seti Jr. rig I had the two 750s together on the top slots in the beginning and the first card had a temp difference of +10 to +15C then the other card. No one mentioned the 970s is there anything I should watch for if I invest in a pair of those instead? ![]() |
woohoo Send message Joined: 30 Oct 13 Posts: 973 Credit: 165,671,404 RAC: 5 ![]() |
Those four cards are the reference design and not excessively wide so they can breathe. Some of the cards with dual fans are thicker(especially if they add a backplate) so there might be less room to breathe. But the reference design does get the heat out of the case. I don't see a problem with the 970 but it might put you over budget. Or you can go crazy and look for a deal on a 295x2. They also make short GTX 960s like the GIGABYTE GV-N960IXOC-2GD or the EVGA 02G-P4-2962-KR |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 17 Jun 99 Posts: 221 Credit: 53,153,779 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Those four cards are the reference design and not excessively wide so they can breathe. Some of the cards with dual fans are thicker(especially if they add a backplate) so there might be less room to breathe. But the reference design does get the heat out of the case. I don't see a problem with the 970 but it might put you over budget. Or you can go crazy and look for a deal on a 295x2. Ok, thanks for the helpful post. I'm going to buy two of the ones you recommended and possible one of those short 960s. I forgot about those. I'll post pics when its up and running. ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 ![]() ![]() |
Those four cards are the reference design and not excessively wide so they can breathe. Some of the cards with dual fans are thicker(especially if they add a backplate) so there might be less room to breathe. But the reference design does get the heat out of the case. I don't see a problem with the 970 but it might put you over budget. Or you can go crazy and look for a deal on a 295x2. Man, I take a day off and look at all the stuff I miss, lol. My 2 cents. Since I have both cards, some with the ACX (2 fan design) and the single fan design in almost Identical cases, I've found that the single fan is actually quieter than the dual fan config. Weird right? But that is probably because I am putting them under extreme load. Temp wise, yeah the 2 fans run cooler but half that heat gets sent back into the case so I had to modify the case with fans to remove that excess heat. There is a noticeable noise difference between the 2. But overall since both computers are running Maxwell GPU cards the temps are much better than the previous generation cards ( when I had the 780s in there, the temps would hit my default throttle temp and slow down) I've never come close yet to that temp with the Maxwells. Good luck with your build Zalster |
![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 ![]() |
Not really a crunching system's story, but I thought it was worth it to share anyway. It may pull someone else over the line to buy this cooler. :) Last night I noticed while playing videos on my TV-server that things were slowing down a lot. So I checked the temperature of the CPU, it was pegged at a solid 105C and had been that for over an hour. We're still wondering how come the CPU survived that onslaught. :) The CPU is an i3-530 on an Asrock H55DE3 motherboard, 8GB of DDR3, Windows 7 64bit. The CPU heat sink and fan on it were until that time the stock ones, which I had oiled with bicycle oil when it started making a racket around Christmas last year. It had now frozen completely solid, even I couldn't get it to turn when pushing by hand. We use the system primarily to stream videos (films, series) from the NAS, and to watch videos through a browser at Rooster Teeth and Achievement Hunter. So last evening I quickly went to the Alternate.nl site and got a new cooler and a new case. I had already been looking for a new cooler for the past weeks, so this was easy as I knew what I wanted: the Cooler Master Seidon 120V Rev. 2, which is a water cooling that comes factory filled with coolant. It also has one 120mm fan included. Because my old case was a tad old (and dusty!), and couldn't fit a 120mm fan on the backplate, I also bought a new case, an Aerocool GT Advance White Edition, which comes with 2x 120mm fans built in. Cooling was just €46,99, the case was €34,99, so together not even 100 euros. Because I ordered things before 10pm, they managed to send them out last night and I got them today. So this evening I pulled apart the old TV-server, one on one changed over the small connectors on the motherboard, added the backplate for the cooling (one side for AMD CPUs, the other for Intel CPUs), put the motherboard in the new case, changed over HDD and DVD to the new case, same with the PSU and the HD6850 and connected everything again. Last I put in the water cooler. Closed the case and connected it back to the TV. Started up first time around, but damn what a loud fans... that was something in the BIOS though, apparently the CMOS battery is dead so it had forgotten all BIOS settings. Oh well, set that all to their correct settings including that the CPU fan didn't need to be Full ON (the case fan is on the CPU fan output, so it was full on) and saved. Immediately all racket went down. In Windows I told Speedfan additionally to only run fans at 50%. So now you hear neither of the fans, only the hard drive humming. Ran videos for over two hours, max temperature we've seen is 35C, it idles at 15C. With the CPU heat sink and fan this was idling at 35C, normal operating 55-60C. So we're extremely happy. Although there's a little nag: I didn't check these before buying, but both the fan on the water cooler, as well the case fan on the front has a blue LED which can be bright. Nothing said about the case though: there are 4 big blue LEDs on the front of the case. If they start to get annoying I promise to disconnect the molex that feeds them. :) As for the cooler, I may buy another one, this time for my i5-2500K. Its Hyper212 Evo has a fan that's slowly becoming quite loud as well, and while I could probably just exchange the fan for the 120mm fan I have left over from the TV-server case, I'd like to try what this kind of water cooler does with an i5 as well. |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 4438 Credit: 55,006,323 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I have this one coming tomorrow. I mostly got the 4GB card as I also game on this computer and Skyrim was getting cramped in 2GB. ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 3 Sep 02 Posts: 297 Credit: 325,260,309 RAC: 549 ![]() ![]() |
A quick note- Observe the spec on the fans with all these vendors. I will vouch that EVGA uses Ball Bearings(double in fact) not Sleeve Bearings - These are quiet as a church mouse. Only noise I've heard from my GTX 960 SC (single fan version) was when I turned up fan to 70% for a minute- and that was just air. I've had good luck(and effective cooling to <60C-my target) with a 30% manual setting. This holds up under high clocks 540 base and 3505 mem - yielding 1404MHz base and 1752MHz mem clocks as reported by GPU Z with 4x CUDAs running 40% will give 1520 rpms and 53C Ambient room temp and air circulation there and in your Case, guide these adjustments ![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 4438 Credit: 55,006,323 RAC: 0 ![]() |
A quick note- I am crunching 3 WU's and my temps are sticking around 48C on the 960 while the 760 is up around 70C. ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 17 Jun 99 Posts: 221 Credit: 53,153,779 RAC: 0 ![]() |
An updated picture of my second machine. These MSI's run warm, appx. 60C at 80% fan speed working two units at a time. I am going to leave off the third card and save that money towards a third rig. I've noticed my 750TIs run pretty well compared to the 960s, I was hoping to see a slighty higher performance margin between the two cards. Anyone have experience running each type of these cards? ![]() ![]() |
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