Dear all, Lunatics Installer Dudes and Dudette wish to announce the following:

We have started betatesting the Lunatics installer v0.38!

Please visit the relevant Lunatics pages for details.

We want to release to public ASAP, so wide participation and quick responses would be very much appreciated.

The installer now includes ATI MB and AP applications and the CUDA MB app has been updated to x38e.

Lunatics installer team (Richard Haselgrove & Miep)

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Carola
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I'm multilingual - I can misunderstand people in several languages!

Saw your post over on Lunatics. Responded to you there.

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PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC

I posted this over on Lunatics yesterday after running the new version for just a few minutes....

Thanks Carola,
Got it running with no problems on my E5400 dual rig. Running windows 7 sp1 Home Premium and a GTS 450 slightly overclocked at 900/1800/1804 and driver version 266.58. Changed the count back to .5 and am running two WUs on my GPU.

First impression, my GPU work seemed to resume crunching faster than before. I did stop SETI and BOINC before installing out of force of habit so I don't know if it would have stopped by itself when installing. I will update my GPU driver a little later on and see how the latest does. I want to let everything settle a bit first. Grin Maybe a bit later on I will try the newest BOINC client too but I'm kinda happy with the one I have now. If anything else pops up I'll let you know.


Interesting, I know it's just cosmetic but the new work I'm getting is now marked as 6.10. the old work from before I ran the installer was/is still all marked as 6.08 and yes, it seems to have shaved about four or five minutes off my completion times for the shorties. Not sure yet how much faster it is on mid range work..

Since running overnight I am flying by my wingmen. There are one or two minor problems with the more complicated install types but it looks like it should be ready for general release very soon. I also updated my driver to the 275.33 that has caused trouble with the older versions and even stock. As far as I can tell so far that problem has been cured as well.

Stay tuned, I think you will love this new Lunatic's offering.

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PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC

Should mention in the ATI info that using the 11.2 drivers is recommended. Newer drivers tend to greatly increase crunch times

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In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

Dear all, Lunatics Installer Dudes and Dudette wish to announce the following:

We have started betatesting the Lunatics installer v0.38!

Please visit the relevant Lunatics pages for details.

We want to release to public ASAP, so wide participation and quick responses would be very much appreciated.

The installer now includes ATI MB and AP applications and the CUDA MB app has been updated to x38e.

Lunatics installer team (Richard Haselgrove & Miep)

Jumped over to Lunatics, but did not find the download.

Jumped over to Lunatics, but did not find the download.

Do you have access to the Beta Download area @ Lunatics?
The installer is still @ Beta status so if you don't have squire(?) status there you won't be able to grab the download

Dear all, Lunatics Installer Dudes and Dudette wish to announce the following:

We have started betatesting the Lunatics installer v0.38!

Please visit the relevant Lunatics pages for details.

We want to release to public ASAP, so wide participation and quick responses would be very much appreciated.

The installer now includes ATI MB and AP applications and the CUDA MB app has been updated to x38e.

Lunatics installer team (Richard Haselgrove & Miep)

Jumped over to Lunatics, but did not find the download.

At the moment, it's in the "Public Beta Release Applications" download area - which, despite the name, isn't open to the general public, but only to previously-registered beta testers.

We're still ironing out a few wrinkles, especially with the ATI apps, and fine-tuning the wording so that even first-time users will be able to check compatibility and choose the right options when it goes live. A few more days yet, provided feedback keeps coming in from the beta testers, and also provided that no show-stoppers are found.

Jumped over to Lunatics, but did not find the download.

Do you have access to the Beta Download area @ Lunatics?
The installer is still @ Beta status so if you don't have squire(?) status there you won't be able to grab the download

Thank's for pointing that out, Ghost.

Beta testers are Squire (i.e. Lunatics members with 25 posts and more).

We will release to public as soon as we are reasonably sure, that all issues have been addressed and enough people have tested and reported success.

I will do an announcement in the relevant thread as soon as that is the case.
Please be patient. Or prod our beta testers to have a go (especially guys with ATI cards!).

[And what Richard says]

@skilldude the opening post now contains info on drivers, the readme and selection screen will be updated when we have gathered all relevant info and actually know/have been told what we should be writing!

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Carola
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I'm multilingual - I can misunderstand people in several languages!

Actually, they are just holding back release until I get my RAC up high enough that no one can catch me!!! Bwa-haa-haa-haaaaaa :-)

Only joking, it should be ready very soon. It's only been in Beta for a day now so give it a little time. The glitches Richard and Miep spoke of seem to be minor and should be fixed very soon. These guys are really great at what they do. As I said, everyone should be really happy with this new offering.

Also, any Lunatic beta tester that hasn't done so already should head on over there and help get this thing out. Especially those with ATI cards.

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PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC

Jumped over to Lunatics, but did not find the download.

Do you have access to the Beta Download area @ Lunatics?
The installer is still @ Beta status so if you don't have squire(?) status there you won't be able to grab the download

Thanks for that bit of info. BTW, will this cure the clock down problem with the fermi cards, and if not what is the latest nVIDIA driver should I use when it goes prod? Right now I'm using 266.58.

Thanks for that bit of info. BTW, will this cure the clock down problem with the fermi cards, and if not what is the latest nVIDIA driver should I use when it goes prod? Right now I'm using 266.58.

It should cure the downclock, yes. Good to go on 270+ drivers, as far as we can see. We are still observing the machines and tasks for glitches. Just because you don't see a bug anymore doesn't mean you have squashed it.

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Carola
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I'm multilingual - I can misunderstand people in several languages!

Jumped over to Lunatics, but did not find the download.

Do you have access to the Beta Download area @ Lunatics?
The installer is still @ Beta status so if you don't have squire(?) status there you won't be able to grab the download

Thanks for that bit of info. BTW, will this cure the clock down problem with the fermi cards, and if not what is the latest nVIDIA driver should I use when it goes prod? Right now I'm using 266.58.

Yes, the test installer contains a CUDA app which addresses the downclocking problem - too early to give any guarantees, that's another of the things we're testing.

Best to stick at 266.58 for the time being if you're suffering from that, but should be OK to upgrade once the news apps are passed 'fit for purpose'.

[ And what Carola says :P ]

Not suffering any. I did not upgrade to the 270.XXs after viewing all of the posts that everyone was having with them. But, now I can upgrade my two cards (EVGA 460SE & GTX275/GTS250)when things are ready.

I would - if I could.
My Lunatics forum account exist no longer.


- Best regards! - Sutaru Tsureku, team seti.international founder. - Optimize your PC for higher RAC. - SETI@home needs your help. -

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Yesterday I saw something interesting when I downloaded/installed the latest 275 WHQL drivers. I did a clean install, and then after it installed I opened up the NVIDIA Control Panel to see that the PhysX Configuration option had been automatically set back to CPU. I then reset it to "Auto-Select," would this have anything to do with the down clocking problems?

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I upgraded to the 275.33 driver version shortly after I got the new installer. Snoozed GPU and played a couple of games of Solitaire came back without a hitch. No downclocking. It has now been around 24 hours and so far everything is running smoothly. As always, YMMV but it seems to have cured the downclock problem for me.



Edit: Manuel, you made me look. Mine stayed at auto select but I didn't do a removal/ clean install, I just ran it over the top of what I had before. Didn't pay too much attention but I seem to remember seeing something about the installer retaining your current settings so maybe with the clean install that is the default setting. In other words, when you removed the old driver it took the old settings with it and the new driver set it up the way it wanted.

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PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC

Eagerly awaiting the public release of the x38E installer. I've been waiting current optimized code for the Fermi chips. Always was jealous of the stock 6.10 Fermi app cutting much shorter completion times compared to my x32f code. Curious if I will have a problem with the supposed "downclocking fix"? I am running the 275.33 WHQL drivers and I never did have any issues with downclocking on my two 460's. Ran 266.58. 270.61, 275.27 drivers and never had the problem even though I snoozed the GPU's and threw everything I could think of at the cards to see if the problem was there. Never a hiccup.

So..... is the new app faster than the stock 6.10 Fermi app?

Cheers, Keith

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Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours

A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association)

Only by a large margin of magnitude. That's why I was joking about holding back until my RAC got so high nobody could catch me. You should be able to tell by my work how much faster it is. I installed it yesterday afternoon and you can tell by looking at my tasks list when. It cut at least five minutes or more off the shorties I've been getting and somewhere around 15 minutes off the mid range work.

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PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC

Eagerly awaiting the public release of the x38E installer. I've been waiting current optimized code for the Fermi chips. Always was jealous of the stock 6.10 Fermi app cutting much shorter completion times compared to my x32f code. Curious if I will have a problem with the supposed "downclocking fix"? I am running the 275.33 WHQL drivers and I never did have any issues with downclocking on my two 460's. Ran 266.58. 270.61, 275.27 drivers and never had the problem even though I snoozed the GPU's and threw everything I could think of at the cards to see if the problem was there. Never a hiccup.

So..... is the new app faster than the stock 6.10 Fermi app?

Cheers, Keith

The current stock app and the current Lunatics app are pretty much the same app as far as speed goes. The advantage to running the Lunatics app (Prior to the new release still in Beta) is in the reduction of the dreaded -12 errors. I used to get 6 or more -12 errors a day before switching to the Lunatics app, and now I may get one every two weeks. That is with a lot of work through put. The current Lunatics app does have a speed increase for VLAR's over stock, although they may still bog down a system. I was actually crunching VLAR's on my 480's in about 45 minutes, compared to an hour and 5 minutes on my CPU. I didn't have the downclocking issue either, except for one stray occurance, and constantly with the 270.51 Beta drivers. I am running the 275.33 drivers now, and they work perfectly.

Steve

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Warning, addicted to SETI crunching!
Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group.
GPUUG Website

Eagerly awaiting the public release of the x38E installer. I've been waiting current optimized code for the Fermi chips. Always was jealous of the stock 6.10 Fermi app cutting much shorter completion times compared to my x32f code. Curious if I will have a problem with the supposed "downclocking fix"? I am running the 275.33 WHQL drivers and I never did have any issues with downclocking on my two 460's. Ran 266.58. 270.61, 275.27 drivers and never had the problem even though I snoozed the GPU's and threw everything I could think of at the cards to see if the problem was there. Never a hiccup.

Not everybody experiences 'sticky' downclocks or other problems with the 270+ drivers. Jason might know what subset of systems is affected, but since he has addressed the problem and it seems to be fixed in x38e, not much effort has gone into intricate recommendations what driver to use when. If you did not have problems in the first place the fix should not introduce any.

So..... is the new app faster than the stock 6.10 Fermi app?

IIRC we have seen a speed increase (against x32f) over the whole range of Alpha tester systems we have availabe (which isn't many) including Fermis.
However speeds are always down to the specific system, so you can't generalise 'faster'.

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Carola
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I'm multilingual - I can misunderstand people in several languages!