$2.14 a gallon at Circle K downtown.

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$2.14 a gallon at Circle K downtown.

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$2.14 a gallon at Circle K downtown.

downtown where?

Not sure if they have any Circle Ks (pretty sure they don't) but on Menorca in the Med plonmbless zans pencils is Euro €1.01 a litre. Diesel was... I dunno, didn't use the stuff, slightly cheaper I think. (This was my hire car, just €125 a day. This included the free oil drain pan. What a little bargain!)

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Rs.48( Indian Rupees) per liter for regular and 53 for 97 octane some body ps do the conversion

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Rs.48( Indian Rupees) per liter for regular and 53 for 97 octane some body ps do the conversion

That's 0.010446 USD/litre, or about 1 cent/litre for regular and 0.011534 USD/litre or about 1.15 cents/litre.

(conversion rate as of Sep 29 06, 6:28 a.m. ET: 1 Rupee = 0.021762 USD)

Wow! Send us some gas, we'll gladly pay the freight. :-)

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$2.16/gallon at a Speedway in Saginaw, Mi

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Unleaded fuel in my area is 86.9 per litre which is £3.95 per uk gallon, which works out to US$7.39 a gall.

But using the same prices based on a us gall would be US$6.15 a gall (wow!)

Using XE.com at $1.87 to £1.00

A Chevron, (one of the more expensive stations in town), just dropped again! $2.49 for Regular Unleaded!!! - KEEP DROPPING!!! (This next statement is definitely "Wishful Thinking" - Another $1.00 drop to go per Gallon, Per Grade!!! Yeah, right like that'll happen... I can wish and dream about it; though...)

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Was in Sacramento California today, just got home, saw an ARCO station, with a gas price for the cheap stuff, at $2.93/gallon. It finally went down to $2.99/gallon here in Reno.

Within reason it is not the price of fuel that is important, it is the miles per gallon that the vehicle gives.
A car that does 20 mpg means fuel costs are important. A car that does 65 mpg means fuel price is less important.
There is an assumption that the performance envelope of the car is similar whether it does 20 mpg or 65 mpg. This is possible, and not via the Japanese petrol-electric hybrids. That is in real world motoring.
The important cost of fuel to concentrate on is the price per mile it costs to run the vehicle!!
Example - cost of fuel $3.00 per gallon ...
doing an average of 20 mpg costs = 300 c/20 = 15 cents per mile to run
Car doing an average of 65 mpg costs = 300 c/65 = 4.6 cents per mile to run
NOTE: I Europe we can buy vehicles that will average over 100 mpg if driven carefully at the posted speed limits.

My 1996 Rolls Royce does 8 - 10 mpg in town, 15 - 18 mpg in the country

My Mercedes Town Car (C240) does a posted 24 - 30 mpg in all conditions
$6.00 In Newport for 100 octane (bought it by mistake) 19 MPG coming back from Vegas in a '06 Viper 100-110 mph for awhile.
With the greatest of respect, cost of filling the tank IS important!!!!! ('specially at £1.04 a litre!)

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Was in Sacramento California today, just got home, saw an ARCO station, with a gas price for the cheap stuff, at $2.93/gallon. It finally went down to $2.99/gallon here in Reno.

Within reason it is not the price of fuel that is important, it is the miles per gallon that the vehicle gives.
A car that does 20 mpg means fuel costs are important. A car that does 65 mpg means fuel price is less important.
There is an assumption that the performance envelope of the car is similar whether it does 20 mpg or 65 mpg. This is possible, and not via the Japanese petrol-electric hybrids. That is in real world motoring.
The important cost of fuel to concentrate on is the price per mile it costs to run the vehicle!!
Example - cost of fuel $3.00 per gallon ...
doing an average of 20 mpg costs = 300 c/20 = 15 cents per mile to run
Car doing an average of 65 mpg costs = 300 c/65 = 4.6 cents per mile to run
NOTE: I Europe we can buy vehicles that will average over 100 mpg if driven carefully at the posted speed limits.

My 1996 Rolls Royce does 8 - 10 mpg in town, 15 - 18 mpg in the country

My Mercedes Town Car (C240) does a posted 24 - 30 mpg in all conditions
$6.00 In Newport for 100 octane (bought it by mistake) 19 MPG coming back from Vegas in a '06 Viper 100-110 mph for awhile.
With the greatest of respect, cost of filling the tank IS important!!!!! ('specially at £1.04 a litre!)

A quote from the grave!!

Bodder's comment that the cost of filling the tank is important just illustrates my point fantastically. Filling his RR which does 8 - 15 mpg, depending on the drive, is expensive as it chews up fuel for a small distance return.

Our diesel has dropped to 89.9p/litre and the unleaded petrol to 84.9. Looks like our Supermarkets are selling it slightly cheaper than up in the Boarders, where FatB lives!

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A quote from the grave!!

Bodder's comment that the cost of filling the tank is important just illustrates my point fantastically. Filling his RR which does 8 - 15 mpg, depending on the drive, is expensive as it chews up fuel for a small distance return.

Our diesel has dropped to 89.9p/litre and the unleaded petrol to 84.9. Looks like our Supermarkets are selling it slightly cheaper than up in the Boarders, where FatB lives!

NE Scotland John, diesel at Asda just now is 93.5, unleaded is still 86.9 works out about £52.00 to fill up my Volvo 2.0 S40 which has a 60ltr tank, or US$97.24 - "great here aint it - not".

As everyone in the UK knows it's not the actual cost of the fuel it's the vast 60% tax hike on each litre the government impose on us, now there is talk they will want "us" to pay a new "greenhouse gases tax" on top too.

Here is an example, out of date but still relevant:


"Edit - Time to go Mr Blair! - Edit"

Here in Dayton, Ohio we are paying around $2 to $2.30 a gallon. I did go to Canada over the summer for a few days and filling up gasoline was kinda weird since they measure in cents per liter up there. Pretty confusing lol

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Bodder's comment that the cost of filling the tank is important just illustrates my point fantastically. Filling his RR which does 8 - 15 mpg, depending on the drive, is expensive as it chews up fuel for a small distance return.

Our diesel has dropped to 89.9p/litre and the unleaded petrol to 84.9.

Alright, I've read and been enlightened, so thanks. And yes, I would like to see us less dependent on oil and anything related to the Middle East.

But having said that, here's my real reservation about all of these alternative means of fueling transportation: the commercial law of Supply and Demand. If people switch over to diesel or to electric in a big way, the suppliers of diesel or electric will raise their prices to something close to what gasoline costs today.

Gas, heating oil, electricity they are all utitlites. I mean by that, that it doesn't much matter what's used to fuel the cars. So long as people feel they need a vehicle to get to work and for personal mobility, the prices will eventually rise to what they're reluctantly but still willing to pay. So I think that all this discussion about alternative fuels is a bit of a pipedream in terms of hoping for a lower 'tax' on our lifestyles. Because we feel we need it, sooner or later the supliers will gouge us. If you found a way to make cars run on water, the price of water 20 years from now would just shock you.

I just honestly think that the problem runs deeper than simply finding an alternative fuel.

Just my $0.02 on it.

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Bodder's comment that the cost of filling the tank is important just illustrates my point fantastically. Filling his RR which does 8 - 15 mpg, depending on the drive, is expensive as it chews up fuel for a small distance return.

Our diesel has dropped to 89.9p/litre and the unleaded petrol to 84.9.

Alright, I've read and been enlightened, so thanks. And yes, I would like to see us less dependent on oil and anything related to the Middle East.

But having said that, here's my real reservation about all of these alternative means of fueling transportation: the commercial law of Supply and Demand. If people switch over to diesel or to electric in a big way, the suppliers of diesel or electric will raise their prices to something close to what gasoline costs today.

Gas, heating oil, electricity they are all utitlites. I mean by that, that it doesn't much matter what's used to fuel the cars. So long as people feel they need a vehicle to get to work and for personal mobility, the prices will eventually rise to what they're reluctantly but still willing to pay. So I think that all this discussion about alternative fuels is a bit of a pipedream in terms of hoping for a lower 'tax' on our lifestyles. Because we feel we need it, sooner or later the supliers will gouge us. If you found a way to make cars run on water, the price of water 20 years from now would just shock you.

I just honestly think that the problem runs deeper than simply finding an alternative fuel.

Just my $0.02 on it.

well, I guess I COULD tell you all where to buy regular for about $1.50 a gallon. But that might be considered "stealing" on this site

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Ohhh just the thought of it ... stealing, here, never, tut tut... ;-p

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Bodder's comment that the cost of filling the tank is important just illustrates my point fantastically. Filling his RR which does 8 - 15 mpg, depending on the drive, is expensive as it chews up fuel for a small distance return.

Our diesel has dropped to 89.9p/litre and the unleaded petrol to 84.9.

Alright, I've read and been enlightened, so thanks. And yes, I would like to see us less dependent on oil and anything related to the Middle East.

But having said that, here's my real reservation about all of these alternative means of fueling transportation: the commercial law of Supply and Demand. If people switch over to diesel or to electric in a big way, the suppliers of diesel or electric will raise their prices to something close to what gasoline costs today.

Gas, heating oil, electricity they are all utitlites. I mean by that, that it doesn't much matter what's used to fuel the cars. So long as people feel they need a vehicle to get to work and for personal mobility, the prices will eventually rise to what they're reluctantly but still willing to pay. So I think that all this discussion about alternative fuels is a bit of a pipedream in terms of hoping for a lower 'tax' on our lifestyles. Because we feel we need it, sooner or later the supliers will gouge us. If you found a way to make cars run on water, the price of water 20 years from now would just shock you.

I just honestly think that the problem runs deeper than simply finding an alternative fuel.

Just my $0.02 on it.

Yes; however, if you install a full fledged Solar System onto your roof, (here in California), a system with battery backup and setup to power the Utility Grid - then the house meter runs backwards. This generates monthly credits on your "Power Bill" by the Electric Company. A system such as I am describing would cost about $20K U.S. Dollars up front. Then you get Federal and State Government kickbacks for making your home "Energy Efficient". These kickbacks are rebates that bring the adjusted out of pocket expense down to $10K U.S. Dollars.

Now, with your newly installed Solar Roof; buy yourself that Electric/Hybrid Vehicle with the Adaptation of plugging into your home!!! FREE ELECTRICITY TO CHARGE THE CAR as well as powering your home, swimming pool, air conditioning, etc. NICE, EH???

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NOTE: The Solar System that I am describing herein was shown on HGTV. The guy that installed it into his home has a moderate sized family. He runs "EVERYTHING" off this new power source. With "EVERYTHING" running; including A/C, the "MOST" he is charged, (when the system is not powering the grid), is $21.00 U.S. Dollars/Month - PEAK SUMMER BILL!!! Incredible, or what?

Again; add in the charging up of your new Hybrid/Electric Vehicle with "Home Plug-in Adaptation Kit", FREE ELECTRICITY for the car!!! I like it!

Plus, the Government's kickbacks for owning a Hybrid/Electric Vehicle! Incentives, incentives, incentives!!! Plus, being able to drive in the "Carpool Lane" on the Freeways, (at least here in California), with just the driver in the vehicle!

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well, I guess I COULD tell you all where to buy regular for about $1.50 a gallon. But that might be considered "stealing" on this site

Ohhh just the thought of it ... stealing, here, never, tut tut... ;-p
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go to commodities in the finance section. unleaded gas delivered in L.A is $1.51 per gallon. delivered in 30 days. it would be cheaper in europe. all you have to do is riddle out how to store 50,000 gallons. how hard can it be ? you didnt think it would be easy did you ?

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well, I guess I COULD tell you all where to buy regular for about $1.50 a gallon. But that might be considered "stealing" on this site

Ohhh just the thought of it ... stealing, here, never, tut tut... ;-p

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go to commodities in the finance section. unleaded gas delivered in L.A is $1.51 per gallon. delivered in 30 days. it would be cheaper in europe. all you have to do is riddle out how to store 50,000 gallons. how hard can it be ? you didnt think it would be easy did you ?

I see what you mean Lester, well it sounds as though it would work, but no doubt our government would invent some kind of "adjustment tax" losing us any savings to be made.... The other problem is the 50,000 gallons, apart from where to store it, I also need to find 1,040 new friends each using around 48 gallons a month for it to work...

By the way Asda has just dropped unleaded to 84.9p a litre... (a 2p drop in the last week)

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well, I guess I COULD tell you all where to buy regular for about $1.50 a gallon. But that might be considered "stealing" on this site

Ohhh just the thought of it ... stealing, here, never, tut tut... ;-p

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go to commodities in the finance section. unleaded gas delivered in L.A is $1.51 per gallon. delivered in 30 days. it would be cheaper in europe. all you have to do is riddle out how to store 50,000 gallons. how hard can it be ? you didnt think it would be easy did you ?

I see what you mean Lester, well it sounds as though it would work, but no doubt our government would invent some kind of "adjustment tax" losing us any savings to be made.... The other problem is the 50,000 gallons, apart from where to store it, I also need to find 1,040 new friends each using around 48 gallons a month for it to work...

By the way Asda has just dropped unleaded to 84.9p a litre... (a 2p drop in the last week)

over here they dont put road tax on fuel used in boats or farms. can an old fuel tanker hold 50,000 gallons ? Also, on Diesel, dont they also run on corn oil ? Thats about a buck a gallon here. 100 oct is $6.00 a gallon here. that worked out to $1 a mile for me.

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well, I guess I COULD tell you all where to buy regular for about $1.50 a gallon. But that might be considered "stealing" on this site

Ohhh just the thought of it ... stealing, here, never, tut tut... ;-p

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go to commodities in the finance section. unleaded gas delivered in L.A is $1.51 per gallon. delivered in 30 days. it would be cheaper in europe. all you have to do is riddle out how to store 50,000 gallons. how hard can it be ? you didnt think it would be easy did you ?

I see what you mean Lester, well it sounds as though it would work, but no doubt our government would invent some kind of "adjustment tax" losing us any savings to be made.... The other problem is the 50,000 gallons, apart from where to store it, I also need to find 1,040 new friends each using around 48 gallons a month for it to work...

By the way Asda has just dropped unleaded to 84.9p a litre... (a 2p drop in the last week)

over here they dont put road tax on fuel used in boats or farms. can an old fuel tanker hold 50,000 gallons ? Also, on Diesel, dont they also run on corn oil ? Thats about a buck a gallon here. 100 oct is $6.00 a gallon here. that worked out to $1 a mile for me.

and trust me ! if you have 50,000 gallons of $1.50 gasoline----YOU WILL HAVE LOTS OF NEW FRIENDS !

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