The older I got, the more I learned. I may not be able to conclusively prove there is no God, but in all my years I have not seen a single shred of evidence that there is a God, but mountains of evidence indicating that the universe and eveything in it behaves exactly as it would as if there isn't.

Steve

If a person tells you something new and if asked that person can tell you why the new thing is correct there is a reason to accept the new thing as fact. For example if the person says there are photons and when asked starts reciting the century of evidence for photons and won't stop until you say uncle you have one case.

If a person tells you there is one particular god that is real out of the thousands that are not real and cannot recite the thousands of years of evidence this god is the real one why would you assume the onus of disproof is upon you?

He who makes the claim bears the burden of evidencing it.

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Haaretz
Jerusalem Post
The origin of the Yahweh Cult

Science? No....I think instead a yearning to return to the familiar and comfortable. I now chair a committee and sit on another and feel as strong in my faith as ever.

faith == __Comfort_of_childhood

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Unvarnished
Haaretz
Jerusalem Post
The origin of the Yahweh Cult

Science? No....I think instead a yearning to return to the familiar and comfortable. I now chair a committee and sit on another and feel as strong in my faith as ever.

faith == __Comfort_of_childhood

Your point?

Of course faith is what most have been taught from their childhood.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

Vikings used to think they could scare away the "evil" being that was trying to take away the daytime sun by loudly jeering at it, pounding their weapons into the ground and shaking their fists toward the being, not realizing that they just experienced a Solar eclipse.

Actually we really can't say more than some shaman who could not earn an honest living told them that would work.

It is not so much the beliefs but the con artists who make an indecent living off of the beliefs.

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Unvarnished
Haaretz
Jerusalem Post
The origin of the Yahweh Cult

I don't go to church.
That is one thing I and the Catholic faith have in disagreement.
I honor my faith in my Lord every day in thoughts and in prayers.

And I think that is sufficient for Him to accept me.

Some elementary questions if you will.

Why do you think a god would care in the least about what you do?

Why do you think a god wants to be honored?

Why do you think it considers your thoughts and prayers to be honor?

Why do you think your god knows what you think or what you pray?

Why do you think your god considers itself to be your lord?

Why do you think it is not affronted by your use of "my" lord?

What do you think accept means? Accept you as what?

My opinion is you think your god is like some vain emperor who gives a scheisse.

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Unvarnished
Haaretz
Jerusalem Post
The origin of the Yahweh Cult

Science? No....I think instead a yearning to return to the familiar and comfortable. I now chair a committee and sit on another and feel as strong in my faith as ever.

faith == __Comfort_of_childhood

Your point?

Of course faith is what most have been taught from their childhood.

My point is that it is a retreat from adulthood.

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Unvarnished
Haaretz
Jerusalem Post
The origin of the Yahweh Cult

Lots of Facts And Evidence here for NO GOD EXISTS.

But.

The Facts and Evidence do point to Evil. And Evil is a Religion.

Therefore, I conclude there was A Smackdown Many Yarn Ago between GOD and DEVIL.

And The DEVIL Won.

The Facts and Evidence overwelmingly Prove The Existence of The DEVIL.

So, whether one follows a Religion which Believes In A GOD, or one Believes In Science, All Who Believe in either, are, based on The Facts and Evidence Presented, practicing The Religion Of The DEVIL.

Belief is Not Necessary. Facts and Evidence of the Actions of HumanKind over The Last 6000 years(basically Recorded History) Prove The Religion Of The DEVIL is what is Believed And Practiced by Most of HumanKind.

Welcome to Religion Of The DEVIL. Enjoy, and Keep The Faith. Broheims.

DEVILworshippingDullNanDo

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

Science? No....I think instead a yearning to return to the familiar and comfortable. I now chair a committee and sit on another and feel as strong in my faith as ever.

faith == __Comfort_of_childhood

Your point?

Of course faith is what most have been taught from their childhood.

That is a true statement. When a parent teaches a child about religion, it is the religion they were taught by their parents. Rarely does the parent say "Son/daughter, today we are going to teach you religion. Which one would you like us to teach you? Islam, Hindu, Budaism, one of the thousands of forms of Christianity, or something completely different? Would you prefer multi or monothiesm, ancient or current?"

Steve

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I picture asking my 2yo if he wants to learn multithiesm or Budaism.

ROFL

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Allegory.

I asked awhile back if anyone knew the meaning of Allegory. Much of the Bible as I have come to believe is just that. God did Hand down the Comandments to the Jewish Nation. Im greatful to the Jewish Nation for the Law. In other words some of the Bible is not an Allegory.

I aksed if anyone had heard of the aboriginal people of Australia. I added how their word of mouth stories were very accurate. They are very accurate.

I was told that the Bible isn't the Word of God.

I correct you now...

It is the Word of God. Christ lived here and taught here. His Word was kept by passing it down, only 100 years or so before it was written.

"It" was not written all at once, but it was a collection of hundreds of different writings, all passed down not as they were written, but with hundreds of variations. At one point hundreds of years later, it was edited. A group got together, took a bunch of what they had, and said, this stays, this goes. It was never written as one book. It became one book after a compiliation. Now there are still around 5000 different versions of "The Word of God".

Steve

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...only 100 years or so before it was written.

Um, wow I think you need a history lesson. Not that I'm a scholar, or even know much about religion history at all, but I know that the first half of your bible, is from way before Jesus existed. And the new testament, was written for many years after.

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Matt, Mark, Luke, and John were all written down 100 years or so after Christ's death. Im not doing your homework for you.

Matt, Mark, Luke, and John were all written down 100 years or so after Christ's death. Im not doing your homework for you.

oh, wow, 4 books.

And I apologize if my typical "homework" is related to the real world and not mythology. Jesus isn't going to fix the Ubuntu repository for me. Of course if he ever wants to make himself known and participate, in anything, he's more than welcome here.

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I have posted about this book before, but for the tru believer, as well as the non-believer, this is a good read. Bart's other books are very interesting, and well researched and written. I highly reccomend them.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5052156

Steve

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Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group.
GPUUG Website

That link has a listen to link, were Bart talks for over half an hour. It is a really excellent question and answer period. Even if you never read the book, the listen link will provide a huge amount of information. This is really good.

Here is a link to the audio portion.

Steve

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Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group.
GPUUG Website

Matt, Mark, Luke, and John were all written down 100 years or so after Christ's death. Im not doing your homework for you.

Each one embellished the myth a little more. Ascending into heaven after the crucifiction came in at the last and latest book. What evidence is there that Christ actually lived. ? There should be Roman documents still extant for "Nazareth" which did not exist by the way.

You mean you are not one of those who believes that the KJV was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for you?

...only 100 years or so before it was written.

Um, wow I think you need a history lesson. Not that I'm a scholar, or even know much about religion history at all, but I know that the first half of your bible, is from way before Jesus existed. And the new testament, was written for many years after.

ROFL!

If the KJV is good enough for people, why not let me re-write it too? That should be good enough, oh wait, I'm not a king and therefore I wouldn't be right? Or something like that?

But I suppose if I wanted people to follow me, re-writing the Bible to be more promoting of my own cause would be a great idea.

LOL

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Every reference to "God" or "Jesus" could easily be replaced with "Flying Spaghetti Monster". It would have the same effect IMO. Honestly, as a young child I perhaps would have actually been scared of the spaghetti dude, and more willing to follow blindly and obey? Priests yanking on my hair or ears when I made honest observations hardly made me buy into the whole religion thing...

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