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Message 1099527 - Posted: 21 Apr 2011, 23:41:10 UTC

Has anyone else noticed after you install the 270.61 driver your Seti times go up by about 25% without downclocking? I was also having issues with getting downclocked and locking up with that driver. I switched back to 267.24 and the problems go away and my times are back to normal. It seems the GTX 480's don't like that driver in Windows 7 64 bit.
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Message 1099539 - Posted: 22 Apr 2011, 1:09:25 UTC - in response to Message 1099527.

Has anyone else noticed after you install the 270.61 driver your Seti times go up by about 25% without downclocking? I was also having issues with getting downclocked and locking up with that driver. I switched back to 267.24 and the problems go away and my times are back to normal. It seems the GTX 480's don't like that driver in Windows 7 64 bit.


Yes, my GTX 460 also had such issues. I also run Windows 7 x64. I switched back 266.58 and all is well again.
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Message 1099551 - Posted: 22 Apr 2011, 2:01:43 UTC

Everyone is seeing the same issue with the 270.xx drivers, downclocking for no reason and only a reboot gets them back up to normal.

I also went back to 266.58 as that is a stable config for me.
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Message 1099557 - Posted: 22 Apr 2011, 2:24:47 UTC

'Incompatibility of Lunatics CUDA x32f with new 270.61 driver ...'

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Message 1099562 - Posted: 22 Apr 2011, 2:51:37 UTC

Well Yer all not going to like this, I'm running 270.61 under Win7 x64 and I'm running x32f on Boinc 6.10.58 on two GTX295 cards and with no overclocking, purrs like a hot Kitten(79C) with no problems, Of course I cleaned the cards and such recently after finding one of My 6-GTX295 cards now has only one working gpu and It was a higher clocked one too. Bummer.
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Message 1099656 - Posted: 22 Apr 2011, 15:19:50 UTC

Well I was going to install them yesterday. Now I'm glad I waited, after seeing some of you having slow downs and down clocks etc with them I think I'll stick with the 266.58's then. Dang.
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Message 1099662 - Posted: 22 Apr 2011, 15:34:08 UTC

I'm usually one of the first to explore new versions, mostly beta, but something told me not to do it this time. Seeing that a lot of us are having problems especially with GTX400/500 series cards, I'm glad that I didn't, will stick to 266.58 for now.

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Message 1099663 - Posted: 22 Apr 2011, 15:35:32 UTC

I recently bought a second 460 card and windows installed the new driver and I imediately had problems I thought it was my new card but it was the driver that windows update installed.
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Message 1099673 - Posted: 22 Apr 2011, 16:02:07 UTC

These 270.61 drivers may as well be for water cooling as they seem to push the hardware...
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Message 1099774 - Posted: 22 Apr 2011, 20:37:03 UTC - in response to Message 1099673.

These 270.61 drivers may as well be for water cooling as they seem to push the hardware...


This wasn't my issue. With the aftermarket heat sinks I have on my 2 GTX 480's they don't get above 80C in Seti even with them overclocked.
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Message 1099784 - Posted: 22 Apr 2011, 20:54:02 UTC - in response to Message 1099673.
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These 270.61 drivers may as well be for water cooling as they seem to push the hardware...


Well now I gotta find out. I've got a water cooled 480, and the suspense of confirm or deny is eating me alive. I've had friends comment that as far as gaming goes they aren't any worse than the 266.58's. So I'm going to throw them on and see what's up on my rig. Be back.


This wasn't my issue. With the aftermarket heat sinks I have on my 2 GTX 480's they don't get above 80C in Seti even with them overclocked.


Mine doesn't get above 48-50 under water with 26.5c ambient temps. Most of the time lower but the days are getting a bit hot here.

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Well it must only be on the 295 hardware that it's pushing it, I am seeing about a 4C increase in temps though?! I am however not seeing any downclocking at all, and my completion times have only changed by a few seconds to the shorter. Before I installed on was saying 19 minutes to complete now it's dropped to 18 minutes 39 seconds. Any little bit helps though I suppose! Far as I'm concerned like most things I've heard about these drivers they are certainly no worse but not hugely better than the 266.58's on my end.
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Message 1100231 - Posted: 24 Apr 2011, 13:39:55 UTC - in response to Message 1099784.

Well it also seems that the 270.61 drivers show my 480's to have a different amount of ram then it should. They were showing 1472MB ram where they actually have 1503MB. The other drivers show the correct amount of ram though.
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Message 1100245 - Posted: 24 Apr 2011, 15:30:20 UTC - in response to Message 1100231.
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Well it also seems that the 270.61 drivers show my 480's to have a different amount of ram then it should. They were showing 1472MB ram where they actually have 1503MB. The other drivers show the correct amount of ram though.


I think that may be an issue with how BOINC polls the system, or how the driver is reporting it? I had an older version of GPUz that after going to these drivers wouldn't pull the correct amount of memory. After updating that has went away. It's not really an issue I don't think. Mine have been running for the past day or two and everything seems fine on this end, times are still just as fast as they were, no down clocking, trashed work units, computer crashes, and temps have returned to the normal threshold they were at before. Still looking like good drivers on my end, though I still may end up dumping them because I'm not too wild about the "update" manager you can't get rid of and I do have one game that acts weird after awhile and it didn't happen before these drivers.

Overall they seem ok, but they aren't perfect. Going to be rolling back to either the 270.51's or the 266.58's those have seemed to be the most trouble free in everything for me. Just as a side note there are people at f@h who are also reporting issues.
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Message 1100296 - Posted: 24 Apr 2011, 19:24:59 UTC

While on these drivers ....

I run a couple of NV PCI 9500GTs with 258.96 as the driver.

Is ther likely to be a problem with these legacy GPUs if I was to move to 270.61?
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Message 1100372 - Posted: 25 Apr 2011, 1:52:38 UTC - in response to Message 1100245.

Well it also seems that the 270.61 drivers show my 480's to have a different amount of ram then it should. They were showing 1472MB ram where they actually have 1503MB. The other drivers show the correct amount of ram though.


I think that may be an issue with how BOINC polls the system, or how the driver is reporting it? I had an older version of GPUz that after going to these drivers wouldn't pull the correct amount of memory. After updating that has went away. It's not really an issue I don't think. Mine have been running for the past day or two and everything seems fine on this end, times are still just as fast as they were, no down clocking, trashed work units, computer crashes, and temps have returned to the normal threshold they were at before. Still looking like good drivers on my end, though I still may end up dumping them because I'm not too wild about the "update" manager you can't get rid of and I do have one game that acts weird after awhile and it didn't happen before these drivers.

Overall they seem ok, but they aren't perfect. Going to be rolling back to either the 270.51's or the 266.58's those have seemed to be the most trouble free in everything for me. Just as a side note there are people at f@h who are also reporting issues.


Actually I wasn't looking at how Boinc read the ram, I was looking at the EVGA tool. If you look on the Nvidia website there is a lot of talk about the issues with the 270.51 and 270.61.
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Message 1100423 - Posted: 25 Apr 2011, 4:24:52 UTC - in response to Message 1100372.
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Actually I wasn't looking at how Boinc read the ram, I was looking at the EVGA tool. If you look on the Nvidia website there is a lot of talk about the issues with the 270.51 and 270.61.


If you have rolled to SP1 on windows7 it could also be an issue with that, precision crashes one of my machines totally and the other it's fine on, go figure both were updated the same way to SP1. I got one machine they are fine on that hasn't been put into SP1, the other which is SP1, Gaming, and Boinc has caused me some issues, but the memory was reporting correctly in everything now.

With that being said my machine experienced a graphics driver crash when I exited Boinc earlier and quit crunching. Then the machine locked up. Rolled back to 270.51 to see how it does, all else fails there is always 267.24 and 266.58's to roll back to which were trouble free the entire time I used them.

As far as looking at the Nvidia website about issues, there is always issue with every driver they release with a group of vocal people there. The 'beloved' 266.58's in the community, had a lot of people complaining about how bad they were and how awful they are, suppose it's the bain of the computer industry and the mish mosh of hardware and environments there are, each to his own my final determination is these are not good on this computer, but have worked perfect on the other. But there is hardware and environment differences, major ones lol.
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Message 1101544 - Posted: 29 Apr 2011, 1:18:34 UTC

Throw me into the down clocking group gtx580.
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Message 1101563 - Posted: 29 Apr 2011, 2:03:13 UTC

Right after I loaded the 270.61 drivers and rebooted, I got a slight downclock. After verifying the downclock in CPU-Z, the clocks went back to normal and they have stayed that way through multiple reboots and poweroffs. So something must have straightened itself out eventually. No real observed changes in times or temperatures on my dual GTX460's.

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Message 1106066 - Posted: 14 May 2011, 9:20:08 UTC

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Message 1106113 - Posted: 14 May 2011, 12:47:03 UTC - in response to Message 1106066.

Vista 32bit GT240: should I go for it?


I don't think the issue showed up in the 200 series cards.
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