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Tim Read Send message Joined: 9 Nov 99 Posts: 6 Credit: 1,016 RAC: 0 |
I've been a contributer for years. I've just switched to BOINC about five days ago because I had to re-install XP on my main machine. So far, I've completed two work units. Not because my PC can't do it but because it can't download or upload to your servers. They've been down, they've had peering problems with Europe, for goodness sake, ditch Cogent and get a decent company to supply your connectivity. It might cost slightly more but HEY, It'll work! I know you guys are strapped for cash, but really, this sucks big time. |
Captain Avatar Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 15133 Credit: 529,088 RAC: 0 |
<blockquote>I've been a contributer for years. I've just switched to BOINC about five days ago because I had to re-install XP on my main machine. So far, I've completed two work units. Not because my PC can't do it but because it can't download or upload to your servers. They've been down, they've had peering problems with Europe, for goodness sake, ditch Cogent and get a decent company to supply your connectivity. It might cost slightly more but HEY, It'll work! I know you guys are strapped for cash, but really, this sucks big time.</blockquote> Hi Tim, I know it sucks when this stuff happens, But again that's what creating BOINC is all about, Multiple Projects..Less Down time.. I have suggested before and again, Go to Einstein@home and sign up that way you'll be crunching and somewhat happy...You've been around for a long time in classic and like the rest of us we where spoiled by the mundane.... Keep on Crunching and get that 2nd project Going! http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu Einstein@home Has a great Screen saver too! Tim C.A... |
Tim Read Send message Joined: 9 Nov 99 Posts: 6 Credit: 1,016 RAC: 0 |
Less down time? Are you daft? I never experienced trouble like this with SETI on the original system, largely it just worked! And thanks for the suggestion but I don't want to contribute to other projects. I repeat - Ditch Cogent, that appears to be the problem! |
Daniel Michel Send message Joined: 2 Feb 04 Posts: 14925 Credit: 1,378,607 RAC: 6 |
<blockquote>Less down time? Are you daft? I never experienced trouble like this with SETI on the original system, largely it just worked! And thanks for the suggestion but I don't want to contribute to other projects. I repeat - Ditch Cogent, that appears to be the problem! </blockquote> actually COGENT serves both SETI BOINC and CLASSIC...so CLASSIC has been down the same amount of time BOINC has been...and is suffering from the same crush of traffic...this is not a problem specific to BOINC. now if we all would kick in some money every month for the privilege of being a part of this project...then maybe they could afford to spend more on connectivity service...keep in mind...this is not a federal program...so there are not millions of dollars to spend. PROUD TO BE TFFE! |
Captain Avatar Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 15133 Credit: 529,088 RAC: 0 |
<blockquote>Less down time? Are you daft? I never experienced trouble like this with SETI on the original system, largely it just worked! And thanks for the suggestion but I don't want to contribute to other projects. I repeat - Ditch Cogent, that appears to be the problem! </blockquote> Edited because.... |
Captain Avatar Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 15133 Credit: 529,088 RAC: 0 |
<blockquote><blockquote>Less down time? Are you daft? I never experienced trouble like this with SETI on the original system, largely it just worked! And thanks for the suggestion but I don't want to contribute to other projects. I repeat - Ditch Cogent, that appears to be the problem! </blockquote> Edited because....</blockquote> Post Your feelings in Number Crunching..... |
Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
He gives new meaning to the term, "that's classic." |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
Isn't the whole Berkeley Campus connected through Cogent as well? Just let it go down often enough and the students and professors will complain enough for them to change. |
Captain Avatar Send message Joined: 17 May 99 Posts: 15133 Credit: 529,088 RAC: 0 |
<blockquote><blockquote>Less down time? Are you daft? I never experienced trouble like this with SETI on the original system, largely it just worked! And thanks for the suggestion but I don't want to contribute to other projects. I repeat - Ditch Cogent, that appears to be the problem! </blockquote> Edited because....</blockquote> You Know I tried to help you and the first thing you do is insult me..... daft Afflicted with or exhibiting irrationality and mental unsoundness I suggest in the future you post in the correct forum and stop whining . There I cleaned up my thoughts but you get my meaning... |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
* Less down time? Are you daft? I never experienced trouble like this with SETI on the * original system, largely it just worked! And thanks for the suggestion but * I don't want to contribute to other projects. * I repeat - Ditch Cogent, that appears to be the problem! How's this for a bubble popper? When Cogent has SETI/BOINC down, it also has SETI/Classic down. Hmmmm.... Do you remember, a few years back, when Classic was down because of lack of connection to the Internet? Was it SETI's fault? Nope, someone decided they needed the cableing more than SETI. From what I have gathered, the Cogent connection is a "donation" to SETI/Berkeley. That means we all, including SETI, suffer when Cogent goes down. If you can't/won't participate in other projects, than you're the one suffering, not the rest of us. CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Tim Read Send message Joined: 9 Nov 99 Posts: 6 Credit: 1,016 RAC: 0 |
Problems with classic were not evident here over many years on different machines in different locations with different connectivity. Also any problems with classic were not obvious right up until the swap to BOINC. Maybe this is because of the way that the software works - classic worked well, quite possibly because of it's simplicity, or maybe I've just had a particularly bad case of "timing". And of course I understand that funding is an issue. Surely that is part of the reason that people like me all over the world - and not limited to the USA where "Federal funding" is not forthcoming - are willing to help out? IME it's a good idea not to go for the lowest bid without quality guarantees. But point taken, I'll take this to "number crunching" - in the morning, it's nearly midnight here. |
Tim Read Send message Joined: 9 Nov 99 Posts: 6 Credit: 1,016 RAC: 0 |
<blockquote>Â From what I have gathered, the Cogent connection is a "donation" to SETI/Berkeley. </blockquote> Then they should actively seek other sponsors ... If France Telecom disable peering something must be seriously wrong. |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
*** Less down time? Are you daft? I never experienced trouble *** like this with SETI on the original system, largely it *** just worked! And thanks for the suggestion but I *** don't want to contribute to other projects. *** I repeat - Ditch Cogent, that appears to be the problem! ** Edited because.... * You Know I tried to help you and the first thing you do is insult me..... * daft * Afflicted with or exhibiting irrationality and mental unsoundness * I suggest in the future you post in the correct forum and stop whining. * There I cleaned up my thoughts but you get my meaning... Dang, Captain, I missed it. I wouldn't have cleaned it up.... CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Don't you just hate it when people start their rant threads in the Cafe? CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
<blockquote>Don't you just hate it when people start their rant threads in the Cafe? </blockquote> Yes, we hate it! "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me |
Bruno G. Olsen & ESEA @ greenholt Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 875 Credit: 4,386,984 RAC: 0 |
<blockquote>Problems with classic were not evident here over many years on different machines in different locations with different connectivity. Also any problems with classic were not obvious right up until the swap to BOINC. Maybe this is because of the way that the software works - classic worked well, quite possibly because of it's simplicity, or maybe I've just had a particularly bad case of "timing". </blockquote> It must be bad timing that makes you notice things like this more as just last fall all h*ll broke loose at classic - interestingly a connectivety problem that didn't affect boinc, only classic - and that outage was afair more than 24 hours long - apparently you missed that one, but many didn't - oddly a huge number of crunchers blamed the berkeley guys... Seems they can't do anything right in some peoples eyes.. |
Bruno G. Olsen & ESEA @ greenholt Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 875 Credit: 4,386,984 RAC: 0 |
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Tim Read Send message Joined: 9 Nov 99 Posts: 6 Credit: 1,016 RAC: 0 |
</blockquote> You Know I tried to help you and the first thing you do is insult me..... </blockquote> Really? You solved my connectivity problem singlehandedly? Nope. Doesn't sound like help. |
Fuzzy Hollynoodles Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0 |
<blockquote></blockquote> You Know I tried to help you and the first thing you do is insult me..... </blockquote> Really? You solved my connectivity problem singlehandedly? Nope. Doesn't sound like help.</blockquote> "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me |
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