Some weird problem I have been experiencing which isn't directly related to Linux, I think. When I go to log into Winders, my time is off by about 6 hours or so. I have to re-sync to get the time back to real time. This is in Winders. The date is fine, only the time is off. The time in Linux is just fine.

Six hours sounds like the likely offset between local time and UTC (although I don't know exactly which time zone you are in in the USA).

Check - separately - that you are set to the correct time zone in both Linux and Windows. Then, set the display to your local time. All three of Linux, Windows, and BOINC operate internally on UTC, and apply an offset to display the correct local time. They should remain in lockstep once you have the correct operating system timezones set.

Hi Richard,

I'm in UTC -6 Central Time Zone in the U.S. I have checked both OS settings and both are set correctly. Linux boots up with the correct time, Winders does not. Probably a good indication as to which OS is the better one? ;)

I forgot to check the BIOS. Rob mentioned that sometimes it would slip. But that doesn't make sense. If it was the BIOS, I would think both OS's would be off, not just one.

Anyway, I'm not gonna worry too much about it right now. I'll just do the manual sync in settings when I boot into Winders. Right now I'm more interested in getting Linux Mint set up, and BOINC too. Still need to get remote access going too. I don't want to have to do that in Winders also.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Some weird problem I have been experiencing which isn't directly related to Linux, I think. When I go to log into Winders, my time is off by about 6 hours or so. I have to re-sync to get the time back to real time. This is in Winders. The date is fine, only the time is off. The time in Linux is just fine.

Six hours sounds like the likely offset between local time and UTC (although I don't know exactly which time zone you are in in the USA).

Check - separately - that you are set to the correct time zone in both Linux and Windows. Then, set the display to your local time. All three of Linux, Windows, and BOINC operate internally on UTC, and apply an offset to display the correct local time. They should remain in lockstep once you have the correct operating system timezones set.

Hi Richard,

I'm in UTC -6 Central Time Zone in the U.S. I have checked both OS settings and both are set correctly. Linux boots up with the correct time, Winders does not. Probably a good indication as to which OS is the better one? ;)

I forgot to check the BIOS. Rob mentioned that sometimes it would slip. But that doesn't make sense. If it was the BIOS, I would think both OS's would be off, not just one.

Anyway, I'm not gonna worry too much about it right now. I'll just do the manual sync in settings when I boot into Winders. Right now I'm more interested in getting Linux Mint set up, and BOINC too. Still need to get remote access going too. I don't want to have to do that in Winders also.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

Siran,

Set RealTimeIsUniversal=1 in Windows.

Remember to Set BIOS Clock to UTC First. THEN go to Step 2 in the Instructions at the Link, above, and IF your Windows is 64-Bit USE "QWORD" for the "RealTimeIsUniversal=1" Registry Hack.

I do this for my Hackintosh, otherwise Windows Clock is ALWAYS wrong when logging back into Windows after being in MacOS. The "RealTimeIsUniversal=1" Hack saved me from MUCH ANGUISH on the Windows side of things.


TL

[EDIT:]

The Instructions state this is for Win 10, BUT, this ALSO works in Win 7.


TL

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Some weird problem I have been experiencing which isn't directly related to Linux, I think. When I go to log into Winders, my time is off by about 6 hours or so. I have to re-sync to get the time back to real time. This is in Winders. The date is fine, only the time is off. The time in Linux is just fine.

Six hours sounds like the likely offset between local time and UTC (although I don't know exactly which time zone you are in in the USA).

Check - separately - that you are set to the correct time zone in both Linux and Windows. Then, set the display to your local time. All three of Linux, Windows, and BOINC operate internally on UTC, and apply an offset to display the correct local time. They should remain in lockstep once you have the correct operating system timezones set.

Hi Richard,

I'm in UTC -6 Central Time Zone in the U.S. I have checked both OS settings and both are set correctly. Linux boots up with the correct time, Winders does not. Probably a good indication as to which OS is the better one? ;)

I forgot to check the BIOS. Rob mentioned that sometimes it would slip. But that doesn't make sense. If it was the BIOS, I would think both OS's would be off, not just one.

Anyway, I'm not gonna worry too much about it right now. I'll just do the manual sync in settings when I boot into Winders. Right now I'm more interested in getting Linux Mint set up, and BOINC too. Still need to get remote access going too. I don't want to have to do that in Winders also.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

Siran,

Set RealTimeIsUniversal=1 in Windows.

Remember to Set BIOS Clock to UTC First. THEN go to Step 2 in the Instructions at the Link, above, and IF your Windows is 64-Bit USE "QWORD" for the "RealTimeIsUniversal=1" Registry Hack.

I do this for my Hackintosh, otherwise Windows Clock is ALWAYS wrong when logging back into Windows after being in MacOS. The "RealTimeIsUniversal=1" Hack saved me from MUCH ANGUISH on the Windows side of things.


TL

[EDIT:]

The Instructions state this is for Win 10, BUT, this ALSO works in Win 7.


TL

Scott, thanks for that. Got one question left, though. If I do change winders to UTC, is it smart enough when I use Remote Desktop to another Doze machine that hasn't been changed to not screw with the file times?

Still need to get remote access going too. I don't want to have to do that in Winders also.

I don't know what Mint has available for a remote client. Maybe the same Remmina that Ubuntu does? Look for it in Software. That is the easiest solution since it is already provided. You can SSH or VNC into any remote client that has SSH available. Remmina suffices for me to access my SBC computers.

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Still need to get remote access going too. I don't want to have to do that in Winders also.

I don't know what Mint has available for a remote client. Maybe the same Remmina that Ubuntu does? Look for it in Software. That is the easiest solution since it is already provided. You can SSH or VNC into any remote client that has SSH available. Remmina suffices for me to access my SBC computers.

Hi Keith,

Yeah, I was looking at that on the Internet. I don't have it, but since Mint is based on Ubuntu, it should work. My thing is installing from a download. Will need to figure that one out. It's easy enough in Software Manager. lol :)

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

You just add the new client by setting a name, desired protocol, the IP address of the remote client and the password for the remote client. Then connect.

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Still need to get remote access going too. I don't want to have to do that in Winders also.

I don't know what Mint has available for a remote client. Maybe the same Remmina that Ubuntu does? Look for it in Software. That is the easiest solution since it is already provided. You can SSH or VNC into any remote client that has SSH available. Remmina suffices for me to access my SBC computers.

Hi Keith,

Ok, I went and installed Remmina using Snap once I had that installed. This is the snap procedure I used. Where did Snap put Remmina? I cannot find it anywhere. :(

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Mine is located in the same /usr/share/applications directory where all my other applications are found. Did you try a Search in Software?

[Edit] Snap applications are in the Snap folder which is /home/keith/snap on my system.

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krdc works well too.

Mine is located in the same /usr/share/applications directory where all my other applications are found. Did you try a Search in Software?

[Edit] Snap applications are in the Snap folder which is /home/keith/snap on my system.

Yeah, ok, I found it! Why can't this be straight forward? I see no way to use the program. This is one of the things that has always turned me off about Linux. They can't just go "Ok, we're installing your program, almost done, ok we're done. Here's the button to click to run the program. Enjoy!" They put this stuff all over the drive, duplicate and triplicate files in 2 or 3 different locations and expect you to know where it is and how to run the program. I found no file with a gear on the icon like the boincmgr file. Nothing!

I guess now I have to search the Internet on HOW to run the program Remmina. sheesh... :(

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Hi Siran,

Are you using Cinnamon, Mate, or Xfce for your desktop?

I'm setting up a virtualbox VM with Mint in it -

IG

Hi Siran,

Are you using Cinnamon, Mate, or Xfce for your desktop?

I'm setting up a virtualbox VM with Mint in it -

IG

Hi IG,

I'm using Cinnamon.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

I installed Remmina as a standard app through the repository.

sudo apt install remmina

And it created a standard desktop file just as any normal program would and the desktop file is in the Applications folder and also in the usr/share/applications directory. It has a normal application icon and a click is all that is required to start it.

All my snap applications create a standard application icon in the Applications folder. You can't determine from the icon in the Applications folder whether the app is a standard app or a snap app. One way to see what snap applications are installed is to issue a

snap list

in the Terminal.

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Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours

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I installed Remmina as a standard app through the repository.

sudo apt install remmina

And it created a standard desktop file just as any normal program would and the desktop file is in the Applications folder and also in the usr/share/applications directory. It has a normal application icon and a click is all that is required to start it.

All my snap applications create a standard application icon in the Applications folder. You can't determine from the icon in the Applications folder whether the app is a standard app or a snap app. One way to see what snap applications are installed is to issue a

snap list

in the Terminal.

Hi Keith,

I'm back in Winders right now. I have no desktop file for snap or remmina. I do have one for Firefox and one other (can't remember off hand).

I used the snap list command and it shows remmina.

I have gone through every folder on the Mint menu and there is NO WAY to run remmina. It does not show up at all. I looked in the repository and there is no program remmina. I started to look in synaptic but that interface is so damned confusing it should be nuked. lol I'm just hoping I don't find out that I have to run remmina in the terminal. Please don't tell me I have to. ;)

I'll be back in Linux in about an hour or so.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Please run

snap run remmina

from the Terminal. Once you open and stop it, it should show up in your Applications list because a desktop file was created. Looks like the snap version of Remmina does not create the desktop file automatically.

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Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours

A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association)

If you are still having issues with snap Remmina, I would remove it and install the normal repository version of Remmina.

snap remove remmina

From the Remmina website, they acknowledge the snap version has many bugs and lacking features that are not present in the normal version.

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Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours

A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association)

Please run

snap run remmina

from the Terminal. Once you open and stop it, it should show up in your Applications list because a desktop file was created. Looks like the snap version of Remmina does not create the desktop file automatically.

Hi Keith,

Got it! Thanks! I never would have thought of that. I do have the Remmina program file icon now in the Mint menu.

So, let's see what other trouble I can get myself into. lol ;)

Thanks again and have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

If you are still having issues with snap Remmina, I would remove it and install the normal repository version of Remmina.

snap remove remmina

From the Remmina website, they acknowledge the snap version has many bugs and lacking features that are not present in the normal version.

Hi Keith,

Done and done. Snap version of Remmina removed and repository installed. The icon is different then the snap version. :)

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Greetings,

Woohoo! Makin' some headway with Remmina. I can connect to 2 of my 5 remotes. My Linux Mint v19.1 box through VNC and my laptop running Win 7 through RDP. I get an authorization error or something of the sort with my 3 Pis. They are all running a VNC server like my other Linux box, but Remmina does not detect them.

So, if I've gotten this far with remote access, I should get at least as far with BOINCTasks, yet I'm not. :(

I'll just keep pluggin' away. :)

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Some weird problem I have been experiencing which isn't directly related to Linux, I think. When I go to log into Winders, my time is off by about 6 hours or so. I have to re-sync to get the time back to real time. This is in Winders. The date is fine, only the time is off. The time in Linux is just fine.

Six hours sounds like the likely offset between local time and UTC (although I don't know exactly which time zone you are in in the USA).

Check - separately - that you are set to the correct time zone in both Linux and Windows. Then, set the display to your local time. All three of Linux, Windows, and BOINC operate internally on UTC, and apply an offset to display the correct local time. They should remain in lockstep once you have the correct operating system timezones set.

Hi Richard,

I'm in UTC -6 Central Time Zone in the U.S. I have checked both OS settings and both are set correctly. Linux boots up with the correct time, Winders does not. Probably a good indication as to which OS is the better one? ;)

I forgot to check the BIOS. Rob mentioned that sometimes it would slip. But that doesn't make sense. If it was the BIOS, I would think both OS's would be off, not just one.

Anyway, I'm not gonna worry too much about it right now. I'll just do the manual sync in settings when I boot into Winders. Right now I'm more interested in getting Linux Mint set up, and BOINC too. Still need to get remote access going too. I don't want to have to do that in Winders also.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

Siran,

Set RealTimeIsUniversal=1 in Windows.

Remember to Set BIOS Clock to UTC First. THEN go to Step 2 in the Instructions at the Link, above, and IF your Windows is 64-Bit USE "QWORD" for the "RealTimeIsUniversal=1" Registry Hack.

I do this for my Hackintosh, otherwise Windows Clock is ALWAYS wrong when logging back into Windows after being in MacOS. The "RealTimeIsUniversal=1" Hack saved me from MUCH ANGUISH on the Windows side of things.


TL

[EDIT:]

The Instructions state this is for Win 10, BUT, this ALSO works in Win 7.


TL

Scott, thanks for that. Got one question left, though. If I do change winders to UTC, is it smart enough when I use Remote Desktop to another Doze machine that hasn't been changed to not screw with the file times?

Gary,

Sorry this took so long. I've been out of the house since about 9AM - Pacific. Just got back in the door and settled back in the house, now. (2:45 PM - Pacific.)

idk - I haven't Remoted in to another System from my Hackintosh, (NOT on MacOS, NOR in Win 7 Pro x64), so I can't 100% answer. From what I do know, this Reg Hack for Windows JUST affects the Local Machine. So, my best guess is that you SHOULDN'T have any issues with Times on Files. Again, from my knowledge of what this Reg Hack does, is just allows Windows to keep correct time when switching from MacOS/Linux/Unix back into Win 7/10.

Keeping the BIOS on UTC does NOT seem to affect MacOS/Linux/Unix. These Systems keep time from the Region set at time of Install. I believe Ubuntu gives you the Option of "Los Angeles" as "Pacific Time Zone" to choose from the list of Zones. I can't honestly remember what Zone MacOS had me choose, IIRC though, I think it "calls home" to Cupertino as "Pacific Time Zone". Once MacOS/Linux/Unix are set, it DOESN'T seem to matter what the BIOS is set for, the OS keeps track via the Zone chosen. Can't say what Windows "tries" to keep track of; BUT, once the BIOS is set to UTC and the Reg Hack of "RealTimeIsUniversal=1" is set, Windows does manage to keep correct time from then on in a Dual Boot Environment.

Good Luck my friend. 😀


TL

[EDIT:]

Just remembered something... While NOT Remote Desktop Oriented... I HAVE copied files from the MacOS Drive while in MacOS to the Windows Drive, (via Paragon's NTFS for Mac), and when going back into Windows the File Time on the copied File is what it was as written by MacOS.


TL

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