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Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
If you're in the middle of re-caching, you might have 100 tasks waiting to download. You can multi-select, then leave the mouse pointer hovering over 'Retry'. Click as much as you want, and the retries will be continuous. Eventually, one will latch on, and you can walk away.B) The download list supports multi-select. Click, shift-click, Retry Now, put the kettle on. (Once selected, they stay selected, so it's just 'Retry' next time.) |
Jimbocous Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1856 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 |
Whatever has been done has helped, but the underlying issue is still there and needs to be addressed. Definitely getting sick again, from what I can see. It may be a long weekend ... |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13854 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Definitely getting sick again, from what I can see. It may be a long weekend ... It certainly affects the faster systems the most. If only returning a few WUs at a time, even when the downloads time out on their first attempt, a couple of times in a row the backoffs aren't too silly. However if you've got a lot of work to return and the first few tries don't succeed while the backoffs aren't too bad, if you miss on the next attempt then things degrade quickly. And even only trying to download 1 WU at a time, after those first couple of failed attempts things can quickly spiral to multi hour backoffs. And even when things go well, the more WUs you have to download, the greater the chance that even after getting them downloading there will be one (or more) that doesn't download & just times out & blows out the project backoffs even more. Grant Darwin NT |
Brent Norman Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835 |
Yea its definitely still a problem - Not a Glitch, LOL. I went back to 1 task downloads with much better results than 4, but still a few go to backoffs and have to do retries every so often to keep things going. |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
Definitely getting sick again, from what I can see. It may be a long weekend ... +1 Exactly the case I am observing. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
Yea its definitely still a problem - Not a Glitch, LOL. I set the cc_config back to stock two tasks and still having issues. I have tried on this daily driver to revert to last night's single task download temporarily and it isn't helping either, just as with yesterday, still the chance you will be left with at least one stuck download which blows everything out. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Brent Norman Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835 |
I see the AP Assimilator (synergy) kicked back in as well.I think the current round of download issues could be associated with synergy trying to clear the historical large AP assimilation. Synergy is also the scheduling server, scheduler process , and feeder. |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
Still getting stuck tasks on all hosts leading to multi hour backoffs. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13854 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
Still getting stuck tasks on all hosts leading to multi hour backoffs. Beat me to it- looks like we're almost back to where we were yesterday. 50+ retries to get a single WU to upload, a couple more follow, then it all grinds to a halt again with 6+ hour backoffs. Grant Darwin NT |
Brent Norman Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835 |
I'm having really good luck here, but continually watching BoincTasks transfers. Even with a 1 task limit, inevitably the first 1 or 2 downloads fail, but the remaining will start up. By clicking retry on those first 2 while the other downloads are in progress the entire batch goes through. It's just establishing that first connection that's a pain. And seems even more so on my slower computers trying for 1 or 2 tasks. A pain to get them started ... |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13854 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
It's just establishing that first connection that's a pain. And seems even more so on my slower computers trying for 1 or 2 tasks. A pain to get them started ... Physically a pain. I've given up as my wrist & hand is sore from the number of times I've clicked on Retry now with no luck. Grant Darwin NT |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13854 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
I don't want to tempt fate, but maybe things are finally working again? One of my systems managed to clear some of it's downloads when the backoff time was reached, and a retry cleared the others. And 2 Scheduler requests since then have resulted in downloads not timing out (even though slower than usual, and taking several seconds to actually start- but at least it's not an instant timeout). Gave Retry pending transfers another go on my other system, and they too cleared. And the following Scheduler request resulted in WUs that downloaded themselves. Maybe, maybe...? Grant Darwin NT |
Brent Norman Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835 |
Yes it seems better the last 15 minutes. But still the odd straggler that starts the backoffs if not caught. |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
It's just establishing that first connection that's a pain. And seems even more so on my slower computers trying for 1 or 2 tasks. A pain to get them started ... I know what you mean. My hand goes numb from resting on the table clicking the mouse for retries. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
Mine isn't that bad... 50 at a time download, 43 complete, 7 in back off but then I manually retry those and all complete the download. So, for me it's getting better. |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 29 Apr 01 Posts: 13164 Credit: 1,160,866,277 RAC: 1,873 |
Mine isn't that bad... 50 at a time download, 43 complete, 7 in back off but then I manually retry those and all complete the download. So, for me it's getting better. Yes, doable. But requires constant manual intervention. BOINC is supposed to be a hand's off and everything runs on its own program. Not for high production hosts though. At least with the current state of the flaky servers. I expect to be seeing cold iron tomorrow morning like this morning and spend the day trying to unstick downloads to rebuild the caches. They need to revisit the download servers again and see what changed before the outage yesterday morning and things were working normally. Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association) |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13854 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
They need to revisit the download servers again and see what changed before the outage yesterday morning and things were working normally. Or what did they do during the outage that killed them so successfully? Grant Darwin NT |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
. . Well the site is back up, the forums are back up and I was able to report work. But! Back to the usual post outage "no tasks available" :( . . What was that song? 2 out of 3 something or other :) . . Hey! I just got 3 tasks, and 2 stalled in d/ls :( Talk about jinxing myself ... Stephen :) |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Greetings, https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=82901&postid=1983098#1983098 Have a great day! :) Siran CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Ian&Steve C. Send message Joined: 28 Sep 99 Posts: 4267 Credit: 1,282,604,591 RAC: 6,640 |
i reported work and was able to get 63 tasks on one system, and a few on another. but the same problem as before with the downloads. requiring many many retries before they finally download. Seti@Home classic workunits: 29,492 CPU time: 134,419 hours |
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