win 10 good. but dam you got to dig deep and turn off/turn on certain tings. that annoy me to no end.

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Eliminate the variables. Don't use the standard data mix which varies hour by hour. Use the benchmarking tools and control the variables by using the same exact tasks in all test scenarios. So the only variable is NUMA versus UMA.

Developing a Multi-Threaded Benchmarking App for Linux

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Eliminate the variables. Don't use the standard data mix which varies hour by hour. Use the benchmarking tools and control the variables by using the same exact tasks in all test scenarios. So the only variable is NUMA versus UMA.

Developing a Multi-Threaded Benchmarking App for Linux

I would love to but I am not technically competent to do any of that. Most of the tools that I think are referred to in that thread are for AMD gpus. I might be confused though.

And I am working on an dual Intel cpu under Linux. So if I were looking for benchmark tools for Linux cpu crunching.... I bet the Lunatics project has them :) Hmmmmm..... oh well, the Seti server is screwed up enough I probably am not going to get anything for the next 24 hours.

Back up project, Ahoy!

Tom

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That thread has nothing to do with AMD gpus. That thread is solely regarding Rick's cpu app and gpu app benchmarking tool. Download it, set your NUMA or UMA mode in the BIOS and set the N number of tasks you want to run. Read the instructions. Comment out the gpu apps and any cpu apps you don't want to benchmark. So comment everything out except for the r3711 SSE41 app that comes in TBar's package in the BENCH.cfg file. Put in your N number of concurrent cpu threads you want to run and execute ./benchMT. Done deal. Wait for the benchmark to finish. It already comes with a sample of current BLC and Arecibo tasks but you can add your own into the WU_test directory if you want. It's not rocket science. Rick made it simple to use.

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That thread has nothing to do with AMD gpus. That thread is solely regarding Rick's cpu app and gpu app benchmarking tool. Download it, set your NUMA or UMA mode in the BIOS and set the N number of tasks you want to run. Read the instructions. Comment out the gpu apps and any cpu apps you don't want to benchmark. So comment everything out except for the r3711 SSE41 app that comes in TBar's package in the BENCH.cfg file. Put in your N number of concurrent cpu threads you want to run and execute ./benchMT. Done deal. Wait for the benchmark to finish. It already comes with a sample of current BLC and Arecibo tasks but you can add your own into the WU_test directory if you want. It's not rocket science. Rick made it simple to use.

I am glad it is not rocket science. Never-the-less I missed something and it error-ed out. I will take up the question of what I am (again) doing wrong back on Ricks Thread.

Tom

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I think the online retailers are beginning to unload their excess AMD Ryzen 2000 series processors in anticipation for the Ryzen 3000 series coming in June. There are some great deals now with lots of $$ knocked off the usual prices. Tom's Hardware has an article. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-2000-series-cpu-deals-sale,38914.html

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Hallelujah!

When I use the search function on my computer, it's because I want to search my computer, not the Internet. If I wanted to search the Internet, I would use a search engine. Which is rather annoying as a previous Windows Update clobbered the blocking of the web search on the desktop.

However it is now possible once again to be able to do a search on your computer, and nothing but your computer, without a whole lot of unrelated web rubbish being brought up in what is meant to be a search just on your computer.

How to disable the Web search in the Win10 desktop search.

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I have removed all the gtx 1060 3GB's from here https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=8676008 in preparation for the gpu testing that I am getting ready to do on a couple of 3 different motherboards. So as a by product of the testing, I expect the RAC to drop.

Tom

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is it a bug or something. with pc stat on site? with more the 1 gpu put into the pc.
i have a 580 and a 460. in stats on site it simple picking the 460 model

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Greetings,

This is my newest (old) host attached to SETI just about 30 minutes ago. It has a boatload of WUs and even has one that has finished and reported. So, why does the details and tasks pages say that that host does not exist? :| It shows on the computers list page.

One other thing, BOINCTasks cannot seem to find that host either. :|

By the way, it's my Linux box running stock apps right now.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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I finally got the Linux box seen by BOINCTasks. Woohoo! :)
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I think is has a lot to do with the fact that there are server problems. I tried to follow your link and it told me Computer Not Found.

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I think is has a lot to do with the fact that there are server problems. I tried to follow your link and it told me Computer Not Found.

Hi Bill,

Yeah, that's what I see. Try clicking my username and then the computers link and you will see it listed.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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is it a bug or something. with pc stat on site? with more the 1 gpu put into the pc.
i have a 580 and a 460. in stats on site it simple picking the 460 model

Might be something to do with the servers being messed up now. But BOINC can be strange on how it identifies a host with multiple gpus. I never found any solid rule about how it decides which card to proclaim has multiples. Used to think it had something to do with the PCIe BusID and which one was lower or higher. Then I thought it had something to do with which card got added last. Now I just say, it is one of the mysteries of BOINC and don't worry about it anymore. If you need to determine which card a task ran on, then you have to look at the stderr.txt output which identifies which card ran the task.

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Not a mystery at all - it's written in code.

The one reported to the servers is the "most capable", and all others are duplicates of that. Most capable is defined...

...For NVidia:

// factors (decreasing priority):
// - compute capability
// - software version
// - available memory
// - speed

...For AMD:

// criteria:
//
// - double precision support
// - local RAM
// - speed

Not a mystery at all - it's written in code.

The one reported to the servers is the "most capable", and all others are duplicates of that. Most capable is defined...

...For NVidia:

// factors (decreasing priority):
// - compute capability
// - software version
// - available memory
// - speed

...For AMD:

// criteria:
//
// - double precision support
// - local RAM
// - speed

While I appreciate the info, I can say that it doesn't always work as desired. I've had a system in the past that had 1x 1060 in the first slot on the motherboard. and 6x 1080ti's hooked to the other slots. the system reported that there were 7x 1060s, despite the 1060 being inferior in every category except CC (where being equal). swapping the 1080ti for the 1060 position-wise, caused the system to then report 7x 1080tis. and i've seen other cases where the same system changed which GPU was reported just based on the BOINC version used with no changes to what GPUs are in the system (I can assume this criteria is and has been static for some time).

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Consider whether the card in slot zero, or the card driving the monitor (which may or may not be the same thing) might have a different concept of "Available" memory.

Else, codewalk from https://github.com/BOINC/boinc/blob/master/client/gpu_nvidia.cpp#L134

Cards will only be swapped in the list if the later one in the enumeration is actively 'better' than the earlier one. Assume enumeration proceeds in hardware order: report first UNLESS there's a significant reason for swapping them.

in the 1060/1080ti case. the 1060 was in slot "0" which is usually the topmost x16 PCIe slot, and was indeed driving the monitor.

a 1060 has 6GB of memory, a 1080ti has 11GB of memory

i can only recall the experience i had. unfortunately this system is not configured in the same way anymore. but i had the same experience when swapping the 1060 for a 1080 (driving the monitor in the primary PCIe slot). the system reported 7x 1080s, instead of 7x 1080tis, which it shouldnt have done according to the hierarchy you've described.

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Greetings,

Well, the Linux box has now acquired some credit and I'm still being told the computer does not exist. :(

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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Greetings,

Well, the Linux box has now acquired some credit and I'm still being told the computer does not exist. :(

Have a great day! :)

Siran

Well the replica (where account details are accessed) is currently around 7 hours behind the master, so depending when you created it the machine may not appear for a while.

I echo Ian's experience. I had a 4 card system with a 1080Ti in the top #0 slot driving the monitor. Then two 1080's in the middle slots and finally added a 1060 to the last bottom slot. Guess what? The system was identified as having four 1060's. The 1060 6GB had the same CC as the rest but only 6GB of memory compared to the 8GB and 11GB of memory of the 1080 Ti.

So the Nvidia rules in gpu_nvidia.cpp seemed to break down Richard.

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