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Transferring work units from a dead laptop
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Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
I had a laptop die yesterday morning. I've bought a new PC and the drive from the dead laptop is removed and enclosed in an external drive case. Several years ago, someone told me how I could move the workunits I had already received to the now dead laptop to the new computer and it worked. Anyone remember how to do this? Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
Brent Norman Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835 |
If I'm reading this right, you had an AMD CPU with AMD GPU, and New computer is Intel with Intel GPU .. If the hardware was similar I would say to place the BOINC folder in the same place as it use to be C/prog/BOINC ... and just run it (and let seti issue a new computer ID), but with things being that much different it will probably just toss all the tasks because of hardware/app mismatch - which might be a good thing in the end to release the tasks in progress to others. I think it was only 44, but it helps. It could likely be done with editing the client_state to new apps and plan_classes, but is it worth it? |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Wouldn't it. at worst, toss the ones that had been started? Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
AMDave Send message Joined: 9 Mar 01 Posts: 234 Credit: 11,671,730 RAC: 0 |
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Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Wouldn't it. at worst, toss the ones that had been started? Does it help to know that I do not currently (and did not, recently, on the dead laptop) have any of the optimized apps running? I do see in the post you linked that it would discard the 5 work units that were being worked on, but would anything worse happen? I now seem to recall I have to have BOINC not running when I make the transfer of files. Correct? I have the BOINC folders open both on the PC and the external drive. Which folder are workunits stored in? Is it a hidden folder? Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22205 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Not really - the best you can hope for is that mounting the hard drive from your dead laptop and pointing BOINC to use that SETI data directory will allow you to complete those tasks already there, but given the significant change in underlying hardware I would guess that they are going to be lost to you, returned to the servers and sent out to someone else rather than sitting around waiting to time out. It would certainly be far easier to do a clean installation on your shiny new laptop, get some nice clean tasks, the "right" set of apps, and say "farewell" to those tasks that were sitting on your departed and missed laptop. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34768 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Sarge I usually just copy the 2 BOINC folders (1 is hidden by default in C:\ProgramData\BOINC) to where I want them on the new system (I always install to my D:\ drive), run a BOINC repair and then let it run. Cheers. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
No luck. Found the folder on the new PC and the workunits, but then searched for \ProgramData\BOINC in the external drive, with "show hidden folders" selected/ Could not be found. Maybe I'll try one more time with a different search engine, but if not .... . Is there a way to cancel the workunits so they're sent to someone else, rather than waiting for the due date to pass? (An online way to cancel, since of course I can't turn on the old laptop and cancel within BOINC.) Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
-= Vyper =- Send message Joined: 5 Sep 99 Posts: 1652 Credit: 1,065,191,981 RAC: 2,537 |
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Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Was it a Windows XP computer? No, Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
Search for account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml on the old computer's hard drive. That'll ought to get you to the correct directory. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Search for account_setiathome.berkeley.edu.xml on the old computer's hard drive. That'll ought to get you to the correct directory. Don't know if it is the search you provided me versus Wiggo's, or that I used the program Kuriuz to seach this time (hate Windows 10 searching), but I found it. Which file types should be moved? Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
File types I'm pretty sure I should not transfer: Application Application extension (.dll) JPG PNG Text Not sure: BIN CL VLAR Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
File types I'm pretty sure I should not transfer: ? Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes. |
Brent Norman Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835 |
Just shutdown any BOINC program you have running and click on BOINC.exe on the external drive and see what happens. |
Stephen "Heretic" Send message Joined: 20 Sep 12 Posts: 5557 Credit: 192,787,363 RAC: 628 |
Not really - the best you can hope for is that mounting the hard drive from your dead laptop and pointing BOINC to use that SETI data directory will allow you to complete those tasks already there, but given the significant change in underlying hardware I would guess that they are going to be lost to you, returned to the servers and sent out to someone else rather than sitting around waiting to time out. . . I am probably way too late and I may be off line but what I would do is fire up the new laptop with the drive attached but DO NOT run BOINC. Then I would run BOINC install using the advanced option to point it to the existing folders on the recovered drive. The install will recognise the current installation and should preserve the BOINC ID and simply install the appropriate drivers for the new hardware. Any WUs that had been running when the crash occured will error out {unless they had not been running long enough to save a checkpoint, in which case they may simply restart at zero} but the other units should load and work OK with the new apps. And this would preserve the ID stats that were built up prior to the crash. . . Well that is what I would do. Stephen |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
The whole point is moot. Seti will at some point resend all lost WUs. It may take some time, but it shall be done. There is no lost work on Seti. Get over it and move on. Meowfreakingmeow. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
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