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Lionel Send message Joined: 25 Mar 00 Posts: 680 Credit: 563,640,304 RAC: 597 |
Under preferences, just noticed this: SETI@home v7: no AstroPulse v7: yes SETI@home v8: no |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 36829 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
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Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Greetings, When I first saw this thread, I checked my preferences and they were set: Run only the selected applications: SETI@home v7: yes AstroPulse v7: yes SETI@home v8: no This morning when I checked BOINC I found that I now have v8 in my WU list so I checked my preferences here again and this time they are set: Run only the selected applications: SETI@home v7: yes AstroPulse v7: yes SETI@home v8: yes So... How is it that my preferences can be changed WITHOUT any interaction from myself? Keep on BOINCing...! :) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Phil Burden Send message Joined: 26 Oct 00 Posts: 264 Credit: 22,303,899 RAC: 0 |
How odd, my prefs have also changed to include v8...Is Microsoft's prediliction for control spreading to Boinc/Seti I wonder ;-) P. |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
So... How is it that my preferences can be changed WITHOUT any interaction from myself? It's the default setting, the project will want everyone capable to change to version 8 without too much fuss and before version 7 work is no longer split and people will then run out of work. So the default option setting NOW is a checked version 8. You have the choice to deselect it. |
Michael McGrath Send message Joined: 13 Jun 15 Posts: 310 Credit: 1,075,745 RAC: 0 |
I just noticed I've had 11 version 8 tasks downloaded....but i'm still running version 7.6.9....how will that work plz ? :P |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
I just noticed I've had 11 version 8 tasks downloaded....but i'm still running version 7.6.9....how will that work plz ? :P Version 8 of SETI, version 7 of BOINC. They're different programs, but they work together. |
Michael McGrath Send message Joined: 13 Jun 15 Posts: 310 Credit: 1,075,745 RAC: 0 |
I just noticed I've had 11 version 8 tasks downloaded....but i'm still running version 7.6.9....how will that work plz ? :P Oh I see...i thought they meant version 8 of boinc ...so i don't need to do anything then :-) wonder how long they'll take to add gpu tasks? before the others run out I hope :-) thanks :-) |
Cliff Harding Send message Joined: 18 Aug 99 Posts: 1432 Credit: 110,967,840 RAC: 67 |
I've gotten 74 v8 tasks so far and they all seem to be from Arecibo, so I'm wondering when we will we start getting tasks from Green Bank? I don't buy computers, I build them!! |
Bill G Send message Joined: 1 Jun 01 Posts: 1282 Credit: 187,688,550 RAC: 182 |
Very first V8 task to run on my laptop gave a -9 overflow. Should I be worried? http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/workunit.php?wuid=2024617856 SETI@home classic workunits 4,019 SETI@home classic CPU time 34,348 hours |
Juha Send message Joined: 7 Mar 04 Posts: 388 Credit: 1,857,738 RAC: 0 |
Very first V8 task to run on my laptop gave a -9 overflow. Should I be worried? Only if it turns invalid. |
Rasputin42 Send message Joined: 25 Jul 08 Posts: 412 Credit: 5,834,661 RAC: 0 |
Can someone enlighten me, why this new version is suddenly deployed, with no gpu apps and untested? I thought, seti beta is the testing platform, so, if there are no apps, how can it be tested? What is the rush? |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Actually, there has been public testing at the Beta site since Tuesday 1st December - as announced in SETI@home v8 beta to begin on Tuesday. The apps and splitters were tested and revised up to version 8.04 before passing all the checks and being transferred here. GPU apps rely on external volunteer developers, and will follow when ready - as Eric said in his front-page announcement. |
Rasputin42 Send message Joined: 25 Jul 08 Posts: 412 Credit: 5,834,661 RAC: 0 |
Thanks Richard, but why cutting off the gpu work, before there is an app? |
Cruncher-American Send message Joined: 25 Mar 02 Posts: 1513 Credit: 370,893,186 RAC: 340 |
Thanks Richard, Because he doesn't like you. I don't like you, either. Star Wars strikes again! |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34380 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
Actually, there has been public testing at the Beta site since Tuesday 1st December - as announced in SETI@home v8 beta to begin on Tuesday. The apps and splitters were tested and revised up to version 8.04 before passing all the checks and being transferred here. GPU apps rely on external volunteer developers, and will follow when ready - as Eric said in his front-page announcement. Not entirely correct. We are ready (ATI) and i made the first app available already posted in the new app thread early this morning 2:30 AM. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
As far as Eric and the rest of the project are concerned, there's no such beast as "GPU work". There's just work, and they couldn't care less what tool is used to crunch it - you can use an abacus if you like, provided it produces accurate results. The major purpose of the new v8 application was to gain the ability to process data recorded at the Green Bank Telescope, and other telescopes in general. There isn't much of that yet, so it makes sense to start slowly - testing that SETI's specialist recorder, data transfer, splitters, volunteer processing, validator, assimilator, and science database can all handle the new work. All those components have to be in place before the entire pathway can be tested under stress. And, I'm sorry to say, volunteers' GPUs seem to be the greatest source of random errors in the system. It makes sense to start with CPU applications only: their relative simplicity and generally low error rate will make any errors anywhere else in the chain stand out more clearly above the noise. |
petri33 Send message Joined: 6 Jun 02 Posts: 1668 Credit: 623,086,772 RAC: 156 |
As far as Eric and the rest of the project are concerned, there's no such beast as "GPU work". There's just work, and they couldn't care less what tool is used to crunch it - you can use an abacus if you like, provided it produces accurate results. Plus all the work a lot of people have done behind the scenes. Things do not just appear. The world does not have an intelligent design behind it. But Seti@home has. To overcome Heisenbergs: "You can't always get what you want / but if you try sometimes you just might find / you get what you need." -- Rolling Stones |
Rasputin42 Send message Joined: 25 Jul 08 Posts: 412 Credit: 5,834,661 RAC: 0 |
The reason, i was asking is that it seems to waste (not use)all the GPU computing power. I did not want to offend anyone. I just though, it would have been better, to wait for the GPU apps and test them on beta before doing the switch-over to v8 on seti itself. That is, what i thought, beta is there for. And, I'm sorry to say, volunteers' GPUs seem to be the greatest source of random errors in the system If the results from GPUs are not good enough, the should be banned completely. But, i guess, that is not an option, as users have specifically bought graphics cards for that purpose and would not be happy about that. |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
...as users have specifically bought graphics cards for that purpose and would not be happy about that. I bought mine first to be able to see something on my monitors, second to be able to run DirectX 11 games at high/very high/ultra settings. Isn't that what most people think about when they buy a graphics card? It's nice to be able to do calculations with them, but that was never my primary intent when I bought it. Own opinion. |
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