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Message 1746008 - Posted: 1 Dec 2015, 4:51:37 UTC - in response to Message 1746003.  

Not PC?


You reckon ?

I'd say greed or someone wishes there to be a reason to attack women's right to decide what happens to there bodies

example below

http://abortsa.com/what-happens-to-aborted-babies/

Read it carefully and look at the picture of aborted fetuses and then you may see how you can tell a truth but a lie and sterr up trouble .

You will find the backers of sites like this are American Christian organisations
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Message 1746032 - Posted: 1 Dec 2015, 6:41:54 UTC - in response to Message 1746008.  

Not PC?


You reckon ?

I'd say greed or someone wishes there to be a reason to attack women's right to decide what happens to there bodies

example below

http://abortsa.com/what-happens-to-aborted-babies/

Read it carefully and look at the picture of aborted fetuses and then you may see how you can tell a truth but a lie and sterr up trouble .

You will find the backers of sites like this are American Christian organisations

Since this is now turned into the abortion thread ...

You ask what should happen to the unwanted cells ...
Perhaps unlike some other places the lawyers, for the stick their nose in everything gang, have made it abundantly clear that must be spelled out in the consent form that is signed before anything happens. What should happen is exactly what that form says should happen. If that is cremation, burial, or research, that is up to the person signing the form. No one else has any say or should have any say.

I do know what happened to some. A horrific publicity stunt happened to these:

Each was ripped asunder by the knife of the coroner, then shamefully exploited for political purposes by utterly indecent scum, dragged all the way to SCOTUS who refused to allow the circus to be complete, even though POTUS got involved at the end.

Perhaps you detect that I don't think anyone should be telling the person who signs the consent form what they must do! Their body, their choice!
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Message 1746051 - Posted: 1 Dec 2015, 8:28:12 UTC - in response to Message 1746032.  

Perhaps you detect that I don't think anyone should be telling the person who signs the consent form what they must do! Their body, their choice!


For the women who have a abortion fear enough but the fetus once it's out of her body should be disposed off .

Other wise it open to abuse and then the Christian gang and right to lifers have plenty of B/S to cause trouble

A TRAP and a very sick one at that .
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Message 1746083 - Posted: 1 Dec 2015, 11:01:14 UTC
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We've just had this in the UK.
Northern Ireland in this subject is separate from the rest of the UK, because of its southern border with the Republic of Ireland also known as Éire. Which is strictly Roman Catholic and has draconian abortion laws which makes doctors and the courts refuse abortions even when it should be allowed. see Death of Savita Halappanavar

Northen Ireland abortion law 'breaches human rights'

Abortion legislation in Northern Ireland is in breach of human rights law, the Belfast High Court has ruled.

Currently, termination of pregnancy is only allowed if a woman's life is at risk or there is a permanent or serious risk to her mental or physical health.

The Northern Ireland Human Rights Commission (NIHRC) brought the case to extend abortion to cases of serious foetal malformation, rape or incest.

The 1967 Abortion Act does not apply to Northern Ireland.
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Message 1746368 - Posted: 2 Dec 2015, 20:36:10 UTC

Mass shooting reported in San Bernardino, California.

Something in the water?
Hey Trump, your theory that armed civilians will prohibit large shootings like this is debunked, man.
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Message 1746374 - Posted: 2 Dec 2015, 21:45:38 UTC

Oh man, not again...


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Message 1746379 - Posted: 2 Dec 2015, 21:55:56 UTC - in response to Message 1746368.  

Hey Trump, your theory that armed civilians will prohibit large shootings like this is debunked, man.
Government building. I didn't think they liked armed citizens at government facilities. California is also a no carry state.

I pray for the victims and their families.
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Message 1746380 - Posted: 2 Dec 2015, 22:47:08 UTC - in response to Message 1746379.  

Police: At least 14 killed, 14 injured in mass shooting at California facility

My thoughts and prayers are with victims and their families.


Gunmen on the loose.
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Message 1746384 - Posted: 2 Dec 2015, 23:07:01 UTC - in response to Message 1746379.  
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California is also a no carry state.

France is a no carry country. Most of Europe is a no carry continent. That didn't hold Trump back one bit though. Hopefully he's learned to hold his opinion to himself this time.

Live police radio available here.

Edit: police are following a car, dark SUV, shots fired out the back window.
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Message 1746413 - Posted: 3 Dec 2015, 2:23:30 UTC - in response to Message 1746384.  
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/02/as-many-as-20-shot-police-in-standoff-in-san-bernardino-calif/?intcmp=hpbt1

Email from Fox News.

Police in San Bernardino, Calif., confirm that two gunmen who shot and killed 14 people in a county office building are dead -- one is a woman -- a third possible suspect is in custody, and a house-to-house search continues for a possible fourth suspect. Police also say they are treating a package left in the office building as a possible explosive device. FBI spokesman would not rule out that the massacre was an act of terrorism.

Possible terrorism. :-(

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Deadliest Massacre Since Sandy Hook...
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Message 1746418 - Posted: 3 Dec 2015, 2:44:40 UTC

Another case of a "good guy with a gun" not doing anything. Is it possible that is possible that is a Wayne LaPierre myth designed to help sell firearms?
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Message 1746425 - Posted: 3 Dec 2015, 3:37:20 UTC - in response to Message 1746413.  
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/02/as-many-as-20-shot-police-in-standoff-in-san-bernardino-calif/?intcmp=hpbt1

Email from Fox News.

Police in San Bernardino, Calif., confirm that two gunmen who shot and killed 14 people in a county office building are dead -- one is a woman -- a third possible suspect is in custody, and a house-to-house search continues for a possible fourth suspect. Police also say they are treating a package left in the office building as a possible explosive device. FBI spokesman would not rule out that the massacre was an act of terrorism.

Possible terrorism. :-(

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Deadliest Massacre Since Sandy Hook...

CNN has not mentioned anything beyond 3 suspects and now there may not be a 3rd, just the 2, 1 male and 1 female, the home where the chase was started, is being disarmed, since a bomb was found there. Also the 2 had AR15 rifles(Civilian version of the M16 rifle, the AR15 lacks a mode selector switch for semi-automatic vs automatic fire), pistols and pipe bombs.

14 Dead
17 wounded
1 Police Officer wounded
2 Suspects Dead
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/02/us/san-bernardino-shooting/index.html
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Message 1746435 - Posted: 3 Dec 2015, 4:35:00 UTC

Birdies Tell Me it's 'Work'Place' 'Violence' by 'Mentally' 'Disturbed' 'Persons'.

Don't Want to Upset PeacePrizer'sHugTheVrold Narrative.

Whew. At Least No Angry Old White Men.

Still, Funny Non-Christian Names seem to be...

Yup

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Message 1746437 - Posted: 3 Dec 2015, 4:37:57 UTC - in response to Message 1746384.  

California is also a no carry state.

France is a no carry country. Most of Europe is a no carry continent. That didn't hold Trump back one bit though. Hopefully he's learned to hold his opinion to himself this time.
Trump says the most outrageous thing he can so that he gets the press to say his name. If he were posting here he would be a troll and the do not feed the trolls would apply.
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Message 1746444 - Posted: 3 Dec 2015, 5:30:16 UTC

Any talk about motive at this point is base speculation. Doesn't mean we won't talk though.

The name being bantered about may be a red herring
The reports that the person worked there may have nothing to do with motive

Going over possibles in the mind the difference between 2 or 3 shooters is important. If 2 a couple could act as a single person would for motive. It is very unlikely that 3 would act as a single if they are not family.

The issue is for most of the possible motives it would be very hard to convince others to join if it was retribution for some personal slight. The exception being a slight against a couple where both take offense. However in the case of 3 shooters it becomes untenable to think of a single person issue, absent a criminal gang activity.

Thinking about domestic violence, love triangle stuff, it does not add up to spray gunfire and use bombs. That would be kill the other person only.

Thinking about workplace violence, you would expect the supervisors to be the target not all coworkers. Doesn't seem to be the most likely.

Thinking about violence against a government for some slight, this could make sense. If they knew the specific person who made the adverse decision you would expect that person only to be targeted, but if they did not know they could target the entire office. However knowing they were having a party offsite?!

Thinking about workplace harassment, such as being harassed for religious beliefs, does fit with with spray the guns and use bombs.

Then there is terrorism. The reason for the act, religion or government hate (sovereign citizen), is not important, just the hate. If the person worked at the facility, that might only mean they had access, knew the layout and perhaps knew there would be a large gathering in a single room.

Then there is the interesting fact they were still together with arms hours later apparently still looking for targets. In most of the motives you would expect them to head to home/hideout and lay low if they did not suicide at the scene.
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Message 1746587 - Posted: 3 Dec 2015, 18:20:02 UTC - in response to Message 1746551.  

The Left, the Anti-Free Speech Movement infecting our Culture and Universities, and the Anti-White, Anti-Male, Anti-Christian Bigots.

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Message 1746593 - Posted: 3 Dec 2015, 18:56:45 UTC

Vote the Donald!
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Message 1746595 - Posted: 3 Dec 2015, 19:23:43 UTC

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2015/12/01/armed-citizens-deter-terrorist-attacks-in-detroit-police-chief-says/

DETROIT (CBS Detroit) More guns, fewer problems. That, at least, is Detroit Police Chief’s James Craig’s view of Detroit and fears about a possible terrorist attack.

While cities around the world are on heightened alert following a devastating ISIS attack in Paris, Detroit’s police chief says he believes the fear that armed citizens would return fire serves as a deterrent for a potential terrorist attack in the rust belt city.

Craig called more officers to duty and moved some to locations deemed higher priorities following the attacks in Paris.

But he also noted “a lot of Detroiters” have concealed pistol licenses and “the same rules apply to terrorists as they do to some gun-toting thug.”

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“If you’re a terrorist, or a carjacker, you want unarmed citizens,” Craig said.

More than 30,000 of Detroit’s 688,000 residents are legally armed, according to Michigan State Police. There were 6,974 concealed-pistol licenses issued to residents in 2013, more than double those in 2009, and 7,584 issued in 2012, the state police said, per a report in the Detroit News.





I agree with him 100%.
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Message 1746597 - Posted: 3 Dec 2015, 19:36:28 UTC

All Hail the Donald!




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You need an expert down there running things.

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Message 1746601 - Posted: 3 Dec 2015, 20:18:35 UTC - in response to Message 1746587.  

Gary you are quite correct in pointing out that collection of words is not a sentence and means nothing. Is it possible that The Clyde is in reality a computerized random word generator?
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