To be more precise: I'm asking about Creator update, not about to install Win10 or not. Netbook came already with it and I have no intention to replace whole OS.

Sorry. I was being more general in my feelings about switching to 10.

---

"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

I have no problems with Creators Update both in SETI CPU and SETI GPU. But I have problems in Einstein@home GPUs, even if I have installed the 385.41 nVidia driver, and also in LHC@home save SixTrack, which does not use VirtualBox.
Tullio

---

I've had no issues with the Creators Update other than it clobbering my video driver- it remained un-changed, but I had to re-install it to get OpenCL to work again.

Grant - Do you have your system set up so that it does not update hardware device drivers? I have mine set to "NO" I've never had a problem with my NVidia drivers with that turned off. BTW, it will be here on the 17th with more bloatware then before. I wish M$S would allow desktop users who have Win 10 Pro installed to deselect 90% of the crap we don't use.

---

I don't buy computers, I build them!!

I wish M$S would allow desktop users who have Win 10 Pro installed to deselect 90% of the crap we don't use.

It takes a little time and manual work, but you can get rid of a lot of crapware by referring to Black Viper's windows fix-it site.

---

"Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once."

I've had no issues with the Creators Update other than it clobbering my video driver- it remained un-changed, but I had to re-install it to get OpenCL to work again.

Grant - Do you have your system set up so that it does not update hardware device drivers? I have mine set to "NO" I've never had a problem with my NVidia drivers with that turned off. BTW, it will be here on the 17th with more bloatware then before. I wish M$S would allow desktop users who have Win 10 Pro installed to deselect 90% of the crap we don't use.

Creators Update FALL edition is scheduled to release October 10. Creators Update is current.
Creators Update is working just fine for me.

---

SETI@home classic workunits 4,019
SETI@home classic CPU time 34,348 hours

To be more precise: I'm asking about Creator update, not about to install Win10 or not. Netbook came already with it and I have no intention to replace whole OS.

I went with the automatic update once I came up in the queue. No real problems at all. Like the new extended hours of system availability - 18 hours - that you keep the update process' hands of my cotton picken' machine. I have no use for the "creators" functionality. It is just a cruncher. I would say it is safe to let it update.

---

Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours

A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association)

Creators Update FALL edition is scheduled to release October 10.

Correction: Windows 10 Fall Creators Update coming Oct. 17
The next update of Windows 10, the Fall Creators Update, will be available worldwide October 17.

---

And again, nothing of substance in the release notes unless you want to play around with cheap VR headsets.

---

Seti@Home classic workunits:20,676 CPU time:74,226 hours

A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association)

Grant - Do you have your system set up so that it does not update hardware device drivers? I have mine set to "NO" I've never had a problem with my NVidia drivers with that turned off.

I had video driver updates disabled with the policy editor.
The driver version remained un-changed, but OpenCL just wouldn't work, so I had to re-enable video driver updates (the setting also blocked manual updates), re-installed the existing driver, and re-blocked video driver updates.
I might give the "Block all hardware driver updates" a go, as it's easier to set (don't have to copy all the device id numbers to block the particular hardware).

EDIT- looks like I've already done that.

I wish M$S would allow desktop users who have Win 10 Pro installed to deselect 90% of the crap we don't use.

Yeah, after each of the major updates I spend quite a bit of time removing where possible, or otherwise just disabling, a lot of the new features that get installed.

---

Grant
Darwin NT

I had video driver updates disabled with the policy editor. The driver version remained un-changed, but OpenCL just wouldn't work, so I had to re-enable video driver updates (the setting also blocked manual updates), re-installed the existing driver, and re-blocked video driver updates.
I might give the "Block all hardware driver updates" a go, as it's easier to set (don't have to copy all the device id numbers to block the particular hardware)

I believe that's your problem with having to reinstall the driver. The driver update provided by M$S doesn't include OpenCL. You should always install the drivers from the NVidia web site to ensure that you get everything. Instead of editing the policy, I disabled Hardware updates via the control panel. All hardware updates are blocked with one click although it takes several to get there. (Control Panel -> system -> Advanced System Settings -> Hardware -> Device Installation Settings -- set to "NO" then "OK", then exit out and you don't have to worry abut device ids. I'm sure there's a quicker way but I don't know all of the short cut key words and if you ask Cortana, it will send you to the web.

---

I don't buy computers, I build them!!

Creators Update FALL edition is scheduled to release October 10.

Correction: Windows 10 Fall Creators Update coming Oct. 17
The next update of Windows 10, the Fall Creators Update, will be available worldwide October 17.

Boy I wish I did not have double vision in each eye....makes for a lot of read errors.

---

SETI@home classic workunits 4,019
SETI@home classic CPU time 34,348 hours

I believe that's your problem with having to reinstall the driver. The driver update provided by M$S doesn't include OpenCL.

And I didn't get it, although for some reason it did stop my current driver from working.
I'm guessing it tried to install, and couldn't- but that attempt was enough to clobber OpenCL.

All hardware updates are blocked with one click although it takes several to get there. (Control Panel -> system -> Advanced System Settings -> Hardware -> Device Installation Settings -- set to "NO" then "OK", then exit out and you don't have to worry abut device ids.

Prior to the Creators Update, blocking the device IDs was the only thing that worked for me. Using the Policy Editor I checked my settings, and that's where they're showing as blocking Device Driver updates through Windows Update. We'll see how that goes when the next update eventually rolls out- even then I've set the system to defer Updates, and only use the Business branch. Hopefully that gives them enough time to sort out any issues before I finally get any updates.

I'm sure there's a quicker way but I don't know all of the short cut key words and if you ask Cortana, it will send you to the web.

One of the first things I did when I got Win10 was disable Cortana. My search function only searches my PC. Luckily the Creators Update didn't undo that work.
Why people use things like SIri & Cortana I have no idea- I prefer not to give out all that sort of information to the likes of Apple or MS.

---

Grant
Darwin NT

All hardware updates are blocked with one click although it takes several to get there. (Control Panel -> system -> Advanced System Settings -> Hardware -> Device Installation Settings -- set to "NO" then "OK", then exit out and you don't have to worry abut device ids.

Prior to the Creators Update, blocking the device IDs was the only thing that worked for me. Using the Policy Editor I checked my settings, and that's where they're showing as blocking Device Driver updates through Windows Update. We'll see how that goes when the next update eventually rolls out- even then I've set the system to defer Updates, and only use the Business branch. Hopefully that gives them enough time to sort out any issues before I finally get any updates.

Interesting as that is the way I've always blocked Windows from updating device drivers since I first installed Win 7 and it screwed up OpenCL.

---

I don't buy computers, I build them!!

One of the first things I did when I got Win10 was disable Cortana. My search function only searches my PC. Luckily the Creators Update didn't undo that work.
Why people use things like SIri & Cortana I have no idea- I prefer not to give out all that sort of information to the likes of Apple or MS.

. . I'm wid you on that! Who wants BB's nose in your stuff ...?

Stephen

!!

Control Panel -> system -> Advanced System Settings -> Hardware -> Device Installation Settings -- set to "NO"
Interesting as that is the way I've always blocked Windows from updating device drivers since I first installed Win 7 and it screwed up OpenCL.

I've always left that option enabled as disabling it stops new devices connected from the system from getting device drivers if they aren't already available on the system.

---

Grant
Darwin NT

Windows 10 Bug Causes Data Loss on Android When Copying Files with File Explorer
Bug confirmed when copying files within Android storage

A bug in Windows 10 causes files copied from one location to another on a PC-connected Android device to vanish completely if the built-in file manager File Explorer is used for the operation.

---

Control Panel -> system -> Advanced System Settings -> Hardware -> Device Installation Settings -- set to "NO"
Interesting as that is the way I've always blocked Windows from updating device drivers since I first installed Win 7 and it screwed up OpenCL.

I've always left that option enabled as disabling it stops new devices connected from the system from getting device drivers if they aren't already available on the system.

If I install new devices to my system, I've always loaded the drivers/software that came with the device, then went to its web site to pull down the latest software/drivers and installed it/them if necessary. I recently installed a new printer and instead of letting the OS install the basic drivers for it, I installed the software & drivers with the CD that came with the device. After I recycled the machine I went to the web site to see if there was any updates that were required to be done.

The only exception to that is when I've upgraded my GPUs, since I only install NVidia supported GPUs and I go to web site and pull down the latest driver for the upgraded GPU(s) and do an advanced/clean install after I insert them if the version I'm currently using is too low for the new GPU and recycle the machine. All of my drivers are at a greater version then what M$S calls for anyway. It's a few extra steps, but I think it's worth it and if something goes wrong I can't immediately lay the blame on M$S.

---

I don't buy computers, I build them!!

If I install new devices to my system, I've always loaded the drivers/software that came with the device, then went to its web site to pull down the latest software/drivers and installed it/them if necessary.

A lot of devices, mostly USB/eSATA3 related, don't come with drivers anymore or have no drivers downloadable from their master's website. These are built in into the Windows drivers pool. Then you have to think about things like monitors, external hard drives, thumb drives, keyboards, mice, external CD/DVD/Blu-Ray drive, external sound cards, headphones/microphones, game controllers, speakers, docking-/backup stations, even when you plug your smart phone into a USB port, it will be found.

---

In short. Windows 10 Creator update - install or refuse by all means possible?

Overall, I've grown to like Win 10 over Win 7 in general, while hating the Borg-like approach MS has taken to its roll-out.
No opinion on Creators, as I (don't think) I've had that stuffed down my throat as yet. (Running 15063 build).
The whole driver update thing irritates the eff out of me, specifically NVidia drivers being distributed without OpenCL support crashing my crunchers. But general Win10, yes, though the forced update bit leaves me without valid licenses after drive crashes, also an irritant.

---

No opinion on Creators, as I (don't think) I've had that stuffed down my throat as yet. (Running 15063 build).

v1703 build 15063.xxx is the Creators Update.
v1709 (Fall Creators Update) is due for release Oct 17.

---

Grant
Darwin NT