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David S ![]() Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 ![]() ![]() |
Let me ask something: Even if I never install 10 on any of my existing computers, could MS still get into them if I bought a new one with 10 on it and connected it to my home network, or to an existing one via Teamviewer? What about if I connect to a friend's network with 10 boxes on it? David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
![]() Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21572 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 ![]() ![]() |
If you run any version of Windows, you are completely vulnerable to whatever Microsoft and their "trusted 3rd parties" have programed 'your' computer to do. Happy computing, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13886 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 ![]() ![]() |
Let me ask something: Your existing computers will be as secure (or unsecure) as they are now. Grant Darwin NT |
kittyman ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51510 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 ![]() ![]() |
Let me ask something: And the problem is this is making many users INSECURE. Meowsigh. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31126 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 ![]() ![]() |
If you run any version of Windows, you are completely vulnerable to whatever Microsoft and their "trusted 3rd parties" have programed 'your' computer to do. Sounds exactly like any other O/S. ![]() |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 ![]() ![]() |
If you run any version of Windows, you are completely vulnerable to whatever Microsoft and their "trusted 3rd parties" have programed 'your' computer to do. Greetings Gary, That may be so. But, is there data mining and theft of it and passwords and tracking in Linux or any other non-Window$ 10 OS? ;) Keep on BOINCing...! :) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Cosmic_Ocean ![]() Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13 ![]() ![]() |
I'm still waiting to see the new Update Client for April appear. Every month since July or August has had one. It will likely be in this upcoming Tuesday's pile of updates, but the past few months.. between the 1st and 3rd is when those months have had their new update clients released, so why not this month as well? Oh, right.. because I bet there's so much new crap being added in these iterations that it falls into the category of being released on Patch Tuesday. Just my hunch. Guess we'll see how that pans out. Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 ![]() |
That may be so. But, is there data mining and theft of it and passwords and tracking in Linux or any other non-Window$ 10 OS? ;)If you access your Google account, using a Windows Phone, over a cellular connection, there are 3 entities 'preserving' your data and preferences.........just say'in.....":D> ![]() "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 ![]() ![]() |
That may be so. But, is there data mining and theft of it and passwords and tracking in Linux or any other non-Window$ 10 OS? ;)If you access your Google account, using a Windows Phone, over a cellular connection, there are 3 entities 'preserving' your data and preferences.........just say'in.....":D> Greetings JE, I don't have a Window$ phone. I use my smart phone for 2 things: generating a security code needed for logging into World of Warcraft and... (drum roll please...) a phone. I don't check my email or 'surf' the Internet with my phone. If I didn't need the security authorization app for WoW, I'd go back to a real cell phone. I suppose I could get the app for my tablet, but that would be a pain since I keep it plugged in for doing SETI Beta and the cable is too short to bring it to my desk. Keep on BOINCing...! :) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 14 May 99 Posts: 4438 Credit: 55,006,323 RAC: 0 ![]() |
I'm still waiting to see the new Update Client for April appear. Every month since July or August has had one. It will likely be in this upcoming Tuesday's pile of updates, but the past few months.. between the 1st and 3rd is when those months have had their new update clients released, so why not this month as well? Oh, right.. because I bet there's so much new crap being added in these iterations that it falls into the category of being released on Patch Tuesday. Just my hunch. Guess we'll see how that pans out. Guess what showed up once again, our "favorite" compatibility patches un-hidden by them once again. http://www.follownews.com/windows-781-patches-kb-2952664-2976978-and-2977759-keep-turning-up-like-bad-pennies-12q0g ![]() |
Sirius B ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24922 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 ![]() |
Hmmm. GWX CP must be doing its it job as I've only received 4 updates this week, 3 for MS Office & 1 for MSE :-) |
![]() Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 21572 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 ![]() ![]() |
Pray tell... What new foolishness is this? A new pan-dimensional Redmond Blue-Screen-of-Death and Malware?... Windows 10 debuts Blue QR Code of Death – and why malware will love it Interesting idea but we can imagine the downside... ... We'll wait to see where Redmond's engineers take this. ® The "QR" code is an interesting idea. The completely unguarded possibilities are bound to be exploited by others other than just Redmond... In my meager humble opinion: Obvious BONKERS! IT is what we allow it to be...? Martin (So as not to bomb this thread, please direct any extravagant comments to the parallel thread on Politics...!) See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 31126 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 ![]() ![]() |
Oh, Martin. Scan the QR code, infect your android phone. ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3828 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 ![]() ![]() |
Oh, Martin. Scan the QR code, infect your android phone. Anyone using this exploit would ensure that their payload would affect as many platforms as possible. ![]() |
Ulrich Metzner ![]() Send message Joined: 3 Jul 02 Posts: 1256 Credit: 13,565,513 RAC: 13 ![]() ![]() |
A big bunch of updates today, are they all inoffensive? :? ![]() And this optional update is very suspicious: ![]() Just checkout it's corresponding site: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3147071 Aloha, Uli |
Cosmic_Ocean ![]() Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13 ![]() ![]() |
You're right.. that one IS suspicious. So much so that it doesn't seem to exist, yet you have it in your list. The other plain "update for windows 7" (3148851) is just new time zone rules for Russia. Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
Ulrich Metzner ![]() Send message Joined: 3 Jul 02 Posts: 1256 Credit: 13,565,513 RAC: 13 ![]() ![]() |
The security update for IE11 seems to be real this time, without Win 10 advertisement - i'm not sure? :? https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3148198 Aloha, Uli |
Cosmic_Ocean ![]() Send message Joined: 23 Dec 00 Posts: 3027 Credit: 13,516,867 RAC: 13 ![]() ![]() |
Yes, that looks safe this time around. I just refreshed WSUS and 3147071 shows up there, as well. I clicked the "more information" URL for it and was brought to the same page that gives the frown face. So that one has been denied for the time being. One thing I'm a bit surprised about is that there is not an Update Client for April 2016 yet. Maybe that is what 3147071 is supposed to be? It is ~20mb, so whatever that update is.. it does a lot of stuff. Linux laptop: record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up) |
![]() Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 ![]() |
Just checkout its corresponding site: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3147071 When the updates are just released, their description isn't always already available on the Microsoft pages. So then you get the 'page cannot be found' message. When you look now at your link, you'll see it's an update for: Connection to Oracle database fails when you use Microsoft ODBC or OLE DB Driver for Oracle or Microsoft DTC in Windows |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 ![]() |
I just ran an old favorite system listing program Belarc Advisor and under missing systems updates appears good old KB3139929 listed as critical....it's gonna stay missing..":D> ![]() "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
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