THAT would depend on questions asked of some and their answers.

Someone compared Faith with political beliefs. That didnt upset me as much as he might have thought. Ever read Mein Kampf? I have. Found it disgusting.

I however don't believe all followed him willingly, and many unknowingly. If the otherside had a say, who knows what might have happened?

Now, I have told you, many have written books saying all of this is just a chance happening. I believe they are wrong and I have science that backs my beliefs up. I don't believe that chance is the reason. I see design, just like my ten fingers. ;-)

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We have ten fingers, I assure you base ten is designed--by humans. :-)

You are correct, there is nothing inherently special about base 10. We simply use it because we have 10 fingers. I am not sure what point you are trying to make.

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We have ten fingers, I assure you base ten is designed--by humans. :-

As is base two!

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We have ten fingers, I assure you base ten is designed--by humans. :-)

You are correct, there is nothing inherently special about base 10. We simply use it because we have 10 fingers. I am not sure what point you are trying to make.

I thought we had EIGHT fingers...

Which is also a nice power of 2.

Shame the two thumbs got in the way. We could have gone digital eons ago! :-P


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Keep searchin',
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We have ten fingers, I assure you base ten is designed--by humans. :-)

You are correct, there is nothing inherently special about base 10. We simply use it because we have 10 fingers. I am not sure what point you are trying to make.

I thought we had EIGHT fingers...

Which is also a nice power of 2.

Shame the two thumbs got in the way. We could have gone digital eons ago! :-P


;-)

Keep searchin',
Martin

Ha! Good point!

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BTW, hexadecimal, base 16, is also a human construct. Which proves.....

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BTW, hexadecimal, base 16, is also a human construct. Which proves.....

Letters can be numbers two.

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I like ALL numbers... but especially the number 9 :)

from such entropy

Hardly it was the big bang, do you think the big bang happened?

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LOL, base ten is a human construct, designed. LMAO! How can one not see that design, then look at DNA and not see a design. I believe you missed my well placed point.

Do NOT remove my post! I have the right to know if he missed the point. I have the right to know if he is ignoring my point. I have the right to know. Do not red x and do not remove this post. I have the right to debate, and this is also a right.

We have ten fingers, I assure you base ten is designed--by humans. :-)

I think your post goes to the root of the issue here. You look at DNA or base 10 and infer that because it is complex or has a pattern, it must have been designed. As a scientist, I ask you, what evidence do you have that life is designed? To convince scientists, that is the question that must be addressed. The best proof would be to provide evidence of the presence of the designer at some point in recent history, perhaps around the time of modern humans first appearance. Until then, i think you will find that science will continue to ignore ID as a hypothesis to explain the diversity of life on earth.

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So for me, evolutionary theory provides a predictive framework for understanding cancer evolution. ID does not.
PS. What are your qualifications?

As a believer in Evolution, but really a skeptic about everything. May I throw a 'monkey wrench' at the first argument.

Evolutionary theory may predict many results. But that truly does not mean it's correct. I am thinking about Newton vs. Einstein regarding the true nature of gravity. Although Newton was incorrect, his mathematics are still used today because they work.

Regarding the 'qualification', IE: I am an 'Authority'. That does reduce the accuser's stature.

Note: I guess I am an Authority, and deemed by Judges, to be an 'Expert' in certain matters where other's are not. So? For me to dismiss other's arguments, in these matters, lessen me.

Just my opinion.

Scientific theories continuously change as new evidence is found. Thats how we progress in science. No one claims that the current version is the end. But, to be useful, a theory must have predictive value which can be used. So, aerodynamic theory allows us to predict how to build planes which fly. Evolutionary theory allows us to predict how cancer cells can mutate and become resistant to therapies. ID theory does not make any useful predictions I can use in my work. e.g. is cancer created by a malign designer?

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is cancer created by a malign designer?

More than One Doctor's patient is dying from cancer one visit, and the next The Cancer is Completely Gone. Or some other Hideous Ailment is Poof, GoneBa.

SuperNatural fO shO. fO evA and evA.

Praise Be.

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Well how would the ID crowd feel and what would they say if it was discoverd that way back when Earth was still sterile but was just right at the time for life to take off. That an alein ship landed found no life at all and flushed there holding tanks. Would that be considerd a designger?

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Reading this thread, it looks like we all have to explain ourselves to ID. When people answer your questions, ID, I think they expect you to answer their questions as well...

Why the need to reply to ID's Religious Theology?

It's akin to responding to someone's Secular Theology, IE: Marxism, Nazism, etc.. It's a waste of time.

When he wants an answer to his questions, he should answer our questions as well but he avoids them. Just something I've noticed:)

Agree with the analysis of ID. Just typical.

? I'm not following... (the typical part that is...do you know me by any chance?) Sorry, off topic, carry on.

Hi Julie...

Sorry for the delay. I'm a busy person these days. GRANDCHILDREN!

'Just Typical' was referring to ID, referring to your paragraph "When he wants an answer..."

Sorry for any misunderstanding.

No problem Clyde:)

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Well how would the ID crowd feel and what would they say if it was discoverd that way back when Earth was still sterile but was just right at the time for life to take off. That an alein ship landed found no life at all and flushed there holding tanks. Would that be considerd a designger?

Now wouldn't that be something to behold? ROFLMAO

Cheers.

I saw this from Viz and it made me think of our friend I.D.

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I would ask them, who made you? I would feel nothing one way or the other.

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preponderance of the evidence

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I posted that on fb Es:) Here's an intersting link ID:)

http://io9.com/10-scientific-ideas-that-scientists-wish-you-would-stop-1591309822?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

t simply means an organism that fits best into its environment, which could mean anything from "smallest" or "squishiest" to "most poisonous" or "best able to live without water for weeks at a time." Plus, creatures don't always evolve in a way that we can explain as adaptations. Their evolutionary path may have more to do with random mutations, or traits that other members of their species find attractive.

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