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Lionel Send message Joined: 25 Mar 00 Posts: 680 Credit: 563,640,304 RAC: 597 |
Observations after affecting process described in cdemers post. Download speeds appear to be similar to the proxy that I was generally using, around 5-10kB/s, so no apparent significant improvement there. What I have noticed is that the downloads start quicker, they sometimes have a tendency to burst in the first 5-15% of the download with speeds in the range 15-20kB/s, they don't seem to stall as often (in fact, hardly ever), and if downloads do hesitate, the hesitation is not for long. Overall, I think the outcome is positive and have modified all my machines accordingly. BTW, in comparison to not using a proxy, hugely beneficial and well worth doing. cdemers, in line with T.A., +1 Lionel |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9958 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
This is the first morning in a long while when checking Boinc Tasks there are no stalled DL's across 6 machines!! I will be interested to see what happens after the weekly outage! |
Raubhautz* Send message Joined: 30 Aug 12 Posts: 3 Credit: 125,127 RAC: 0 |
[...] The crucial change is to enable TCP timestamps and window scaling, as provided for in RFC 1323. Mac/Linux machines have these enabled by default, and I suspect most public proxies are Linux-based. Interesting find. Upon investigating my machines, I found that my Win7-Ultimate already had the setting in place; and it had not had any d/l issues. My Win8-Pro machine was missing the setting, though it had not seen any SETI work yet... I did not have an issue with my WiFi being used to d/l either. See ya all at the challenge. |
cdemers Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 30 Credit: 17,235,002 RAC: 0 |
Just a followup note, if anyone is seeing any slowdown of their network, check the ECN setting in TCPOptimizer. Seems that the default of some network cards is to enable this feature, which will have the effect of slowing down your communications. Just make sure ECN is set to DISABLED if you have this issue. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explicit_Congestion_Notification |
Bruce Send message Joined: 15 Mar 02 Posts: 123 Credit: 124,955,234 RAC: 11 |
I like this setting! I reran TCP-Optimizer and found that the optimal settings only had Window Scaling selected, so I enabled Timestamps, saved and rebooted. I was amazed at what a difference it made. I have been running this new setting for over 30 hours now, and have only had 2 downloads stall, and they finished on the first retry. This is great! The Timestamps must be the secret bit that makes proxy servers work for people. Thank you for this excellent tip. Bruce |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Just a followup note, if anyone is seeing any slowdown of their network, check the ECN setting in TCPOptimizer. Seems that the default of some network cards is to enable this feature, which will have the effect of slowing down your communications. Just make sure ECN is set to DISABLED if you have this issue. It probably depends on the version of TCP Optimizer you have to hand. It's unfortunate that the guidance notes on http://www.speedguide.net/tcpoptimizer.php haven't been updated since version 2 and Windows XP - ECN isn't even visible on the explanatory screenshots. But there is a small note at the very bottom: TCP Optimizer v. 3.0.7 (03.22.2011): Sounds like you shouldn't use v3.0.6 or before. |
Mark Wyzenbeek Send message Joined: 28 Jun 99 Posts: 134 Credit: 6,203,079 RAC: 0 |
Not a single download error since using TCP Optimzer and checking the Timestamps box. Thanks for the info! The Universe is not only stranger than you imagine, it's stranger than you can imagine. SETI@home classic workunits 1,405 CPU time 57,318 hours |
bill Send message Joined: 16 Jun 99 Posts: 861 Credit: 29,352,955 RAC: 0 |
Excellent work cdemers. I owe you a beer. I'm sure the rest of the community could stand you a few rounds also. |
Fred E. Send message Joined: 22 Jul 99 Posts: 768 Credit: 24,140,697 RAC: 0 |
Excellent work cdemers. I owe you a beer.+1 I'll buy into that. Working great for 24+ hours. Just 2 questions: 1) Has anyone seen problems with other network activity? 2) What's a keyboard attendant supposed to do now since I don't have to man the retry button? Another Fred Support SETI@home when you search the Web with GoodSearch or shop online with GoodShop. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14679 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Excellent work cdemers. I owe you a beer.+1 1) None here, though I'm watching. I did a very heavy Einstein download (well over 100 data files) while SETI was downloading too. Both worked fine together. 2) Drink beer. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24909 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Another +1. Never seen dl's come through that fast before. |
juan BFP Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799 |
2) Drink beer. I´m drinking to celebrate too, finaly someone find the light at the end of the tunnel! All DL working fine, not even need the retry cmd. |
Shane Meyer Send message Joined: 22 Jan 00 Posts: 126 Credit: 31,280,265 RAC: 42 |
Works a treat |
Oddbjornik Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 220 Credit: 349,610,548 RAC: 1,728 |
All I did was add that single value to the windows registry, and all of a sudden all my downloads complete without errors, and at about 6 KBps. Incredible!! |
bill Send message Joined: 16 Jun 99 Posts: 861 Credit: 29,352,955 RAC: 0 |
I just wonder how big an impact this might make on freeing up bandwidth? |
Mark Wyzenbeek Send message Joined: 28 Jun 99 Posts: 134 Credit: 6,203,079 RAC: 0 |
I notice that the Panic thread hasn't been posted to in a day. Maybe because everyone (who posts) has tried this. The Universe is not only stranger than you imagine, it's stranger than you can imagine. SETI@home classic workunits 1,405 CPU time 57,318 hours |
cov_route Send message Joined: 13 Sep 12 Posts: 342 Credit: 10,270,618 RAC: 0 |
I don't know if anybody else is seeing this but since the fix came out my backlog of pendings has been climbing. And my RAC has deteriorated a little when it should be climbing. I would have thought the opposite but perhaps what I'm seeing is a new population of turnaround times being superimposed on the old one. I'd guess a lot of the faster nodes have applied the fix and there is a new faster-turnaround bump building up in the distribution of result run times and that bump is still forming. In other words the fast machines are right now busy processing more work and haven't yet stabilized the rate at which they report back. Or...could just be a random thing. RAC always takes a little upfront hit when long-run jobs come out and I have more than the normal amount of AP. Or...could just be thinking too much cuz there's nothing else to do. |
Rick A. Sponholz Send message Joined: 13 Jun 99 Posts: 43 Credit: 23,179,807 RAC: 0 |
Oh My God! Running TCP Optimizer, clicking on Custom, then clicking Window Scaling AND Timestamps, made my SETI downloads fly! After weeks of clicking and reclicking the "retry Now" button on BOINC, to try and get some SETI work for my hungry machines, this worked wonders for me. Don't know how to pass this on, but if someone knows how, please let the SETI world know. Thanks to everyone who figured this out. Regards, Rick |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9958 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
I don't know if anybody else is seeing this but since the fix came out my backlog of pendings has been climbing. And my RAC has deteriorated a little when it should be climbing. I would have thought the opposite but perhaps what I'm seeing is a new population of turnaround times being superimposed on the old one. I'd guess a lot of the faster nodes have applied the fix and there is a new faster-turnaround bump building up in the distribution of result run times and that bump is still forming. I would say you would need to wait a week or so before attributing ANY fluctuation in RAC to this. RAC is not an instant yardstick and of course there is no way of knowing the total number of machines that have had this setting applied. |
Mark Wyzenbeek Send message Joined: 28 Jun 99 Posts: 134 Credit: 6,203,079 RAC: 0 |
This thread has been read 1200+ times. That's an incredibly small number of machines for this project. The Universe is not only stranger than you imagine, it's stranger than you can imagine. SETI@home classic workunits 1,405 CPU time 57,318 hours |
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