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Message 996866 - Posted: 18 May 2010, 3:44:35 UTC - in response to Message 996853.  

I click on the link. I get the following:

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Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.


Works for me. Maybe they've added Canada to the list of terrorist nations. About time, say I :D ;-)
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Message 996900 - Posted: 18 May 2010, 6:14:56 UTC

. . . Esme' - cheCk this out - i use Paragon software: PARAGON - Backup & Recovery 10 Suite Data Sheet

read carefully my friend - though it is quite easy to use

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Message 996902 - Posted: 18 May 2010, 6:54:41 UTC

Don't know maybe someone already mentioned it in this thread, but R-Studio is the tool that saved my HDD after great drive failure. It did the same few time already, very useful tool.
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Message 996907 - Posted: 18 May 2010, 7:54:43 UTC - in response to Message 996866.  

I click on the link. I get the following:

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You don't have permission to access /Sumvision-TB32-Dual-Bay-3.5-2xSATA-HDD-Raid-Enclosure-USB2.0-SATA-E-SATA-JBOD-Cooling-Fan-Retail.html on this server.

Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.


Works for me. Maybe they've added Canada to the list of terrorist nations. About time, say I :D ;-)


Keep a special eye out for our terroristic moose. They can take out a whole neighbourhood on garbage day.

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Message 996911 - Posted: 18 May 2010, 8:29:30 UTC

I don't think it's been mentioned yet in the thread, and not sure if it's applicable to external hd's...

But, atleast with "normal" hd's, it's often possible to set a jumper making the hd read-only. As read-only, any recovery-software should atleast not make things even worse than they currently are...


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Message 996939 - Posted: 18 May 2010, 13:08:06 UTC - in response to Message 996911.  

I don't think it's been mentioned yet in the thread, and not sure if it's applicable to external hd's...

But, atleast with "normal" hd's, it's often possible to set a jumper making the hd read-only. As read-only, any recovery-software should atleast not make things even worse than they currently are...


That would depend on whether the HD is IDE (PATA) or SATA. Most newer SATA HDs do not come with jumpers because they auto-negotiate.
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Message 996941 - Posted: 18 May 2010, 13:09:29 UTC - in response to Message 996900.  

. . . Esme' - cheCk this out - i use Paragon software: PARAGON - Backup & Recovery 10 Suite Data Sheet

read carefully my friend - though it is quite easy to use

< the best to you & try not to hurt the little guy - though 'do' teaCh him a lesson ;))




+1 for this software. About as good as it gets.
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Message 996964 - Posted: 18 May 2010, 14:53:30 UTC - in response to Message 996501.  

Recuva works quite well, and it's free. You'll need another hard drive that is large enough to store all the recovered data.

http://www.piriform.com/recuva

We tried a scan with this, but it only picked up the XBox files that my son had copied onto the drive. It said all the other stuff was unrecoverable. :(

Are any of the programs suggested capable of specifically recovering files from NTFS after the drive has been formatted FAT32?

I've taken the boyfriend off the case until I am satisfied that he knows what he is doing! (I think I hurt his feeling a little though).
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Message 996967 - Posted: 18 May 2010, 15:12:09 UTC

ProSoft allows you to use their program to examine your disk without purchase. To recover the files you will need to pay for the key to activate the program. On the other hand, they welcome phone calls so you can ask them directly if their program would work. I have never had to recover that type of disk so I am unable to say from my own experience. I think at one point in time they did data recovery but now sell the packages to do it. If noting else, you will only be out the cost of a phone call.
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Message 996985 - Posted: 18 May 2010, 22:29:54 UTC

This was posted on Pro Soft's web site. Make your own decision.

Data Rescue 3 is the best digital data recovery software on the market for recovering files from a problem hard drive or that have been previously deleted. Data Rescue 3 is for computer data recovery and works when other tools fail. Data Rescue 3 is also completely safe to use since it does not attempt any risky repairs to the drive it's scanning. Data Rescue 3 is the safest, most powerful software for data recovery. Data Rescue 3 is the same software used by many data recovery services, law enforcement, all major branches of the U.S. Military and major intelligence agencies. Data Rescue 3 has saved our customers from having to use a data recovery service, which can cost thousands.

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Message 996987 - Posted: 18 May 2010, 22:46:24 UTC

I had a Hard drive problem several months ago. I tried several of the programs that had free trial versions available. the only one that actually recovered 100% of all the data was power data recovery. I bought it because the trial version actually showed all of the data and partions that were originally on the drive. It also showed files that I had deleted months before.
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Message 996998 - Posted: 18 May 2010, 23:25:28 UTC - in response to Message 996964.  

Recuva works quite well, and it's free. You'll need another hard drive that is large enough to store all the recovered data.

http://www.piriform.com/recuva

We tried a scan with this, but it only picked up the XBox files that my son had copied onto the drive. It said all the other stuff was unrecoverable. :(

I think at this point you may need to call in the professionals, I'd suggest calling Ontrack and explaining the situation to them, to see if they believe that it is salvagable. The only cost is the time and the call. Just my .02

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Message 997000 - Posted: 18 May 2010, 23:32:36 UTC - in response to Message 996964.  
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Are any of the programs suggested capable of specifically recovering files from NTFS after the drive has been formatted FAT32?

You're on a very long shot with that...

If you are very lucky, you might only have the beginning of the HDD overwritten with the FAT32 tables and files. That will have trashed a lot of stuff that is important for NTFS... However, at least some of your files might still be intact. The problem is recovering the NTFS structures...

First question is if anyone knows how the XBox does its format...

Second is whether you can find any NTFS on the HDD.


How important are the lost files? Worth time/money chasing up?

Before trying ANY recovery, I would take a full disk image so that you have a backup safely saved in case anything more goes horribly wrong.


Hope that gives a little help.

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Message 997022 - Posted: 19 May 2010, 3:07:45 UTC - in response to Message 996964.  
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Recuva works quite well, and it's free. You'll need another hard drive that is large enough to store all the recovered data.

http://www.piriform.com/recuva

We tried a scan with this, but it only picked up the XBox files that my son had copied onto the drive. It said all the other stuff was unrecoverable. :(

Are any of the programs suggested capable of specifically recovering files from NTFS after the drive has been formatted FAT32?

I've taken the boyfriend off the case until I am satisfied that he knows what he is doing! (I think I hurt his feeling a little though).


You don't give us enough information to think about

1) Did you used "Deep scan"?
(Very important, because the file system and cluster size changed and the program do not know about this -
it "thinks" you are trying to recover the Xbox files you deleted from FAT32 file system)

You can try any other of the suggested programs in scan (read) mode but be sure to select the option to scan every sector of the disk.
It will be best if software allows to manually select the (corrupted) file system (you want NTFS) so the program will know what to search.


2) You had about 100 GB of files on the disk (am I guessing right?) -
They are:
- a few (20-30) BIG (4 GB each) files (DVD images)
or
- many 1000s of small files?


3) How many GB of data your son copied to the disk?


4) "... all the other stuff was unrecoverable": how many files and how many GB of "other unrecoverable stuff" was found?


P.S.
Raistmer pointed out this software:
http://www.r-studio.com/

It looks quite professional:
http://www.r-tt.com/Articles/Why_RStudio/index.shtml

It says:
" R-Studio utilities recover files:
...
After the partition with the files was reformatted, even for different file system;
...
"
http://www.data-recovery-software.net/#features

You may want to read this:
Specifics of File Recovery After a Quick Format
http://www.r-tt.com/Articles/NTFS_Recovery_after_Quick_Format/index.shtml

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Message 997027 - Posted: 19 May 2010, 3:40:38 UTC - in response to Message 996964.  

Recuva works quite well, and it's free. You'll need another hard drive that is large enough to store all the recovered data.

http://www.piriform.com/recuva

We tried a scan with this, but it only picked up the XBox files that my son had copied onto the drive. It said all the other stuff was unrecoverable. :(

Are any of the programs suggested capable of specifically recovering files from NTFS after the drive has been formatted FAT32?

I've taken the boyfriend off the case until I am satisfied that he knows what he is doing! (I think I hurt his feeling a little though).



GetDataBack for NTFS also I believe allowed you to try it free but didnt allow recovery until purchased. This prog has allowed me to recover a number of disks where the partition details had been destroyed as it scans the entire disk to find whatever underlying data is there.
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Message 997037 - Posted: 19 May 2010, 4:56:44 UTC - in response to Message 997022.  


You don't give us enough information to think about

1) Did you used "Deep scan"?
(Very important, because the file system and cluster size changed and the program do not know about this -
it "thinks" you are trying to recover the Xbox files you deleted from FAT32 file system)

You can try any other of the suggested programs in scan (read) mode but be sure to select the option to scan every sector of the disk.
It will be best if software allows to manually select the (corrupted) file system (you want NTFS) so the program will know what to search.

I did a deep scan, and it found files but wouldn't let me recover them.


2) You had about 100 GB of files on the disk (am I guessing right?) -
They are:
- a few (20-30) BIG (4 GB each) files (DVD images)
or
- many 1000s of small files?

Many 1000s of small files and the file structure is important. The teaching CD-roms i had saved on there were flash menus linked to 1000s of individual teaching worksheets and other tools. Without the file structure I can't find them to use them. (eg. find a worksheet for year 10s on voltage)


3) How many GB of data your son copied to the disk?

He said not a lot. 3 saved games.


4) "... all the other stuff was unrecoverable": how many files and how many GB of "other unrecoverable stuff" was found?

I will have to check this again.


P.S.
Raistmer pointed out this software:
http://www.r-studio.com/

It looks quite professional:
http://www.r-tt.com/Articles/Why_RStudio/index.shtml

It says:
" R-Studio utilities recover files:
...
After the partition with the files was reformatted, even for different file system;
...
"
http://www.data-recovery-software.net/#features

You may want to read this:
Specifics of File Recovery After a Quick Format
http://www.r-tt.com/Articles/NTFS_Recovery_after_Quick_Format/index.shtml

.

ok. will look at these again. I have allowed the BF to try a scan with a different program, I can't remember what it is, I will check this too.
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Message 997051 - Posted: 19 May 2010, 7:01:19 UTC - in response to Message 996698.  

I'll dress him up as a raccoon and send him to Angela.


Let's hope it doesn't come to that.
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Message 997110 - Posted: 19 May 2010, 14:33:11 UTC - in response to Message 996941.  


. . . Esme' - cheCk this out - i use Paragon software: PARAGON - Backup & Recovery 10 Suite Data Sheet

read carefully my friend - though it is quite easy to use

< the best to you & try not to hurt the little guy - though 'do' teaCh him a lesson ;))




+1 for this software. About as good as it gets.


depends on whether OR not one is capable [of] OR actually reads what is being asked in the first place

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Message 997162 - Posted: 19 May 2010, 17:48:06 UTC - in response to Message 997037.  
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ok. will look at these again. I have allowed the BF to try a scan with a different program, I can't remember what it is, I will check this too.

If nothing of above will help, try to look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TestDisk. There you can choose filesystem to search for. It can work with external media like USB-flashdisk...
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Message 997166 - Posted: 19 May 2010, 17:58:43 UTC - in response to Message 997162.  
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ok. will look at these again. I have allowed the BF to try a scan with a different program, I can't remember what it is, I will check this too.

If nothing of above will help, try to look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TestDisk. There you can choose filesystem to search for. It can work with external media like USB-flashdisk...


I used this one a few times to recover from drives for other people that accidentally lost their partition info altogether ( e.g. wiped a ntfs external drive on a Mac by mistake). It's possibly the most primitive user interface of the lot(difficult to use without some guidance), but probably one of the most powerful rescue tools I've ever used (and I've used a lot of different tools for different jobs.)

Detailed lost NTFS partition example walkthrough is at http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/Data_Recovery_Examples#Recovery_of_a_lost_and_damaged_NTFS

other examples/walkthroughs on the testdisk homepage also at http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk

[P.S.] I found that once the correct partition structure was found, and you were able to list files on the drive, copying entire folders off to another drive was a fairly easy task.
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