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nemesis  Send message Joined: 12 Oct 99 Posts: 1408 Credit: 35,074,350 RAC: 0 |
<----(geez! Pete is gonna out spend me! a 260, 275 and a 295? how in the heck am i gonna stay ahead of him? oh i forgot! the secret weapons.... muahaha muahaha!!!!) ID: 962900 ·  |
 hiamps  Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0 
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<----(geez! Pete is gonna out spend me! a 260, 275 and a 295? As the eastern sky earily glows..... Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! 
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hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0
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If you are getting a GTX 295 but only plan on having that one card in your machine you should look into getting 2 GTX275's. I believe you will get more bang and have more overclackable cards. Seems that the GTX 295 is 2 275's married together. Seems that a lot of people are having problems with the 295 and maybe 2 275's would be easier. Now if you plan on loading your machine up then get the 295. JMO Pete Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound!
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Dirk Sadowski Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5 
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AFAIK, the old 2x PCB GTX295 are two GTX260-216. The new 1x PCB, I don't know. In past I asked me: 2x GTX295 or 4x GTX260-216 and took the last. Because, for one year I read a lot of about.. The GPUs reach higher temps with GTX295, also much more noise to reach same temps like GTX260-216. Also there were OCed GTX260-216 out, no GTX295. Also I read about the probs of people with 9800GX2's (double GPU like GTX295) and they had latest after one year damaged GPUs.. And now, if I see the people with their probs with their GTX295 (2x PCB), I'm happy about my choice.. I guess the only way for people with 2x PCB GTX295, watercooling. ____________ [Optimized project applications, for to increase your PC performance (double RAC)!][Overview of abbreviations, which are used often in forum and their meaning.] 
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nemesis Send message Joined: 12 Oct 99 Posts: 1408 Credit: 35,074,350 RAC: 0 |
"As the eastern sky earily glows....." its glowing a bit brighter tonight... just added the third 260.... ID: 963376 · |
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SoNic Send message Joined: 24 Dec 00 Posts: 140 Credit: 2,963,627 RAC: 0 
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Even the modest ones can give some satisfacton :) After you grease that cheap sleeve bearings on the fan. As you see, is mandatory to have 512MB memory.  ID: 963396 · |
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Deadmann Send message Joined: 30 Jun 99 Posts: 13 Credit: 19,410,104 RAC: 7
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I'm unemployed and looking for a cheap way to do more work units. So I've been looking for a cheap CUDA board. I've found a place selling the BFG NVIDIA GeForce 210 512MB DDR2 board for $30 US. I really don't want to spend much more than that. My motherboard and power supply should support it ok. Will this be a decent board for the price? About have fast will it do work units? Does anyone recommend any other really cheap board? Any other comments? Thank you ID: 968915 · |
52 Aces  Send message Joined: 7 Jan 02 Posts: 497 Credit: 14,261,068 RAC: 67
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Does anyone recommend any other really cheap board? Try looking for used via Craigslist. If you live near a big metro area and are patient, eventually something comparable to your needs and price will come along. Yes, craigslist is Buyer Beware. ID: 968919 · |
gizbar  Send message Joined: 7 Jan 01 Posts: 586 Credit: 21,087,774 RAC: 0 
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I'm unemployed and looking for a cheap way to do more work units. So I've been looking for a cheap CUDA board. I've found a place selling the BFG NVIDIA GeForce 210 512MB DDR2 board for $30 US. I really don't want to spend much more than that. My motherboard and power supply should support it ok. Don't get sucked in too far. I know you want to help, and I admire you for that, but obviously crunching more uses more electricity, and if money is already tight... Need to find out if anybody here is already using one. I have a Phenom 9850 quad-core @2.9Ghz and before I upgraded it from an 8600GTS to a 9800GTX+ it was like have 5 cores at the same speed. Not sure what the lower cards can do. Please be sure you take into account all the extra costs. regards, Gizbar.  A proud GPU User Server Donor! ID: 968946 · |
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Dirk Sadowski Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5
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I'm unemployed and looking for a cheap way to do more work units. So I've been looking for a cheap CUDA board. I've found a place selling the BFG NVIDIA GeForce 210 512MB DDR2 board for $30 US. I really don't want to spend much more than that. My motherboard and power supply should support it ok. [http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_learn_products.html] -> [http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_210_us.html] 16 CUDA cores (new).. nVIDIA name now the shader cores CUDA cores.. ;-) So it have 16 shader cores or 2 CUDA cores (old).. I wouldn't expect too much from this. One of my 5 OCed GTX260-216 have a ~ 15,000 RAC, but have 216 shader/27 CUDA cores (old). The 210 use max. 30.5 W, if CUDA then ~ 2/3 so ~ 20 W. It's not easy to guess which RAC you could reach.. the specs are like a 8500 GT. Maybe you find in the top_host_list a PC with 210 or 8500 GT. [http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_hosts.php] I would guess ~ 1,000 RAC. If you follow the first URL, there are all GPUs which can CUDA. If a very well performance/wattage ratio, I would go with the new 40nm GPU chip, 210/GT220/240 GPUs. [http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gt_240_us.html] 69 W max. - ~ 46 W CUDA - 96 shader cores - 12 CUDA cores (old) - maybe 5,000 RAC. ____________ [Optimized project applications, for to increase your PC performance (double RAC)!][Overview of abbreviations, which are used often in forum and their meaning.]
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hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0
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I'm unemployed and looking for a cheap way to do more work units. So I've been looking for a cheap CUDA board. I've found a place selling the BFG NVIDIA GeForce 210 512MB DDR2 board for $30 US. I really don't want to spend much more than that. My motherboard and power supply should support it ok. If I were you I would spring just a bit more into it and find a refurbished 9600GSO with the 96 cores, it is the only one worth getting. It made my old 3.06 do 5000 RAC. I believe I paid around $54.00. Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound!
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hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0
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<----(geez! Pete is gonna out spend me! a 260, 275 and a 295? By then I expect to have 3 GTX 395's.....Been holding off buying anything other than my PSU, if and when the new cards do come out the old ones should be a lot cheaper. Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound!
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hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0
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<----(geez! Pete is gonna out spend me! a 260, 275 and a 295? Looks like another excuse for the delays....Well then make it 400 series but now I am betting on 500 series....Wonder if they get funding from Microsoft and boeing? They are always way behind also... Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound!
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hiamps Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0
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<----(geez! Pete is gonna out spend me! a 260, 275 and a 295? I was trying to be funny, didn't work. Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound!
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52 Aces Send message Joined: 7 Jan 02 Posts: 497 Credit: 14,261,068 RAC: 67
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I think I will get the GTS 250 and then another one a few months later :-) Hi Dan, I got the GTS 250, and am very happy with it, except for one small nit ---> it's the last of the line that WON'T run the GPU app for the Milkyway project. Something to do with CUDA 3.x. Of course, there was no way for me to know this at the time of purchase (5 months ago). Sooo... if I had the money back and the decision to make over again, I would keep as many options open as possible and would make the effort to go just one notch higher to the 260 (and delay the purchase of a second card if necessary). ID: 969102 · |
Phil J Taylor  Send message Joined: 26 Dec 09 Posts: 96 Credit: 603,521 RAC: 0
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I've also got a GTS 250 with 1G (GDDR3) that will run the AP app ... I think. However, my performance doesn't seem to approach 52 Aces ... but I am also using the latest drivers ... and my clock rate is a little slower. I'd agree that you would probably be a lot happier if you go a notch or two up. ID: 969202 · |
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Dirk Sadowski Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5
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nVIDIA can CUDA, so you could let run only MB. You could let run on ATI a CPU/ATI GPU hybrid app of AP. nVIDIA -> MB ATI -> AP 'NVIDIA or ATI - Which is giving better performance' Not all new is better: 'Nvidia 195.62? You can keep it!' Open your eyes if you visit a forum! ;-) ____________ [Optimized project applications, for to increase your PC performance (double RAC)!][Overview of abbreviations, which are used often in forum and their meaning.]
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Dirk Sadowski Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 7105 Credit: 147,663,825 RAC: 5
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[...] AFAIK, CUDA V3.0 is still BETA, or? And MilkyWay send this out? Why you couldn't let run MilkyWay on an 'old' GTS250? I couldn't imagine why. But, I have no experiences with this project.. So MilkyWay accept only new GTx2xx series GPUs? ____________ [Optimized project applications, for to increase your PC performance (double RAC)!][Overview of abbreviations, which are used often in forum and their meaning.]
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Richard Haselgrove  Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14690 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874
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So MilkyWay accept only new GTx2xx series GPUs? I have no experience with MilkyWay either. But it's been written often enough on various BOINC boards that they require double-precision hardware, so boards based on G200-series chips (GTX 2xx), not the G92b chip in the GTS 250. Nothing to do with the CUDA 3.0 software at all. ID: 969238 · |
Al     Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1682 Credit: 477,343,364 RAC: 482
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[quote] [http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_learn_products.html] -> [http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_210_us.html] 16 CUDA cores (new).. nVIDIA name now the shader cores CUDA cores.. ;-) So it have 16 shader cores or 2 CUDA cores (old).. I wouldn't expect too much from this. One of my 5 OCed GTX260-216 have a ~ 15,000 RAC, but have 216 shader/27 CUDA cores (old). The 210 use max. 30.5 W, if CUDA then ~ 2/3 so ~ 20 W. It's not easy to guess which RAC you could reach.. the specs are like a 8500 GT. Maybe you find in the top_host_list a PC with 210 or 8500 GT. [http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_hosts.php] I would guess ~ 1,000 RAC. If you follow the first URL, there are all GPUs which can CUDA. If a very well performance/wattage ratio, I would go with the new 40nm GPU chip, 210/GT220/240 GPUs. [http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gt_240_us.html] 69 W max. - ~ 46 W CUDA - 96 shader cores - 12 CUDA cores (old) - maybe 5,000 RAC. I've read this thread, and am trying to decide which video card to start putting in my farm. I purchased a couple low end cards last year (8000 series I believe) and though they worked, the RAC was very low, below 1000 for sure. I tried them as they were the best PCI based CUDA cards I could find, but as their RAC is so low, I've decided that I will just skip doing multi-cards in these boards (only one PCI-E slot, the rest are PCI) and go with one "winner" card, it's much more cost effective, even though those cards were well under $50. While at Microcenter today, I grabbed a EVGA GT220 for around $75-80, but since I got home, I started reading up, found this thread, and hit Neweggs' site comparing cards. I like the thought of perf/watt, and while doing the research, found that the 240 Superclocked does idle/full load of 146/203 stock, a little more when OC'ed, and the GTX 260 Core 216 Superclocked is at 159/274 stock, at least at the review sites I found. I guess the main question now would be RAC/watt, because in the long haul, that has to come into play for utility budgetary reasons. I'm all for a higher RAC, all things being somewhat equal, but they can't be _too_ far out of whack. Does anyone have a good idea as to the RAC/watt ratio of these 2 cards? I'm pretty sure at this point I'll be returning the GT220, it doesn't look like much of at folding card anymore, especially since the 240 Superclocked is under $100, and looks to be quite a bit better performer. One thing I noticed, there are 2 240 cards, one labeled Superclocked and the other not, Superclocked version has 512 meg, the other has a gig, both nearly the same specs (clock, DDR5, stream procs) though the Effective Memory Clock was 3588 MHz (Superclocked) and 850MHz (3.4Gbps effective) for the 1 gig model. Does more memory (after a certain point, whatever that is) necessairly equate to better performace in CUDA? Any thoughts are appreciated.  
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