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Message 962900 - Posted: 13 Jan 2010, 0:06:29 UTC

<----(geez! Pete is gonna out spend me! a 260, 275 and a 295?
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Message 963018 - Posted: 13 Jan 2010, 19:07:45 UTC - in response to Message 962900.  

<----(geez! Pete is gonna out spend me! a 260, 275 and a 295?
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Message 963024 - Posted: 13 Jan 2010, 19:13:54 UTC

If you are getting a GTX 295 but only plan on having that one card in your machine you should look into getting 2 GTX275's. I believe you will get more bang and have more overclackable cards. Seems that the GTX 295 is 2 275's married together. Seems that a lot of people are having problems with the 295 and maybe 2 275's would be easier. Now if you plan on loading your machine up then get the 295. JMO

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Message 963123 - Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 0:28:05 UTC
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AFAIK, the old 2x PCB GTX295 are two GTX260-216.

The new 1x PCB, I don't know.


In past I asked me: 2x GTX295 or 4x GTX260-216 and took the last.
Because, for one year I read a lot of about.. The GPUs reach higher temps with GTX295, also much more noise to reach same temps like GTX260-216.
Also there were OCed GTX260-216 out, no GTX295.

Also I read about the probs of people with 9800GX2's (double GPU like GTX295) and they had latest after one year damaged GPUs..

And now, if I see the people with their probs with their GTX295 (2x PCB), I'm happy about my choice..

I guess the only way for people with 2x PCB GTX295, watercooling.


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Message 963376 - Posted: 15 Jan 2010, 1:32:31 UTC

"As the eastern sky earily glows....."
its glowing a bit brighter tonight...
just added the third 260....

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Message 963396 - Posted: 15 Jan 2010, 5:15:21 UTC
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Even the modest ones can give some satisfacton :) After you grease that cheap sleeve bearings on the fan. As you see, is mandatory to have 512MB memory.

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Message 968915 - Posted: 7 Feb 2010, 5:44:44 UTC

I'm unemployed and looking for a cheap way to do more work units. So I've been looking for a cheap CUDA board. I've found a place selling the BFG NVIDIA GeForce 210 512MB DDR2 board for $30 US. I really don't want to spend much more than that. My motherboard and power supply should support it ok.

Will this be a decent board for the price?

About have fast will it do work units?

Does anyone recommend any other really cheap board?

Any other comments?

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Message 968919 - Posted: 7 Feb 2010, 6:09:47 UTC - in response to Message 968915.  

Does anyone recommend any other really cheap board?

Try looking for used via Craigslist. If you live near a big metro area and are patient, eventually something comparable to your needs and price will come along. Yes, craigslist is Buyer Beware.
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Message 968946 - Posted: 7 Feb 2010, 7:50:45 UTC - in response to Message 968915.  

I'm unemployed and looking for a cheap way to do more work units. So I've been looking for a cheap CUDA board. I've found a place selling the BFG NVIDIA GeForce 210 512MB DDR2 board for $30 US. I really don't want to spend much more than that. My motherboard and power supply should support it ok.

Will this be a decent board for the price?

About have fast will it do work units?

Does anyone recommend any other really cheap board?

Any other comments?

Thank you


Don't get sucked in too far. I know you want to help, and I admire you for that, but obviously crunching more uses more electricity, and if money is already tight...

Need to find out if anybody here is already using one. I have a Phenom 9850 quad-core @2.9Ghz and before I upgraded it from an 8600GTS to a 9800GTX+ it was like have 5 cores at the same speed. Not sure what the lower cards can do.

Please be sure you take into account all the extra costs.

regards, Gizbar.


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Message 968992 - Posted: 7 Feb 2010, 12:41:36 UTC - in response to Message 968915.  
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I'm unemployed and looking for a cheap way to do more work units. So I've been looking for a cheap CUDA board. I've found a place selling the BFG NVIDIA GeForce 210 512MB DDR2 board for $30 US. I really don't want to spend much more than that. My motherboard and power supply should support it ok.

Will this be a decent board for the price?

About have fast will it do work units?

Does anyone recommend any other really cheap board?

Any other comments?

Thank you


[http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_learn_products.html] ->
[http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_210_us.html]

16 CUDA cores (new).. nVIDIA name now the shader cores CUDA cores.. ;-)

So it have 16 shader cores or 2 CUDA cores (old)..
I wouldn't expect too much from this.

One of my 5 OCed GTX260-216 have a ~ 15,000 RAC, but have 216 shader/27 CUDA cores (old).

The 210 use max. 30.5 W, if CUDA then ~ 2/3 so ~ 20 W.

It's not easy to guess which RAC you could reach.. the specs are like a 8500 GT. Maybe you find in the top_host_list a PC with 210 or 8500 GT.
[http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_hosts.php]
I would guess ~ 1,000 RAC.

If you follow the first URL, there are all GPUs which can CUDA.
If a very well performance/wattage ratio, I would go with the new 40nm GPU chip, 210/GT220/240 GPUs.

[http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gt_240_us.html]
69 W max. - ~ 46 W CUDA - 96 shader cores - 12 CUDA cores (old) - maybe 5,000 RAC.


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Message 969027 - Posted: 7 Feb 2010, 18:10:40 UTC - in response to Message 968915.  

I'm unemployed and looking for a cheap way to do more work units. So I've been looking for a cheap CUDA board. I've found a place selling the BFG NVIDIA GeForce 210 512MB DDR2 board for $30 US. I really don't want to spend much more than that. My motherboard and power supply should support it ok.

Will this be a decent board for the price?

About have fast will it do work units?

Does anyone recommend any other really cheap board?

Any other comments?

Thank you

If I were you I would spring just a bit more into it and find a refurbished 9600GSO with the 96 cores, it is the only one worth getting. It made my old 3.06 do 5000 RAC. I believe I paid around $54.00.
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Message 969032 - Posted: 7 Feb 2010, 18:26:51 UTC - in response to Message 962900.  
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<----(geez! Pete is gonna out spend me! a 260, 275 and a 295?
how in the heck am i gonna stay ahead of him? oh i forgot!
the secret weapons....
muahaha muahaha!!!!)

[palpatine]I'm afraid I must burst Yer bubble[/palpatine], It may take a bit in this "bushed" economy, But I have a motherboard that supports 3 video cards, I'm on track in My long range planning for a 2nd GTX295 and eventually for a 3rd(used of course, Fermis can't be mixed with older cards as their supposed to be DX11 cards, In any case I have other things to get that I lack or just want to get done[I have a to do list, Just no honey :D]). But then I already have 1 GTX 295...
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Message 969035 - Posted: 7 Feb 2010, 18:34:24 UTC - in response to Message 969032.  

<----(geez! Pete is gonna out spend me! a 260, 275 and a 295?
how in the heck am i gonna stay ahead of him? oh i forgot!
the secret weapons....
muahaha muahaha!!!!)

[palpatine]I'm afraid I must burst Yer bubble[/palpatine], It may take a bit in this "bushed" economy, But I have a motherboard that supports 3 video cards, I'm on track in My long range planning for a 2nd GTX295 and eventually for a 3rd(used of course, Fermis can't be mixed with older cards as their supposed to be DX11 cards, In any case I have other things to get that I lack or just want to get done[I have a to do list, Just no honey :D]). But then I already have 1 GTX 295...

By then I expect to have 3 GTX 395's.....Been holding off buying anything other than my PSU, if and when the new cards do come out the old ones should be a lot cheaper.
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Message 969036 - Posted: 7 Feb 2010, 18:37:56 UTC - in response to Message 969035.  

<----(geez! Pete is gonna out spend me! a 260, 275 and a 295?
how in the heck am i gonna stay ahead of him? oh i forgot!
the secret weapons....
muahaha muahaha!!!!)

[palpatine]I'm afraid I must burst Yer bubble[/palpatine], It may take a bit in this "bushed" economy, But I have a motherboard that supports 3 video cards, I'm on track in My long range planning for a 2nd GTX295 and eventually for a 3rd(used of course, Fermis can't be mixed with older cards as their supposed to be DX11 cards, In any case I have other things to get that I lack or just want to get done[I have a to do list, Just no honey :D]). But then I already have 1 GTX 295...

By then I expect to have 3 GTX 395's.....Been holding off buying anything other than my PSU, if and when the new cards do come out the old ones should be a lot cheaper.

Sorry but there's no such card, Try the 400 series, Nvidia skipped the 300's. Like Lets see there's the Nvidia GTX 470 and 480.
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Message 969038 - Posted: 7 Feb 2010, 18:40:33 UTC - in response to Message 969036.  

<----(geez! Pete is gonna out spend me! a 260, 275 and a 295?
how in the heck am i gonna stay ahead of him? oh i forgot!
the secret weapons....
muahaha muahaha!!!!)

[palpatine]I'm afraid I must burst Yer bubble[/palpatine], It may take a bit in this "bushed" economy, But I have a motherboard that supports 3 video cards, I'm on track in My long range planning for a 2nd GTX295 and eventually for a 3rd(used of course, Fermis can't be mixed with older cards as their supposed to be DX11 cards, In any case I have other things to get that I lack or just want to get done[I have a to do list, Just no honey :D]). But then I already have 1 GTX 295...

By then I expect to have 3 GTX 395's.....Been holding off buying anything other than my PSU, if and when the new cards do come out the old ones should be a lot cheaper.

Sorry but there's no such card, Try the 400 series, Nvidia skipped the 300's. Like Lets see there's the Nvidia GTX 470 and 480.

Looks like another excuse for the delays....Well then make it 400 series but now I am betting on 500 series....Wonder if they get funding from Microsoft and boeing? They are always way behind also...
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Message 969046 - Posted: 7 Feb 2010, 18:58:20 UTC - in response to Message 969038.  

<----(geez! Pete is gonna out spend me! a 260, 275 and a 295?
how in the heck am i gonna stay ahead of him? oh i forgot!
the secret weapons....
muahaha muahaha!!!!)

[palpatine]I'm afraid I must burst Yer bubble[/palpatine], It may take a bit in this "bushed" economy, But I have a motherboard that supports 3 video cards, I'm on track in My long range planning for a 2nd GTX295 and eventually for a 3rd(used of course, Fermis can't be mixed with older cards as their supposed to be DX11 cards, In any case I have other things to get that I lack or just want to get done[I have a to do list, Just no honey :D]). But then I already have 1 GTX 295...

By then I expect to have 3 GTX 395's.....Been holding off buying anything other than my PSU, if and when the new cards do come out the old ones should be a lot cheaper.

Sorry but there's no such card, Try the 400 series, Nvidia skipped the 300's. Like Lets see there's the Nvidia GTX 470 and 480.

Looks like another excuse for the delays....Well then make it 400 series but now I am betting on 500 series....Wonder if they get funding from Microsoft and boeing? They are always way behind also...

I seriously doubt It.
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Message 969049 - Posted: 7 Feb 2010, 19:03:04 UTC - in response to Message 969046.  

<----(geez! Pete is gonna out spend me! a 260, 275 and a 295?
how in the heck am i gonna stay ahead of him? oh i forgot!
the secret weapons....
muahaha muahaha!!!!)

[palpatine]I'm afraid I must burst Yer bubble[/palpatine], It may take a bit in this "bushed" economy, But I have a motherboard that supports 3 video cards, I'm on track in My long range planning for a 2nd GTX295 and eventually for a 3rd(used of course, Fermis can't be mixed with older cards as their supposed to be DX11 cards, In any case I have other things to get that I lack or just want to get done[I have a to do list, Just no honey :D]). But then I already have 1 GTX 295...

By then I expect to have 3 GTX 395's.....Been holding off buying anything other than my PSU, if and when the new cards do come out the old ones should be a lot cheaper.

Sorry but there's no such card, Try the 400 series, Nvidia skipped the 300's. Like Lets see there's the Nvidia GTX 470 and 480.

Looks like another excuse for the delays....Well then make it 400 series but now I am betting on 500 series....Wonder if they get funding from Microsoft and boeing? They are always way behind also...

I seriously doubt It.

I was trying to be funny, didn't work.
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Message 969053 - Posted: 7 Feb 2010, 19:14:21 UTC - in response to Message 969049.  

<----(geez! Pete is gonna out spend me! a 260, 275 and a 295?
how in the heck am i gonna stay ahead of him? oh i forgot!
the secret weapons....
muahaha muahaha!!!!)

[palpatine]I'm afraid I must burst Yer bubble[/palpatine], It may take a bit in this "bushed" economy, But I have a motherboard that supports 3 video cards, I'm on track in My long range planning for a 2nd GTX295 and eventually for a 3rd(used of course, Fermis can't be mixed with older cards as their supposed to be DX11 cards, In any case I have other things to get that I lack or just want to get done[I have a to do list, Just no honey :D]). But then I already have 1 GTX 295...

By then I expect to have 3 GTX 395's.....Been holding off buying anything other than my PSU, if and when the new cards do come out the old ones should be a lot cheaper.

Sorry but there's no such card, Try the 400 series, Nvidia skipped the 300's. Like Lets see there's the Nvidia GTX 470 and 480.

Looks like another excuse for the delays....Well then make it 400 series but now I am betting on 500 series....Wonder if they get funding from Microsoft and boeing? They are always way behind also...

I seriously doubt It.

I was trying to be funny, didn't work.

Sorry, You may have been funny to others, But some stuff goes past Me and I don't see It, So It's not Yer fault or Mine for that matter.
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Message 969102 - Posted: 7 Feb 2010, 22:35:01 UTC

I think I will get the GTS 250 and then another one a few months later :-)

Hi Dan,

I got the GTS 250, and am very happy with it, except for one small nit ---> it's the last of the line that WON'T run the GPU app for the Milkyway project. Something to do with CUDA 3.x. Of course, there was no way for me to know this at the time of purchase (5 months ago).

Sooo... if I had the money back and the decision to make over again, I would keep as many options open as possible and would make the effort to go just one notch higher to the 260 (and delay the purchase of a second card if necessary).
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Message 969202 - Posted: 8 Feb 2010, 8:30:46 UTC - in response to Message 969102.  

I've also got a GTS 250 with 1G (GDDR3) that will run the AP app ... I think.

However, my performance doesn't seem to approach 52 Aces ... but I am also using the latest drivers ... and my clock rate is a little slower.

I'd agree that you would probably be a lot happier if you go a notch or two up.
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