fired for using Seti and boinc

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hiamps Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0	Message 952171 - Posted: 4 Dec 2009, 2:57:49 UTC Last modified: 4 Dec 2009, 2:58:26 UTC There is a link to Erics responce in the number crunching "truth about Nez" thread. About what I thought.... Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! ID: 952171 ·

LiliKrist Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 12 Aug 09 Posts: 333 Credit: 143,167 RAC: 0	Message 952176 - Posted: 4 Dec 2009, 3:28:41 UTC sssttttt...let's hear people from S@H speak ok =) It's the right time for them to give explanation. Then we shall wait NEZ speak-up too N = R x fp x ne x fl x fi x fc x L ID: 952176 ·

52 Aces Send message Joined: 7 Jan 02 Posts: 497 Credit: 14,261,068 RAC: 67	Message 952200 - Posted: 4 Dec 2009, 7:00:53 UTC - in response to Message 952151. Berkely and this project should do nothing. They did not do anything wrong. I dunno, whenever people hear a corporation or politician shout "I did nothing wrong," well, odds are they did. At minimum, doing nothing is not a defence of doing nothing wrong, and certainly isn't a platform to argue you did something right. But that's corporations and politicians -- NOT an academic institution (which ideally has higher ethical side-values). It can be argued Nez got selfish & greedy (and is paying the price). My 2 cents is standing by as an individual antes in 50, 500, 5000, or more machines which so clearly fails the sniff test puts S@H (grata the boinc framework) into the same greedy selfish bucket. ID: 952200 ·

kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51523 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 952207 - Posted: 4 Dec 2009, 7:21:47 UTC Last modified: 4 Dec 2009, 7:24:54 UTC I am not really passing judgment on NEZ...... I think maybe he was somebody who got caught up in his enthusiasm for this project, and got a bit carried away.....on my own level, so have I. Did he really think he had full permission to do so? Or did he think he was getting away with it on the sly? Dunno. He certainly did not make a presence on these forum boards to bask in his glory, such as it was. Curious. Was that because he knew all along that he was taking advantage of his position inappropriately? Dunno. Are the 'damages' being claimed by the school district being blown a bit out of proportion? Probably. Did they suffer some damages (power costs) due to the claimed unauthorized running of Boinc/Seti software? Certainly. Was this whole thing brought to a head by behind the scenes politics with a hidden agenda? Plausibly. Is Boinc/Seti/Berkeley at all to blame in this boondoggle? Forget it..... Not any more than if NEZ had picked some other piece of freeware and loaded it onto every computer he had access to. The story will undoubtedly unfold in the courts as time goes by...and I am sure most of us will welcome the truthful disclosure of information from the court system as opposed to the sensationalistic fabrication of information afforded by the press at this point in time. BTW...has NEZ made any public statement about the whole situation? Or, as I suspect, is he laying low on the advice of his lawyers? "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ID: 952207 ·

Dirk Villarreal Wittich Send message Joined: 25 Apr 00 Posts: 2098 Credit: 434,834 RAC: 0	Message 952210 - Posted: 4 Dec 2009, 7:28:19 UTC - in response to Message 952207. Last modified: 4 Dec 2009, 7:29:06 UTC I am not really passing judgment on NEZ...... I think maybe he was somebody who got caught up in his enthusiasm for this project, and got a bit carried away.....on my own level, so have I. Did he really think he had full permission to do so? Or did he think he was getting away with it on the sly? Dunno. He certainly did not make a presence on these forum boards to bask in his glory, such as it was. Curious. Was that because he knew all along that he was taking advantage of his position inappropriately? Dunno. Are the 'damages' being claimed by the school district being blown a bit out of proportion? Probably. Did they suffer some damages (power costs) due to the claimed unauthorized running of Boinc/Seti software? Certainly. Was this whole thing brought to a head by behind the scenes politics with a hidden agenda? Plausibly. Is Boinc/Seti/Berkeley at all to blame in this boondoggle? Forget it..... Not any more than if NEZ had picked some other piece of freeware and loaded it onto every computer he had access to. The story will undoubtedly unfold in the courts as time goes by...and I am sure most of us will welcome the truthful disclosure of information from the court system as opposed to the sensationalistic fabrication of information afforded by the press at this point in time. BTW...has NEZ made any public statement about the whole situation? Or, as I suspect, is he laying low on the advice of his lawyers? msattler....as a good/top BOINC cruncher (NEZ, I mean), he is now lurking around!!! LOL ID: 952210 ·

kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51523 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 952217 - Posted: 4 Dec 2009, 8:04:12 UTC - in response to Message 952210. msattler....as a good/top BOINC cruncher (NEZ, I mean), he is now lurking around!!! LOL I would be quite happy if he would quit lurking and finally post a few things here to clarify the situation......as he has been quite secretive in the past. Of course, I am not sure of the status of his account, or if he could even still post. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ID: 952217 ·

Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0	Message 952262 - Posted: 4 Dec 2009, 9:33:22 UTC - in response to Message 952115. [quote] We still are waiting for our day in court. . . . interesting choice of words . . . ;) NEZ=ZEN BOINC Wiki . . . Science Status Page . . . ID: 952262 ·

kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51523 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 952283 - Posted: 4 Dec 2009, 11:11:08 UTC - in response to Message 952262. [quote] We still are waiting for our day in court. . . . interesting choice of words . . . ;) NEZ=ZEN And I thought that the Buick/mailbox thingy back in about '79 was forgotten.......meow. "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ID: 952283 ·

Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0	Message 952284 - Posted: 4 Dec 2009, 11:12:45 UTC ~ off-topic ~ lurk = krul ~ baCk - on - topic ~ BOINC Wiki . . . Science Status Page . . . ID: 952284 ·

kittyman Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51523 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004	Message 952288 - Posted: 4 Dec 2009, 11:25:41 UTC - in response to Message 952284. ~ off-topic ~ lurk = krul ~ baCk - on - topic ~ See ya, Richard,...........nice talking to ya........ I have a beam of light to catch....... "Time is simply the mechanism that keeps everything from happening all at once." ID: 952288 ·

skildude Send message Joined: 4 Oct 00 Posts: 9541 Credit: 50,759,529 RAC: 60	Message 952347 - Posted: 4 Dec 2009, 16:05:13 UTC heck NEZ might even crunch on a second account name without anyone knowing about it. He might even be among us without anyone even knowing about it In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face. Diogenes Of Sinope ID: 952347 ·

hiamps Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0	Message 952352 - Posted: 4 Dec 2009, 16:19:26 UTC - in response to Message 952347. heck NEZ might even crunch on a second account name without anyone knowing about it. He might even be among us without anyone even knowing about it Just my thoughts... Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! ID: 952352 ·

Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0	Message 952355 - Posted: 4 Dec 2009, 16:26:12 UTC - in response to Message 952352. heck NEZ might even crunch on a second account name without anyone knowing about it. He might even be among us without anyone even knowing about it Just my thoughts... '/ BOINC Wiki . . . Science Status Page . . . ID: 952355 ·

52 Aces Send message Joined: 7 Jan 02 Posts: 497 Credit: 14,261,068 RAC: 67	Message 952356 - Posted: 4 Dec 2009, 16:26:33 UTC - in response to Message 952347. Last modified: 4 Dec 2009, 16:32:14 UTC heck NEZ might even crunch on a second account name without anyone knowing about it. He might even be among us without anyone even knowing about it Oh, that's a given. I know I've seen that same photo before several weeks ago somewhere else in the boinc metaverse. Not that we all don't begin to look alike. Not sure if others have seen this video from Fox news. Birdwell looks more like Big Bird (sorry, I'm allowed one cheap shot per month, and that was it). Oh... be sure to freezeframe, and you'll see MSAttler's name go by... http://www.fox5vegas.com/education/21785128/detail.html And the video --> http://www.fox5vegas.com/video/21785181/ Yikes, 7 kids... nez wasn't just a wu stud. ID: 952356 ·

Misfit Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0	Message 952432 - Posted: 4 Dec 2009, 20:34:31 UTC - in response to Message 952352. heck NEZ might even crunch on a second account name without anyone knowing about it. He might even be among us without anyone even knowing about it Just my thoughts... Hi! ::waves:: Misfit might want to get a lawyer, because if there is a suit or criminal case, all his PM's are going to get read to a jury and he may well be the one reading them. Especially one about Nez starting up again soon, if I remember it right. You mean my unpaid speeding ticket I got in Arizona 20 years ago will come back to haunt me? I got some sign language regarding that. Or will Zain be testifying what exactly is BOINC Synergy from all those invites I sent? They had better fly him first class. My fearless leader deserves nothing less. me@rescam.org ID: 952432 ·

Misfit Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0	Message 952433 - Posted: 4 Dec 2009, 20:38:08 UTC - in response to Message 952356. Last modified: 4 Dec 2009, 20:39:02 UTC Yikes, 7 kids... nez wasn't just a wu stud. Can you blame him? :) [Edit] aw man, he deleted his pic. me@rescam.org ID: 952433 ·

Raistmer Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121	Message 952436 - Posted: 4 Dec 2009, 20:47:00 UTC - in response to Message 952200. It can be argued Nez got selfish & greedy (and is paying the price). OMG.... How long it will be, what a perverted minds, ah? Once more SETI@home is not about credits If for some of participants only credits are matters, maybe it's worth to keep this shame fact out from public and at least don't expand such approach on other participants, ah? Nez did so much work == he is bigger credit hound ?!!! WTF! Never read much Cafee threads before and never as far as I can remember posted here. Now I exactly know the reason: too much dirt in the posts! ID: 952436 ·

hiamps Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 4292 Credit: 72,971,319 RAC: 0	Message 952439 - Posted: 4 Dec 2009, 20:56:15 UTC - in response to Message 952433. Yikes, 7 kids... nez wasn't just a wu stud. Can you blame him? :) [Edit] aw man, he deleted his pic. Nope, I always kind of thought you were Nez.... Official Abuser of Boinc Buttons... And no good credit hound! ID: 952439 ·

Misfit Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0	Message 952441 - Posted: 4 Dec 2009, 20:59:46 UTC - in response to Message 952439. Yikes, 7 kids... nez wasn't just a wu stud. Can you blame him? :) [Edit] aw man, he deleted his pic. Nope, I always kind of thought you were Nez.... Heh, you're not the first. I only fooled people into thinking I'm in SoCal. Just don't tell the berkeley/higley campus cops. @Raistmer: Credit whores belong at MilkyWay. That project keeps ATI afloat. :D me@rescam.org ID: 952441 ·

Rick B Send message Joined: 6 Mar 01 Posts: 299 Credit: 1,532,791 RAC: 0	Message 952477 - Posted: 4 Dec 2009, 22:26:20 UTC - in response to Message 952441. Last modified: 4 Dec 2009, 22:29:35 UTC Cheers to Nancy Gohring of IDG News Service for reporting this story properly! Uproar Over E.T. Hunter Misplaced, SETI@home Founder Says Rick ************************** ID: 952477 ·

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