Swine Flu - media hype?

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Fuzzy Hollynoodles Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0	Message 890399 - Posted: 2 May 2009, 2:07:32 UTC - in response to Message 889818. A better way to prevent catching the flu (or just common colds, for that matter) is to wash your hands, often and well. This is true. The first thing I do when I get home from shopping or work, or anywhere else for that matter, is to go and wash my hands. Most infections are spread because people don't wash their hands often enough, then they touch door handles and other things other people have touched before, where after they touch themselves in their faces and around their mouths. A lot of germs and vira are being spread that way. They found out that most of the infections in hospitals are caused by doctors who don't wash their hands. Ewww! :-( This swine flu hype reminds me of the bird flu hype some years ago, where they actually found dead birds with the virus here in my country, but no people actually got it. The best about it was that chicken was on sale a long time after, lot of chicken meat, very cheap. I had a lot of dishes with chicken those months! No, I don't jump on this wagon this time, I haven't had a normal flu for years, why would I catch something so exotic that only a handful of people have been held at the hospital here for observation, where it turned out that they didn't have this virus. But of course it takes the attention away from other more banal things, such as the economical crisis, people being laid off from their work, all those things that are more common and relevant to a lot more people than some exotic flu virus. Talking about a pandemy is highly overstating this flu. IMNSHO! "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me ID: 890399 ·

zoom3+1=4 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65821 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49	Message 890402 - Posted: 2 May 2009, 2:23:26 UTC - in response to Message 890236. Last modified: 2 May 2009, 2:23:44 UTC Rumsfeld was Chairman of the Board at the company that produces Tamiflu. He holds an estimated $20 million in shares in the company. Every time there is a pandemic scare, he receives another Brinks truck full of money. My dad never liked Me saying this, But... So what? It's not like He stole anything, He's making the money honestly and that's to be admired. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's ID: 890402 ·

John McLeod VII Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 15 Jul 99 Posts: 24806 Credit: 790,712 RAC: 0	Message 890429 - Posted: 2 May 2009, 4:27:13 UTC - in response to Message 890402. Rumsfeld was Chairman of the Board at the company that produces Tamiflu. He holds an estimated $20 million in shares in the company. Every time there is a pandemic scare, he receives another Brinks truck full of money. My dad never liked Me saying this, But... So what? It's not like He stole anything, He's making the money honestly and that's to be admired. Besides, if it does turn out to be a nasty flu, TamiFlu is one of 2 drugs that can really reduce symptoms. I am glad that the drug is there just in case. BOINC WIKI ID: 890429 ·

Misfit Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0	Message 890439 - Posted: 2 May 2009, 5:16:53 UTC ID: 890439 ·

Mike Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34269 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80	Message 890470 - Posted: 2 May 2009, 8:13:19 UTC - in response to Message 890429. Rumsfeld was Chairman of the Board at the company that produces Tamiflu. He holds an estimated $20 million in shares in the company. Every time there is a pandemic scare, he receives another Brinks truck full of money. My dad never liked Me saying this, But... So what? It's not like He stole anything, He's making the money honestly and that's to be admired. Besides, if it does turn out to be a nasty flu, TamiFlu is one of 2 drugs that can really reduce symptoms. I am glad that the drug is there just in case. People are buying it to be prepared. But if anyone takes it without beeing infected they got resistant. BTW the WHO is on level 5 of 6. So i dont think we can talk about a hype anymore. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. ID: 890470 ·

KWSN Ekky Ekky Ekky Send message Joined: 25 May 99 Posts: 944 Credit: 52,956,491 RAC: 67	Message 890487 - Posted: 2 May 2009, 10:05:15 UTC Last modified: 2 May 2009, 10:10:46 UTC The antivirals are not really so effective. Better than nothing but symptoms may be alleviated by only a fifth to a quarter. Neither Tamiflu nor Relenza protect against influenza-type viruses at all when taken as a precaution. But if anyone takes it without beeing infected they got resistant. I do not quite understand Mike's statement about resistance. Against what? The disease or the effectiveness of antivirals? Check out this article before wasting money on preventative measures that have no effect. Come the pandemic, the drugs do work.[/edit] From further research I have been unable to substantiate earlier claims that there is any mask that gives protection against viruses. They would have to be completely airtight breathing systems to be effective at all. There exists no commercial face mask as seen on TV in recent days that can prevent a virus passing straight through it. Anyway, the whole thing has been substantially downgraded according to this: Flu death toll 'less than feared'. [edit]Just found this as well.Preliminary analysis of the swine flu virus suggests it is a fairly mild strain, scientists say. ID: 890487 ·

Mike Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34269 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80	Message 890490 - Posted: 2 May 2009, 10:18:07 UTC - in response to Message 890487. Last modified: 2 May 2009, 10:18:38 UTC The antivirals are not really so effective. Better than nothing but symptoms may be alleviated by only a fifth to a quarter. Neither Tamiflu nor Relenza protect against influenza-type viruses at all when taken as a precaution. But if anyone takes it without beeing infected they got resistant. I do not quite understand Mike's statement about resistance. Against what? The disease or the effectiveness of antivirals? Check out this article before wasting money on preventative measures that have no effect. Come the pandemic, the drugs do work.[/edit] From further research I have been unable to substantiate earlier claims that there is any mask that gives protection against viruses. They would have to be completely airtight breathing systems to be effective at all. There exists no commercial face mask as seen on TV in recent days that can prevent a virus passing straight through it. Anyway, the whole thing has been substantially downgraded according to this: Flu death toll 'less than feared'. [edit]Just found this as well.Preliminary analysis of the swine flu virus suggests it is a fairly mild strain, scientists say. Its simple Peter. If you use Tamiflu while not infected it will not help when you get it later. You are resistant. It only helps if you are infected. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. ID: 890490 ·

Fuzzy Hollynoodles Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 9659 Credit: 251,998 RAC: 0	Message 890512 - Posted: 2 May 2009, 12:23:58 UTC In general I'm against to take medication without being sick. Taking preventive medications such as Tamiflu just for the hell of it is putting yourself at risk, as Mike says, it can make you resistant for it's effect later on, when you really need it. "I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me ID: 890512 ·

Bill Walker Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 3868 Credit: 2,697,267 RAC: 0	Message 890532 - Posted: 2 May 2009, 13:00:00 UTC The local paper had a headline today thay makes sense, and seems to go against the general trend of the media to blow things up: Clue In, Calm Down, and Wash Your Hands ID: 890532 ·

zoom3+1=4 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65821 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49	Message 890611 - Posted: 2 May 2009, 17:38:59 UTC - in response to Message 890490. The antivirals are not really so effective. Better than nothing but symptoms may be alleviated by only a fifth to a quarter. Neither Tamiflu nor Relenza protect against influenza-type viruses at all when taken as a precaution. But if anyone takes it without being infected they got resistant. I do not quite understand Mike's statement about resistance. Against what? The disease or the effectiveness of antivirals? Check out this article before wasting money on preventative measures that have no effect. Come the pandemic, the drugs do work.[/edit] From further research I have been unable to substantiate earlier claims that there is any mask that gives protection against viruses. They would have to be completely airtight breathing systems to be effective at all. There exists no commercial face mask as seen on TV in recent days that can prevent a virus passing straight through it. Anyway, the whole thing has been substantially downgraded according to this: Flu death toll 'less than feared'. [edit]Just found this as well.Preliminary analysis of the swine flu virus suggests it is a fairly mild strain, scientists say. Its simple Peter. If you use Tamiflu while not infected it will not help when you get it later. You are resistant. It only helps if you are infected. Of course even if one's sick with the flu, That doesn't mean one can or will get Tamiflu, As the last time I may have had the flu I wasn't given a prescription for Tamiflu and there was no testing done to see If I really had the flu or not and from what I think is going on, If one gets Medi-Cal(Medicaid outside of California) one does not test for the flu($$$) or give a prescription for Tamiflu(also $$$) and so We're told go home and take some aspirin or some other over the counter type of flu remedy and that comes out of My pocket as Medi-Cal/Medicaid won't pay for over the counter items even If their prescribed by a Doctor(My income is very limited and so $10 or so can be impossible to replace for that month), So much for going to the Doctor if I were to have the flu, As I'd have wasted My time and gas for the car to go and see the Doctor for nothing. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's ID: 890611 ·

Dr. C.E.T.I. Send message Joined: 29 Feb 00 Posts: 16019 Credit: 794,685 RAC: 0	Message 890620 - Posted: 2 May 2009, 18:19:54 UTC H1N1 BOINC Wiki . . . Science Status Page . . . ID: 890620 ·

Robert Waite Send message Joined: 23 Oct 07 Posts: 2417 Credit: 18,192,122 RAC: 59	Message 890638 - Posted: 2 May 2009, 19:13:24 UTC - in response to Message 890402. My dad never liked Me saying this, But... So what? It's not like He stole anything, He's making the money honestly and that's to be admired. Another pandemic hysteria in the media does nothing but increase the fortunes of those who created the scare. I believe these annual pandemic outbursts are manipulated by those with the most to gain financially and I don't find it honest or admirable in any way. ID: 890638 ·

zoom3+1=4 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65821 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49	Message 891018 - Posted: 4 May 2009, 0:39:24 UTC The H1N1 virus has gotten to 900 people now according to CNN. An employee of the Beijing Guomen Road Hotel, where 15 people are under quarantine. http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/05/03/swine.flu/index.html The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's ID: 891018 ·

Bill Walker Send message Joined: 4 Sep 99 Posts: 3868 Credit: 2,697,267 RAC: 0	Message 891020 - Posted: 4 May 2009, 0:42:29 UTC And now, according to CBC radio news, pigs are getting swine flu, from humans that visited Mexico. I almost drove off the road today when the news reading guy, in his very serious CBC voice, said "all the pigs are responding well to medicial treatment". I never, ever thought I would here that on a serious news show. ID: 891020 ·

zoom3+1=4 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65821 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49	Message 891024 - Posted: 4 May 2009, 0:49:20 UTC - in response to Message 891020. Last modified: 4 May 2009, 0:53:04 UTC And now, according to CBC radio news, pigs are getting swine flu, from humans that visited Mexico. I almost drove off the road today when the news reading guy, in his very serious CBC voice, said "all the pigs are responding well to medical treatment". I never, ever thought I would here that on a serious news show. I guess the Swine have the Human Flu, We're lucky the Pigs don't say this: Kill all Humans! Their a Danger to Swine Kind. ;) Some Muslims in Iraq and Egypt have been killing Pigs and Wild Boars, Totally ridiculous, Of course Muslims have a well known prohibition against eating the meat or even touching It. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's ID: 891024 ·

Misfit Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0	Message 891094 - Posted: 4 May 2009, 5:03:21 UTC Flu cases rise; public weighs best response Viruses versus hosts: a battle as old as time me@rescam.org ID: 891094 ·

AndyW Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 Oct 02 Posts: 5862 Credit: 10,957,677 RAC: 18	Message 891126 - Posted: 4 May 2009, 11:47:25 UTC - in response to Message 891018. The H1N1 virus has gotten to 900 people now according to CNN. An employee of the Beijing Guomen Road Hotel, where 15 people are under quarantine. http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/05/03/swine.flu/index.html There's a funny thing about all these pictures of people wearing masks - I haven't seen one person wearing a mask yet, anywhere! ID: 891126 ·

zoom3+1=4 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65821 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49	Message 891169 - Posted: 4 May 2009, 14:04:11 UTC - in response to Message 891126. Last modified: 4 May 2009, 14:05:26 UTC The H1N1 virus has gotten to 900 people now according to CNN. An employee of the Beijing Guomen Road Hotel, where 15 people are under quarantine. http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/05/03/swine.flu/index.html There's a funny thing about all these pictures of people wearing masks - I haven't seen one person wearing a mask yet, anywhere! Yeah I hear You Andy, Me neither, Now If someone would change the thread title to "H1N1 Flu - media hype?" as the title's now wrong. Please? The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's ID: 891169 ·

Misfit Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0	Message 891383 - Posted: 5 May 2009, 0:23:40 UTC 1918 San Diego wasn't immune from 'mother' of all pandemics me@rescam.org ID: 891383 ·

Allie in Vancouver Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 3949 Credit: 1,604,668 RAC: 0	Message 891402 - Posted: 5 May 2009, 0:44:58 UTC - in response to Message 891126. Last modified: 5 May 2009, 0:45:41 UTC The H1N1 virus has gotten to 900 people now according to CNN. An employee of the Beijing Guomen Road Hotel, where 15 people are under quarantine. http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/05/03/swine.flu/index.html There's a funny thing about all these pictures of people wearing masks - I haven't seen one person wearing a mask yet, anywhere! It is a bit of a fetish for some Asian people. In Vancouver, where we have a large Chinese population, people wear masks all the time. Especially elderly folks who haven't become westernized. Pure mathematics is, in its way, the poetry of logical ideas. Albert Einstein ID: 891402 ·

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