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Message 895992 - Posted: 17 May 2009, 17:57:40 UTC - in response to Message 895990.  
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Thank's perryjay I have noticed that my times are similar to other i7's.
Would there be any advantage going to an ssse3 app instead of the sse3?
I have seen that the sse3 seems to be prefered?

Just noticed RAC of 30k thats a first.
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Message 895995 - Posted: 17 May 2009, 18:08:29 UTC - in response to Message 895992.  

Dave, the ssse3 should give you a bit of a performance boost but I can't say exactly how much.


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Message 896000 - Posted: 17 May 2009, 18:16:07 UTC - in response to Message 895995.  

OK thanks I will give it a try can't do any harm I Hope, touch wood.
I can always go back to sse3.
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Message 896011 - Posted: 17 May 2009, 18:28:04 UTC - in response to Message 895995.  

Dave, the ssse3 should give you a bit of a performance boost but I can't say exactly how much.


FYI...

There is no SSSE3 optimised app for Astropulse, only SSE3.
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Message 896025 - Posted: 17 May 2009, 18:38:35 UTC - in response to Message 896011.  
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Just been looking and came to that conclusion.
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Message 896037 - Posted: 17 May 2009, 19:02:21 UTC - in response to Message 896025.  

Sorry, forgot you said it was just doing APs.


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Message 912600 - Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 13:33:59 UTC

This thread is too valueable to be lost in the archives - I see others have been looking for it so....

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Message 912609 - Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 14:08:42 UTC

Very timely. The optimised Windows applications for Astropulse v505 have just been posted at Lunatics. Look for 'rev 168' for the new v505 compatible applications: the download packages also still contain r112 applications so you can help finish off the remnants of the previous run. A full multi-coloured announcement will no doubt follow when we can find Gecko_R7 (he's the only one with a key to the paint-spray closet ;-) ).

From what I've been able to read so far (not been successful in snagging a v505 on the main project yet myself), those running CUDA should put in the same flops value for v505/r168 as they did for v503/r112. I think this is a mistake by the project: the new stock application is considerably faster than the old stock application, so the estimates should have been changed - but for the time being, work with what you've got.
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Message 912655 - Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 16:23:51 UTC - in response to Message 912609.  

Very timely. The optimised Windows applications for Astropulse v505 have just been posted at Lunatics. Look for 'rev 168' for the new v505 compatible applications: the download packages also still contain r112 applications so you can help finish off the remnants of the previous run. A full multi-coloured announcement will no doubt follow when we can find Gecko_R7 (he's the only one with a key to the paint-spray closet ;-) ).

From what I've been able to read so far (not been successful in snagging a v505 on the main project yet myself), those running CUDA should put in the same flops value for v505/r168 as they did for v503/r112. I think this is a mistake by the project: the new stock application is considerably faster than the old stock application, so the estimates should have been changed - but for the time being, work with what you've got.


As there is no SETI@home preference for v505 yet, does download of ap505 WUs rely on having 'If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?' selected or are they reusing the Astropulse option? (when there are some being sent out of course....)

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Message 912657 - Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 16:30:55 UTC - in response to Message 912655.  
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Very timely. The optimised Windows applications for Astropulse v505 have just been posted at Lunatics. Look for 'rev 168' for the new v505 compatible applications: the download packages also still contain r112 applications so you can help finish off the remnants of the previous run. A full multi-coloured announcement will no doubt follow when we can find Gecko_R7 (he's the only one with a key to the paint-spray closet ;-) ).

From what I've been able to read so far (not been successful in snagging a v505 on the main project yet myself), those running CUDA should put in the same flops value for v505/r168 as they did for v503/r112. I think this is a mistake by the project: the new stock application is considerably faster than the old stock application, so the estimates should have been changed - but for the time being, work with what you've got.


As there is no SETI@home preference for v505 yet, does download of ap505 WUs rely on having 'If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?' selected or are they reusing the Astropulse option? (when there are some being sent out of course....)

I think it will be considered v5


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Message 912667 - Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 17:54:50 UTC - in response to Message 912657.  

As there is no SETI@home preference for v505 yet, does download of ap505 WUs rely on having 'If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?' selected or are they reusing the Astropulse option? (when there are some being sent out of course....)

I think it will be considered v5

Not possible. The preference depends on the same ID in the database as what's listed on the Applications page. v5 and v505 are different applications, and since the preference for v505 has not yet been added the 'If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?' will be needed.
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Message 912749 - Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 0:10:04 UTC - in response to Message 912667.  

As there is no SETI@home preference for v505 yet, does download of ap505 WUs rely on having 'If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?' selected or are they reusing the Astropulse option? (when there are some being sent out of course....)

I think it will be considered v5

Not possible. The preference depends on the same ID in the database as what's listed on the Applications page. v5 and v505 are different applications, and since the preference for v505 has not yet been added the 'If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?' will be needed.
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Thanks Joe. I have that option ticked. I had them all ticked but have changed it temporarily to not include MB to see if I could get a 505. Seems like they are splitting a few more tonight although the current tape seems to have a lot of bad data. I'm guessing the network is maxed out again - nothing much moving at all although I did pick up a few 503 resends earlier. I assume they aren't actually creating any new 503s now?

Run only the selected applications
SETI@home Enhanced: no
Astropulse: yes
Astropulse v5: yes
If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications? yes
Use Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) if available yes
Use Central Processing Unit (CPU) yes
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Message 912883 - Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 12:51:56 UTC - in response to Message 912609.  

Will this 505 app be also included in the opti app. installer?
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Message 912893 - Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 14:15:55 UTC - in response to Message 912883.  

Will this 505 app be also included in the opti app. installer?

In due course, but it's not ready yet. Jason reckoned it should take at most a week from now.
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Message 913006 - Posted: 1 Jul 2009, 20:39:47 UTC
Last modified: 1 Jul 2009, 20:40:40 UTC

If tapes are being split as the server status shows,then why is is that even though I have all the boxes ticked to accept any work I am getting the Project has no jobs message.I was sent 1000 Cuda the other day but the schedular is not running them it is doing 2 Aqua cuda tasks that have a deadline of 2 months.
Are the tasks being sent to hosts that are nearer the server because thier pings are shorter?
Been like this for a couple of weeks.
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Message 913029 - Posted: 1 Jul 2009, 21:18:58 UTC - in response to Message 912667.  

As there is no SETI@home preference for v505 yet, does download of ap505 WUs rely on having 'If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?' selected or are they reusing the Astropulse option? (when there are some being sent out of course....)

I think it will be considered v5

Not possible. The preference depends on the same ID in the database as what's listed on the Applications page. v5 and v505 are different applications, and since the preference for v505 has not yet been added the 'If no work for selected applications is available, accept work from other applications?' will be needed.
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Does anyone know when this option to select v505 will be added?
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Message 913168 - Posted: 2 Jul 2009, 3:45:03 UTC

I've borked my app_info file :-(

I downloaded the new AP v5.05 package from Lunatics and pasted their app_info into my existing one. It was a straight paste and i was getting errors on starting the client so I did a little bit of trimming. When I start the client I get the following errors

[error] State file error: bad application name astropulse
[error] State file error: duplicate app version: astropulse_v5 windows_intelx86 503

My app_info is as follows
<app_info>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v5</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.03r112_SSE3.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v5</app_name>
<version_num>503</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.03r112_SSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.05r168_SSE3.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>505</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.05r168_SSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse</app_name>
<version_num>500</version_num>
<flops>6743308755.375</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.00r103_SSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v5</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.03r112_SSE3.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v5</app_name>
<version_num>503</version_num>
<flops>7792267895.1</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.03r112_SSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>cudart.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>cufft.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>603</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<flops>5244795698.625</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>608</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
<flops>2800000000</flops>
<plan_class>cuda</plan_class>
<file_ref>
<file_name>setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>cudart.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>cufft.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<coproc>
<type>CUDA</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
</app_version>
</app_info>

XML is NOT my forte, Can someone please tell me what's wrong ?

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Message 913174 - Posted: 2 Jul 2009, 3:56:04 UTC - in response to Message 913168.  
Last modified: 2 Jul 2009, 3:59:44 UTC

[error] State file error: bad application name astropulse
[error] State file error: duplicate app version: astropulse_v5 windows_intelx86 503

My app_info is as follows
<app_info>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v5</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.03r112_SSE3.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v5</app_name>
<version_num>503</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.03r112_SSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.05r168_SSE3.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>505</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.05r168_SSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse</app_name>
<version_num>500</version_num>
<flops>6743308755.375</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.00r103_SSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v5</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.03r112_SSE3.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v5</app_name>
<version_num>503</version_num>
<flops>7792267895.1</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.03r112_SSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>cudart.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>cufft.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>603</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<flops>5244795698.625</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>608</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
<flops>2800000000</flops>
<plan_class>cuda</plan_class>
<file_ref>
<file_name>setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>cudart.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>cufft.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<coproc>
<type>CUDA</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
</app_version>
</app_info>


You have two AstroPulse v5 sections: one at the beginning and one after v505. Remove the section in red and it should work.
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Message 913186 - Posted: 2 Jul 2009, 4:33:32 UTC
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Good morning peoples.

5.20 am in the UK here, posting a question quickly before I go to work in the hope it'll be answered before I get home.

I'm currently running 2 systems. A Ph. II 955 with Boinc 6.6.36 and Raistmer's v9 opp apps, and a Ph. 9850 with the lunatics unified installer, again with Boinc 6.6.36. Both machines run cuda too, the 955 with a 9800GTX+, the 9850 with an 8600 GTS.

The 9850, in asking for work yesterday failed on downloading a v505 astropulse saying that it didn't have the correct info in app_info, whereas the 955 doesn't even ask for such work. I am currently running down the work on the 955 so that I can change over to the unified installer on this machine too. It's much easier than doing it manually. I had success setting up Raistmer's opp app on one machine, on the other I couldn't get it to work, so went with the unified installer. Go figure...

Has the v505 been optimized yet, and if it has, how can I add the information to my app_info to start doing the new work units? I'm happy to add it to both machines but I don't want to add it, then change it in a couple of weeks when an optimized app comes out if it's not been done yet.

Any info or help will be greatly appreciated.

[edit] I've seen the app_info in Ozz's previous post, would a cut and paste with the correct section be sufficient? [/edit]

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Message 913190 - Posted: 2 Jul 2009, 4:58:35 UTC - in response to Message 913174.  

[error] State file error: bad application name astropulse
[error] State file error: duplicate app version: astropulse_v5 windows_intelx86 503

My app_info is as follows
<app_info>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v5</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.03r112_SSE3.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v5</app_name>
<version_num>503</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.03r112_SSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>astropulse_v505</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.05r168_SSE3.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v505</app_name>
<version_num>505</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.05r168_SSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse</app_name>
<version_num>500</version_num>
<flops>6743308755.375</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.00r103_SSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

<app>
<name>astropulse_v5</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>ap_5.03r112_SSE3.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astropulse_v5</app_name>
<version_num>503</version_num>
<flops>7792267895.1</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>ap_5.03r112_SSE3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

<app>
<name>setiathome_enhanced</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>cudart.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>cufft.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>603</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<flops>5244795698.625</flops>
<file_ref>
<file_name>AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_version>
<app_name>setiathome_enhanced</app_name>
<version_num>608</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>0.05</max_ncpus>
<flops>2800000000</flops>
<plan_class>cuda</plan_class>
<file_ref>
<file_name>setiathome_6.08_windows_intelx86__cuda.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>cudart.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>cufft.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>libfftw3f-3-1-1a_upx.dll</file_name>
</file_ref>
<coproc>
<type>CUDA</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
</app_version>
</app_info>


You have two AstroPulse v5 sections: one at the beginning and one after v505. Remove the section in red and it should work.

Also remove the purple part, that's the other error.
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