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Message 655978 - Posted: 7 Oct 2007, 21:48:41 UTC - in response to Message 655630.  

Would you still upgrade to a Q6600 PC just to (or largely because) crunch workunits much more rapidly on SETI@Home?


I did. I had (still have) a PIV 2.4, and I needed something newer, so I got a Q6600. If BOINC hadn't been part of my life, I would have only gotten a dual core PC. It's my main computer; I do everything on it, but I didn't need a quad core, except for SETI and BOINC. I still maintain the old PIV which does only crunching now, as well as a PIV 3.4 that I bought to only crunch.



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Message 656002 - Posted: 7 Oct 2007, 22:21:32 UTC

I upgraded from a Core2Duo E6600 to a Q6600 just mainly for S@H, but that resulted in me changing from E6600, P5B Deluxe, Corsair DC Memory -> Q6600, P5K Deluxe and OCZ 1150 Mhz memory..

And yes i OC the quaddie too :)

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Message 656014 - Posted: 7 Oct 2007, 22:36:30 UTC - in response to Message 655978.  

I had (still have) a PIV 2.4, and I needed something newer, so I got a Q6600. If BOINC hadn't been part of my life, I would have only gotten a dual core PC. It's my main computer; I do everything on it, but I didn't need a quad core, except for SETI and BOINC.
This is almost exactly my story, too, except that my Pentium 4 was a Gallatin running at 3.2 GHz, and that I had to rebuild the system when the boot drive failed. Since I was going to have to reinstall all aps anyway, I decided to enjoy a Q6600 on a modern motherboard with adequate RAM. As nothing I do is usefully multithreaded, I'd have just taken an E6600 were it not for BOINC.

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Message 656828 - Posted: 9 Oct 2007, 19:46:24 UTC

Does anybody have the power consumption for one of these Q6600 under full load.
You know.... how many watts it pulls.

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Message 656832 - Posted: 9 Oct 2007, 20:16:03 UTC - in response to Message 656828.  

Does anybody have the power consumption for one of these Q6600 under full load.
You know.... how many watts it pulls.

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My Killawatt says my Q6600 pulls 135 W at full load on a P35 board with a 610 W power supply. That is with a modest overclock.
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Message 656838 - Posted: 9 Oct 2007, 20:29:32 UTC

I would upgrade to a QX9650 next months for SETI, if the ackers were in my wallet!
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Message 656871 - Posted: 9 Oct 2007, 21:17:12 UTC - in response to Message 656832.  

Does anybody have the power consumption for one of these Q6600 under full load.
You know.... how many watts it pulls.

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My Killawatt says my Q6600 pulls 135 W at full load on a P35 board with a 610 W power supply. That is with a modest overclock.



you mean with 4 seti w/u or any 4 w/u it pulls 135 watts. Thats very good. My p4 pulls 140 on full load with HT on. I put a watt meter on most of my machines and they vary from 100 to 150 watts. Might be time to upgrade to one of these quad cores.

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Message 656873 - Posted: 9 Oct 2007, 21:20:37 UTC

i got a amd 64 x2 4800+ toldeo with a complete system august of 06 and i just got a new mobo and ram last week now just waiting to buy the cpu core 2 quad just for seti so yes i upgraded just for seti
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Message 656991 - Posted: 10 Oct 2007, 0:07:44 UTC - in response to Message 656828.  

Does anybody have the power consumption for one of these Q6600 under full load.
You know.... how many watts it pulls.

Not clear what you want:
Total System power?
Or just the power related to computation (not just the Q6600, but the extra activity-related power in chipset, RAM, and the power supply inefficiency overhead).

More important, do you want to know on a stock system (running default clock and CPU voltage), moderately overclocked?, severely overclocked? undervolted for low power?

My system is multi-use, it is my main personal system, doing web-browsing and document composition. It is also the host of a pretty heavy-duty audio hobby, and a medium duty photography hobby.

As such it has more peripherals than would a cost-oriented crunching box (three big hard drives, two optical drives, a modest graphics card, a good sound card, floppy drive, Firewire/USB addon card, big fans running slow using wasteful series controllers...). Also as such, my overclock is conservative (3.006 GHz, 1.35V commanded on CPU, +0.2 on RAM, +0.1 on MCH).

For this system, run that way, my idle power is about 146 watts, and my 4-core BOINC power is about 220 watts. (monitor not included).

You could bring in a bare-bones system running stock clock undervolted far below that (half anyway, maybe less), and you could certainly burn far more with an inefficient cooling system, high overclock, and high voltage, with a gamer graphics card (at least double, maybe much more).
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Message 657010 - Posted: 10 Oct 2007, 0:49:29 UTC

In answer to the original question, Yes. I have 10 computers running Bonic. 3 computers that are actually used for something other than Bonic. The other 7 do nothing more than cruch. All are now Core2 duo's or quads. I added the quads only because of Seti. The Duo's are plenty fast for anything that I do otherwise.
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Message 657022 - Posted: 10 Oct 2007, 1:01:37 UTC - in response to Message 656991.  

Does anybody have the power consumption for one of these Q6600 under full load.
You know.... how many watts it pulls.

Not clear what you want:


Fair point.... I quess what I was asking is: How much power does a barebones q6600 system use when just doing seti or other projects. I have had 30 or so computers for crunching over the years and they are/were all non-overclocked barebones systems. I used to measure the power comsumption at the point of connection to the wall. I know the type of power supply/video card/others will change the power usage a bit, but I was interested in a ball park figure.
220 watts is more what I expected. I have retired 25 of my machines due to the cost of electricity (1400 quid UK pounds) in a year.
So I have become interested in power consumption. Maybe only 1 or 2 machines...
A Q6600 at 220 watts while doing 4 w/u is tempting.

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Message 657029 - Posted: 10 Oct 2007, 1:08:08 UTC - in response to Message 657022.  
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So I have become interested in power consumption. Maybe only 1 or 2 machines...
A Q6600 at 220 watts while doing 4 w/u is tempting.

Nairb


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu//forum_thread.php?id=42774&nowrap=true#655017


My Q6600 on a p965 mobo, 2gb, 8800gts, 4hdd draws ~230W with 4 cores@100% (BOINC - mainly SETI); 300W with the 8800gts maxed out as well (rthdribl). With everything idle, around 150W.
(the q6600 is at 3.0ghz).

Swapping boinc for Prime95 to load the CPU, and running TAT as well (TAT will only load 2 cores, I heard the 4-core version was cancelled as it lead to temps >100oC on the stock cooler!) draws ~285W, while running rthdribl as well adds another 60W, to 345W. The GPU may have been drawing less this time because it was CPU-limited (ie, rthdribl couldn't get the CPU time it needed from TAT/p95 to be able to run to its maximum).

That's all running on a Corsair hx520, so I've still another 150W+ to play with...


Not exactly barebones, but the 8800gts must be around 100W at load (it requires more than the 75W on the PCIe, it has the extra connector), and from what I've seen elsewhere it idles at 40W (crazy, it's just a windows desktop...)
Minus maybe 40W for the drives, and integrated/lower-power vga, and maybe 1gb and you'd be close to 100W lower.
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Message 657116 - Posted: 10 Oct 2007, 2:45:57 UTC - in response to Message 656871.  




you mean with 4 seti w/u or any 4 w/u it pulls 135 watts. Thats very good. My p4 pulls 140 on full load with HT on. I put a watt meter on most of my machines and they vary from 100 to 150 watts. Might be time to upgrade to one of these quad cores.

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Ok, I just looked at it. 144W under full load at 3.0 GHz. I looked at my notes and 135W was before overclocking. Sorry.

My notes also show my E6700 read 150 W loaded. Not overclocking that, so I think the Q6600 is marvelous for power consumption.
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Message 657317 - Posted: 10 Oct 2007, 14:24:03 UTC

I was going to upgrade a couple machines and build a new quad just for seti...Then they cut my RAC and showed they didn't care. No upgrades or new computer.
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Message 657325 - Posted: 10 Oct 2007, 14:51:55 UTC

I've learned that so far the Abit AW9D-MAX can use a Q6600 B3 stepping cpu, Just not a Q6600 G0 stepping cpu as the new stepping causes BSODs in Windows in the latest Bios(15) and the Abit AW9D-MAX motherboard is possibly getting no new updates as the last Bios update was back in May 2007, Although I hope I'm wrong as I have two of these fine motherboards.
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Message 659244 - Posted: 13 Oct 2007, 20:10:34 UTC

right at this moment i am pondering whether to get a E2180 or
a DVD recorder for the home entertainment system....
i think the dvd recorder is winning..so far

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Message 659454 - Posted: 14 Oct 2007, 3:18:03 UTC - in response to Message 659244.  

right at this moment i am pondering whether to get a E2180 or
a DVD recorder for the home entertainment system....
i think the dvd recorder is winning..so far

Final score: DVD recorder 1, E2180 0.

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Message 659565 - Posted: 14 Oct 2007, 12:58:18 UTC - in response to Message 659454.  

right at this moment i am pondering whether to get a E2180 or
a DVD recorder for the home entertainment system....
i think the dvd recorder is winning..so far

Final score: DVD recorder 1, E2180 0.

Get the E2180, a big HDD, and a TV card- Get both!

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Message 659797 - Posted: 14 Oct 2007, 19:26:44 UTC - in response to Message 659565.  
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right at this moment i am pondering whether to get a E2180 or
a DVD recorder for the home entertainment system....
i think the dvd recorder is winning..so far

Final score: DVD recorder 1, E2180 0.

Get the E2180, a big HDD, and a TV card- Get both!


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If you want to do a home entertainment system, nothing is more parrallel than this, 2 recordings, one play back will max out a Dual core. a chip Quad core is better, and power wise, it can be quiet.


Most PVR use at least 2 tuners, so, your PC should use a Dual Tuner card too, they are around 100$, and let you see a show and record an other one. I use snapstream, if you are based in USA, this is awesome, and support 8 cards if you are nuts :)

a 2.1Ghz quad core is not very expensive, and handle very well snapstream. No need of crazy video card here!
Windows XP + Snapstream rocks!

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