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Message 579182 - Posted: 31 May 2007, 14:13:59 UTC

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Message 579188 - Posted: 31 May 2007, 14:28:12 UTC - in response to Message 579181.  
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a video warning to President Bush of new and worse attacks on America

Gosh... Is it election time again?

Those darn 'terrorists' always seem to show up at the most convenient of times... ;)
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Message 579443 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 0:51:22 UTC
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Peace, Love, and Happiness...Mid-East style.

Not really kid friendly...!
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Message 579465 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 1:30:06 UTC

Man labeled a top spammer in the world is arrested

By Gene Johnson
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May 31, 2007

SEATTLE – A 27-year-old man described as one of the world's top spammers was arrested yesterday, a development federal authorities said could lead to an immediate, perceptible decrease in the amount of junk e-mail that invades the Internet.

“He's one of the top 10 spammers in the world,” said Tim Cranton, a Microsoft Corp. lawyer and senior director of the company's Worldwide Internet Safety Programs. “He's a huge problem for our customers. This is a very good day.”

Robert Alan Soloway's arrest came a week after a federal grand jury returned a 35-count indictment charging him with mail, wire and e-mail fraud, aggravated identity theft and money laundering.

He's accused of using networks of compromised computers to send out millions upon millions of junk e-mails since 2003. He continued his activities after Microsoft won a $7 million civil judgment against him in 2005. Also, Robert Brauer, the operator of a small Internet service provider in western Oklahoma, won a $10 million judgment against Soloway, prosecutors said.

U.S. Attorney Jeff Sullivan said yesterday the case is the first in the country in which federal prosecutors have used identity theft statutes to prosecute a spammer for taking over someone else's Internet domain name. He said that would mean at least an extra two years on Soloway's sentence if he's convicted. He could face decades in prison, although prosecutors said they haven't calculated a sentencing range he might face.

In court yesterday afternoon, Soloway pleaded not guilty to the charges after a judge determined that – even with four bank accounts seized by the government – he was sufficiently well off to pay for his lawyer. He has been living at the ritzy Harbor Steps apartments near Pike Place Market and drives an expensive Mercedes convertible, said Assistant U.S. Attorney Kathryn Warma. Prosecutors are seeking to have him forfeit $773,000 they say he made from his business, Newport Internet Marketing Corp.

A public defender who represented him only for yesterday declined to comment.

The investigation began when the Federal Trade Commission, Better Business Bureau and Washington state attorney general's office began receiving hundreds of complaints about Soloway.

The Santa Barbara County Department of Social Services said it was spending $1,000 a week to fight the spam it was receiving, and other businesses and individuals complained their reputations were damaged when it appeared spam was originating from their computers.

“This is not just a nuisance. This is way beyond a nuisance,” Warma said.

Soloway used networks of computers called “botnets” to send out unsolicited bulk e-mails urging people to use his Internet marketing company to advertise products. People who clicked on a link in the e-mail were directed to his Web site, where he advertised services, including sending out as many as 20 million e-mail advertisements in 15 days for $495, the indictment said.
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Message 579470 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 1:32:13 UTC
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Woman on oxygen dies after power cut

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WELLINGTON, New Zealand – A woman who needed an electric oxygen pump to breathe died after an energy company cut the power to her home because of a $122 unpaid bill, her family said yesterday.

Police said they had launched an investigation into Folole Muliaga's death, which happened within two hours of state-owned Mercury Energy's cutting power to her house Tuesday.

Mercury Energy's general manager, James Moulder, said the company was devastated by the 44-year-old woman's death and was conducting its own investigation to determine what happened.

Muliaga, a schoolteacher with four children between ages 5 and 20, had been off work since February with an illness and had fallen behind in her payments to Mercury, said Brenden Sheehan, a relative who provided a copy of the bill.

Six days before a company representative arrived Tuesday at the house to disconnect the electricity, Muliaga was $122 in arrears.

Sheehan said Muliaga and her son told the technician that she was dependent on the oxygen machine to stay alive and invited him into the house to see it. “Then he cut the power off,” Sheehan said.

Muliaga began having difficulty breathing, became faint and then collapsed, Sheehan said. Paramedics were unable to revive her.
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Message 579732 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 12:45:06 UTC
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Sci-fi writers join war on terror


Clockwise from top left, Jerry Pournelle, Arlan Andrews, Greg Bear, Larry Niven and Sage Walker are science ficion writers that attended a Homeland Security conference. They are part of a group Andrews put together called Sigma with the motto "Science Fiction in the National Interest."


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Message 579782 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 16:03:43 UTC - in response to Message 579117.  

New Al Qaeda Attacks Ultimatum Issued by Adam Gadahn.
American renegade Adam Gadahn , now a senior Al Queda operative believed to be in Pakistan, released a video warning to President Bush of new and worse attacks on America than 9/11 unless an ultimatum is met. The terms include withdrawal from all muslim lands and the release of all prisoners.
Question: If such an attack should occur, would that not sweep the Republicans back into power? And if that is likely, why would Al Qaeda favor the Republicans over the Democrats?

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Message 579800 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 16:36:13 UTC - in response to Message 579782.  
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why would Al Qaeda favor the Republicans over the Democrats?

Because they keep each other in power ??? ;)
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Message 579911 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 21:42:49 UTC - in response to Message 579800.  
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why would Al Qaeda favor the Republicans over the Democrats?

Because they keep each other in power ??? ;)

My take on it is a little different.

I think the terrorists really want to destroy America completely, to cause it devastating economic ruin. If the Democrats take power, they will pull out of Iraq and probably Afghanistan too. Then although it's a geo-political setback it's not total financial collapse. I think that the terrorists' primary targets are economic. Al Qaeda wants America flat bust broke. These agressive Bush neocons (so unlike in their approach to the traditional Republican Party's foreign policy) are the best bet to drive America in over its head in debt.

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My take on it is a little different.

While they are clearly ignoring their holy book when it comes to suicide and taking the life of innocents who are not enemy combatants, They are also clearly following their holy book when it comes to their ultimate goal, which is to fight and eliminate oppression and injustice... Hence their targets are clearly the rich and the governments and not innocent women and children or even men of other religions as our warmongers upstairs would like us to believe... Also following their holy book, they are going to continue to fight us as long as we are in their neck of the woods... This is a no-brainer... What will happen when we leave? I dunno, but if they do retaliate, consider this, we retaliated for far far far less than the damage that we have done to them, before and after 911...

For the record, I still don't believe that 911 was carried out by Muslims, never did and never will...

I do believe that they ended up being the 'fall guys', and are being venomously provoked on a daily basis to keep the war drums beating... ;)
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Message 579922 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 22:15:07 UTC - in response to Message 579920.  
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My take on it is a little different.

While they are clearly ignoring their holy book when it comes to suicide and taking the life of innocents who are not enemy combatants, They are also clearly following their holy book when it comes to their ultimate goal, which is to fight and eliminate oppression and injustice... Hence their targets are clearly the rich and the governments and not innocent women and children or even men of other religions as our warmongers upstairs would like us to believe... Also following their holy book, they are going to continue to fight us as long as we are in their neck of the woods... This is a no-brainer... What will happen when we leave? I dunno, but if they do retaliate, consider this, we retaliated for far far far less than the damage that we have done to them, before and after 911...

For the record, I still don't believe that 911 was carried out by Muslims, never did and never will...

I do believe that they ended up being the 'fall guys', and are being venomously provoked on a daily basis to keep the war drums beating... ;)


Then who were piloting the planes...I, Robot?
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Message 579925 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 22:23:47 UTC - in response to Message 579922.  

Then who were piloting the planes...?

Were you on the planes?

Its easy to point fingers when all the evidence has been incinerated... ;)
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Message 579936 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 22:48:18 UTC - in response to Message 579925.  
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Then who were piloting the planes...?

Were you on the planes?

Its easy to point fingers when all the evidence has been incinerated... ;)

I think you're wrong, Jeffrey. Who benefits?

If you think that the "warmongers" killed so many of their own fellow citizens just in order to further their ambitions, I think that you are just plain wrong. It's a matter of judgment. I just don't conclude that it happened that way.

It's a question of motive. The people that killed so many Americans were not the American government, but the enemies of that government.

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Message 579942 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 22:58:28 UTC
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Flight 93...
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Message 579966 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 23:18:52 UTC - in response to Message 579936.  

I think you're wrong, Jeffrey. Who benefits?

I can think of lots who have benefited... But unlike some, without concrete evidence, I shall not point fingers... I'm also not going to get into a debate of 'who dun-it', because we will never know... I was simply trying to shed some light on your perspective, both motives and consequences, based on their religion... After all, isn't that why they are doing what they are doing? That is, if that's your take on things... I do find it a little odd that nobody seems to want to understand their religion in an honest and open environment without the interjecting of hateful venom, especially those who believe it to be the cause... Which to me, is an indicator of either stupidity, or someone trying to hide something... ;)
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Message 579970 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 23:32:49 UTC - in response to Message 579942.  
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Flight 93...

Once again... Were you on the plane? Were you at the crash scene?

The fact is, you don't know anything other that what you've been fed... No pun intended... ;)
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Message 579972 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 23:37:28 UTC - in response to Message 579970.  
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Flight 93...

Once again... Were you on the plane? Were you at the crash scene?

The fact is, you don't know anything other that what you've been fed... No pun intended... ;)

There is something acceptable to common sense called an inference from "circumstantial evidence", Jeffrey. If when I go to sleep there's no snow on the ground and when I wake up the next morning, there's snow covering everything, it's reasonable to conclude that it snowed last night...even if I didn't witness it directly.

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Message 579975 - Posted: 1 Jun 2007, 23:38:28 UTC - in response to Message 579972.  

There is something acceptable to common sense called an inference from "circumstantial evidence", Jeffrey. If when I go to sleep there's no snow on the ground and when I wake up the next morning, there's snow covering everything, it's reasonable to conclude that it snowed last night...even if we didn't witness it directly.

Beets. It's a COMPLETE waste of time. Really.

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Message 579988 - Posted: 2 Jun 2007, 0:06:26 UTC

Yes, its about time for a subject change...

For an alternate subject to discuss, I offer the following for your consideration.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/31/ap/politics/main2872899.shtml


Rice: Russian Attitudes Locked In Past
Rice Says Russia Should Drop Cold War Mentality, Puzzled By Dispute Over Missiles

POTSDAM, Germany, May. 31, 2007
(AP) Russian attitudes are locked in the past, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Thursday, adding that the United States is perplexed by the current fracas with Russia over a planned U.S. missile system in Europe.

"We want a 21st Century partnership with Russia, but at times, Russia seems to think and act in the zero-sum terms of another era," Rice said, referring to the suspicions and territorial ambitions of the Cold War.

The top U.S. diplomat spoke as U.S. relations with its old Cold War foe have hit a modern low. The United States is at odds with Moscow over matters inside and outside Russia's borders. The missile dispute pushed the simmering problems and resentments into a hot zone this spring, with Russian President Vladimir Putin seeming to liken President Bush's foreign policy to that of Germany's Third Reich and generals and diplomats talking darkly of a new Cold War.

Rice had a brittle exchange with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov over the missile plan on Wednesday, but sought Thursday to put the dispute in a more academic, historical context.

The West wants a strong Russia, but strong by modern democratic measures, Rice said in an address accepting an award for promoting better U.S.-German relations. The award, and the setting in the city where Josef Stalin met Harry Truman in 1945, evoked both the Cold War and the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Rice's remarks referred to a laundry list of U.S. complaints about post-Soviet Russia, including democratic retrenchment under Putin.

"Democratic institutions and an open society are not a source of weakness," Rice said. "Nor is freedom of speech and freedom of the press just a nuisance."

She said the United States will respect Russia and air differences honorably.

"In this regard we find Russia's recent missile diplomacy difficult to understand," Rice said.

Putin said Thursday that tests of new Russian missiles were a response to the planned deployment of U.S. missile defense installations and other forces in Europe.

In a clear reference to the United States, he harshly criticized "imperialism" in global affairs and warned that Russia will strengthen its military potential to maintain a global strategic balance.

"It wasn't us who initiated a new round of arms race," Putin said when asked about Russia's missile tests at a news conference after talks in the Kremlin with Greek President Karolos Papoulias.

Putin and other Russian officials have repeatedly rejected U.S. assurances that the planned missile defense installations in Poland and the Czech Republic are meant to counter a potential threat from nations such as Iran and pose no danger to Russia.

Putin described Tuesday's tests of a new ballistic missile capable of carrying multiple nuclear warheads and a new cruise missile as part of the Russian response to the planned deployment of new U.S. military bases and missile defense sites in ex-Soviet satellites in Central and Eastern Europe.

Earlier Thursday, Rice held the hard U.S. line against concessions to Iran over its nuclear program and renewed a conditional offer to talk to the clerical regime on any subject.

Asked if it is time to change tactics in the world's nuclear standoff with Iran, Rice ruled out the idea of dropping a key precondition.

"I think it's time for Iran to change its tactics," Rice said.

Iran also refused to budge as talks began Thursday between Iran's chief international negotiator and the European Union's senior foreign policy official.

There is increasing sentiment in Europe that world powers trying to engage Iran should drop the demand that Iran halt, or suspend in diplomatic parlance, disputed nuclear activities before bargaining on a package of incentives could begin.

"The international community is united on what Iran should do, which is to suspend; to demonstrate that it is in fact not seeking a nuclear weapon under cover of civilian nuclear power," Rice said.

She spoke during a press conference with Austria's foreign minister, a year to the day after she made a dramatic outreach to longtime adversary Iran. The offer to talk "anytime, any place," was intended to inject new life into an ebbing European diplomatic effort to turn back Iran's advancing nuclear program.

"I think the question isn't why won't we talk to Tehran," she said. "The question is why doesn't Tehran want to talk to us."


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