Climate Change: Britain Under Threat, Sunday 21 Jan 8PM BBC1

If you have crunched the BBC CCE Climate Change Experiment you may like to see this TV program, probably the culmination of the BBCs investment in CPDN.
The crunching hasn't stopped, but the move over to the CPDN (climateprediction.net] has already started.

There will also be some data from the finished runs and other info on the BBC Climate Change Website

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Don't forget to record this if you're not in at 8pm. Myles Allen of the Oxford ClimatePrediction research team is interviewed in today's Sunday Times

"Attenborough presents three snapshots, from 2020, 2050 and 2080. One key point is the increased likelihood of heatwaves. The murderously hot summer of 2003 is 25 times more likely to recur by 2020.

It will be regarded as a normal summer by 2050 — and might even seem cool by 2080.

Another area of impact is changes in rainfall: water shortages in summer and floods in winter. Some floods will be caused by lots of rain over a long period, as happened in Glasgow in 2002. Others will be caused by short but heavy downpours, as affected Boscastle in 2004."

Climate Change: Britain Under Threat, Sunday 21 Jan 8PM BBC1

If you have crunched the BBC CCE Climate Change Experiment you may like to see this TV program, probably the culmination of the BBCs investment in CPDN.
The crunching hasn't stopped, but the move over to the CPDN (climateprediction.net] has already started.

There will also be some data from the finished runs and other info on the BBC Climate Change Website

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Hope some kind person who records this TV documentation will release it at eDonkey network so that the volunteers from outside of UK can watch it too ;-) David Attenborough's documentations and a lot more of this stuff from BBC are normally excellent

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OOooh! It's starting!

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Hope some kind person who records this TV documentation will release it at eDonkey network so that the volunteers from outside of UK can watch it too ;-) David Attenborough's documentations and a lot more of this stuff from BBC are normally excellent

That would be nice...I'd like to watch the program.

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I'm sure someone will stick it on YouTube or GoogleVideo soon enough, even if not you should be able to see some BBC Videos here:
Climate Change Experimental Results - The Impact On The UK

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Sometimes I think we are alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we are not. In either case the idea is quite staggering.

I thought it was very disappointing. Said nothing new and rehashed what we already know. Infuriatingly the BBC again tries to claim credit for "it's unique experiment".

On the other hand, at least many in the UK who haven't got a clue as to what is going on, now have no excuse.

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I thought it was very disappointing. Said nothing new and rehashed what we already know. Infuriatingly the BBC again tries to claim credit for "it's unique experiment".

On the other hand, at least many in the UK who haven't got a clue as to what is going on, now have no excuse.

I actually agree with you there Ice. There was nothing in the program we haven't discussed here in much more detail. It seemed to be more about how and where the UK would be flooded.

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I thought it was very disappointing. Said nothing new and rehashed what we already know. Infuriatingly the BBC again tries to claim credit for "it's unique experiment".

On the other hand, at least many in the UK who haven't got a clue as to what is going on, now have no excuse.

I actually agree with you there Ice. There was nothing in the program we haven't discussed here in much more detail. It seemed to be more about how and where the UK would be flooded.

Interesting, but, as already said, nothing really new.

At least the really wild scare stories of 30 metre rises in sea levels were not predicted!

Now it is up to people to start realising and changing their living expectations and habits!

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It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues

Now it is up to people to start realising and changing their living expectations and habits!

Shouldn't all of you start shutting down BOINC and reading quietly instead of burning energy to run your computer?

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

Now it is up to people to start realising and changing their living expectations and habits!

Shouldn't all of you start shutting down BOINC and reading quietly instead of burning energy to run your computer?

You first:

Ranking of the world's countries by 2003 total CO2 emissions
from fossil-fuel burning, cement production, and gas flaring.
Emissions (CO2_TOT) are expressed in thousand metric tons of
carbon (not CO2).

Source: Gregg Marland, Tom Boden, and Bob Andres
Oak Ridge National Laboratory

RANK NATION CO2_TOT

1 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1580175
2 CHINA (MAINLAND) 1131175
3 RUSSIAN FEDERATION 407593
4 INDIA 347577
5 JAPAN 336142
6 GERMANY 219776
7 CANADA 154392
8 UNITED KINGDOM 152460
9 REPUBLIC OF KOREA 124455
10 ITALY (INCLUDING SAN MARINO) 121608
11 MEXICO 113542
12 ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN 104112
13 FRANCE (INCLUDING MONACO) 102065
14 SOUTH AFRICA 99415
15 AUSTRALIA 96657
16 UKRAINE 85836
17 SPAIN 84401
18 POLAND 83121
19 SAUDI ARABIA 82530
20 BRAZIL 81445
21 INDONESIA 80544
22 THAILAND 67131
23 TAIWAN 62720
24 TURKEY 60057
25 ALGERIA 44672
26 KAZAKHSTAN 43459
27 MALAYSIA 42692
28 VENEZUELA 39299
29 NETHERLANDS 38464
30 EGYPT 38118
31 UNITED ARAB EMIRATES 36862
32 ARGENTINA 34803
33 UZBEKISTAN 33744
34 CZECH REPUBLIC 31760
35 PAKISTAN 31160
36 BELGIUM 28070
37 GREECE 26268
38 ROMANIA 24875
39 KUWAIT 21417
40 DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE S REPUBLIC OF KOREA 21145
41 PHILIPPINES 21007
42 VIET NAM 20774
43 IRAQ 19893
44 AUSTRIA 19192
45 ISRAEL 18645
46 FINLAND 18519
47 BELARUS 17073
48 CHILE 15965
49 HUNGARY 15896
50 PORTUGAL 15711
51 COLOMBIA 15158
52 DENMARK 14873
53 SWEDEN 14378
54 NIGERIA 14244
55 LIBYAN ARAB JAMAHIRIYAH 13699
56 FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF YUGOSLAVIA 13630
57 SYRIAN ARAB REPUBLIC 13361
58 SINGAPORE 13048
59 QATAR 12605
60 NORWAY 12289
61 BULGARIA 12001
62 TURKMENISTAN 11829
63 IRELAND 11291
64 SWITZERLAND 11027
65 MOROCCO 10346
66 HONG KONG 10317
67 SLOVAKIA 10250
68 NEW ZEALAND 9487
69 BANGLADESH 9452
70 OMAN 8804
71 AZERBAIJAN 7963
72 TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO 7820
73 PERU 7138
74 CUBA 6892
75 CROATIA 6496
76 ECUADOR 6334
77 BAHRAIN 5971
78 DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 5817
79 TUNISIA 5697
80 BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINIA 5221
81 LEBANON 5177
82 ESTONIA 4976
83 JORDAN 4664
84 YEMEN 4655
85 SLOVENIA 4205
86 U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS 3692
87 LITHUANIA 3459
88 ZIMBABWE 3130
89 JAMAICA 2926
90 GUATEMALA 2918
91 MACEDONIA 2873
92 SRI LANKA 2812
93 LUXEMBOURG 2710
94 MYANMAR 2580
95 SUDAN 2454
96 KENYA 2395
97 ANGOLA 2352
98 MONGOLIA 2176
99 BOLIVIA 2155
100 GHANA 2110
101 ETHIOPIA 2002
102 CYPRUS 1987
103 REPUBLIC OF MOLDOVA 1973
104 LATVIA 1833
105 EL SALVADOR 1785
106 HONDURAS 1773
107 COSTA RICA 1728
108 PANAMA 1644
109 COTE D IVOIRE 1560
110 KYRGYZSTAN 1452
111 SENEGAL 1320
112 TAJIKISTAN 1270
113 BRUNEI (DARUSSALAM) 1242
114 URUGUAY 1193
115 PARAGUAY 1129
116 BOTSWANA 1123
117 GUAM 1114
118 NETHERLAND ANTILLES 1106
119 NICARAGUA 1067
120 UNITED REPUBLIC OF TANZANIA 1038
121 GEORGIA 1017
122 REPUBLIC OF CAMEROON 965
123 ARMENIA 935
124 MAURITIUS 858
125 ALBANIA 830
126 NEPAL 805
127 PAPUA NEW GUINEA 685
128 MAURITANIA 682
129 REUNION 675
130 MALTA 672
131 MADAGASCAR 639
132 NAMIBIA 635
133 SURINAME 611
134 TOGO 599
135 ZAMBIA 599
136 ICELAND 597
137 ARUBA 588
138 PUERTO RICO 573
139 BENIN 557
140 BAHAMAS 510
141 NEW CALEDONIA 510
142 MACAU 509
143 ZAIRE 488
144 HAITI 474
145 GUADELOUPE 467
146 UGANDA 467
147 GUYANA 445
148 MOZAMBIQUE 428
149 CONGO 376
150 MARTINIQUE 366
151 GUINEA 365
152 LAO PEOPLE S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC 342
153 GABON 334
154 NIGER 329
155 BARBADOS 325
156 FIJI 305
157 BURKINA FASO 284
158 FRENCH GUIANA 274
159 SWAZILAND 261
160 MALAWI 241
161 BELIZE 213
162 AFGHANISTAN 192
163 ERITREA 191
164 FRENCH POLYNESIA 189
165 FAEROE ISLANDS 180
166 SIERRA LEONE 178
167 RWANDA 164
168 GREENLAND 155
169 MALI 151
170 SEYCHELLES 149
171 CAMBODIA 146
172 BERMUDA 136
173 LIBERIA 126
174 MALDIVES 121
175 ANTIGUA & BARBUDA 109
176 BHUTAN 105
177 DJIBOUTI 100
178 GIBRALTAR 99
179 SAINT LUCIA 89
180 CAYMAN ISLANDS 83
181 AMERICAN SAMOA 80
182 GAMBIA 77
183 GUINEA BISSAU 74
184 CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC 69
185 PALAU 66
186 WESTERN SAHARA 65
187 BURUNDI 64
188 GRENADA 60
189 ST. VINCENT & THE GRENADINES 53
190 SOLOMON ISLANDS 49
191 EQUATORIAL GUINEA 45
192 EAST TIMOR 44
193 SAMOA 41
194 CAPE VERDE 39
195 NAURU 39
196 DOMINICA 38
197 ST. KITTS-NEVIS 34
198 CHAD 32
199 TONGA 31
200 SAO TOME & PRINCIPE 25
201 COMOROS 24
202 VANUATU 24
203 BRITISH VIRGIN ISLANDS 21
204 ST. PIERRE & MIQUELON 18
205 MONTSERRAT 17
206 FALKLAND ISLANDS (MALVINAS) 12
207 COOK ISLANDS 8
208 KIRIBATI 8
209 WAKE ISLAND 5
210 SAINT HELENA 3
211 ANTARCTIC FISHERIES 1
212 NIUE 1

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You first:

Ranking of the world's countries by 2003 total CO2 emissions
from fossil-fuel burning, cement production, and gas flaring.
Emissions (CO2_TOT) are expressed in thousand metric tons of
carbon (not CO2).

Source: Gregg Marland, Tom Boden, and Bob Andres
Oak Ridge National Laboratory

RANK NATION CO2_TOT

1 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1580175
2 CHINA (MAINLAND) 1131175
3 RUSSIAN FEDERATION 407593
4 INDIA 347577
5 JAPAN 336142
6 GERMANY 219776
7 CANADA 154392
8 UNITED KINGDOM 152460
9 REPUBLIC OF KOREA 124455
10 ITALY (INCLUDING SAN MARINO) 121608
11 MEXICO 113542

No.

And since 2, 3, 4 and 11 are exempt, that means 1, 2, 3, 4, and 11 emit as they wish. Think that helps cut emissions or helps increase them? Think that helps your cause or hurts it?

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Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

You first:

Ranking of the world's countries by 2003 total CO2 emissions
from fossil-fuel burning, cement production, and gas flaring.
Emissions (CO2_TOT) are expressed in thousand metric tons of
carbon (not CO2).

Source: Gregg Marland, Tom Boden, and Bob Andres
Oak Ridge National Laboratory

RANK NATION CO2_TOT

1 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA 1580175
2 CHINA (MAINLAND) 1131175
3 RUSSIAN FEDERATION 407593
4 INDIA 347577
5 JAPAN 336142
6 GERMANY 219776
7 CANADA 154392
8 UNITED KINGDOM 152460
9 REPUBLIC OF KOREA 124455
10 ITALY (INCLUDING SAN MARINO) 121608
11 MEXICO 113542

No.

And since 2, 3, 4 and 11 are exempt, that means 1, 2, 3, 4, and 11 emit as they wish. Think that helps cut emissions or helps increase them? Think that helps your cause or hurts it?

DId you not notice the huge difference between 1 and the rest of the world? Your emissions are more than 2 and 3 added together.

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Now it is up to people to start realising and changing their living expectations and habits!

Shouldn't all of you start shutting down BOINC and reading quietly instead of burning energy to run your computer?

My electrical power supply is 100% hydroelectric. Thank you Hoover Dam.

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DId you not notice the huge difference between 1 and the rest of the world? Your emissions are more than 2 and 3 added together.

I noticed it. But that doesn't help you. The U.S. won't pay for your program, and 2,3,4, and 11 are exempt.

Again, 1,2,3,4, and 11 emit as they wish, and 2,3,4 and 11 with your apparent blessing. And in two years, 2 will beat 1. Five years after that 2 will be destroying 1.

What happens then?

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

My electrical power supply is 100% hydroelectric. Thank you Hoover Dam.

Electricity is fungible.

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Cordially,
Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

My electrical power supply is 100% hydroelectric. Thank you Hoover Dam.

Electricity is fungible.

...but its' source is not.

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DId you not notice the huge difference between 1 and the rest of the world? Your emissions are more than 2 and 3 added together.

I noticed it. But that doesn't help you. The U.S. won't pay for your program, and 2,3,4, and 11 are exempt.

Again, 1,2,3,4, and 11 emit as they wish, and 2,3,4 and 11 with your apparent blessing. And in two years, 2 will beat 1. Five years after that 2 will be destroying 1.

What happens then?

1,2,3,4, and 11 will emit as they wish, but so will everyone else. It is the UKs wish to do something about the threats posed by Climate Change - such as droughts, storms, tidal surges, flooding, and unbearable heat. But these threats will not be limited to the UK. The USA and China will get all of this, and so will all the other numbers. They will find that can't do as they wish as it becomes obvious that their stupidity will leave their children and children's children with a horrific legacy if the numbers don't start doing something about Climate Change pretty soon.

As for destroying - when did the west ever destroy China or India by being incompetently and economically greedy?

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Electricity is fungible.

...but its' source is not.[/quote]
So what? The electricity you use above and beyond your barest needs is electricity that is removed from the grid. The replacement for that electricity generally isn't generated hydroelectrically.

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Rush

elrushbo2@theobviousgmail.com
Remove the obvious...

Shouldn't all of you start shutting down BOINC and reading quietly instead of burning energy to run your computer?

Ripped out of the context the answer is: YES
But put in the context the answer is: NO

We better put all availiable ressources into researching what's going on and why and trying to stop or at least slow down it's effect.

Sorry, Rush - but this is no game about who "wins" a discussion, but we are aleady in deep trouble. You remind me of someone who would make a joke about increased storms due to global warming right when a tree is about to fall on him.