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Anti-cancer chicken eggs produced UK scientists have developed genetically modified chickens capable of laying eggs containing proteins needed to make cancer-fighting drugs. What do people reckon, a good or a bad idea? Join TeamACC Sometimes I think we are alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we are not. In either case the idea is quite staggering. |
Michael ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 21 Aug 99 Posts: 4609 Credit: 7,427,891 RAC: 18 ![]() ![]() |
Anti-cancer chicken eggs produced I think it's great. "Genetics" might hold the key to many cures of various kinds... |
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Some people might say that it's tinkering with the very fabric of nature? Surely that is what medicine and technology is in the end. Human society has moved on from the palaeolithic. Join TeamACC Sometimes I think we are alone in the universe, and sometimes I think we are not. In either case the idea is quite staggering. |
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Some people might say that it's tinkering with the very fabric of nature? Given the choices mankind has taken, well maybe the question is already answered, and sometimes I hope not. Account frozen... |
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Anti-cancer chicken eggs produced It's a good idea, to develop what is needed. These particular chickens are probably better treated than most. The bad idea is what we are doing to the "most". flaming balloons |
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Anti-cancer chicken eggs produced Eating them of course, what else would you do with a chicken? They seem to be pretty useless as watchdogs, the foxes tend to take them all the time! But then they eat them too. ![]() |
Pawly ![]() Send message Joined: 13 Jan 07 Posts: 2694 Credit: 1,049,945 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Freaks me out a little. The Genetically modified wheat that Monsanto Corp. developed and cultivated is spreading into other farmers fields and choking out natural strains. Monster Wheat!! |
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Freaks me out a little. The Genetically modified wheat that Monsanto Corp. developed and cultivated is spreading into other farmers fields and choking out natural strains. Monster Wheat!! Corn is already Genetically Modified! You have been eating Fritos Brand products and almost ALL corn products come from Geneticaly Modified corn. If it was not modified there would be no corn for us today. Disease was wiping it out. I am not say wheat is the same, but Genetically Modified wheat can be grown for MUCH higher yields than non modified wheat on the same section of ground. Less land equals the same amount of product. Good for farmers, good for future homeowners. ![]() |
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Anti-cancer chicken eggs produced Yes you are right mikey, but I was thinking about the conditions that battery hens were kept in. But as far as I am concerned, so long as they aren't tortured or made to sing karaoke then I remain a fan of KFC. Love it with coleslaw. flaming balloons |
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Anti-cancer chicken eggs produced Yes I agree, most chickens today can go from egg to full maturity to the grocery store in 4 weeks! Yes 4 weeks from little peeper getting his bill trimmed to a full fledged oven stuffer roaster, or whatever, on the store shelf in 4 weeks! Just AMAZING!!! Those little things can EAT!!!! And yes I love KFC chickens and coleslaw too! I like to get a bucket for dinner for the family and eat the leftovers cold the next day. ![]() |
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And yes I love KFC chickens and coleslaw too! I like to get a bucket for dinner for the family and eat the leftovers cold the next day. You know thechicken nuggets are reconstituted mechanically removed meat, or "ground down beaks and feet". Nothing is wasted! It's good to be back amongst friends and colleagues ![]() ![]() |
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And yes I love KFC chickens and coleslaw too! I like to get a bucket for dinner for the family and eat the leftovers cold the next day. Actually the feet are sold seperately, but yes it is very similar to hotdogs, scrapple and a ton of other of these kinds of foods. That is how the phrase "parts is parts" came about. I use the phrase when telling newbies how I build basic computers. ![]() |
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And yes I love KFC chickens and coleslaw too! I like to get a bucket for dinner for the family and eat the leftovers cold the next day. Extra crispy or original receipe...? Account frozen... |
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And yes I love KFC chickens and coleslaw too! I like to get a bucket for dinner for the family and eat the leftovers cold the next day. Original of course! ![]() |
Pawly ![]() Send message Joined: 13 Jan 07 Posts: 2694 Credit: 1,049,945 RAC: 0 ![]() |
@ Mikey Here's the thing, not all crops are modified in the same way. Some are "fixed" for high yield as you pointed out, but others are engineered to produce pesticides and herbicides. That's where the problem lies. Tests show blood, kidney and liver damage in rats. of course Monsanto (leader in the field and the fields) doesn't want you to know this. Check out this article and I'm sure you could google a whole lot more of the same. [url=http://www.newswithviews.com/Smith/jeffrey7.htm] hope the link works, i've been having issues!! lol |
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@ Mikey |
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Sooner or later, we'll have some kind of "Consumer's Report" website(s) to report on which brands are healthy or low risk. In the meantime, on meat in general, I think I'll go back to the habit of taking a drive out to the country to get my meat from a small farm butcher. If you get a freezer and are prepared to buy, say, a hind of beef or deer, you'll find large savings and good taste. The meat's fresh, for one thing. I've never looked into buying poultry that way, but I'm sure it's possible. |
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Sooner or later, we'll have some kind of "Consumer's Report" website(s) to report on which brands are healthy or low risk. It is in the US, but there are things you do not about those places too!!! For instance cows have to be able to 'walk' in, walking on 3 feet is acceptable! Why is that significant, because there is no reason given as to why 3 feet and not 4 feet, nor is it recorded in any way! Go out kill a cow or deer or whatever and do it yourself is the only safe way. BUT WAIT that won't work because we have no idea what that animal ate during its lifetime. FISH have come up with high levels of Mercury and all they do is swim and eat. Animals eat what is on the ground or growing out of it. That can lead to contamination too! We are just out of luck unless we raise the animal ourself and then slaughter and eat it. BUT WAIT where did the animal get the food it ate? We are just out of luck and must trust others!!! ![]() |
Dark Angel ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Aug 01 Posts: 432 Credit: 2,673,754 RAC: 0 ![]() |
Good idea to advance cancer research. REALLY BAD IDEA TO RELEASE THIS INTO THE FOOD SUPPLY! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Dark Angel ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Aug 01 Posts: 432 Credit: 2,673,754 RAC: 0 ![]() |
@ Mikey Don't forget that Monsanto has had these GMO crops in fields right next to non GMO crops...I've got news for the world pollination doesn't just happen in the field where the GMO corn is grown. Wind carries it to other fields and insects are the most prolific pollinators of them all. Basic biology/ecology here... cross pollination is very real and it will happen in the fields where they raise corn or other grains for the seed as well. Once that happens to a great enough degree it is likely that it will be in every level of the food supply and every product that contains that particular grain. Eventually it will be hard to find anything that isn't GMO. Now the really scary thought is this. What happens when we start mixing multiple GMO crops and they start to cross pollinate...what then will we have? Remember that for every Xx and Yy pair of chromosomes that you cross pollinate you will have 8 possible variations in the genetic code. Now compound that with the number of chromosome pairs that each organism has and the number that is genetically modified and compound it again over time with GMO's being introduced and their cross pollinated offspring being reintroduced in with other GMO's or other crops that are non GMO and it gets exponentially complex. It's a bit like Pandora's box in that once it's out there you can't just call it back or undo the damage. It is very very likely that we will see genetic mutations that they did not anticipate. While these proteins that we speak of may be harnessed for the greater good they can also sow destruction on a level not easily imagined. Hypothetically speaking...What would happen if one day we realized that the mystery illness of the future that seems to be striking people is really as a result of the food that we have always deemed as safe but suddenly is deadly poisonous to humans. Some may see this as me playing chicken little but in reality this is what we are looking at and no single person can possibly know what the release of these GMO's will really do, or the damage that they may cause. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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