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Message 304193 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 19:27:22 UTC

With my P4 650 HT at 3.4 GHz and 2 GB RAM using TruXoft’s 4.2.13 Boinc client and Crunch3r’s 4.11 Seti app, I was averaging 3,110.58 sec./wu, a claimed credit of 32.16 and a granted credit of 25.76. Based on the last 96 - 4.18 good wus completed. After installing the new Boinc client 5.4.9 and the Seti 5.12 app, I averaged 13,976.81 sec./wu, a claimed credit of 50.23 and a granted credit of 48.20. Based on 10 – 5.12 wus completed.

This represents a 4.49x increase in computer time per work unit with only a 1.67x increase in claimed credit and only a 1.87x increase in granted credit. Secondly, with everyone getting the same credit for each work unit, we have come full circle back to Seti Classic where everyone received 1 credit per work unit.

Therefore, I have deleted the 5.4.9 BOINC client along with the standard 5.12 Seti app and have reinstalled TruXoft’s 4.2.13 Boinc client and both Crunch3r’s 4.11 and 5.12 Seti apps. With only 4.11 installed the server wouldn’t download any wus so I added Crunch3r’s 5.12 and received numerous 5.13 wus and a hand full of 4.18 wus.

Hopefully the claimed credits will go back up to reflect the actual time spent per wu as mentioned by Odysseus otherwise, I will downgrade further to Crunch3r’s 5.11 Seti app as mentioned by Archae86.

I’ve already uploaded 8 work units with the TruXoft/Crunch3r combination but the computer hasn’t actually reported them yet. Until then, I won’t be able to see the results on my results page at Seti. (Yes, uploading and reporting are 2 separate operations not necessarily carried out at the same time by your computer.)

Many thanks to Crunch3r, TruXoft ,Tetsuji Maverick Rai, Hans Dorn, Harold Naparst, and Ned Slider for their hard work. Without their efforts Seti wouldn’t be doing twice the science today or be as much fun crunching.

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Message 304237 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 19:55:08 UTC - in response to Message 303844.  

Are you sure it was looking in the Windows\\Downloaded Installations for the BOINC.MSI file? That would be a temporary download folder (on Windows 98/ME systems at least) and its contents often deleted.

YES! How do I know? A dialog box will pop up asking for the .msi file in the directory indicated. That's precisely how I knew how to easily fix the problem.

The problem seems to be either the installer program itself or the uninstall command line as listed in the registry.

I haven't yet said that the exact same problem occurrs if I try to uninstall Boinc from the 'add/remove programs' control panel applet. Boinc is properly listed in the 'add/remove programs' list but an uninstall fails with the absent directory failure. So I'm convinced it is the installer program itself or a mistaken registry entry.

This problem might be an installer version problem - I might have some other application's installer code installed which causes a conflict. There is also a possibility that the NET 2.0 package is somehow causing a conflict - but I don't think so.
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Message 304444 - Posted: 13 May 2006, 23:34:26 UTC
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OK, just spotted the new 5.4.9 dl, so I've just installed it after uninstalling the older version I had sitting on my system. 5.2.13 I believe. Anyway, the workunit that I had just started prior to the upgrade has now decided that it doesn't want to play, at all. In fact it's decided that it doesn't even exist except that it's showing in my results section as "In progress", the frustrating thing is that the workunit that I sumbitted just prior to that using the old client is the first workunit I remember that has returned as "Client Error" for me. So not sure if it's worth back tracking to the old client or keeping with the new, as both seem to be having issues atm.
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Message 304578 - Posted: 14 May 2006, 1:21:16 UTC
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The Boinc 5.4.9 reports a very low benchmark


Had the same issue here with my 820 D. Have rerun benchmarks and now gives benchmark figures similiar to when running 5.2.13. The mips figure was the only problem (divide by 2), the flops figure was ok. Seems to be an issue with benchmarking code?
Otherwise the new client runs fine for me.
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Message 305178 - Posted: 14 May 2006, 7:19:16 UTC

As a follow up to my previous post, by switching back to TruXoft’s 4.2.13 BOINC client and Crunch3r’s 5.12 Seti app from the new 5.4.9 BOINC client and the new 5.12 Seti app the following average results were obtained for 11 work units.

The CPU time to process a wu dropped from 13,976.81 sec. to 13,151 sec. real_cpu_time an increase of 5.9% in performance. The reported corrected_cpu_time was 13,889.09 sec. only a 0.6% difference.

There was no improvement in the claimed credit and the granted credit since everyone else using the new Seti version was within +/- 1 credit point. Unless you were using an older BOINC client such as 4.25, 4.43 and 4.45 then you were off by quite a bit.

Since there was no dramatic improvement in claimed credit I will now revert to Crunch3r’s 5.11 Seti app and see what happens.

Franz

BTW: To whoever deleted my previous post along with Odysseus’ and Archae86’s. That was not very democratic. Whatever happened to freedom of speech? As a note, my posts are saved in MS Word and can be reposted in a blink of an eye.
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Message 305193 - Posted: 14 May 2006, 7:31:51 UTC

Just installed 5.4.9 (Linux version)...
Everything worked just fine till I pressed the 'update'-button in the Projects-tab (Seti@home project).
The moment I pressed that button, I lost all data and since then, I can't connect anymore to the client.
Had a restart of my system a couple of times, but I just can't connect anymore.

Is this is a bug?
If it is, I would'nt put 5.4.9 as the recommended version!!!

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Message 305213 - Posted: 14 May 2006, 8:09:40 UTC - in response to Message 305178.  

As a follow up to my previous post, by switching back to TruXoft’s 4.2.13 BOINC client and Crunch3r’s 5.12 Seti app from the new 5.4.9 BOINC client and the new 5.12 Seti app the following average results were obtained for 11 work units.

The CPU time to process a wu dropped from 13,976.81 sec. to 13,151 sec. real_cpu_time an increase of 5.9% in performance. The reported corrected_cpu_time was 13,889.09 sec. only a 0.6% difference.

There was no improvement in the claimed credit and the granted credit since everyone else using the new Seti version was within +/- 1 credit point. Unless you were using an older BOINC client such as 4.25, 4.43 and 4.45 then you were off by quite a bit.

Since there was no dramatic improvement in claimed credit I will now revert to Crunch3r’s 5.11 Seti app and see what happens.

Franz

BTW: To whoever deleted my previous post along with Odysseus’ and Archae86’s. That was not very democratic. Whatever happened to freedom of speech? As a note, my posts are saved in MS Word and can be reposted in a blink of an eye.


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Message 305280 - Posted: 14 May 2006, 11:31:50 UTC - in response to Message 305178.  

Since there was no dramatic improvement in claimed credit I will now revert to Crunch3r’s 5.11 Seti app and see what happens.


If you're not asking to be looked as a cheater, and possibly all your credit be zeroed-out, you should NOT use Seti_Enhanced v5.11.
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Message 305365 - Posted: 14 May 2006, 14:59:33 UTC

Yesterday I´ve upgrade to Version 5.4.9 under Windows XP without any problem.
The only "problem" I have at the moment is that every project that is ready, will uploaded and becomes the Status "ready to report".I can only influence this Status by pressing the update-button for the project involved. Immediately the project disappears from the task-GUI. Must I change a setting?

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Message 305433 - Posted: 14 May 2006, 16:24:09 UTC - in response to Message 305193.  

fic

In the windows version there is a file called "gui_rpc_auth.cfg" that contains the password has for connection to the boinc client. In the case of windows shutdown boinc, rename "gui_rpc_auth.cfg" to "gui_rpc_auth.cfg.old" and restart boinc.. It should see that it is missing and create a new "gui_rpc_auth.cfg" that allows connection. No I do not have a Nix machine running...


Just installed 5.4.9 (Linux version)...
Everything worked just fine till I pressed the 'update'-button in the Projects-tab (Seti@home project).
The moment I pressed that button, I lost all data and since then, I can't connect anymore to the client.
Had a restart of my system a couple of times, but I just can't connect anymore.

Is this is a bug?
If it is, I would'nt put 5.4.9 as the recommended version!!!


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Message 305543 - Posted: 14 May 2006, 19:23:44 UTC - in response to Message 305365.  
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[...] every project that is ready, will uploaded and becomes the Status "ready to report".I can only influence this Status by pressing the update-button for the project involved. Immediately the project disappears from the task-GUI. Must I change a setting?

As the saying goes, “That’s not a bug; it’s a feature.” To reduce traffic on the data servers, and to honour the user’s “connect to network every” preference setting, completed work is normally submitted only when the BOINC client has already negotiated a connection to request new work. Updating forces the transaction to take place immediately, and shouldn’t hurt anything, but if you leave it alone the result will get uploaded next time your client contacts the project. You needn't worry about missing deadlines: if there’s any danger of that, BOINC will make an exception, initiating a connection earlier than usual to submit the result on time.

See the BOINC Wiki “Ready To Report” article.
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Message 305568 - Posted: 14 May 2006, 19:56:51 UTC - in response to Message 305543.  

[...] every project that is ready, will uploaded and becomes the Status "ready to report".I can only influence this Status by pressing the update-button for the project involved. Immediately the project disappears from the task-GUI. Must I change a setting?

As the saying goes, “That’s not a bug; it’s a feature.” To reduce traffic on the data servers, and to honour the user’s “connect to network every” preference setting, completed work is normally submitted only when the BOINC client has already negotiated a connection to request new work. Updating forces the transaction to take place immediately, and shouldn’t hurt anything, but if you leave it alone the result will get uploaded next time your client contacts the project. You needn't worry about missing deadlines: if there’s any danger of that, BOINC will make an exception, initiating a connection earlier than usual to submit the result on time.

See the BOINC Wiki “Ready To Report” article.


Work is reported during any connection to the server. These happen if: the host needs more work from that project, there is a result for that project which has been complete for more than connect every X days, there is a result for that project that is complete and due in earlier than connect every X days from now, there is a result for that project that is complete and is due earlier than 24 hours from now, or the user presses the update button.


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Message 305569 - Posted: 14 May 2006, 20:00:21 UTC

A couple of changes to the CPU scheduler:

1) The check to enter EDF if a result is due within 2 * connect every X days is gone.
2) The check to enter EDF if a result is due within 24 hours is gone.
3) The concept of a computation deadline that is earlier than the report deadline has been introduced. The host will attempt to get work done by the computation deadline by entering EDF if needed. The computation deadline is: the report deadline - (connect every X + switch tasks every X + 24 hours).


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Message 306118 - Posted: 15 May 2006, 7:57:11 UTC - in response to Message 303071.  
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"Searching for an answer solves 95% of the questions asked!"

And generates another 985% of questions...




Sorry, couldn't help myself.
Edit- forgot that the signature doesn't get included in the reply.

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Message 308171 - Posted: 17 May 2006, 3:02:46 UTC

I have trouble installing the recommended version BOINC 5.4.9 on my WIN XP sp2 machine.

I tried installing over my existing 5.4.4 (developemnt)
Upgrading to 5.4.9 It would either

  • install and not be able to connect to the local host
  • it would install and then say there was an internal error 2753 in boincmgr.exe


Re-installing 5.4.4 and running a repair lets the manager connect to the local host and examine the local workunits.

I have currently reverted back to 5.4.4

I would appreciate any assistance to help me install/upgrade a working BOINC 5.4.9

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Message 308205 - Posted: 17 May 2006, 3:34:04 UTC - in response to Message 308171.  

I have trouble installing the recommended version BOINC 5.4.9 on my WIN XP sp2 machine.

I tried installing over my existing 5.4.4 (developemnt)
Upgrading to 5.4.9 It would either

  • install and not be able to connect to the local host
  • it would install and then say there was an internal error 2753 in boincmgr.exe


Re-installing 5.4.4 and running a repair lets the manager connect to the local host and examine the local workunits.

I have currently reverted back to 5.4.4

I would appreciate any assistance to help me install/upgrade a working BOINC 5.4.9


Probably better to post your observations on the BOINC board, or post a bug report on BoincZilla

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Message 308237 - Posted: 17 May 2006, 4:31:03 UTC

Alright I've repeated the message on the BOINC Boards
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Message 310862 - Posted: 20 May 2006, 1:54:14 UTC

I now have 5.4.9 installed
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Message 310865 - Posted: 20 May 2006, 2:01:12 UTC - in response to Message 310862.  

I now have 5.4.9 installed

How did you get around the installation problem?
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Message 312981 - Posted: 22 May 2006, 3:28:29 UTC - in response to Message 303462.  

I can not see any mention of allowing column sort back in BOINC Manager.
column sorting is available in BoincView, you can even "sort by XXX, then by YYY" (primary and secondary sort orders) :)
Want to search the BOINC Wiki, BOINCstats, or various BOINC forums from within firefox? Try the BOINC related Firefox Search Engines
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