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Message 249256 - Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 3:54:52 UTC
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Hi all,

i'm thinking about writing a search plugin to use with the boinc wiki

i'd you'd like this, and would find it benificial, please make a post so that i have an idea if many people would want this

also i'm looking for feedback/suggestions etc.
so my first question is...
if an exact match is found, do you just want to go straight to that page, or do you always like to see the list of results?

another is,
would you prefer use google to search, or use the wiki search?
i personally find the wiki search better, and more relevent (google returns links to history pages, which isn't helpful)
my initial thoughts are to use the wiki search, as it seems better all round

any other suggestions or ideas are more than welcome :)
although there's not much to a search plugin

just incase there's any confusion, i'm intending to write a seperate plugin, that'll appear in the list of search engines in the top right of firefox, so that you just select "BOINC Wiki", type in what you're searching for, and hit enter

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Message 249319 - Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 8:55:48 UTC - in response to Message 249256.

Hi all,

i'm thinking about writing a search plugin to use with the boinc wiki

i'd you'd like this, and would find it benificial, please make a post so that i have an idea if many people would want this

also i'm looking for feedback/suggestions etc.
so my first question is...
if an exact match is found, do you just want to go straight to that page, or do you always like to see the list of results?


My preference would be a results page.

another is,
would you prefer use google to search, or use the wiki search?
i personally find the wiki search better, and more relevent (google returns links to history pages, which isn't helpful)
my initial thoughts are to use the wiki search, as it seems better all round


I'd have to agree. Wiki search.

any other suggestions or ideas are more than welcome :)
although there's not much to a search plugin

just incase there's any confusion, i'm intending to write a seperate plugin, that'll appear in the list of search engines in the top right of firefox, so that you just select "BOINC Wiki", type in what you're searching for, and hit enter


I'm looking forward to seeing it in action.
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Message 249349 - Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 12:32:12 UTC - in response to Message 249256.

Hi all,

i'm thinking about writing a search plugin to use with the boinc wiki

i'd you'd like this, and would find it benificial, please make a post so that i have an idea if many people would want this

also i'm looking for feedback/suggestions etc.
so my first question is...
if an exact match is found, do you just want to go straight to that page, or do you always like to see the list of results?

another is,
would you prefer use google to search, or use the wiki search?
i personally find the wiki search better, and more relevent (google returns links to history pages, which isn't helpful)
my initial thoughts are to use the wiki search, as it seems better all round

any other suggestions or ideas are more than welcome :)
although there's not much to a search plugin

just incase there's any confusion, i'm intending to write a seperate plugin, that'll appear in the list of search engines in the top right of firefox, so that you just select "BOINC Wiki", type in what you're searching for, and hit enter



THis is something I'd like to see.

Definitely Wiki search.

And I would like to see a list of results, not just go to the first page match.

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Message 249361 - Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 13:54:22 UTC - in response to Message 249256.

great idea!
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Message 249369 - Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 14:39:58 UTC - in response to Message 249349.
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THis is something I'd like to see.

Definitely Wiki search.

And I would like to see a list of results, not just go to the first page match.

Kathryn

just to clear some potential confusion, the "instant" method wouldn't just go to the first match regardless (like "i'm feeling lucky" on google does) it would only do so if there was an exact match (such as "credit") if no exact matches were found then it would display a list of results (same as hitting the "go" button on the wiki page, and always displaying results is the same as hitting the "search" button)

"instant" would be like using this URL: http://boinc-doc.net/boinc-wiki/index.php?search=credit&go=Go (note you're redirect to the credit page)

"always search" would be like using this: http://boinc-doc.net/boinc-wiki/index.php?search=credit&fulltext=Search


thanks to all for the interest, now that i know it'll be useful for others besides myself i'll invest some more time into it :)

for all those who don't know, you can find a veriety of other search engine plugins on the mozilla site
http://addons.mozilla.org/search-engines.php
with a link at the bottom to a a dedicated mozdev site with country specific plugins too
http://mycroft.mozdev.org/

there's a plugin for almost every site with a search feature

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Message 249469 - Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 21:07:34 UTC
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right, after a busy afternoon I've finished it and submitted it to http://mycroft.mozdev.org/ :)

it's available by searching their site, or follow this link to the search results page

please test it out and report any problems, bugs or suggestions

a basic search worked under all my test conditions, and i think i've got the sidebar search working properly, but please, test it to death because i want it to be robust

hope you all enjoy

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Message 249581 - Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 0:12:05 UTC

Working like a charm for me, Lee! Nice job! As far as a suggestion, having the result page open in a new tab would make it easier to jump back and forth and cut and paste as needed. Maybe there's a FF setting that would cause that to happen... hmmm.. I'll have to snoop around. But overall, I give it 3 thumbs up.

Now, is this where I plug my graphs???? ;)

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Message 249597 - Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 0:58:47 UTC - in response to Message 249581.
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Working like a charm for me, Lee! Nice job! As far as a suggestion, having the result page open in a new tab would make it easier to jump back and forth and cut and paste as needed. Maybe there's a FF setting that would cause that to happen... hmmm.. I'll have to snoop around. But overall, I give it 3 thumbs up.

ta,
as for opening new tabs, i'm sure there are "lite" versions of tab browsing extensions for just that, but i hightly recommend the Tab Mix Plus extension for all your tab browsing needs, there are enough options for anyone, and it works very well, but for your specific case of wanting searches to open in new tabs (that's the way i like it too) after installing the ext and obviously restarting firefox, open up the options for TMP (tools menu or extensions window) and go to the "events" section then click the "tab opening" tab, in the lower section on the tab there's some "open tabs from:" options, make sure "search bar" is ticked (and any others you want) and click ok (you may need to change other settings, or uninstall other extensions which might cause conflicts, to have things the way you like as tab mix plus covers everything you could want)
thumbs up for such a highly customisable browser :)

Now, is this where I plug my graphs???? ;)

sure is ;)
plug away dude
(seriously guys, his graphs are great :-D )

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Message 249602 - Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 1:01:23 UTC

can someone try searching using the sidebar, i personally don't use a sidebar for searching, and would love to know if it's working correctly (it did using the plugin validator, but that's just simulates a sidebar)

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Message 249679 - Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 3:12:29 UTC

Nice job Lee Carre.

Now if I can just remember it is there.

Isn't Firefox great.
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Message 249715 - Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 4:12:30 UTC - in response to Message 249679.
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Nice job

thanks :)

Isn't Firefox great.

it so is, only been using it for a few months, and i trully hate IE now

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Message 249862 - Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 16:33:07 UTC

Very nice. Excellent for use with the context search.

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Message 249899 - Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 18:41:00 UTC - in response to Message 249862.
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Very nice.

thanks

Excellent for use with the context search.

oh yes, for those who don't know, you can search highlighted text on a page with a serach engine of your choice (using any serach plugin you have, there are thousands available at http://mycroft.mozdev.org/)

to do this you'll need the ConQuery (Context/Contextual Query) extension, once installed, just hightlight a word on a page, choose "query to..." and choose the search engine you want to use

so if you want a definition, choose a dictionary/wiki engine plugin, for more info, choose an encyclopedia search plugin

and it can be used with as many serach plugins as you have/want :)

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Message 249912 - Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 19:10:01 UTC - in response to Message 249469.
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right, after a busy afternoon I've finished it and submitted it to http://mycroft.mozdev.org/ :)

it's available by searching their site, or follow this link to the search results page

please test it out and report any problems, bugs or suggestions

a basic search worked under all my test conditions, and i think i've got the sidebar search working properly, but please, test it to death because i want it to be robust

hope you all enjoy



Lee, when i go to the mycroft (search result page) site i get this message "Page Not Found

The page /boinc-wiki/index.html was not found on this site."

Is there another place for the plugin?


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Message 249914 - Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 19:19:54 UTC - in response to Message 249912.
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Lee, when i go to the mycroft (search result page) site i get this message "Page Not Found

The page /boinc-wiki/index.html was not found on this site."

Is there another place for the plugin?


sorry, forgot to mention that you need to have javascript enabled for the page (guessing you use NoScript)
because javascript is needed to install them (just to make it easier, all it does is copy some files to your profile folder)

it would be nice if they made that clear on their site thou!

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Message 249923 - Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 19:39:17 UTC - in response to Message 249914.

Lee, when i go to the mycroft (search result page) site i get this message "Page Not Found

The page /boinc-wiki/index.html was not found on this site."

Is there another place for the plugin?


sorry, forgot to mention that you need to have javascript enabled for the page (guessing you use NoScript)
because javascript is needed to install them (just to make it easier, all it does is copy some files to your profile folder)

it would be nice if they made that clear on their site thou!



That was it, I forgot sometimes about javascript is disable. Thanks Lee!
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Message 249933 - Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 19:48:36 UTC - in response to Message 249597.
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i hightly recommend the Tab Mix Plus extension

Right you are, Lee! I even have TabMix installed on both my home machines but totally forgot about it on this one. The mind is within the top 3 things to go, you know.
I've been happily hammering away with the wiki search, both from the menubar and advanced sidebar search, and in both cases it has consistently worked perfectly. Paul's hit counter is probably overheating from all the testing. :) Looks like a job well done!

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Message 249958 - Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 20:40:39 UTC - in response to Message 249899.
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oh yes, for those who don't know, you can search highlighted text on a page with a serach engine of your choice (using any serach plugin you have, there are thousands available at http://mycroft.mozdev.org/)

to do this you'll need the ConQuery (Context/Contextual Query) extension, once installed, just hightlight a word on a page, choose "query to..." and choose the search engine you want to use

so if you want a definition, choose a dictionary/wiki engine plugin, for more info, choose an encyclopedia search plugin

and it can be used with as many serach plugins as you have/want :)


Another choice (which I use) is Context Search

https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=240&application=firefox

Hilight the text
right-click the hilighted text
select Search Web for "whatever text you've hilighted"
click the desired search engine displayed in the submenu.

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Message 250043 - Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 23:11:40 UTC - in response to Message 249933.
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i hightly recommend the Tab Mix Plus extension

Right you are, Lee! I even have TabMix installed on both my home machines but totally forgot about it on this one. The mind is within the top 3 things to go, you know.
I've been happily hammering away with the wiki search, both from the menubar and advanced sidebar search, and in both cases it has consistently worked perfectly. Paul's hit counter is probably overheating from all the testing. :) Looks like a job well done!

tab mix plus is a new one which offers even more options and customisations, worth a try

thanks for the glowing report, i'm glad it works properly for both methods :)
a question for all, is the icon suitable? considering it's the boinc wiki, rather than boinc itself, should paul's icon be used or something else? (or just stick with the existing one?)

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Message 250049 - Posted: 18 Feb 2006, 23:27:40 UTC - in response to Message 250043.

a question for all, is the icon suitable? considering it's the boinc wiki, rather than boinc itself, should paul's icon be used or something else? (or just stick with the existing one?)


Personally, I think the BOINC wiki icon would be a better choice.


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