To find them.

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If we search, we might or might not find Intelligent life out there.
But if we don't search, we sure ain't gonna find diddly squat!

I'd much rather do some searching.

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There are three basic types, Mr. Pizer, the wills, the won'ts, and the can'ts. The wills accomplish everything, the won'ts oppose everything, and the can'ts won't try anything.

If we search, we might or might not find Intelligent life out there.
But if we don't search, we sure ain't gonna find diddly squat!

I'd much rather do some searching.

Well said.....lol

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If we don't search ...

we can never prove ...

that we are all alone.

Just doing my part.

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If we don't search ...

we can never prove ...

that we are all alone.

Just doing my part.

On television last night ( can't remember which channel ) there was a program about comets that said it's entirely possible that a comet crashing into Earth was how life got brought here. My question is this. If that is the case, can we really be so confident that we ARE alone.

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On television last night ( can't remember which channel ) there was a program about comets that said it's entirely possible that a comet crashing into Earth was how life got brought here. My question is this. If that is the case, can we really be so confident that we ARE alone.

I'm confident we are not alone. But we can't be sure of anything unless we search.

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There are no such things as aliens. Unless it is proven of course.
Oddly enough I foresaw SETI when I did this web wage some years ago (you need to turn on your PC speakers).

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When I look at the size of the universe and think of all the suns, all the planets orbiting them, there has to be other life there, otherwise the universe is indeed a very large waste of cosmic space, also life developed here so surely logically it must have developed elsewhere, and although we may never find it using the SETI data, I firmly believe that the point is not the success of the project but the actual search. I have been running the SETI application for a long time and never seen the perfect signal but to be honest i'm never likely to, it'll be someone with much better equipment then mine, but every unit i finish, ever result I send in eliminates yet another dud sample. I don't really believe in UFO's as most do but would love to see one, I also think the next stage of our SETI project should be to begin sending high powered signals out into the universe especially towards those stars with likely candidates in orbit.

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What reaction? I would want to know what the REAL signal would be? Just a carrier wave? Something that simply says 'hello, we are out here, 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10' ?

...would be a hell of a disappointment. But at least we have proof that, at best, we are not alone - at worst, we were not alone.

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What reaction? I would want to know what the REAL signal would be? Just a carrier wave? Something that simply says 'hello, we are out here, 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10' ?

...would be a hell of a disappointment. But at least we have proof that, at best, we are not alone - at worst, we were not alone.

Now THAT is a very good point Chuck. What is going to determine if it is a " real " signal?

From what I have read, SETI is looking for a pattern of some kind in the radio signals that we are all processing. But what if there isn't a pattern. Who says that if " they " are out there, they use radio waves in the same kind of way that we do? Or a way even remotely similar.

We have come up with all kinds of ways to encrypt signals to keep them from being deciphered. If there is another life form out there, it's possible that they have too.

Still worth the effort though. You just never know.

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What reaction? I would want to know what the REAL signal would be? Just a carrier wave? Something that simply says 'hello, we are out here, 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10' ?

...would be a hell of a disappointment. But at least we have proof that, at best, we are not alone - at worst, we were not alone.

Now THAT is a very good point Chuck. What is going to determine if it is a " real " signal?

From what I have read, SETI is looking for a pattern of some kind in the radio signals that we are all processing. But what if there isn't a pattern. Who says that if " they " are out there, they use radio waves in the same kind of way that we do? Or a way even remotely similar.

We have come up with all kinds of ways to encrypt signals to keep them from being deciphered. If there is another life form out there, it's possible that they have too.

Still worth the effort though. You just never know.

A signal that is meant as a broadcast has a carrier signal that is somehow tickled with a lower-frequency and lower-amplitude stream of data. We're looking for the carrier signal and hoping to be able to decipher the encoded signal once we know where to look.

The signal might just be:

"This is Navigation Beacon 4. At the sound of the tone the time will be 28:33:80 of day 9, year 17892. Beep. This is Navigation Beacon 4. At the ..."

This would be obviously artificial, although with such a tiny sample it's unlikely we could decipher the words. The advancing time reference would at least give us an idea of their numbering system.

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That's what I mean - we uncover and eliminate all the possible errors, and that short, boring message that really says nothing is all there is. All we know is that someone sent out some type of numbering system some time ago. What then?!?

Religious zealots will claim the numbers refer DIRECTLY to verses in their holy books! OOOOOO! Proof of god!!! That's what will happen next. Terriffic.

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That's what I mean - we uncover and eliminate all the possible errors, and that short, boring message that really says nothing is all there is. All we know is that someone sent out some type of numbering system some time ago. What then?!?

Religious zealots will claim the numbers refer DIRECTLY to verses in their holy books! OOOOOO! Proof of god!!! That's what will happen next. Terriffic.

HAHAHAHAHA...ya know Chuck....this is the first time EVER that I have to say ( as much as I HATE to admit it ) I agree with you one hundred percent. The zealots will twist the numbers ( if indeed it turns out to be numbers ) to suit their own purposes. One has to wonder, though...if the numbers DON'T match up to any verses...are they just gonna CREATE a new book? Or perhaps come up with a " code " that will solidify their argument?

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Religious zealots will claim the numbers refer DIRECTLY to verses in their holy books! OOOOOO! Proof of god!!! That's what will happen next. Terriffic.

And there's chucky again... Knocking religion in yet another thread... Who'd of guessed? ;)

First I'm an astronom amator,when i was 12 i have seen orion nebula in a 300mm newton telescope and i have promised to myself that i'll never forget how insignifiant we are regarding to the infinity.
I'm also interested in CCD acquisition and image processing, that's how i have discovered the wonderful world of informatic.
So i decided to help the scientist communauty with my computer, and hope we'll find something interesting in this numerous data bring by AreciboRadioTelescop!

Keep on computing !!!

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That's what I mean - we uncover and eliminate all the possible errors, and that short, boring message that really says nothing is all there is. All we know is that someone sent out some type of numbering system some time ago. What then?!?

Religious zealots will claim the numbers refer DIRECTLY to verses in their holy books! OOOOOO! Proof of god!!! That's what will happen next. Terriffic.

LOL.... you really made me laugh this time Chuck! HAHA! Lets hope for the sake of man-kind its in Binary or HEX. I don't think any biblical verses are in BIN.

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That's what I mean - we uncover and eliminate all the possible errors, and that short, boring message that really says nothing is all there is. All we know is that someone sent out some type of numbering system some time ago. What then?!?

Religious zealots will claim the numbers refer DIRECTLY to verses in their holy books! OOOOOO! Proof of god!!! That's what will happen next. Terriffic.

LOL.... you really made me laugh this time Chuck! HAHA! Lets hope for the sake of man-kind its in Binary or HEX. I don't think any biblical verses are in BIN.

Ya know...I am not sure whether to think that Chuck may actually have a sense of humor, or whether he was just making a snide remark.

Since it made me literally laugh out loud...I will stick with the idea that maybe, just maybe, Chuck actually has a sense of humor. Just kidding Chuck. That really WAS a good one...lol.

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Most humor takes a pot shot at some group or other. I do that alot to religion because...I just detest the brainlessness and ignorance of it so much!

Look at what we have now - a fictional story about Yeshua of Nazareth having a wife, etc etc in "The DaVinci Code" film, being protested by christians all over. But when the propaganda fantasy "The Passion of the Christ" came out, you didn't see Athiests the world over trying to boycott it! Give me a friggin break!

Just goes to show how controlling religion loves to be. Why shouldn't religion be replaced with science? There's no good reason why we shouldn't all utterly disrespect and attack religion over and over, showing where it's utterly WRONG again and again!

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I choose to help SETI because too many religious fanatics are busy thumping bibles at monkeys. We're all monkeys, and this monkey would like to live on Mars before he dies. Even if I still hold good "moralistic principles."

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We're all monkeys

Not me... I've 'evolved'... ;)