How about your children? Going to raise them to be scientifically questioning everything, and hope that they wind up muslim like you? Or will you make them muslim from day one, dragging them to observe all the customs whether they wish it or not, making them muslim by default from day 1?
No effect on anyone else. Sure.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/01/AR2006040100004_pf.html
interesting, isn't it ?

I don't know, man. I'm still trying to figure out the other questions and I don't tend to read overt nonobjective propaganda.

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http://www.skeptic.com/the_magazine/featured_articles/v12n02_other_ID_theories.php
And another "nonobjective propaganda".

Uhhhh...what is 'nonobjective' about that? Sounds like something I totally agree with. You've confused us...

People tend to insist upon rigourous standards of facts/evidence/logic when dealing with science but throw it all out the window when it comes to their favorite political positions.

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Uhhhh...what is 'nonobjective' about that? Sounds like something I totally agree with. You've confused us...

Sorry. Just joking.(french humour) Are you always serious Robert ?
About the first link i posted from the washingtonpost, I said it was 'interesting', it doesn't mean I agreed every word was written and that it was the truth.

Uhhhh...what is 'nonobjective' about that? Sounds like something I totally agree with. You've confused us...

Sorry. Just joking.(french humour) Are you always serious Robert ?
About the first link i posted from the washingtonpost, I said it was 'interesting', it doesn't mean I agreed every word was written and that it was the truth.

Nah! It just confused me. I thought maybe you had the wrong link or something. It's hard to tell if someone's joking without a :-) in the message.

:-)

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Well, what's nonobjective about

a crusading, simplistic Christianity

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That seems to basically sum it up to me. It's very dangerous when a leader stops thinking, and lets religion guide decisions. That was fine when the very survival of a nation was threatened, but let's face it, 9/11 didn't threaten survival. It was a bloody nose. What happened in return? The US cut off the Taliban's arms and legs. Good tactics in fighting an enemy, as far as I'm concerned, but it could have been accomplished without the revert to 'god is on our side'!

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'god is on our side'!

We, the US, have the largest military fighting force in the world... With that said, If GOD were on our side, this war would have been over a long time ago...

Something tells me this will be the war that ends all wars...

Just not in the way you might think... ;)

'god is on our side'!

We, the US, have the largest military fighting force in the world... With that said, If GOD were on our side, this war would have been over a long time ago...

Something tells me this will be the war that ends all wars...

Just not in the way you might think... ;)

What do you get when you put an Athiest in charge of a religiously indoctrinated population??
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Anything he (the Athiest) or those 'bidding' want.

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Say Whaaaaaaaaa? Not sure what u mean there, big fella..

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It would be more like, what do you get when you put a trite religion-spouting fundaMENTAList in charge of a religious nation?

Then you get anything the leader wants, so long as he spouts 'god is on OUR side!'

At least Jeffrey has some logic - if 'god' was on the side of the US, then 9/11 would never have happened, eh? Of course, then Jeffrey would just go on to claim that it PROVES Allah was the god that showed his ability on that day?!?

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At least Jeffrey has some logic - if 'god' was on the side of the US, then 9/11 would never have happened, eh?

Oh, 911 would have still happened...

However...

The brutal and highly devastating hurricane season is another story... ;)

It would be more like, what do you get when you put a trite religion-spouting fundaMENTAList in charge of a religious nation?

Then you get anything the leader wants, so long as he spouts 'god is on OUR side!'

I would argue that an athiest masquerading as a 'holy/pious person' is far more effective than a leader which is a 'fundamental believer' (in any religion). You can reason with an athiest. The 'sheep' wont suspect, because well read athiests (of which most appear to be) tend to know the 'books' so well in additionl to using them (the books/beliefs) as a tool for manipulation (button pushing).

Better yet, a politicially motivated athiest leading a secular OR non-secular state! What a way to handle the masses.

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If God was on the side of anybody, the Crusades wouldn't have happened.

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If God was on the side of anybody, the Crusades wouldn't have happened.

Or the witch trials.

I find it interesting that every time someone gives credit to God when something good happens, the argument is always that God had nothing to do with it... And yet those same people blame God every time something bad happens, when in fact, God had nothing to do with it...

God forbid we blame PEOPLE for what PEOPLE do... ;)

I find it interesting that every time someone gives credit to God when something good happens, the argument is always that God had nothing to do with it... And yet those same people blame God every time something bad happens, when in fact, God had nothing to do with it...

God forbid we blame PEOPLE for what PEOPLE do... ;)

It's God's will...!

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It's God's will...!

Amen!

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There are three basic types, Mr. Pizer, the wills, the won'ts, and the can'ts. The wills accomplish everything, the won'ts oppose everything, and the can'ts won't try anything.

I find it interesting that every time someone gives credit to God when something good happens, the argument is always that God had nothing to do with it... And yet those same people blame God every time something bad happens, when in fact, God had nothing to do with it...

God forbid we blame PEOPLE for what PEOPLE do... ;)

God can't be responsible for all of the good in the world and not responsible for the bad, it doesn't work that way. God is either responsible for everything or nothing, which is it?