'As a result, people who the NSA may think are outside the United States can actually be on U.S. oil.'

There's that magic word again... OIL

LOL! I rechecked the article. That's what it says exactly!

Stretching a fence along the the border between Mexico and the US might have some advantages to keeping a few people out who are too lazy to burrow under it but it would do nothing for US prestige in the world-
And that's what the US is at a loss for nowadays.
The southern border needs a WALL- one that puts China's raggedy old relic to shame:
Deep down in the dirt and way up in the air and really really thick- with lots of razor wire, broken glass, gun towers and claymores facing south toward the menace.
From National City California to Brownsville Texas with a doublewide road on top for fast response from the Border Patrol- the newest branch of the military.
Of course, I cant imagine who'd spread tar on rooftops or clean up contruction sites or groom the golf courses in Phoenix for 6 bucks an hour- But there'd be that Great Wall-
Something America could really be proud of...cc

Actually Carl, the Great Wall of China was quite effective in keeping the Mongul hordes out of China. The way they got in was by corrupt border garrison commanders who opened the gates. As far as prestige goes, I think the fact that our borders are violated with impunity makes us a laughing stock. In Mexico we are the butt of many jokes. I've even seen, many times, that large automobile window decal, of Calvin (Calvin & Hobes) pissing on the word "La Migra," drivien by some Mexican's. La Migra is their slang for United States Immigration. They will also have a bumper sticker of the Mexican flag on their vehicle. If Mexico is so damned great, why don't they just stay there.

I have no problem with legal immigration, or a temp work visa program. That way we have some control over the criminals and nut jobs. I am an equal opportunity asshole. I once met a young Irish guy at a bar, he was complaining about the US and he had a hard time finding a job, blah blah blah. I asked him about his visa status and he told me that he had over stayed his tourist visa. I told him to go f**k himself and go back to the Emerald Isle where he belonged.

If you want me to really get started, mention the "anchor babies." Foreign women intentionally violate our borders, then give birth here (at our expense), and their child is automatically a U.S. citizen. Go figure...

I once sponsored a friend from Africa to come into the United States. It took him over two years to finally get his residence visa. He went through all the red tape and paperwork, then waited. But when he arrived in America, he was legal. He is now a proud US citizen, he worked hard for it; not by jumping the border and expecting/demanding amnesty.

I've also been a victim of crime commited by illegals and also civil damages. What do the bastards do; yup, they just run back over the border to hide like the morally corrupt bastards they are.

If I had my way it would be a double fence with 50 million land mines between the two. As I said, I'm an equal opportunity asshole, so that should include Canada as well, and more mines.

Rant over ;P

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[quoteBut there'd be that Great Wall-
Something America could really be proud of...cc[/quote]

Ok fine don't build it and when L.A. is leveled then can we?

They have and will extend work visa's for those people that want
to come into our country and work. Build the wall Deep and Long
and who cares what the rest of the world thinks as long as they
take our Money they'll be happy. Hey wait a minute lets cut off
all subsities to poor nations and we can can build a bigger wall.

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If you want me to really get started, mention the "anchor babies." Foreign women intentionally violate our borders, then give birth here (at our expense), and their child is automatically a U.S. citizen. Go figure...

Now there's talk of eliminating that.

If you want me to really get started, mention the "anchor babies." Foreign women intentionally violate our borders, then give birth here (at our expense), and their child is automatically a U.S. citizen. Go figure...

Now there's talk of eliminating that.

Red stamp the birth certificate: BOUNDRY VIOLATOR - NOT A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES.

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If you want me to really get started, mention the "anchor babies." Foreign women intentionally violate our borders, then give birth here (at our expense), and their child is automatically a U.S. citizen. Go figure...

Now there's talk of eliminating that.

Red stamp the birth certificate: BOUNDRY VIOLATOR - NOT A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES.

Most legal scholars agree that in the loopy pre-industrial-age language of the US Constitution, children born to parents still under the juristiction of some other nation are not guarenteed citizenship. (If English is your second language, find an online copy of the US Constitution for a lesson in how not to write clear sentences.) Current law grants automatic citizenship, but laws can be changed if you can get 60 senators to agree.

Many in Washington fear some sort of backlash from the Hispanic community if they enact immigration controls. Thos Hispanics who are citizens have pretty much all the same complaints about illegal immigrants as any other group... these politicians should be reminded that illegal aliens can't vote.

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these politicians should be reminded that illegal aliens can't vote.
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They've been known to do that as well...go figure with our lax voter registration laws from state to state.

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Out of curiosity, can anyone point me to statistics showing how many parents of 'anchor' babies subsequently leave the U.S.?

Here in Canada, we have similar cases of parents coming to Canada to have their children granted Canadian citizenship, but a fair number of them then return to their original country with the child. The reasons I saw given were that male children then subsequently avoid mandatory military service and all have access to better higher education (without even paying the foreign-citizen tuition rates).

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I've more than once put myself in their place- just watching it.
Hauling relief barges to Haiti for Care USA and passing through Dominican waters,
And as well working in Phoenix where all my co-workers were illegals.

The Dominicans could earn $6 a day; the Haitians, maybe $2-
The Mexicans, a couple bucks an hour. Back in their homeland.

In Puerto Rico, a $5/hour job carrying cement blocks was a godsend
In Arizona, where it was easy to send money home to Mexico-
Illegals could make $7-8/hr doing stuff nobody wanted to do.
They worked their asses off till a 'roundup' snatched them back south.
2 weeks later they'd be back on the job, gladly re-hired at the same jobsite.

One morning after a 3 day run dragging a tank barge in nasty weather from Santo Domingo to Ponce, I heard a racket of banging coming from the anchor chain compartment as the engines slowed for entrance to Ponce harbor.
The kid hiding in there wearing nothing but jockey shorts, freaked when he thought we might drop the anchor, knowing that when those 25 lb links started streaming out the hausepipe they'd take him right through the chute with them and he'd be chewed alive.

The Captain told me to hose the kid off and feed him and lock him in a space in the engine room til we got to the dock and the Feds could deal with him. We docked and started pumping the mollassas out of the barge while the kid figured out how to bust out of the filter locker and managed to slip over the side. He swam into the mangroves across the harbor and by the time the badges showed up he was long gone.

My relief showed up after we got the goop pumped out and I got in my car and headed for the west coast where I live for a ten day rotation off steel beach for a break. Five miles from the port I saw that kid on the side of the road, same kid, same jockey shorts.

I took him to a Mayaquez address of a relative he'd memorized and gave him 20 bucks.
Was it my duty to call the cops and have that brave 18 year old jailed and deported?
It never crossed my mind...cc

Iran is expecting its first cloned sheep

Associated Press

TEHRAN, Iran – In less than two months, Iran hopes to record the birth of cloned sheep, the first such attempt in the Middle East and part of the country's ambitions, along with its nuclear and space programs, to become a regional high-tech powerhouse.

The cloning program has backing from Iran's Muslim Shiite religious leaders, who have authorized animal cloning but have banned human reproductive cloning.

Other Sunni Muslim religious leaders, including senior clerics in Saudi Arabia, have banned cloning altogether.

Officials say stem cell researchers tried to impregnate five sheep with cloned embryos and that one of them is expected to deliver twins Feb. 14.

Does this mean they'll have two presidents now?

Sorry Carl, but I can't get all choked up. There are many jobs Americans don't want to do, I agree. That's why I've always said a temporary work visa program should be used. Those people would be checked out and be legal.

My country should not be the dumping ground for the rest of the hemisphere which is following the dictates of a specific church which prohibits birth control. Their population stats are the over-population equivilant of nuclear chain reaction (in less than 20 years Mexico's population will equal America's). They are tearing up their own resources at a rate which is unsustainable; just take a look at the Amazon basin. Everyone of them is a human being, but as a group they are a tidal wave.

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Sorry Carl, but I can't get all choked up. There are many jobs Americans don't want to do, I agree. That's why I've always said a temporary work visa program should be used. Those people would be checked out and be legal.

My country should not be the dumping ground for the rest of the hemisphere which is following the dictates of a specific church which prohibits birth control. Their population stats are the over-population equivilant of nuclear chain reaction (in less than 20 years Mexico's population will equal America's). They are tearing up their own resources at a rate which is unsustainable; just take a look at the Amazon basin. Everyone of them is a human being, but as a group they are a tidal wave.

People like Carl don't discern between legal immigration, which most Americans support and are proud of, and illegal immigration. They paint both with the same brush, and condemn Americans for their "anti-immigration" views, omitting a very important distinction. Many of these same people, who think the world has some God-given right to go to America, legally or not, are the same people who call America corrupt, the great Satan and all manner of derrogatory names, yet, they still come to feed at the trough.

And don't start about policies that let in some applicants and not others. Every country has immigration rules, policies and practices that others may not like, but a sovereign country can do as its lawmakers and administrators see fit, and it's unthinkable that they would care one whit about what some disgruntled foreigner wants.

Et tu Tom, et tu...?!

And on the lighter side of things...

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If you are bugged by that guy living a less than american life style in your neck of the woods and dont mind being separated from just $10, you can report him through this one-stop internet service providing quick & easy expedience for getting the ball rolling on his arrest.
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If it turns out he's not illegal- sorry, but your $10 is not refundable.
This service claims to know all the buttons to push to get the badges swarming over this guy in notime.
And if you time it right, you might get to see them drag him out of his hovel.
Please dont use this service for those kids who play the stereo loud or for those keeping a barking dog...cc

Killing of Iraq Kurds 'genocide'

A court in The Hague has ruled that the killing of thousands of Kurds in Iraq in the 1980s was an act of genocide.

"The court has no other conclusion than that these attacks were committed with the intent to destroy the Kurdish population of Iraq"
Court ruling

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"I'm trying to maintain a shred of dignity in this world." - Me

Opposition leader in Egypt denounces U.S.

NEW YORK TIMES NEWS SERVICE

December 23, 2005

CAIRO, Egypt – Two weeks after the Muslim Brotherhood won 88 seats in parliament and established itself as Egypt's only significant political opposition organization, its leader issued a statement condemning the United States while declaring that the Holocaust was a myth.

In a statement issued on the group's Web site, Mohammed Mahdi Akef, the supreme guide of the brotherhood, said that America may be the public face of the new world order but that, from "backstage," it is being "manipulated by the hands of the sons of Zion."

He also echoed comments made earlier by Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who had called the Holocaust a myth.

In his weekly letter on the Web site, Akef said, "Western democracy has attacked everyone who does not share the vision of the sons of Zion as far as the myth of the Holocaust is concerned."

The statement came just days after the Muslim Brotherhood watched a record number of its members take seats in the 454-member parliament. The Brotherhood is a banned organization that was allowed to campaign for more than 100 members who ran as independents.

While Brotherhood members have long promoted extreme ideas – such as Israel's being behind the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 – the notion that the Holocaust was exaggerated and manipulated to justify creation of Israel is not out of the mainstream here.

In an article published three days ago in the Egyptian daily newspaper Al-Masaa, Hisham Abd al-Rauf, a columnist, wrote that Nazi execution chambers were "no more than rooms to disinfect clothing."