Having heard reports of 'wave' guns and 'popper' domes, (which are supposed to be remotely activated area saturation devices), I was curious if anyone had heard of any reliable information confirming these weapons are in use? UHF Radar Microwave Sonar, anything like that?

Not being able to find my tin hat, I was wondering if I should look a little harder for it, or fashion an improved model.

And please, no reports of combat by 'boom-boxed' disco music.

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Closest thing in my memory is this.

thanks misfit,

while an innovative use of a delivery system, rail guns stil 'fire' conventional projectiles.

What I'm looking for, and maybe not communicating properly, is that I'm interested in these weapons that do not rely on the delivery of a 'shell' but that they deliver only radio waves, sonar, or micro-waves, and the like....

there are, what I like to call, unconfrmed and rumored reports floating around....

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> Having heard reports of 'wave' guns and 'popper' domes, (which are supposed to
> be remotely activated area saturation devices), I was curious if anyone had
> heard of any reliable information confirming these weapons are in use? UHF
> Radar Microwave Sonar, anything like that?
>
> Not being able to find my tin hat, I was wondering if I should look a little
> harder for it, or fashion an improved model.
>
> And please, no reports of combat by 'boom-boxed' disco music.
>

Actually the Russians (read soviets) had a HF Radar system that operated in the 10, 15 and 20 meter HF Band. We amateur radio operators referred to it as the Russian Woodpecker because of the way it sounded.

I saw something on the Military Channel (x. Discovery wings) of a Microwave jamming device mounted in the nose of a C-141 or some such aircraft.

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This is what I found in 5 minutes of looking. I heard about HAARP a few years ago on the radio when some whales and dolphins were discovered killed by sonar. The X-Files did a show based on the northern New Mexico military LF experiments that were vexing the residents in that area for years in the 80's. This is probably not what you had in mind, however.

http://www.echoedvoices.org/Jan2002/JanHaarp.html

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Induced solar coronal mass ejecta.

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High-power microwave (HPM) /EMP

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High Power Electromagnetic Pulse /EMP

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The Electromagnetic Bomb - a Weapon of Electrical Mass Destruction

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All this is very "old" hat. Find something really new and interesting.
NA had a good idea. I won't be surprised if the Pentagon picks up on
it and starts a $300,000,000 feasibility study for the project.

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Check out thememoryhole.org

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Wasn't there a sub-sonic (or very nearly) device tested by the ?french? to quell riots many years ago?

cRunchy

Microwaving Iraq

Janaury 25, 2005 - On the rooftop of a shrapnel-pocked building in the ruins of Fallujah, a team of GI's stealthily sets up a gray plastic dome about two-feet in diameter. Keeping well back from the sight lines of the street and nearby buildings, they plug the cable connectors on the side of the "popper" into a power unit.

The grunts have no clue what the device does. They are just following orders.

"Most of the worker-bees that are placing these do not even know what is inside the "domes" just that they were told where to place them by Intel weenies with usually no nametag," reports my source, a very well informed combat veteran I will call "Hank".

The grunts call the plastic devices "poppers" or "domes". Once activated, each hidden transmitter emits a widening circle of invisible energy capable of passing through metal, concrete and human skulls up to half a mile away. "They are saturating the area with ULF, VLF and UHF freqs," Hanks says, with equipment derived from US Navy undersea sonar and communications.

But its not being used to locate and talk to submarines under Baghdad.

After powering up the unit, the grunts quickly exit the area. It is their commanders, fervent hope that any male survivors enraged by brutal American bombardments that damaged virtually every building in this once thriving "City of Mosques", displacing a quarter-million residents while murdering thousands of children, women and elders in their homes -- will lose all incentive for further resistance and revenge.

"The 'poppers,' are capable of using a combo of ULF, VLF, UHF and EHF wavelengths in any combination at the same time, sometimes using one as a carrier wave for the others," Hank explains, in a process called superheterodyning.

The silent frequencies daily sweeping Fallujah and other trouble spots are the same Navy "freqs that drove whales nuts and made them go astray onto beaches."

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Paul, I just spent an hour researching your Microwave story, Although I think it is possible I cant find any credible source to verify this story with the exception of the writer William Thomas,

The only "major news" source is the Washington Times who’s rep is questionable..
Not to be confused with the Washington Post, Who sometimes is questionable..

All of the sites I visited are fringe news organizations....

Please Paul understand I am not attacking you personally, I just want the truth and be able to verify it.

Timmy

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I know, I prefaced the thread by stating that all I could find was unconfirmed sources.

But since it certainly doesn't sound out of the realm of possibility, I was looking for other sources or precedents.
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> I know, I prefaced the thread by stating that all I could find was unconfirmed
> sources.
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> But since it certainly doesn't sound out of the realm of possibility, I was
> looking for other sources or precedents.
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> You don't trust the Moonies ?
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there are, what I like to call, unconfrmed and rumored reports floating around....

Me sorry! Paul, Didn't see it

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During Vietnam, the military had several items that would be of use in Iraq. One of them was the ability to pinpoint the source of hostile fire by microwave radar. Perhaps, this is what it is.

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Hi All,
Stephen, yes they used Microwave devices in Vietnam ,and they are being used today. Most of the new Jet aircraft have the same type of "Microwave Radar" that was developed for the F-18 Hornet. Of course their design and specifics are classified. As others were speaking about the only "dishes" I became familiar with, you can see today around many Military bases or Government buildings, and some very hidden places. Most are used to intercept communication, where as in a war zone they are primarily used to disrupt communication,by emitting some the signals you have discribed. Because of their short range, they are primaily set up in "hot" areas, to disrupt opposing forces internal communications. There are other practical purposes for these "domes". They can be used to "paint" targets, that cannot be locked on by other means.
I will try to find the article in the Navy Times that came out during the conflict in Kuwaitt.

Regards,

Rocky

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> All this is very "old" hat. Find something really new and interesting.
> NA had a good idea. I won't be surprised if the Pentagon picks up on
> it and starts a $300,000,000 feasibility study for the project.
>
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How about particles of antimatter! Then the target will be annihilated instantly just leaving some energy (most probably heat energy!) behind!

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Some of you may be able to correct me if I'm wrong, but I have heard that people working around large dish microwave radars have been seriously injured by being too close to a focus of the energy when the apparatus was inadvertantly powered up before everyone retired to a shielded control area.

Seems not improbable to me, but I'm no expert.

If it is possible... If it has been demonstrated to be factual....

Why would a 'focused' weapon be so implausible?

With the great strides in building ever smaller electronic devices, why couldn't it be possible for a small, remote controlled, radiating weapon to be employed?
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