Greetings,

Success at last!!! :)

All 3 Pis are working identically now. I can deal with BOINC the same way using RDC. I no longer have to have a second BOINC Manager window on my main to see what's happening on Pi #1. Woohoo! :)

Thank you to all that helped: Keith, Brent, Gary, Mark and anyone else I cannot remember off the top of my head! I do believe I learned just a fraction more about using Linux during this ordeal.

One thing though. When I copied the client_state.xml file back to the BOINC data directory I checked the properties and it was the size of the file I copied to my /home/Documents directory before reinstalling BOINC. After reinstalling BOINC I fired up BOINC Manager and it still had me attach to SETI. I didn't think I would have to do that. I went to my account and there is only one Rasbpi-1 host so I didn't have to merge to the new host. Woohoo! :) It even still has the Dec 11, 2018 creation date. :)

Thanks again to everyone and have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

You have learned a lot about Linux in a short time. Give yourself a pat on the back! Most importantly, you understood what you were being told, which goes a long way in learning.

Now lets get BOINCTasks on the Windows10 box and you will rarely use RDC :)
It will be easy now that you understand it.

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You have learned a lot about Linux in a short time. Give yourself a pat on the back! Most importantly, you understood what you were being told, which goes a long way in learning.

Now lets get BOINCTasks on the Windows10 box and you will rarely use RDC :)
It will be easy now that you understand it.

Hi Brent,

Well, I downloaded and installed BOINCTasks. Everything was going well. My main shows up, and all 3 Pis showed up. Something happen and I don't know what, but 2 Pis are still connected while a different one is having some kind of problem. The Status column shows 3 connected and the one that is not show "Password". All sets of .cfg files for the 3 Pis are identical. If I RDC into each Pi, Pis 1 and 3 shows the BOINC Manager, everything is good. On Pi #2 it is acting like my first Pi was where it's not connected to the client. But the window shows up and I get no message that it cannot connect to the core client. The taskbar icon shows a red dot on it.

I just had a though, I'll shut down BOINC and reboot the Pi and see what that does. Whether it works or not I'll edit this post with my findings.

Looks like if it weren't for bad luck I'd have none at all. ;)

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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Didn't change a thing. Still the same old thing. :( I remembered something after I posted this. I remembered that when I was in RDC checking files or whatever, the Pi locked up. What I don't remember is whether this happened before or after the problem started. I got a feeling I'm gonna have to do with this Pi that I did with Pi #1 which is working correctly now. Oh, and by the way, I saw that the "<allow_gui_rpc..." is not in the cc_config.xml file on any of the Pis.
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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Sometimes it takes a while for BoincTasks to poll the computers. Normally an exit of BT and restart suffices. Be aware that using the normal exit "X" in the right corner just closes the BT manager, it does not actually close the program. If you check your Task Manager you will still see the BT client. To fully exit BT you should use the File menu Exit.

Try just going to the Computers tab and clicking on the computer that shows password in the status column. Now click on the ***** for that computer in the Password column, it should show you your gui_rpc_auth.cfg password for that host. Does it match what you thought it was? Should be the same as your other hosts that are connecting if I remember correctly and you said you set them all the same.

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Sometimes it takes a while for BoincTasks to poll the computers. Normally an exit of BT and restart suffices. Be aware that using the normal exit "X" in the right corner just closes the BT manager, it does not actually close the program. If you check your Task Manager you will still see the BT client. To fully exit BT you should use the File menu Exit.

Try just going to the Computers tab and clicking on the computer that shows password in the status column. Now click on the ***** for that computer in the Password column, it should show you your gui_rpc_auth.cfg password for that host. Does it match what you thought it was? Should be the same as your other hosts that are connecting if I remember correctly and you said you set them all the same.

Hi Keith,

This is weird. I did as you said, selected the Pi not connected and clicked the password column. Nothing was there, so I typed it in. I looked at the others and they are all blank too. And, I see that the Pi is now connected. Weird! :|

Yeah, I know about shutting down BOINCTasks. I just right lick the icon in the tray and exit. I'll have to remember the menu option though. That is so old school having to go to the menu to shut down a program. BOINCVeiw is the same way. I guess I'll get rid of it now. The thing I don't like about BOINCTasks is that you have to go to the icon to open the program. Must be a setting for that somewhere.

Thanks Keith and have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Yes go to the Extra menu in BT and select the BT settings. You have the choice of starting BT at Login or hiding BT at Startup. You can also set the delay before BT runs to let the video drivers get fully settled.

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Yes go to the Extra menu in BT and select the BT settings. You have the choice of starting BT at Login or hiding BT at Startup. You can also set the delay before BT runs to let the video drivers get fully settled.

Got it! Thanks again Keith! :)

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

You will find increasing the checkpoint interval will improve the lifespan of your SD cards. For my Pi’s I have it set to 600 seconds. You can change it via BOINCtasks. Expect the SD cards to wear out around 6 to 9 months, so it’s good to have an install process to follow and a spare SD card.

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For remote client connections you will want this in cc_config.
<allow_remote_gui_rpc>1</allow_remote_gui_rpc>

You don’t need this if you’ve set the gui_rpc_auth and remote_hosts values. That’s why your BOINCtasks was able to communicate with the BOINC clients without the password column being filled in. Its a security risk. From the BOINC wiki

If 1, allow GUI RPCs from any remote host (see Controlling BOINC remotely).

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So how do you like BOINCTasks?
It's a great program isn't it.

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For remote client connections you will want this in cc_config.
<allow_remote_gui_rpc>1</allow_remote_gui_rpc>

You don’t need this if you’ve set the gui_rpc_auth and remote_hosts values. That’s why your BOINCtasks was able to communicate with the BOINC clients without the password column being filled in. Its a security risk. From the BOINC wiki

If 1, allow GUI RPCs from any remote host (see Controlling BOINC remotely).

Hi Mark,

I really hate this statement, but... Let me see if I have this straight.

With <allow_remote_gui_rpc>1</allow_remote_gui_rpc> in cc_config, BOINCTasks will require me to enter the password when it tries to connect to the client. If, however, gui_rpc_auth and remote_hosts are set, the password is automatically sent to BOINCTasks. Is that what you are saying?

I think that was what I did when Pi #2, this time, was giving me stress. I added <allow_remote_gui_rpc>1</allow_remote_gui_rpc> to cc_config, now that I remember. I believe I would prefer to enter the password when connecting. So, on all Pis I need to add to cc_config and subtract from gui_rpc_auth and remote_hosts? It seems to me that remote_hosts should stay with the remote IP address, right?

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

So how do you like BOINCTasks?
It's a great program isn't it.

Hi Brent,

Yes it is, once one gets used to using it. ;) I like it. I like the fact that I don't even need to go to my account and see the hosts individual stats like RAC, total credits, etc.

I was using BOINCView a couple times and found that if I got rid of the window, like in BOINCTasks, the program stays in the tray, but I noticed a lot of extra bandwidth usage with it that I don't see with BOINCTasks so I exited it using the icons context menu. I think I'll get rid of BOINCView. ;)

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

You will find increasing the checkpoint interval will improve the lifespan of your SD cards. For my Pi’s I have it set to 600 seconds. You can change it via BOINCtasks. Expect the SD cards to wear out around 6 to 9 months, so it’s good to have an install process to follow and a spare SD card.

Hi Mark,

I went through the settings window in BOINCTasks for one of my Pis and found nothing remotely resembling "checkpoint". Is there another term for it?

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Task checkpoint in is your Account Settings on the Website in your Computing preferences about middle of the page.

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A proud member of the OFA (Old Farts Association)

Task checkpoint in is your Account Settings on the Website in your Computing preferences about middle of the page.

Hi Keith,

Found and done. Thanks! I didn't even think to look there since I do all my settings in the manager.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Ahh, Local settings are under the Network tab.
Write to disk at most every xxx seconds.

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Greetings,

Several days ago I was told that after several months the MicroSD card will die running on a Raspberry Pi. I started thinking about the possibility of running a Pi from an SSD drive. Lo and behold! :)

I Googled it and found that it is not only possible, but better. For those running BOINC on a Raspberry Pi, here's a website that goes through the steps to run a Pi from an SSD. And this website shows 2 ways of mounting the SSD with the Pi. I prefer to have the drive under the Pi myself. :)

Now, I just need to collect 3 SSDs and 3 SATA to USB 2.0 adapters... :)

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Several days ago I was told that after several months the MicroSD card will die running on a Raspberry Pi. I started thinking about the possibility of running a Pi from an SSD drive. Lo and behold! :)

Yes that’s one of the reasons they made the Pi Drive

Now, I just need to collect 3 SSDs and 3 SATA to USB 2.0 adapters... :)

You can use any USB drive. The portable SSD’s or hard disks with a USB cable are ideal. The best sort are ones that come with their own power supply as the Pi doesn’t supply much current via the USB. I haven’t tried them but those portable SSD’s should work well.

I have used the Seagate expansion drives (2 and 3TB with a 3.5 inch HDD inside) with some success. I also have two Pi Drives on a couple of Pi’s. One is used as a proxy server and another as a NFS share drive for the other Pis. Some pics of the Pi Driveshere

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Several days ago I was told that after several months the MicroSD card will die running on a Raspberry Pi. I started thinking about the possibility of running a Pi from an SSD drive. Lo and behold! :)

Yes that’s one of the reasons they made the Pi Drive

Now, I just need to collect 3 SSDs and 3 SATA to USB 2.0 adapters... :)

You can use any USB drive. The portable SSD’s or hard disks with a USB cable are ideal. The best sort are ones that come with their own power supply as the Pi doesn’t supply much current via the USB. I haven’t tried them but those portable SSD’s should work well.

I have used the Seagate expansion drives (2 and 3TB with a 3.5 inch HDD inside) with some success. I also have two Pi Drives on a couple of Pi’s. One is used as a proxy server and another as a NFS share drive for the other Pis. Some pics of the Pi Driveshere

Hi Mark,

From what I have been reading, the 2.5 inch laptop drives work just fine with the USB on the Pi. The 3.5 and up do not because they require 12v power.

But, if one can find USB drives, that would eliminate the need for a SATA to USB adapter.

I'll keep looking around. :)

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath

Greetings,

This post is just for a title change. Since this thread has morphed into more of an information thread, I am changing the title.

Have a great day! :)

Siran

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CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\//
Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker
"Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath