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Message 1882883 - Posted: 9 Aug 2017, 22:57:02 UTC - in response to Message 1882809.  
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"According to a report today from the Washington Post
That is a fake news site! Don't believe it. But if you do believe it, you must believe everything it prints about tRump.

Maybe JE has to read "fake news" sites as well now. As that story in his post 1882729 was first reported by Fox News and it was based on a leak. It was repeated on "Fox and Friends" where Trump heard it and then tweeted about it.

As the AG has promised to crack down on leaks, and the UN ambassador said that leaked memo contained Classified info, What should happen to Fox News and "Fox and Friends"?
Do we regard it as another "fake news" site.
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Message 1882884 - Posted: 9 Aug 2017, 23:11:37 UTC - in response to Message 1882883.  

"According to a report today from the Washington Post
That is a fake news site! Don't believe it. But if you do believe it, you must believe everything it prints about tRump.

Maybe JE has to read "fake news" sites as well now. As that story in his post 1882729 was first reported by Fox News and it was based on a leak. It was repeated on "Fox and Friends" where Trump heard it and then tweeted about it.

As the AG has promised to crack down on leaks, and the UN ambassador said that leaked memo contained Classified info, What should happen to Fox News and "Fox and Friends"?
Do we regard it as another "fake news" site.
Shouldn't the FBI be investigating the consumers of fake news sites like "Fox an Friends" as they pay for these leak sites to operate? Follow the money.
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Message 1882907 - Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 1:23:10 UTC - in response to Message 1882902.  

Clyde good call Captain Obvious and very constructive.
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Message 1882910 - Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 1:48:44 UTC

That's right boys, click your heels together three times and it will all go away......
carry on your proud tradition of sticking your head in the sand.......perhaps when a NoKo Nuke goes off 10 miles above Pocatello the fake news may seem a little more real......

......hopefully Num Dum Nuts will be curbed before this goes much further.

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Message 1882917 - Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 3:47:27 UTC - in response to Message 1882910.  

Click you heels three times ans pray, tRump isn't JFK and because of that Kim will misread him and we don't have enough iodine pills.
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Message 1882920 - Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 4:07:45 UTC

We dA 45ers, Are FINISHED with Liberal Academic Strategic Diplomatic SPEWING.

FIRE must have FIRE. FURY Reaps FURY. DEATH has Become THEM.

NOKO. Please Lob 4 Missiles Over Japan and Into Ocean 10s of Miles from Guam.

We dA 45ers, Will Then GET SOME.

LOBster Yap is SO TASTY

May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
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Message 1882928 - Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 4:54:03 UTC - in response to Message 1882917.  

Click you heels three times ans pray, tRump isn't JFK and because of that Kim will misread him and we don't have enough iodine pills.


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Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.
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Message 1882931 - Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 5:01:47 UTC - in response to Message 1882917.  

Gary, that about sums it up - and sadly I think the reverse is also true. Neither Trump nor Kim has the political brain that JFK or Khrushchev had and that really worries me.
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Message 1882964 - Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 12:28:14 UTC

I have read numerous assessments of what a war would look like with NK. None of them are pleasant. Also, the logistics have not been set up. That takes months to get going. Perhaps 3 carrier groups in the area, many more troops in SK, fueling and resupply lines have to be established. Militarily, we would defeat NK, but the initial contact would be lobbing missiles at each other, and if theirs are nuclear, then whether their targeting system are any good or not, potentially millions could die, and radioactive clouds would circulate world wide. Beginning the logistics build up, may trigger a NK response, before we were ready. They are already ready. Their artillery positions would devastate SK, with 10's of thousands dying in the first hour. Then the really big wildcard, is if China gets involved. That would change things in a really, really bad way.

Doing nothing is an uncomfortable option as well, but I think it may be the best. We allow NK to establish their weapons, and either ignore their boasts, or engage them in a positive way. The only reason they can still exist, is because they tell their people that the US is a constant threat. Like Iran, NK can't afford to allow peaceful investments and cooperation from the west. Their virtual enemy would vanish, and their reason for existence right along with it. As I have stated before, NK has not shown ambition to take over the world, or even attack its neighbors. It's moves have been to ensure the survival of the regime. I think hat getting to know an enemy, then working with them is a far safer solution than any form of military confrontation. One could reason that with all the nuclear potential, NK could attack us. Well, so could China, and Russia, but they don't.

It might be better to try our best to learn about our enemies, and understand what their real fears are. I tend to think that the real fear for both NK, and Iran, is normal interactive relations with the west. That could collapse both regimes. These are terrible, cruel regimes, and letting them off the hook, may seem like it is against what we stand for, but it may be the best way to enact positive change. A war where potentially millions could die, radioactive clouds floating around the earth, and infrastructure collapse doesn't sound like a workable alternative to me.

Perhaps, as in the movie War Games, the only winning strategy is not to play.

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Message 1882985 - Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 15:32:56 UTC

All I am going to say regarding this potential crisis is................................

If you believe in the power of prayer, now would be the time.

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Message 1883044 - Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 21:21:27 UTC

If you believe in the power of prayer, now would be the time.


Dear GOD: I PRAY dAt 5,000 or Less INNOCENT NOKO CIVILIANS and NOT 5,000,000 INNOCENT NOKO CILVIANS Die.

Also GOD, May ALL NOKO MILITARY and CIVILIAN, who IN THEIR HEARTs Wish DEATH to AMERICANS, ALL DIE.

And GOD, Please SPARE ALL NON-HUMAN Life.

Let's Get This FIRE, FURY, and HYPER-POWER Going. NOW.

AMEN

GOoD GOD Yap

May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
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Message 1883045 - Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 21:33:44 UTC - in response to Message 1882985.  
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All I am going to say regarding this potential crisis is................................
If you believe in the power of prayer, now would be the time.
Meow.

Like Texas pastor Robert Jeffress does?
‘God has given Trump authority to take out Kim Jong Un,’ evangelical adviser says.

Please. Leave Religion out of this!
If you insist Kim Il Sung is THE GOD in NK and is the grandfather to Kim Jong Un!
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Message 1883063 - Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 23:21:03 UTC - in response to Message 1883045.  

‘God has given Trump authority to take out Kim Jong Un,’ evangelical adviser says.

Why am I reminded of Nancy Reagan and astrology?
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Message 1883067 - Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 23:38:10 UTC

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Message 1883074 - Posted: 11 Aug 2017, 0:00:34 UTC - in response to Message 1883045.  
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‘God has given Trump authority to take out Kim Jong Un,’ evangelical adviser says.


God also told a Florida man to blow up his own mailbox. Barring any evidence I think the two divine revelations are worth about the same amount. :^p
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Message 1883077 - Posted: 11 Aug 2017, 0:10:18 UTC

US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has called for calm and said people should “sleep well at night”.
Mmmm... Sleeping well in Guam...
I wouldn't.
"Don't panic because we will alarm you with sirens that means you have about 15 minutes to cover."
Cover where?
Caverns near the beach?
Solid buildings underground?
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Message 1883092 - Posted: 11 Aug 2017, 1:44:38 UTC - in response to Message 1883080.  

What now?

Yes. What now?
Even Armchair Generals are clueless.
Does Kim Jong Un have a strategy?
No one knows.
What tactics will he use with an unknown strategy?
No one knows.
Shooting 4 test missiles against Guam.
Is that a strategically move or a tactically move?
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Message 1883095 - Posted: 11 Aug 2017, 2:03:28 UTC - in response to Message 1883092.  

Shooting 4 test missiles against Guam.
Is that a strategically move or a tactically move?

Tactical, wants to know how many he has to shoot to get past the ABM's.
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Message 1883099 - Posted: 11 Aug 2017, 2:27:36 UTC - in response to Message 1883095.  

Shooting 4 test missiles against Guam.
Is that a strategically move or a tactically move?

Tactical, wants to know how many he has to shoot to get past the ABM's.

Perhaps the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) ballistic missiles will now be tested for real.
https://www.defensetech.org/2013/04/03/thaad-headed-to-guam-following-nk-threats/
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Message 1883108 - Posted: 11 Aug 2017, 3:46:36 UTC - in response to Message 1883099.  

Shooting 4 test missiles against Guam.
Is that a strategically move or a tactically move?

Tactical, wants to know how many he has to shoot to get past the ABM's.

Perhaps the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) ballistic missiles will now be tested for real.

I sincerely hope not because tRump is dumb enough to retaliate on launch of unarmed rockets and not wait to find out they are unarmed.

I believe there are multiple systems that can take them out. Japan has PAC-3, Standard Missile-3 Block IIa and the Aegis system. Our ships at sea also have the Aegis system. THAAD on Guam is another.

From an operational standpoint a real test would be desirable, there can be no chance if Kim might be sending warheads and even if Kim announced test missiles, he couldn't be believed.
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