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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30683 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
The oligarchy was put into motion when 3/5 citizens were invented, people were chattel and women couldn't vote or own land; since then it has very slowly been losing its grip, until Trump, who has made its grip firm around the throats of the common man. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11362 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
High taxation, burdensome regulations and political correctness has created what oligopoly we have now. Guy, no the Reagan revolution created our present oligopoly. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Yes, the Founding Fathers understood. Do you? I don't think your Founding Fathers understood either. Things have changed a lot since the US Constitution was declared more than 200 years ago. Twenty-seven amendments have been added to the Constitution since then. Then there are 50 state Constitutions as well! In 19 states, the state constitutions have been amended at least 100 times. "We the people" seems to me have different meanings in the USA depending in which state you live in. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
"We the people" seems to me have different meanings in the USA depending in which state you live in. WHY? shouldn't it mean the same throughout all 50 states? |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
"We the people" seems to me have different meanings in the USA depending in which state you live in. The European Union is still very much only a trade union. That EU will become the United States of Europe will probably never happen. There is a difference between the meanings of state unions and united states. Maybe an amendement to the name United States of America should be Sort Of, USASO:) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
In other words: "We the people" is only applicable for Politicians, Lawyers & Lobbyists. btw, when did you add a 51st state? |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
50 states and Washington DC. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30683 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
"We the people" seems to me have different meanings in the USA depending in which state you live in. In some places it is read, "We the Red Necks" others "We the White Males" others "We the Landlords" |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
50 states and Washington DC. Well, more precisely, 50 Constitutional Republics (the States) and the Federal Constitutional Republic (which also has exclusive jurisdiction over the capital district (Washington D.C.)). 50 + 1... 51 different Governments, internally. Externally, only the Federal Government has much relevance. Also, eariler, Clyde called the USA the 'EU-lite'... I would say it is the other way around, especially since the USA existed well before the EU. The EU is the 'USA-lite'. They are not anywhere near as far down the path as the USA is... And they SHOULD take warning lest what happened to US happens to THEM. @ Janneseti, The EU is just a trade union? It has a Government. It issues Passports. It collects taxes. It passes laws. It even has a military (see Article 42). 'Just a Trade Union'? I disagree. https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Not to mention 'We the Supercilious Welfare State Liberalists"(Californicate comes immediately to mind)."We the people" seems to me have different meanings in the USA depending in which state you live in. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
50 states and Washington DC. Issues Passports. Nope Collects taxes. Nope Passes laws. Some Has a military. Hehe:) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocorps |
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JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
"I'm Donald Trump and I approved this message..............." https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4351026/clinton-1995-immigration-sotu "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
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JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Well, the intent was to avoid 'direct' democracy as much as possible. Remember, it is not the People that elect the President, but the State Governments. The People elected their own State's Government, after all. Direct Democracy = Mob Rule... https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30683 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Twas supposed to be one person one vote. The subjects used to have votes but only the land owners votes counted. Seems why blood was spilled. Direct Democracy = Mob Rule... That's why you require super-majorities, like 75% of eligible voters. Say, how about this, 25% of voters can pass an item to reduce a budget deficit, e.g. cut spending, but 75% of voters are needed to increase it? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Going out on a high note? 1st the Israel uproar & now this: Russia What's he going to do for an encore? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Going out on a high note? ...so nothing to do with causing difficulties for an incoming president then... |
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