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Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Three years ago the State of New York passed a magazine limit on all firearms limiting them to 5 rounds. In New York City owners were required to register all firearms, and last year the NYPD sent letters to all who had registered to immediately turn in those legally owned and registered guns. This is the proof that the NRA tells lie's and b/s . You talk the talk but don't walk the walk hippocites . Both New York and Obama care had the same problem . Both are good things for America one saves lives buy allowing everyone to have health care the other will save lives buy reducing the death rate. They both have been stopped buy your Constitution . So both governments have done the only thing they could . try to bring in the reform by going around the Constitution . They only wished to remove the Assault rifles , not hand guns or shot guns but Military Assault rifles . Not some sinister plan to take all the guns away . Most governments from both sides have had to use this tactic to rule when you have a hostile Senate just to run the country . So i say again the NRA need to understand that they are part of the problem and should stop there B?s grow up and help solve the problem by either allowing Assault rifles to be banned or take the other thing and amend the 4th to have a exception just for guns and allow the police to do checks and all the police forces to share info for this one thing If you join the party then you will be able to protect you Freedoms and will gane credibility as a good and not a very dangerous organization run buy crim's and death merchants whom make guns You can judge a organization buy what it object's to and the NRA have only put forward objection's no solutions so the NRA are no better than the NAZI party witch also used FEAR to push there idea's and bigotry to the common people Objecting to Universal Health care and Gun control when both ideas will save lives shows the true colour of the organization and it's followers . |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Obviously you have formed very strong opinions on the subject Glenn and nothing anyone can say will change your mind. I'm sorry that's the case so let's just say we disagree on gun control. I don't mean to antagonize or enrage you, It is a very polarizing issue and it's something neither of us will change our mind on so lets move on. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
heheheheheClyde there is nothing worse than a woman with a gun when there angry Its not really funny, especially as statistically she is more likely to end up the victim of gun violence. (watch Clyde freak out because he doesn't understand what statistically means). For Women, Gun Violence Often Linked to Domestic Violence "Just as in previous years, we found the most common weapon men use to murder women is a gun. For homicides in which the murder weapon could be identified, 52 percent of victims were shot and killed with a gun. The most common firearm was a handgun, used in 69 percent of the homicides committed with guns." Yes, having a gun in the house is a really great idea. (sarcasm) Add to that the fact that statistically more cops or ex-cops are likely to be violent towards their partners... No, I don't think its funny at all. Reality Internet Personality |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
I do worry about the children, every-where, who always see guns. I agree. But I worry more about the constant bombardment by Hollywood, Video Games, Television and music all glorifying armed violence as the solution to every problem. Vendetta and vengeance for 'wrongs' done is a common and recurring theme and totally distorts rational behavior. This is partly where the 'I can't trust the Cops so I'll get a gun and make things right' attitude today comes from. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Ess i don't believe you can't see the funny side of Clyde's misses being a better shot than him . I wonder doe she put your uniform on to clyde or you to much of a nice Jewish boy to think like that . A bit of role playing , only make shore the guns are not loaded mate . |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
For Women, Gun Violence Often Linked to Domestic Violence It's not funny at all. Domestic Violence is a very big problem in all countries in the World. Now having lethal weapons in your home... Sometimes kids like my self have played with them. Luckily the service pistol my father had was not loaded. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Ess i don't believe you can't see the funny side of Clyde's misses being a better shot than him . The problem with guns is that you don't have to be a particularly good shot to hurt someone at close range. A child can kill someone using a gun. I would never have one in my home. Never. Reality Internet Personality |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Only in the USA, and terrorist states, does the ease of obtaining a firearm, and the ready availability of firearms, contribute to significanty higher homocide statistics. Actually when sorted by death per 100,000 population the US ranks 14th, with 10.04 per 100,000. Of those 10.04 firearm deaths 3.5 were homicides and 6.7 were suicide. That terrorist state South Africa had 21.5 deaths by firearm per 100,000 people with 17 being homicide. Tougher laws than the US with 3 times the homicide by firearm rate. In South Africa, only licensed gun owners may lawfully acquire, possess or transfer a firearm or ammunition. Genuine Reason Required for Firearm Possession Applicants for a gun owner’s licence in South Africa are required to establish a genuine reason to possess a firearm, for example hunting, target shooting, collection, personal protection, work. Minimum Age for Firearm Possession The minimum age for gun ownership in South Africa is 21 years, with some exceptions that may include the fact that the applicant conducts a business, is gainfully employed, a dedicated hunter, a dedicated sports person or a private collector. Gun Owner Background Checks An applicant for a firearm licence in South Africa must pass a background check which considers criminal, mental, medical, domestic violence, addiction, employment, and previous firearm licence. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
And yet, throughout the world, kids and youngsters, play video games and watch movies of a violent nature. I agree 100% with this post a very good one . |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Actually when sorted by death per 100,000 population the US ranks 14th, with 10.04 per 100,000. Of those 10.04 firearm deaths 3.5 were homicides and 6.7 were suicide. That terrorist state South Africa had 21.5 deaths by firearm per 100,000 people with 17 being homicide. Tougher laws than the US with 3 times the homicide by firearm rate. From the manifesto of the NRA witch use fear and lie's and misrepresented of quotes like " A arm society is a polite society " but forget about BECAUSE THERE ALL FEAR FULL OF A PERSON LOSING THERE TEMPER or in other words Freedom so long as you shut up and don't excerise your right to free speech because someone might lose there temper . What a joke . No solutions only objections witch shows there real motive . More same old same old more death and more profits from those deaths all so a few death merchants can make a few bucks and then laugh at all the suckers that believe there crap . No credibility at all until they prove what they say and come up with solutions |
The Simonator Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50 |
The problem with guns is that you don't have to be a particularly good shot to hurt someone at close range. A child can kill someone using a gun. Very true. Especially since so much 'instruction' about how to use one is plastered across the television and places like film posters. I do have one in the house, a .22LR rifle (for which i have a license of course) and it's kept in a locked strongbox in the back of a cupboard with the ammunition in a separate safe in a different room, as per the regs. The idea of leaving such a thing just lying about in a drawer horrifies me. Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
I do have one in the house, a .22LR rifle (for which i have a license of course) and it's kept in a locked strongbox in the back of a cupboard with the ammunition in a separate safe in a different room, as per the regs. I have shot a lot with a .22 (5.6 millimeter) Long Rifle when I was about 13, 14 years old. It is very popular as sporting and training shooting rifle; not least because of the low price and the convenient (weak) recoil. 22LR is used for example in biathlon and in the Swedish Home Guard youth. In hunting context it belongs in Sweden Class 4, meaning it can be used for hunting for crows. In sporting non metal jacket ammunition is used. For hunting full metal jacket ammunition is used with higher output speeds. There is also a variant with 1.3 mm lead shot, known as "rat buckshot". |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
I do have one in the house, a .22LR rifle (for which i have a license of course) and it's kept in a locked strongbox in the back of a cupboard with the ammunition in a separate safe in a different room, as per the regs. The US have a weird gun control IMO. There are countries in World that have more guns per capita then the US. Sweden:) Canada. Finland has 53 weapons per hundred person! And it has nothing to do with political orientations... |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
The USA has its own distinctive cultures (yes plural). The US is a big country with many peoples. For instance, if you compare New York, Washington, Miami, Texas, New Orleans, LA, Minnesota. Puerto Rico soon to become state 51. Then its almost like Europe:) |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
I would say you have to put the problem down to the weird gun control in the US. The country has a ridiculous amount of shootings compared to other western countries. If it isn't the gun laws, then there must be something wrong with Americans and they are a particularly murderous and violent people. I find that hard to believe and would rather think the problem is with the gun laws. Reality Internet Personality |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Most of the world, until recently, has had far more censorship of violence on TV and movies than the USA, especially for children's programming. Other countries also don't allow corporal punishment of children. Perhaps it isn't gun laws. Of course the fact that certified crazies are allowed to roam the streets here may account for some fraction of that. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
So you are still suggesting that Americans are more violent that other people? Reality Internet Personality |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
So you are still suggesting that Americans are more violent that other people? Americans:) Anyway its silly to think a nation is more violent than another. Well perhaps the balcan states but that is only my personal reflection. Most of the illegal weapons here comes from there. |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
So you are still suggesting that Americans are more violent that other people? We train 'em that way from an early age... The Problem: Youth Violence According to the United States Department of Justice ("DOJ"), law enforcement agencies arrested approximately 2.8 million juveniles in 1997. Of that number, 2,500 were arrested for murder and 121,000 for other violent crimes. Juveniles accounted for 19% of all arrests, 14% of murder arrests, and 17% of all violent crime arrests. According to DOJ, the number of juvenile violent crime arrests in 1997 exceeded the 1988 level by 49%. According to a recent survey by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 5.9% of high school students carried a gun in the 30 days prior to the survey. Eighteen percent of high school students now carry a knife, razor, firearm, or other weapon on a regular basis, and 9% of them take a weapon to school. A Principal Cause: Media Violence More at:http://www.indiana.edu/~cspc/ressenate.htm "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
A Principal Cause: Media Violence What? Are bad taste dangerous? So why do Hollywood and all other entertainment companies export this crap? |
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