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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Glenn. I found this. 3D Metal Printing. Rather Amazing. The Golden Age of 3D Metal Printing: 75.8 % Growth. http://3dprinting.com/materials/metal/ EOS has proven in the past that 3D printing of structural steel can reduce material consumption by 75% and CO2 emissions by 40%. 3D printing has, according to the firm, the potential to outperform any other traditional method of manufacturing structural steel in terms of sustainability, energy consumption, CO2 emissions, raw material efficiency, recycling, transportation of raw materials and manufactured goods, and many other dimensions. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
btw You cannot cast steel. Only iron. My mistake. I was thinking of an other process when writing that. It's called the Bessemer process. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Glenn. I found this. 3D Metal Printing. Rather Amazing. That one is more for the SOLUTIONS thread... Will add comment, thanks. Hopefully, the 3D-printing can pretty much eliminate the waste from machining and from underutilized/unneeded material. As an added bonus, you can get precision parts with aircraft-like strength-to-weight and all for low cost... Good way to go! All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Meanwhile, the natural world continues to respond to our continuing unnatural industrial scale rampant pollution: Signs of spring 'shifting' in trees ... A 200-year-old record from a Norfolk estate shows warmer springs are causing most woodland plants to leaf earlier. But warmer autumns are having the opposite effect on some species... ... The researchers predict that trees like the oak, which are normally cloaked in leaves relatively late in spring, will soon overtake trees such as the hawthorn and silver birch that traditionally leaf early. In the long-term, the survival of some woodland plants could be [are likely to be] affected as plants compete for light under the woodland canopy... All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Once again, 200 years is the lifespan of a Higgs Boson when considered on a timescale of 3 Billion years. Generalities cannot be made on such meager data. "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20289 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Such is the weight and momentum of water and the force of weather that we change at our peril for some areas: US sea level north of New York City 'jumped by 128mm' Sea levels along the northeast coast of the US rose by record levels during 2009-2010, a study has found. Sea levels north of New York City rose by 128mm in two years, according to a report in the journal, Nature Communications. Coastal areas will need to prepare for short term and extreme sea level events, say US scientists. Climate models suggest extreme sea level rises will become more common this century. "The extreme sea level rise event during 2009-10 along the northeast coast of North America is unprecedented during the past century,"... ... "There is strong evidence that the likelihood of such events has been increased by climate change, and that we should expect more such events in the future. "This example illustrates how individual extreme events are influenced by multiple factors - in this case the global rise of sea levels, regional changes in ocean circulation, and wind patterns."... What new levels of CO2 and oceans do we push with our continued excess industrial pollution?... All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
US sea level north of New York City 'jumped by 128mm' http://sealevel.colorado.edu/content/tide-gauge-sea-level Tide gauges may also move vertically with the region as a result of post-glacial rebound, tectonic uplift or crustal subsidence. This greatly complicates the problem of determining global sea level change from tide gauge data. Differences in global sea level estimates from tide gauge data usually reflect the investigator's approach in considering these vertical crustal movements. Ah, yes, free hand to be alarmist if you massage the data one way, and nothing at all if you massage the data another. The article itself if behind a pay wall so there is no way to know if the BBC is just printing alarmist FUD or not. (Alarmist FUD does sell advertising though.) |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
Finally Convinced Me, TheOneAndOnly1. Yes Sir Reee. I'm NO DENIER NOW. fO evA mO, I Be Fightin' Against DEM Industrial Scale Pollutin' mO fOs. fO shO. Yep May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
LMAOFOF! [Edit] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBdeCxJmcAo "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Weather can be very funny:) Pic from Saudi Arabia in december last year. Climate however... |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
LMAOFOF! Woodstock Festival 1969. If you remember that you where there then you wasn't there:) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30651 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
What to think, what to think ..... http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikecollins/2015/03/07/pseudo-science-and-the-age-of-irrationalism/ Pseudo science ignores the scientific method. It makes conclusions and then looks for facts to support the conclusions. In pseudoscience there is no healthy skepticism about fantastic claims, in fact there is an enthusiasm to accept untested personal testimony as a public truth ( as in the stories about UFOS). And Al Gore ... http://scienceline.org/2008/12/ask-rettner-sea-level-rise-al-gore-an-inconvenient-truth/ Some of the most memorable images from Al Gore’s movie, An Inconvenient Truth, are the graphics that show how rising ocean levels will dramatically alter our planet’s coastlines. As Greenland’s ice sheets collapse, Gore predicts that our shores will be flooded and sea-bordering cities will sink beneath the water leaving millions of people homeless. His narration tells the audience that, due to global warming, melting ice could release enough water to cause at 20-foot rise in sea level “in the near future.†http://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/wrong-al-gore-predicted-arctic-summer-ice-could-disappear-2013 A 2007 prediction that summer in the North Pole could be “ice-free by 2013†that was cited by former Vice President Al Gore in his Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech has proven to be off… by 920,000 square miles. And that widely repeated 97% of scientists number .... http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikecollins/2015/03/07/pseudo-science-and-the-age-of-irrationalism/ 84% percent of scientists think that humans are warming the planet by burning fossil fuels but only 49% of the public believes it. Human CO2 emmissions as the sole cause agent might even be true, but you don't "prove it" with "fantastic claims", in fact, that tends to disprove it! and make it pseudo science with as much validity as Japanese whale research. In real science how many experiments are need to give an answer different than the theory to disprove the theory? One? |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Ian Rutherford Plimer, is an Australian geologist, professor emeritus of earth sciences at the University of Melbourne, professor of mining geology at the University of Adelaide, and the director of multiple mineral exploration and mining companies. He has published 130 scientific papers, six books and edited the Encyclopedia of Geology. “Okay, here’s the bombshell. The volcanic eruption in Iceland , … Since its first spewing of volcanic ash has, in just FOUR DAYS, NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet – all of you. Of course, you know about this evil carbon dioxide that we are trying to suppress – it’s that vital chemical compound that every plant requires to live and grow and to synthesize into oxygen for us humans and all animal life. Read the rest at: http://www.ruthfullyyours.com/2013/07/17/a-million-years-of-climate-change-without-humans-and-co2-ian-ruthrford-plimer/ Puny Humans! :D .g "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
I Thinks he right. But it's not much we can do about them. Volcanoes are massive CO2 emitters. They have caused a lot of mayhay during the history and sometimes caused mass instinction. But not reducing our CO2 emissions means that it's going to be even worse. There is a btw supervolcano under Yellowstone Park. I Think its bigger than that one in Russia causing a mass instinction. |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
… Since its first spewing of volcanic ash has, in just FOUR DAYS, NEGATED EVERY SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2 emissions on our planet – all of you. SOTBLMFRAO! Dr. HOHUM Agrees! Been Looking Down @HuWOman-when Punies ain't Lookin'-and Up @HuWOman-since youse went BirdLike(you know, shatting All Oveeer dA Place), fO a Very Long Time. Still dA Whackos of CC not Gunna Care 'bout No Real Facts dat Matter. heeeheeeheee Erupts dA Volcano. Dumb HuWOman will continue TO WASTE TRILLIONs where 'it' Don't Count or Mean Anything. Tasty O2 CO2 CH4 will Always Be in My Big Big Big GULP. HOHUM, back to da DRum DRum of 'Life'. Yep May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
WASTE TRILLIONs where 'it' Don't Count or Mean Anything. The wast will be the trickle down through those 'greedy who govern' fingers where after each takes his/her 'share' the final reduced result is MILLIONS being spent on Ponzi Schemes of Moonbeams and Unicorn Farts to power an industrial society. The taxation of carbon emissions should be dedicated to getting humanity OFF THIS MUDBALL by establishing SELF-SUSTAINING colonies on Luna, Mars, Ceres(wouldn't it be cool if the reflection in the crater turns out to be a greenhouse dome?), Vesta and maybe other inner Dwarf Planets. And eventually worlds around other stars. Only by the insurance policy of the "fruit flies" spreading to other "apples" do we stand a chance of ultimate survival. The Earth WILL suffer cataclysms whether man made or hurled from deep space by an uncaring Universe. If mankind only exists here, when it is gone we are gone (Stegasaurus Steak anyone?). "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
This is an animated visualization of the startling decline of Arctic Sea Ice, showing the minimum volume reached every September since 1979, set on a map of New York with a 10km grid to give an idea of scale. It is clear that the trend of Arctic sea ice decline indicates that it'll be ice-free for an increasingly large part of the year, with consequences for the climate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuKVk1gMJDg&feature=youtu.be |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
This is an animated visualization of the startling decline of Arctic Sea Ice, showing the minimum volume reached every September since 1979, set on a map of New York with a 10km grid to give an idea of scale. It is clear that the trend of Arctic sea ice decline indicates that it'll be ice-free for an increasingly large part of the year, with consequences for the climate. Who want to take the first step? To me it seems that all countries are waiting for the others. Much is being done but is it enough? |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
We are in deep s..., and will have to 'adjust'. Or move......... "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/image/planetary/mars/hst_mars060.jpgWe are in deep s..., and will have to 'adjust'. There is a problem. Terraforming (literally, "Earth-shaping") of a planet, moon, or other body is the theoretical process of deliberately modifying its atmosphere, temperature, surface topography or ecology to be similar to the biosphere of Earth to make it habitable by Earth-like life. I Think we are terraforming the Earth right now in a bad way. So how could it be possible do it in a good way on an other planet? As an experiment we could first start making Sahara habitable... The long timescales and practicality of terraforming are the subject of debate. Other unanswered questions relate to the ethics, logistics, economics, politics, and methodology of altering the environment of an extraterrestrial world. http://se.depositphotos.com/35881885/stock-video-terraforming-mars.html |
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