Firearms. Who or what is dangerous?

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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10334 Credit: 5,112,013 RAC: 6,541	Message 1320314 - Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 4:46:41 UTC - in response to Message 1320187.
	(ANY FELONY ARREST) Arrest? Really? So when they drop the charges because it becomes obvious they have the wrong person you still can't own a gun. Hey, just arrest *everyone* and we have gun control! Unfortunately most of DUI's are only misdemeanors. A DUI is more than enough evidence that you aren't responsible, even if they drop it down to reckless. Frankly texting and driving is also evidence you aren't responsible enough to own a gun. After all a car can do as much damage as a gun so if you can't operate one in a responsible manner you shouldn't get the chance at the other. ____________
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Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 2071 Credit: 28,567 RAC: 3	Message 1320325 - Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 4:58:54 UTC Last modified: 27 Dec 2012, 5:02:44 UTC
	Never had a DUI. Haven't had a ticket since 1986 (9 miles over the limit). ;-) Never had a firearm accident---ever!
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soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6231 Credit: 27,521,657 RAC: 7,382	Message 1320363 - Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 7:40:39 UTC - in response to Message 1320202.
	Ya, I have a 5 round clip for my AR 14 and 15. Can't hunt in my own state with it but can to the left of me. Just another bit for your education. A clip should not to be confused with a Magazine. You are just showing your lack of knowledge, again. "The term clip is commonly used to describe a firearm magazine, especially in newspapers, movies, and on television. Because of this usage, the Merriam-Webster dictionary now defines a clip as "a device to hold cartridges for charging the magazines of some rifles; also :a magazine from which ammunition is fed into the chamber of a firearm". " from the linked article. It is the correct usage now regardless of the Wikipedia authors opinion. Historically you may have had a point. ____________ Janice
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WinterKnight Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6829 Credit: 17,177,780 RAC: 25,080	Message 1320372 - Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 8:05:45 UTC - in response to Message 1320363.
	Ya, I have a 5 round clip for my AR 14 and 15. Can't hunt in my own state with it but can to the left of me. Just another bit for your education. A clip should not to be confused with a Magazine. You are just showing your lack of knowledge, again. "The term clip is commonly used to describe a firearm magazine, especially in newspapers, movies, and on television. Because of this usage, the Merriam-Webster dictionary now defines a clip as "a device to hold cartridges for charging the magazines of some rifles; also :a magazine from which ammunition is fed into the chamber of a firearm". " from the linked article. It is the correct usage now regardless of the Wikipedia authors opinion. Historically you may have had a point. For very good reasons, in the military you use the correct terminology. Failure to learn the correct terminology will find you doing some very painful and tiring exersizes. Therefore in this case I and I am sure all the other military types will reject any wrong uses.
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soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6231 Credit: 27,521,657 RAC: 7,382	Message 1320375 - Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 8:30:46 UTC - in response to Message 1320372.
	[url] Therefore in this case I and I am sure all the other military types will reject any wrong uses.[/quote] Having never been Military, nor Paramilitary, I am going to go with the dictionary definition. It is the same thing. ____________ Janice
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Bathybius & Eozoon Nummulosphere Bound Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 1308 Credit: 2,387,357 RAC: 2,940	Message 1320420 - Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 12:57:20 UTC
	Clip ta de do da Clip ta de day. My O My what a beautiful day. Plenty of MoonShine on this Winter Night Hey! Clip ta de do da Clip ta de day. You see, Day can also mean Night. Since Most American Massacres happen during The Day, by American White Males, we need to get Rid Of DayTime and The American White Male. SOLVED! Got Magazine? Subscription? Good. DEMON...HOT Nights ____________
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Guy Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1183 Credit: 3,476,533 RAC: 638	Message 1320434 - Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 14:50:22 UTC
	Using incorrect or "assumed" terminology when handling a weapon leads to accidental discharges--which could lead to death. Responsible owners of firearms (knowing there are no do-overs when handling a weapon) learn the terminology. People cannot be instructed how to handle a weapon safely if they do not first learn the proper terminology. People who refuse to learn the proper terminology cannot handle a weapon safely and should not be allowed to own a weapon (let alone write laws about weapons). --- And yes Gary, I agree with you.
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Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 2071 Credit: 28,567 RAC: 3	Message 1320442 - Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 15:42:14 UTC
	Everyone is entitled to their opinion, however wrong it may be.
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Chris S Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Nov 00 Posts: 22841 Credit: 4,533,209 RAC: 5,616	Message 1320447 - Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 16:05:45 UTC
	I giveth with one hand, and take away with another :-)
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Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 2071 Credit: 28,567 RAC: 3	Message 1320451 - Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 16:17:55 UTC - in response to Message 1320447.
	I giveth with one hand, and take away with another :-) I growth knowledge from the stone. ;-)
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Chris S Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 19 Nov 00 Posts: 22841 Credit: 4,533,209 RAC: 5,616	Message 1320456 - Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 16:36:53 UTC
	Would that be kidney or gall? ;-)
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Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 2071 Credit: 28,567 RAC: 3	Message 1320458 - Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 16:41:20 UTC Last modified: 27 Dec 2012, 16:41:37 UTC
	Both, mostly from the gall. And there is a lot of gall. LOL!
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bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 1704 Credit: 13,318,283 RAC: 6,435	Message 1320467 - Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 17:12:51 UTC - in response to Message 1320187.
	Doctors (A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000. (B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are 120,000. (C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171 Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health and Human Services. Guns (A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000. (Yes, that's 80 million) (B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500. (C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .0000188 Statistics courtesy of FBI So, statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners. Nice stats, got links? ---------- http://www.ballerstatus.com/2012/07/24/ice-t-defends-bear-arms-guns-meant-protect-police/ "We need guns to protect yourself from the police." ---------- Diane Feinstein (Liberal Democrat) and Harry Reid (Liberal Democrat) have stated they've carried guns. If they can, why can't I? Who hear has argued that you cannot carry a gun? If somebody has, did that same person argue that Diane Feinstein and/or Harry Reid should be allowed? ____________ I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...
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bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 1704 Credit: 13,318,283 RAC: 6,435	Message 1320469 - Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 17:22:50 UTC - in response to Message 1320292.
	something else to consider is that calafornia and texas both are larger than most of the country's the us is being compared to and that is just 2, of 50 states as well as protectorate's What impact do you believe population size has on a rate of firearm fatalities per 100,000 of the population? It seems to me an argument could be made on population density could have an impact, though has some of the comparison nations have higher, and others lower population densities than the US, so it does not appear to be the primary cause for the higher rate in the US. ____________ I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...
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Gary Charpentier Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 10334 Credit: 5,112,013 RAC: 6,541	Message 1320472 - Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 17:38:04 UTC
	WHEN ARE WE GOING TO INSIST ON CRAZY CONTROL? http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=8933221 Woman sleeping on bus bench set on fire in Van Nuys VAN NUYS, LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- A homeless woman sleeping on a bus bench was set on fire in Van Nuys early Thursday morning, police said. The incident happened around 1 a.m. on Van Nuys Boulevard and Sherman Way. Police said the suspect walked into a Walgreens store, bought alcohol, walked to the bus bench, poured the alcohol on the victim and set her on fire. The suspect then ran from the scene, but a witness, Erickson Ipina, was able to chase him down. "I was following him and then I pulled out my cellphone. I called 911 and he just turned back on me and pulled out a knife, and he told me, 'Stop following me or I will cut you,'" said Ipina. But Ipina continued following the suspect until police arrived. Investigators said the suspect, whose identity has not been released, is not believed to be homeless. It's unclear if he knew the victim. Officials said the woman was badly burned. She was transported to a hospital with life-threatening injuries. ____________
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Guy Send message Joined: 3 Apr 99 Posts: 1183 Credit: 3,476,533 RAC: 638	Message 1320503 - Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 19:19:48 UTC
	http://recoveryfirst.org/alcohol-related-injuries-and-deaths-in-the-us.html/ In fact, alcohol related car accidents kill more people between the ages of 17 and 34 than any other cause. Alcohol is also closely associated with homicides, suicides, workplace injuries, domestic violence, assault, and complications and death resulting from alcohol related disease like cirrhosis of the liver. 13,846 fatal alcohol related crashes. This accounted for 37% of all traffic fatalities in the United States. When are we going to insist on stricter alcohol control?
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betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 1070 Credit: 2,016,050 RAC: 2,652	Message 1320509 - Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 19:23:19 UTC - in response to Message 1320434.
	Using incorrect or "assumed" terminology when handling a weapon leads to accidental discharges--which could lead to death. Responsible owners of firearms (knowing there are no do-overs when handling a weapon) learn the terminology. People cannot be instructed how to handle a weapon safely if they do not first learn the proper terminology. People who refuse to learn the proper terminology cannot handle a weapon safely and should not be allowed to own a weapon (let alone write laws about weapons). --- And yes Gary, I agree with you. Guy, I agree, terminology is important and in many more things than just firearms. ____________
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Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 2071 Credit: 28,567 RAC: 3	Message 1320532 - Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 20:43:24 UTC
	It would appear that all some here have is a aversion to the use of words. None have a real fix to the problem. So, the use of words are attacked as if that in and of itself is a fix to the problem. If your objection to the use of words is all you have then you have no fix to the problem and you become part the problem. Mental health is not dangerous if it's addressed. A firearm has never jumped up on it's own power and killed anyone. So, who or what is dangerous? Well the people who have a aversion to the use of words that describe the same object in question, example magazine and or clip, that is defined in the dictionary as being the same thing are dangerous to the liberties of a sane person. That is well defined by the posts here.
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WinterKnight Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6829 Credit: 17,177,780 RAC: 25,080	Message 1320536 - Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 20:50:34 UTC - in response to Message 1320532.
	A firearm has never jumped up on it's own power and killed anyone. one quick search and this jumped up. Man killed when gun is dropped at Harrisburg home
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Intelligent Design Send message Joined: 9 Apr 12 Posts: 2071 Credit: 28,567 RAC: 3	Message 1320541 - Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 21:11:35 UTC - in response to Message 1320536.
	A firearm has never jumped up on it's own power and killed anyone. one quick search and this jumped up. Man killed when gun is dropped at Harrisburg home You have a serious problem with understanding concepts. That was not under the firearms own power.
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