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Message 1268185 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 3:08:31 UTC - in response to Message 1268182.



Wonder how much tax he pays in a year?

Wonder how much of his tax dollars went to pay for roads and scoop snow off of them?

Wonder how much of the Hi-Way [federal] does he use for his biz?

Wonder how much of the state road system he uses for his biz?

ID, the answer to his taxes is that he pays, and gets his monies worth. The proof is that he is still in business!
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Message 1268186 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 3:11:33 UTC

A question I have is how many years were no taxes paid?


Little to None. I hope, I hope, I hope, I hope. I love when DEM/Libs get annoyed.

Please Twit, show The Masses you Paid Almost Nothing or Nothing. PLEASE!

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Message 1268189 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 3:16:55 UTC - in response to Message 1268185.



Wonder how much tax he pays in a year?

Wonder how much of his tax dollars went to pay for roads and scoop snow off of them?

Wonder how much of the Hi-Way [federal] does he use for his biz?

Wonder how much of the state road system he uses for his biz?

ID, the answer to his taxes is that he pays, and gets his monies worth. The proof is that he is still in business!


Then he paid for the road system just like I and everyone else does. Matter of fact, he might be paying more for the road system then any 10 of us. Does that mean he has more of a right to the road system then any 10 people?

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Message 1268193 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 3:53:13 UTC - in response to Message 1268189.

Of course if paid more taxes he had more rights -- because to pay more taxes he'd be making more money and if you have more money, you have more rights.




Then he paid for the road system just like I and everyone else does. Matter of fact, he might be paying more for the road system then any 10 of us. Does that mean he has more of a right to the road system then any 10 people?


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Message 1268208 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 4:19:40 UTC

Of course if paid more taxes he had more rights -- because to pay more taxes he'd be making more money and if you have more money, you have more rights.


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Message 1268211 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 4:27:08 UTC - in response to Message 1268193.
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Of course if paid more taxes he had more rights -- because to pay more taxes he'd be making more money and if you have more money, you have more rights.




Then he paid for the road system just like I and everyone else does. Matter of fact, he might be paying more for the road system then any 10 of us. Does that mean he has more of a right to the road system then any 10 people?




Is that really your answer? Or are you sore at me?

You know I believe that rights are God Given. As well you know that I believe that them rights are given equally to all.

Would you like to answer again the question?

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Message 1268230 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 5:46:07 UTC - in response to Message 1268189.

ID, no I posit he benefited from the roads at a greater proportion than he paid. This is a mindless discussion, until an a rather complex analysis is done this entire subject is just hot air.
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Message 1268247 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 6:18:32 UTC - in response to Message 1268181.

President Obama? An airhead? Really?


Wouldn't know about that.

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No record of this either...


B.A., Political Science, COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY, 1983

No record of this either.

No record of his birth on U.S. soil either.


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Message 1268248 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 6:19:06 UTC - in response to Message 1268211.

Fair enough, sounds like you have come down on the side of the left with regards to health care and immigration then.




You know I believe that rights are God Given.


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Message 1268355 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 12:58:05 UTC - in response to Message 1268230.

ID, no I posit he benefited from the roads at a greater proportion than he paid. This is a mindless discussion, until an a rather complex analysis is done this entire subject is just hot air.



Then it's O-K to accuse without that detailed analysis?

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Message 1268357 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 12:59:27 UTC - in response to Message 1268247.

President Obama? An airhead? Really?


Wouldn't know about that.

EDUCATION:
J.D., Magna Cum Laude, HARVARD LAW SCHOOL, 1991


No record of this.
President, Harvard Law Review (first African-American ever elected)


No record of this either...


B.A., Political Science, COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY, 1983

No record of this either.

No record of his birth on U.S. soil either.


You need some better news sources...



He was only a part time teacher a Chicago U.

And not very damn good at all at teaching the Constitution.

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Message 1268358 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 13:00:08 UTC - in response to Message 1268248.

Fair enough, sounds like you have come down on the side of the left with regards to health care and immigration then.




You know I believe that rights are God Given.





What has lead you to that conclusion?

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Message 1268393 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 15:24:28 UTC - in response to Message 1268357.

Ah -- so you were there at law school then.



He was only a part time teacher a Chicago U.

And not very damn good at all at teaching the Constitution.

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Message 1268394 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 15:26:37 UTC - in response to Message 1268358.

Well, unless you believe the Constitution was god given, and the interpretation of rights by humans is god given, there is to intervention between god and rights. That being the case, it would be difficult for you (or anyone) to set boundaries regarding rights.


Fair enough, sounds like you have come down on the side of the left with regards to health care and immigration then.




You know I believe that rights are God Given.





What has lead you to that conclusion?

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Message 1268446 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 17:30:57 UTC - in response to Message 1268393.

Ah -- so you were there at law school then.



He was only a part time teacher a Chicago U.

And not very damn good at all at teaching the Constitution.



No, but it doesn't take a lawyer to understand that you need to close our borders and not let firearms walk across that border when there is a war going on in that country.

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Message 1268460 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 17:49:44 UTC - in response to Message 1268394.

Well, unless you believe the Constitution was god given, and the interpretation of rights by humans is god given, there is to intervention between god and rights. That being the case, it would be difficult for you (or anyone) to set boundaries regarding rights.


The God given rights where laid out in the Declaration of Independence, a reminder to a king that he was not in control of rights.

Interpretation is in the Bible, mostly the Old Test. But, not all of the interpretation is in the Old Test.

It isn't the case that there is intervention about rights. It is clear that everyone has the right to life, liberty, and to chase happiness as they see fit.

Freedom of Speech, Press, Religion and Petition

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Right to keep and bear arms

A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.


Conditions for quarters of soldiers

No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.


Right of search and seizure regulated

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


Provisons concerning prosecution

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation.


Right to a speedy trial, witnesses, etc.

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.


Right to a trial by jury

In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.


Excessive bail, cruel punishment

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.


Rule of construction of Constitution

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.


Rights of the States under Constitution

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


All of these rights have a root in the Bible, both Old and New Test. The root cannot be ignored because of the original intent of constitution. Intent is in the federalist papers and in these papers we find original intent.

Rights are retained by the people, not by our government. The Constitution is in effect a CONTRACT that We the People have with our Government. The government cannot breach that contract without our approval. If they do that is called treason and we can put to death anyone found guilty of that.

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Message 1268502 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 19:22:49 UTC - in response to Message 1268446.

I see, and he taught that at the classes you didn't attend while you weren't there?

Ah -- so you were there at law school then.



He was only a part time teacher a Chicago U.

And not very damn good at all at teaching the Constitution.



No, but it doesn't take a lawyer to understand that you need to close our borders and not let firearms walk across that border when there is a war going on in that country.

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Message 1268504 - Posted: 6 Aug 2012, 19:26:12 UTC - in response to Message 1268502.

ID so you cite the constitution as having derived directly from the old testament -- now where's my concubine these days.

The point being with that smarmy remark that you are relying on interpretations -- we all do. The difference for you is that you insist your reading is based on what you read and understand of the bible and that alternative understandings are unholy.

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Message 1268767 - Posted: 7 Aug 2012, 14:06:40 UTC - in response to Message 1268504.
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I like how ID claims that owning a gun is a God given right. Sez who? I recall them being inalienable, but never God given
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Message 1268809 - Posted: 7 Aug 2012, 23:35:06 UTC - in response to Message 1268502.

I see, and he taught that at the classes you didn't attend while you weren't there?

Ah -- so you were there at law school then.



He was only a part time teacher a Chicago U.

And not very damn good at all at teaching the Constitution.



No, but it doesn't take a lawyer to understand that you need to close our borders and not let firearms walk across that border when there is a war going on in that country.



Nope, I wasn't. But Barry wasn't either...

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