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Sten-Arne Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 1 Nov 08 Posts: 2682 Credit: 7,586,505 RAC: 23,552	Message 1008372 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 23:28:17 UTC - in response to Message 1008371. Last modified: 25 Jun 2010, 23:29:37 UTC
	Or send a check by mail http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/donate_bymail.php No, it's very simple this really. Unless they accept PayPal they will not get any donations from me. My interpretation of the "no PayPal" issue, is that they simply do not want my money (maybe they're not desperate enough yet). Then so be it. That is not open to negotiations, or alternatives. ____________ /The grumpy old Swede. "I'm so old, that 98% of all trees in the forest, are younger than I am"
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soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6231 Credit: 27,499,903 RAC: 11,516	Message 1008373 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 23:28:23 UTC - in response to Message 1008367.
	But for SETI, I prefer to use my Visa debit card - smaller fee charged by the handling company, better exchange rate (did someone say it was good at the moment? Must check - I'm getting close to star renewal date), and no problems at all in previous years. Well I do not have any credit card, I refuse using credit cards, having the perhaps unusual philosophy in todays society, that if I do not have the money to buy things, then maybe I shouldn't buy them at all. My VISA card is a debit card, but as I said, I refuse to give out my card details online. Logging in to my bank though, I can easily transfer money to my PayPal account, but since SETI doesn't accept PayPal payment, then they obviously does not want my money. Funny, I feel the same way when it is paypal ONLY. I can not speak for where you are, but many stores offer "pre-paid" debit cards. They are expensive to use but the idea is you can buy a card with a $50 balance(for example) and then run it down, and throw it out. It does not attach to you personally. ____________ Janice
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perryjay Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3359 Credit: 9,611,335 RAC: 10,023	Message 1008376 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 23:35:37 UTC - in response to Message 1008373.
	I believe some card companies can also give you a one time card number. Use it one time and then the number is no longer valid. Not sure exactly how it works as I've never tried it myself. Or you could get a paypal debit card. ____________ PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC
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Miep Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 23 Jul 99 Posts: 2399 Credit: 339,635 RAC: 0	Message 1008391 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 23:53:14 UTC - in response to Message 1008358.
	But for SETI, I prefer to use my Visa debit card - smaller fee charged by the handling company, better exchange rate (did someone say it was good at the moment? Must check - I'm getting close to star renewal date), and no problems at all in previous years. May I point out, that while the standard british bank card (debit card) usually comes with complete credit card number to use in such transactions, this is not the norm on the continent? While german bank cards work nicely in foreign ATMs (well nowadays at least), they do not double as credit cards. Also german credit cards incur a yearly fee, and will usually be debited to your account once a month. (That's at least how my german one works) Consequently, most germans - unless they travel a lot or do lots of online transactions outside germany - will not have a credit card. That does not leave you with a lot of options. And no, cheques are not an option. They were phased out when paying with card&PIN was introduced. a) This information may be outdated. I've been an economic refugee to the UK for the past years ;) b) There must be a workaround, I see a number of green stars in the vicinity of german flags :) c) off topic: It may seem unpatriotic, but I would prefer England to win on Sunday. I prefer not to be lynched at work come Monday. ____________ Carola ------- I'm multilingual - I can misunderstand people in several languages!
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soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6231 Credit: 27,499,903 RAC: 11,516	Message 1008395 - Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 23:55:54 UTC - in response to Message 1008391.
	they call them "gift cards" with the visa/mc/amex emblem on them. There are still debit cards, which you should be very careful using on the internet and elsewhere. ____________ Janice
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Josef W. Segur Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Oct 99 Posts: 3930 Credit: 934,263 RAC: 14	Message 1008406 - Posted: 26 Jun 2010, 0:12:50 UTC - in response to Message 1008226.
	Works in IE8, but I normally don't have a toolbar and this toolbar is very ugly + uses yahoo for searching, I use google... Yes, it uses Yahoo and that won't get quite as many hits as Google. But I've found if I've chosen good search keywords it works pretty well. When it fails I can always try Google, but so far I've seldom needed to do that. Opera, which is my browser of choice, doesn't support the toolbar and I didn't want one anyhow. Simply adding "http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=%s" to Opera's list of search engines (with "o" as the key since "g" is already used for Google) took care of it for my purposes. I also have a bookmark to eBay via Goodshop using "http://www.goodsearch.com/goshop.aspx?id=28". That takes me to www.ebay.com so it takes one more click on "Sign in" or "my eBay" to get signed in, I'm quite willing to to do that extra step to benefit S@H. Note that the percentage eBay passes to Goodsearch is a percentage of their fees on a completed transaction, so it's not a huge dollar amount. Yet my usual Spring shopping (after the snow and ice have gone and deliveries to my house are possible) seems to have made a bulge in the amounts shown for April and May (and also searches during the same period to decide whether something was worth bidding on). Joe
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Geek@Play Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 31 Jul 01 Posts: 2414 Credit: 79,016,596 RAC: 0	Message 1008440 - Posted: 26 Jun 2010, 1:26:05 UTC - in response to Message 1008372.
	Or send a check by mail http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/donate_bymail.php No, it's very simple this really. Unless they accept PayPal they will not get any donations from me. My interpretation of the "no PayPal" issue, is that they simply do not want my money (maybe they're not desperate enough yet). Then so be it. That is not open to negotiations, or alternatives. I have the opposite view. I keep getting email to update my PayPal account but I have never had a PayPal account. So for me PayPal is a no-no. I have never had a problem using a credit card on the internet. I did have my ATM card violated when a clerk went out of my sight and wrote down the numberes. She was charging on the internet that night. Next morning the card was invalidated and the charges removed from my account. Visa charge card works good at Seti. I am a proud SETI supporter here. ____________ Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....
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Sten-Arne Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 1 Nov 08 Posts: 2682 Credit: 7,586,505 RAC: 23,552	Message 1008449 - Posted: 26 Jun 2010, 1:46:53 UTC - in response to Message 1008440.
	I have the opposite view. I keep getting email to update my PayPal account but I have never had a PayPal account. So for me PayPal is a no-no. But examining the full headers of such emails will show that they are not coming from PayPal. Those are mass phishing emails, sent out to millions of random email addresses, some have a PayPal account, most doesn't, and some of those who actually have a PayPal account, are dumb enough to actually provide their login data to the phishing criminals. I have never had a problem using a credit card on the internet. I did have my ATM card violated when a clerk went out of my sight and wrote down the numberes. She was charging on the internet that night. Next morning the card was invalidated and the charges removed from my account. Visa charge card works good at Seti. I am a proud SETI supporter here. Well, my principle stands, I will never ever use my debit card on the Internet, for purchasing anything. ____________ /The grumpy old Swede. "I'm so old, that 98% of all trees in the forest, are younger than I am"
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uli Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 6 Feb 00 Posts: 8027 Credit: 3,736,276 RAC: 3,365	Message 1008462 - Posted: 26 Jun 2010, 2:40:19 UTC
	Everytime you forward those e-mails to Paypal, they nip them in the butt. Thank you all for your contributions. You have no clue on how much it takes to run this project, besides our massive personal electricity usage. ____________ Pluto will always be a planet to me. Cash Donation Specialist
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Pappa Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 9 Jan 00 Posts: 2562 Credit: 12,301,681 RAC: 0	Message 1008469 - Posted: 26 Jun 2010, 3:25:13 UTC - in response to Message 1008372.
	Or send a check by mail http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/donate_bymail.php No, it's very simple this really. Unless they accept PayPal they will not get any donations from me. My interpretation of the "no PayPal" issue, is that they simply do not want my money (maybe they're not desperate enough yet). Then so be it. That is not open to negotiations, or alternatives. The last I heard... Shortly after that it was published that SEti@home will be doing PayPal. A portion of what has happened is that Seti User in the there small donations month after month have impressed those in the Finance Department. Each of you that donates time after time has demonstrated that Seti should be considered. So what I understood was UCB Web Developers had to come up with a "compatible" interface to allow PayPal. Becuase it is not a fully funded programming project is it put off, put off and still on the when they get time list. Those that are currently donating in the Comments Please put in the words to the effect... "Paypal would be nice!" ____________ Please consider a Donation to the Seti Project.
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Siran d'Vel'nahr Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 5621 Credit: 3,501,016 RAC: 2,673	Message 1008659 - Posted: 26 Jun 2010, 16:46:56 UTC - in response to Message 1008232.
	-[ snip ]- Joe" i'm making this sticky but you ignore the fact most of the ACTIVE participants also see the mis management & lack of accountability by said management. Many of whom have been abused by the cheer leaders for even commenting. Greetings Robert, [off-topic] Your posting style looks oddly familiar. A style I haven't seen in a couple 3 years. I just do not remember the source from back then... [/off-topic] I will have to give Goodsearch some consideration. My 2 issues with it are: It's a toolbar and I hate toolbars It uses Yahoo! for its search engine, I use Google exclusively I suppose that if it has "Enable/Disable" functions I can enable it when I want to donate and disable it when I want to use Google. Then I won't have a toolbar cluttering my screen all the time. Keep on BOINCing...! :) ____________ CMDR Siran d'Vel'nahr XO USS Vre'kasht NCC-33187 Siran's website: [ ONLINE! ]
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rob smith Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 5419 Credit: 20,232,086 RAC: 123,430	Message 1008677 - Posted: 26 Jun 2010, 18:12:13 UTC
	Well any donation is better than none, so until UBCA or whoever see the light and sort out a PayPal interface a donation by searching using Goodsearch is better than no donation. ____________ Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?
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Raistmer Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 2541 Credit: 25,540,329 RAC: 41,640	Message 1008769 - Posted: 26 Jun 2010, 22:49:23 UTC
	PayPal would be nice, it's true! :) BTW, could Goodsearch's eBay access be used simultaneously with let say Ebates or Bing ?
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Raistmer Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 2541 Credit: 25,540,329 RAC: 41,640	Message 1008790 - Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 0:07:10 UTC - in response to Message 1008406.
	Simply adding "http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=%s" to Opera's list of search engines (with "o" as the key since "g" is already used for Google) took care of it for my purposes. Joe[/pre] How Goodsearch will know if search done via such link what charity to support? And second question, what should be done to add Goodsearc supporting SETI charity as default search provider in IE8 ? (to allow search w/o their own toolbar)
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soft^spirit Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 6231 Credit: 27,499,903 RAC: 11,516	Message 1008823 - Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 3:38:53 UTC
	baring paypal (I will never have an account with them again.. long story) Most credit card providers will probably be happy to charge gift cards to your account.. in 20/50/100/? increments I believe. I would be amazed if they were un-available in europe. While not free they can be useful.. and certainly cheaper than some of the exchange fees mentioned here. ____________ Janice
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Josef W. Segur Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Oct 99 Posts: 3930 Credit: 934,263 RAC: 14	Message 1008844 - Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 6:16:14 UTC - in response to Message 1008790. Last modified: 27 Jun 2010, 6:17:48 UTC
	Simply adding "http://www.goodsearch.com/search.aspx?keywords=%s" to Opera's list of search engines (with "o" as the key since "g" is already used for Google) took care of it for my purposes. Joe[/pre] How Goodsearch will know if search done via such link what charity to support? And second question, what should be done to add Goodsearc supporting SETI charity as default search provider in IE8 ? (to allow search w/o their own toolbar) To get started you just go to www.goodsearch.com where there's a place to enter the charity you want to support. It's a search function of the charities they have listed, just seti@home will find the right one. Then you confirm it's what you want and they set a cookie in your browser. After that all searches you do through them, or using their links to go to one of their shopping partners, etc. will generate revenue for the chosen charity unless you specifically change to another charity. I can't answer concerning IE8, don't have it and don't want it. My daily driver is Win98SE so I doubt it would even install. Joe
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Raistmer Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 2541 Credit: 25,540,329 RAC: 41,640	Message 1008858 - Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 7:48:40 UTC - in response to Message 1008844.
	Then you confirm it's what you want and they set a cookie in your browser. After that all searches you do through them, or using their links to go to one of their shopping partners, etc. will generate revenue for the chosen charity unless you specifically change to another charity. I can't answer concerning IE8, don't have it and don't want it. My daily driver is Win98SE so I doubt it would even install. Joe Ok, thanks. That is, if I already used their toolbar in IE8 properly configured on SETI cookie was set already so I can just add corresponding URL in search providers list.
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JohnDK Send message Joined: 28 May 00 Posts: 756 Credit: 20,343,870 RAC: 36,467	Message 1008900 - Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 14:11:26 UTC - in response to Message 1008858.
	Then you confirm it's what you want and they set a cookie in your browser. After that all searches you do through them, or using their links to go to one of their shopping partners, etc. will generate revenue for the chosen charity unless you specifically change to another charity. I can't answer concerning IE8, don't have it and don't want it. My daily driver is Win98SE so I doubt it would even install. Joe Ok, thanks. That is, if I already used their toolbar in IE8 properly configured on SETI cookie was set already so I can just add corresponding URL in search providers list. When you install the Goodsearch toolbar it's doesn't add Goodsearch in the IE8 search providers list, but you simply install the IE plugin on the GS install page.
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perryjay Send message Joined: 20 Aug 02 Posts: 3359 Credit: 9,611,335 RAC: 10,023	Message 1008907 - Posted: 27 Jun 2010, 14:43:23 UTC - in response to Message 1008900. Last modified: 27 Jun 2010, 14:45:54 UTC
	When you install the Goodsearch toolbar it's doesn't add Goodsearch in the IE8 search providers list, but you simply install the IE plugin on the GS install page. The same thing works with firefox, install the plugin and it adds it to the dropdown list. When you use it it donates to the charity (SETI) you picked on the Goodsearch homepage. ____________ PROUD MEMBER OF Team Starfire World BOINC
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Geek@Play Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 31 Jul 01 Posts: 2414 Credit: 79,016,596 RAC: 0	Message 1009923 - Posted: 30 Jun 2010, 10:25:10 UTC
	I see so many excuses for not donating financially to SETI. The most often used is.......... I give my time and I pay for the electricity to run Boinc and SETI on my computers. So I am already donating to SETI. I do not accept that a further financial donation is required from me. What they fail to understand is that everyone here gives that same time and money for electricity and computers to run Boinc on. In this respect we are all giving to SETI. Some more than others depending on the number of machines each has but we are all donating to SETI. Now comes financial donations which are vital to the future well being of the SETI project. Let's face the facts here. A financial participation rate of 0.23% of the crunchers is dismal by any standards and sets up the SETI project for failure. We see the effects of this dismal donation rate all the time. Berkeley's servers can go down at any time when no one is in the office. They can go down and they do go down. Who knows if it's hardware or software related, the fact is, Berkeley's servers cannot run without constant human intervention. Server hardware, personal to run SETI, all take money. Funding for SETI cannot come from Boinc development. If SETI cannot suport itself then there are plenty of other small projects that Boinc can use for it's development. Boinc development does NOT require or need SETI. Boinc only requires a test project and that could be any project. A SETI project downtime of 3 days per week? What I hear is that Boinc does not need SETI any longer. What I hear is that SETI is slowing down Boinc development. What I hear is that the SETI project is no longer viable. What I hear is that SETI can no longer be supported by Boinc. So the question remains. How devoted are you to finding ET? How devoted are you to the SETI project? Are you devoted enough to make a financial donation of 5 cents per day? How about a donation of .38 cents per week? Both of these mean making a donation of $20.00 USD per year. Is the SETI project worth $20.00 per year to you? How about $50.00 per year? As I see it, if SETI does not support itself then the SETI project will die. Boinc does not need or require the SETI project. ____________ Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....
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