Panic Mode On (33) Server problems

1. Which is where you (plural, not Andy alone) come in. Complain, comment, don't comply, tell how to do it better. Tell it to the developers themselves, do not expect of them to trawl through 40 threads looking for your post. And of course, comments like "dictatorship", "this is ****" and "test it better" are best left behind. On the latter, they're testing it here in a live environment just to see what could go wrong.

4. I actually like that. The biggest problem was always that people expected the claimed credit to be theirs, no matter what. OK, you won't get fun threads anymore that you claimed 17 trillion credits, but let's be honest, the method in which the claimed credit is calculated isn't in use here anymore (time * benchmarks).

Quota
Quota is only counting MB tasks, but applying quota limit to all tasks, therefore I cannot download AP tasks.
Quota not being reset at end of 24 hour period, think this is PDT time but it didn't happen at UTC today either. Therefore my quota, and presumably others also, now into its third day.
(expecting more complaints on this as most people seem to run 2 or 3 day caches)

Oh Boy, do you have some reading ahead of you :-) (and commiserations on the Hayfever)

Ta, but I am not going to read all. There's this handy "Mark all threads read" button at the top. :-)

And hitting the 'ignore' button is gonna fix things, eh?

Nice attitude.

Sorry? Why attack me over this? I don't work here, I run Seti on some of my systems and I try completely voluntarily try to help people with their BOINC troubles. I am not responsible for the code or its introduction, while due to me installing a completely new system I for once am away while new things are introduced around here.

Including this thread there are 35 threads in this forum alone about this problem. I don't have the need to read them all. If that's not good enough for you, then tough!

But be as it may, I'll stop posting and try to help clear things a little. Things I picked up, things as I see them from my perspective. Have a good rest of the day and continue in your struggle to anticipate changes.

1 & 2. The identification of apps should have been the first step with nothing more done until it was accurate.

Quota,
The quota should be per application, and therefore 1 & 2 apply.

3 & 4. Richard effectively answered that.
5. Credits for AP, because of Eric's modifying flop count method are at ~800cr.

Brodo answered what I was going to say about extra tasks downloaded, i.e. we no longer know how much is asked for.

All, Mark knows best. He'll fix it.

Can we all just calm down and take 5 please. No-one is slighting anyone intentionally, just voicing opinions.

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18/06/2010 11:40:31 SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
18/06/2010 11:40:31 SETI@home Requesting new tasks for GPU
18/06/2010 11:40:36 SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
18/06/2010 11:40:36 SETI@home Message from server: Project has no jobs available


RED servers ^^


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SETI@Home Informational message -9 result_overflow
with a general handicap of 80% and it makes much d' efforts for the community and s' expimer, thank you d' to be understanding.

Oh Dear:

WU waiting to validate 43000 and climbing - according to status page one of the validators is down.

So the trickle of work people are getting from quota going up from valid taks will be even smaller.
And it's still a few hours till the guys get in.

There are now so many small fires to put out, it starts looking like the forest is up in flames.

Intressting dilemma: will people be angrier if they fix on the fly (and introduce other problems or we just can't see the fixes quickly enough to appease the community) or if they shut down for another day?

Seems that nerves are so frayed even the most patient of us are having a hard time.
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From Matt's 6/16 post

I know most of you who read these updates know this already, but it bears repeating: nobody working directly on SETI@home (all 5 of us) works full time, and we all have enough other things going on that make it impossible for us to be "on call" in case of outage/emergencies. In my case, I currently have four regular separate sources of income with jobs/gigs in four completely different industries (covering all the bases in case one or more dry up). As for last night, when the httpd problems arose, I was working elsewhere, and when I checked in again around 10:30pm everyone else was asleep and I didn't want to start up the scheduler processes without others' input as they were still effectively on the operating table. We're pretty much given up any hope for 24/7 uptime, but BOINC takes care of that as long as you sign up for other projects.

Well, I, for one, have calmed down.
I have to resign myself to the fact that since I have chosen to crunch Seti, and Seti only, I must accept the downtime of the project gracefully.

And there will be some times when my rigs cannot get enough work on hand to keep them running during extended or sequential project failures.

Such is what I have chosen to do.

Welcome to life in Setiland.
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As it is kitten, so shall it be done.

Well, I, for one, have calmed down.
I have to resign myself to the fact that since I have chosen to crunch Seti, and Seti only, I must accept the downtime of the project gracefully.

And there will be some times when my rigs cannot get enough work on hand to keep them running during extended or sequential project failures.

Such is what I have chosen to do.

Welcome to life in Setiland.

Well, I, for one, have calmed down.
I have to resign myself to the fact that since I have chosen to crunch Seti, and Seti only, I must accept the downtime of the project gracefully.

And there will be some times when my rigs cannot get enough work on hand to keep them running during extended or sequential project failures.

Such is what I have chosen to do.

Welcome to life in Setiland.

Mark, that is the most marvellous post I think I have ever seen you make. I always knew it was worth believing in you.

Take care now.

Chris S.

funny msg:

21.06.2010 08:19:04 [error] Error reported by file upload server: Server is out of disk space

its no wonder with over 1 million unvalidated WU

Had to happen sooner or later.
If the validators are switched off then the results are not been transferred to the science database. So no space is being emptied to make room for further uploads.