Out of the fire and into the pit of sulfuric acid. (Feb 19, 2010)
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Message boards : Technical News : Out of the fire and into the pit of sulfuric acid. (Feb 19, 2010)
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Humm I find this interesting I believe that UCB is suspose to have some of the best computer hardware and software personel available. I guess not. | |
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haahaa, i guess it is like the rest of california, they are broke!!! and think the rest of the nation should pay for their over spending, or lack of taxation; how ever you wish to look at it. | |
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 [seti.international] Philip J. Fry Volunteer tester  Send message Joined: 6 Apr 07 Posts: 6567 Credit: 50,748,899 RAC: 20,253  | |
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... I'm not disagreeing, or saying that donations should be mandatory. It's just that the $6k donation, while significant, isn't something that SETI can spend on better "stuff." I have a green star because I don't choose to spend $6k in electricity. ____________ | |
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SETI really isn't a UCB thing. It's just housed in an old closet at UCB and the support volunteers are generally UCB students. UCB does not provide anything other than some network bandwidth, power and whatever cooling happens to be available in that closet. If SETI is lucky they may get someone's old castoff hardware that may still be marginally functional. These volunteers do a wonderful job with what they have to work with. We should be thanking them for their efforts and personally I do thank them. | |
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The recent problems made it more than obvious that the projects needs some serious funding. | |
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No thank you, i already donate at least $6,ooo.oo a year in cpu time. they need to find appropriate funding, or just fold (pun intended). either i'm fine with, put just don't continue the way they are. You must have terrible utility rates. I have double the number of computers running BOINC as you show, some at home and some at the office, and my combined utility expense, which includes non-BOINC things such as lights, TV, pool pump and refridgerator, barely tops $6,000 a year. ____________ | |
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people are upset because, by nature, we are competitive. if they want to stop the complaining about down time, then remove the WHOLE CREDIT SYSTEM completely. until then they have to listen to it. i've made my position clear, no money. next you guys will be suggesting that you have to pay to crunch work. you all are starting to sound like progressives. ____________   | |
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i've made my position clear, no money. next you guys will be suggesting that you have to pay to crunch work. you all are starting to sound like progressives. In fact that's what many of us already do. When we pay our utility bills for our 100-300 watt graphic cards. So why not spend 5 bucks more and donate? | |
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I live in a pseudo dorm, so no electric bill for me. Muhahahaha. Just kidding all I have is the one computer anyway :^) Here is the trace from Lowell, MA USA. | |
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people are upset because, by nature, we are competitive. if they want to stop the complaining about down time, then remove the WHOLE CREDIT SYSTEM completely. until then they have to listen to it. A progressive would provide equal credit to everybody. ____________ | |
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The recent problems made it more than obvious that the projects needs some serious funding. I agree, I'll donate 50 euros tomorrow and challenge all off you to do the same ! I just spent 1600 on some new components and I know I'm not the only one... so who will do the same and donate ? | |
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I just spent 1600 on some new components and I know I'm not the only one... so who will do the same and donate ? Not me.... I just donated for February 2010. ____________  I DONATE money to SETI@home.... DO YOU? I'm just slowly BOINC'ing along. Hey... ET... you have a sister who likes earthlings? | |
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It would appear that things are getting better. My computers are now uploading faster than they are completing and the pathping statistics for the past 36 hours show 50% fewer lost packets than the same period 24 hours ago. Things should be back to normal...just in time for Tuesday's scheduled outage. | |
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Many have offered their own opinions as to why the project is down. I have not seen this possibility mentioned.
I am suggesting that they are busy in the background, splitting the database up between Seti@Home and Astropulse. And this background activity is slowing all database activity and this will continue until the background operation is completed. Thus no response from Berkeley on the problem as there is little that can be done at this time until the operation completes. This is of course IMHO. ____________ Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc.... | |
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I would like to know why the project personnel is often referred to as volunteers by many posters ? If I remember right there was 180,000.00 in the last budget for "salaries". Even devided by 8 people that's more than I make. | |
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$180,000.00 divided by 8 is $22,500.00 per year. That's not | |
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I would like to know why the project personnel is often referred to as volunteers by many posters ? If I remember right there was 180,000.00 in the last budget for "salaries". Even devided by 8 people that's more than I make. What you see in your pay envelop is only a small part of what most people are payed for their work. Sometimes the cost to a company to hire a new person is almost double what they pay the worker. Also, in California teachers and school workers are well payed because it is a costly place to live and unions have driven hard bargains. For 4 people that's $45,000 each for the payed people. Thats very little for someone to do what they do. I would expect cost to be between $60k and $90k each so I suspect some of the people are part time. I do hope you can find a better job because unless you are sharing expenses with someone else, $23k is very little to live on. ____________ | |
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Don't worry about it. With a little luck they will get it cleared tomorrow. You will not lose credit, it's just a little delayed. | |
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Message boards : Technical News : Out of the fire and into the pit of sulfuric acid. (Feb 19, 2010)
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