Having studied what was done by people professing to be Christians, one can only conclude they did not have a New International Version back then. Actually they did not have the King James or any other Bible back then. How can someone who professes to be a Christian not follow the New Testament?

Thankfully Christopher Columbus is/was Catholic and not a Muslim.

I think you have inadvertently opened the wrong door in your search for evidence to back your claims.

Columbus, and his crimes against humanity are very well documented.
Were he alive today, he'd be standing before the World Court facing charges for his part in these crimes.

The indigenous peoples of the New World were raped, enslaved and murdered for sport by this good follower of Christ.
His own log books contain vast amounts of evidence to his crimes.

He's not the man we all read about in our school books.
His legacy is one of death, destruction and great anguish to every person he encountered in his travels.

What crime? I didn't realize that Sailing west looking for a route to China was a crime?
He was an explorer, Not a Conqueror, They came later as those were Conquistadors and Columbus wasn't one of them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Columbus
There is no mention of any crimes there, So I think You, Need to look at the Spanish Colonization of the Americas which started in 1513 and would be impossible for Columbus to have done or known about this As Columbus died in 1506 a full 7 years before, So Who's a criminal now?

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guido.man Since the US didn't exist before 1776, It is not a part of US History, But then Columbus was not an American as America as a nation didn't exist for several hundred years. It would be good If the Wiki could reference this work.

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SJ
You did not hold Columbus up as an example of a good American.
You used him as an example of a good Christian, as in 'not a Muslim'.

What guido.man has provided (thank you) is proof that the idea of some sort of superiority of religious belief is bullshit.
Muslims are not all evil and Christians are not all good.

What's going on in Gaza is not based on religion.
It is simply a fight over lands and resources.

The Palestinians are not fighting because they are Muslim.
They are fighting because they are oppressed and treated like dogs.

guido.man Since the US didn't exist before 1776, It is not a part of US History, But then Columbus was not an American as America as a nation didn't exist for several hundred years. It would be good If the Wiki could reference this work.

SJ
You really need to start seeking the truth about this world from sources other than those providing sanitized versions which fit the historical myths prefered by those in charge of engineering thought and attitudes.

The truth about events in the world is the last thing on the minds of those directing news at Fox and other corporate networks.
They provide the viewer with just the information needed to bring you around to accepting their worldviews.

That's probably why you have such a view of Muslims. Before these propagandists started spouting their venom about Muslims, I venture that you never gave the religion a second thought.

SJ
You did not hold Columbus up as an example of a good American.
You used him as an example of a good Christian, as in 'not a Muslim'.

What guido.man has provided (thank you) is proof that the idea of some sort of superiority of religious belief is bullshit.
Muslims are not all evil and Christians are not all good.

What's going on in Gaza is not based on religion.
It is simply a fight over lands and resources.

The Palestinians are not fighting because they are Muslim.
They are fighting because they are oppressed and treated like dogs.

I may have erred on Columbus, But I can say Americans from about 1900(thought You'd have Me there?) on did not do stupid wanton acts.

As to Religion in Gaza HAMAS is all about Religion as in Islamist rule by force, taxes(Jizwa) paid by those who are non Muslims and never having any non muslim in power and yes Muslims still in some parts of the world practice or allow slavery(Sudan I think) where the rest of the world has stopped doing It, I know there are those here in the US who have tried to do that and they get caught and thrown in prison(Federal I think) when their caught.

In any case Israel is not a bunch of thugs, Since they did need a homeland and there were Jews living in the area(Jesus is/was a Jew, He wasn't an Arab) since before Roman times, They have the right to self defense like It or not, The Muslims should respect that right, those on the West Bank haven't bothered Israel and the Israelis have not bothered the people of the West Bank, Only HAMAS is being a spoiled brat and throwing a temper tantrum(Missiles supplied by IRAN, plus some home made junk).

Palestinians have a Right to a country too, But not at the expense of some other country, The Palestinians on the West Bank aren't last I looked doing anything to Israel and what is Israel doing to the West Bank? Nothing, As they are peacefully coexisting, HAMAS says this is impossible as HAMAS are Muslims and that is an affront to GOD and so Israel must die and so must the Jews there as that is what was seen on TV being taught to kids in the Gaza strip by a perverted Mickey Mouse clone that came and thankfully left(they don't respect international law, Just their interpretation of the Koran and to hell with everybody else).

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guido.man Since the US didn't exist before 1776, It is not a part of US History, But then Columbus was not an American as America as a nation didn't exist for several hundred years. It would be good If the Wiki could reference this work.

SJ
You really need to start seeking the truth about this world from sources other than those providing sanitized versions which fit the historical myths prefered by those in charge of engineering thought and attitudes.

The truth about events in the world is the last thing on the minds of those directing news at Fox and other corporate networks.
They provide the viewer with just the information needed to bring you around to accepting their worldviews.

That's probably why you have such a view of Muslims. Before these propagandists started spouting their venom about Muslims, I venture that you never gave the religion a second thought.

Look did The US exist before 1776? No It did not.

I don't watch FOX channels, Perfectly dull there.

If a Muslim will leave Me in Peace I will do the same, But that's why We have the Best Military on Earth as Freedom is not Free, It's price is a bit high, but the loss of Freedom is higher still.

Propagandists? You imply the news media in the US is controlled alla NAZI Germany by the Government, They are not, We have something called Freedom of the Press...

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I you refuse to accept that Israel is expanding into their territories further every day, building new settlements and taking over the most productive agricultural lands and water resources, there's really nothing I can add.

I suggest reading Failed States by Noam Chomsky.
There's at least one chapter (going by my poor memory) on this very situation which also ties in the American involvement.

I you refuse to accept that Israel is expanding into their territories further every day, building new settlements and taking over the most productive agricultural lands and water resources, there's really nothing I can add.

I suggest reading Failed States by Noam Chomsky.
There's at least one chapter (going by my poor memory) on this very situation which also ties in the American involvement.

They left the GAZA strip and have no settlements there, On the West Bank I don't think their allowing New Settlements, Otherwise I'm sure somebody would've said so. They are removing some illegal settlements as detailed below, But beyond that I don't know and some posts on the web I'm not sure I'd trust.

Israel Moves Toward Building More Settler Homes on an old army base

Israel Planning to Build Hundreds of New Homes: (Tuesday, April 1, 2008) on an old army base that houses a boarding school currently.

Most rightists leave sites of new illegal West Bank outpost

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Israel has given up territory, relinquished settlements...in short, done nothing but try to appease Hamas. However, when dealing with terrorists not interested in building Palestine but instead dedicated to the destruction of Israel, there can be no negotiation.

Pretty much the same situation with the western world and Al Qaeda. When one party will be satisfied with nothing less than the others utter destruction, there is no room for talking.

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They never fail who die in a great cause.

Israel has given up territory, relinquished settlements...

Seems that this news hasn't reached Condoleeza Rice yet.


http://www.arabicnews.com/ansub/Daily/Day/080616/2008061623.html

The ability for humans to justify killing ensures that killing will never stop. Israel is becoming just like the beast that formed that state. The Nazi were ruthless killers and now so is Israel. I will also say that Hamas are ruthless killers. There is no room for talk. The one that totally destroys the other will be the winner. I think Israel is at the disadvantage. They have the military might. Their enemies have the shear numerical advantage and mobility. Israel is a sitting duck.

U.S. Rejected Aid for Israeli Raid on Iranian Nuclear Site


WASHINGTON — President Bush deflected a secret request by Israel last year for specialized bunker-busting bombs it wanted for an attack on Iran’s main nuclear complex and told the Israelis that he had authorized new covert action intended to sabotage Iran’s suspected effort to develop nuclear weapons, according to senior American and foreign officials.

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We choose to go to the moon and to do other things, we choose to go to the moon not because its easy but because its hard. kennedy

It will all be settled at Al Meguido

It will all be settled at Al Meguido

Sooner rather than later..

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I'll not rush the issue - i have a few years left before becoming an umpire

The ability for humans to justify killing ensures that killing will never stop. Israel is becoming just like the beast that formed that state. The Nazi were ruthless killers and now so is Israel. I will also say that Hamas are ruthless killers. There is no room for talk. The one that totally destroys the other will be the winner. I think Israel is at the disadvantage. They have the military might. Their enemies have the shear numerical advantage and mobility. Israel is a sitting duck.

The big difference is that the Nzis werent almost wiped off the face of the earth.

This just in... Israelis are now using airburst white phosphorus rounds on civilian populations... Not cool.

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The ability for humans to justify killing ensures that killing will never stop. Israel is becoming just like the beast that formed that state. The Nazi were ruthless killers and now so is Israel. I will also say that Hamas are ruthless killers. There is no room for talk. The one that totally destroys the other will be the winner. I think Israel is at the disadvantage. They have the military might. Their enemies have the shear numerical advantage and mobility. Israel is a sitting duck.

The big difference is that the Nazis weren't almost wiped off the face of the earth.

This just in... Israelis are now using airburst white phosphorus rounds on civilian populations... Not cool.

CNN wrote:

Still, A Doctor familiar with the material said it is not possible to tell, based on pictures of burns, whether white phosphorus was responsible.

"Dead tissue pretty much looks the same," said Dr. Peter Grossman, president of the Grossman Burn Center in Sherman Oaks, California.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/12/white.phosphorus/index.html

All pictures in areas not controlled by the UN or by Israel are controlled by HAMAS and HAMAS wants Jews(Israelis) to look like evil monsters, I mean are other areas being attacked? No. Has Israel ever wiped any city off the face of the Earth? No.

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Casualties

Update for 13 January '09, morning (GMT+2)

Gaza: at least 900 killed, of them at least 270 children and 95 women. More than half those killed since the ground incursion began (450) are women and children. Over 4,200 injured, of them over 400 severely so.

Israel: 10 killed, of them 1 woman and 7 soldiers. Over 82 civilians injured, of them 4 severely injured, not including those treated for shock , and 61 soldiers injured, of them one in critical condition.

Source: Reports from Israeli human rights groups

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Casualties

Update for 13 January '09, morning (GMT+2)

Gaza: at least 900 killed, of them at least 270 children and 95 women. More than half those killed since the ground incursion began (450) are women and children. Over 4,200 injured, of them over 400 severely so.

Israel: 10 killed, of them 1 woman and 7 soldiers. Over 82 civilians injured, of them 4 severely injured, not including those treated for shock , and 61 soldiers injured, of them one in critical condition.

Source: Reports from Israeli human rights groups

Lets see I read above that the population density for the gaza strip is 10,000 people per sq mile. So a death toll that has less than 400 civilians dead is quite remarkably low.

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