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Message 828238 - Posted: 8 Nov 2008, 11:25:57 UTC - in response to Message 828126.  

Well I just hope you're right. But it will be a nightmare for the security guys around him.
I believe the biggest threat does come from the race-hate groups. But I'm not convinced that the worst of the threats has passed.
I think Obama's still in great danger.

He is.........
And the threat is greater now that the nutcase's worst fear has become reality........
He IS our president elect......and I am sure they never thought it would happen.....

Soooooooo......how many days?

Gawd......I hope I am wrong on this one.........
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Message 828255 - Posted: 8 Nov 2008, 13:28:26 UTC - in response to Message 828238.  

... Soooooooo......how many days?

Gawd......I hope I am wrong on this one.........

What?!

Are the KKK still doin' their burnin's?

Or will Big Oil sponsor them to keep the Earth burnin' up ever faster??...


We've had nearly a decade of climate sabotage by the Bush-load... I would guess there's many rich die-hards on that band-waggon...


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Message 828395 - Posted: 8 Nov 2008, 19:29:07 UTC - in response to Message 828108.  

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Message 828465 - Posted: 9 Nov 2008, 0:15:06 UTC

At least I don't think that the white 'supremacists' will resort to suicide bombings. They would have to be like Al Qaeda to go that far, and I think they are too fond of their own lives.
But it only takes one nutter.
However good the security services, the would-be assassin can still end up slipping through the net. Remember what happened to Martin Luther?
Mind you, I would hope that the President would have better security than Martin Luther did, and maybe it's improved nowadays anyway.
But as I'm such a pessimist, somehow I still fear the worst!
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Message 828471 - Posted: 9 Nov 2008, 0:46:48 UTC - in response to Message 828231.  

He'll be depending on foreign security which isn't as good and in a place full of those intent upon doing the United States harm.



The president of the United States never depends on foreign security.

When presidential visits are made even to Canada, the secret service has a full contingent of fully armed agents on duty.
The gun laws in Canada do not permit some of the weapons they bring but exceptions are made for the president.

The unmarked crates of weapons are landed in a seperate plane before the president arrives.

For PR purposes, the locals are lead to believe that their own police are used for security for the president.
The truth is that the local forces are only there for display purposes.
The real security is covered by the secret service.

I think these guys are some of the most dedicated security types in the world and the belief that nothing will happen to the president on their watch is ingrained into their souls.

For the duration of the two terms of this Obama administration, the secret service will be on even higher alert than usual.
It's just a matter of pride for them.

When the President is on foreign soil, the number of agents and what they can carry and what they can do is entirely up to the control of the foreign government. It is all negotiated before the President arrives. When he is visiting an ally obviously the Secret Service gets carte blanche. Elsewhere that isn't the case. I can imagine how little control they would have if the President insisted on going to Iran. All they might have is to recommend to the President to not do or go.

If you are talking about the personal detail, if they are needed to toss their bodies on top of the President then security has been breached.


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Message 828649 - Posted: 9 Nov 2008, 14:29:10 UTC
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I believe both Democrats and Republicans are responsible for the current financial crisis and it will get worse before it gets better. Both parties’ realize this and therefore neither party truly wished to win at this election cycle. When Oprah endorsed Obama his fate was sealed. Some of the things Obama said when off the campaign script made me think he was trying to lose the election and in normal times would have resulted in his being forced out. Oprah made all the difference.

Obama will do his best but the truth is that the damage to the economy is deep and long lasting no matter what he does. If he increases taxes the economy will get worse. Obama has made many campaign promises to get himself elected. When the country realizes that he cannot deliver on those promises then what?

Truth is we know so little about this new president that nobody can predict how he will perform. In two press conferences so far he has made two gaffs resulting in one phone call to Nancy Reagon to apologize and another self deprecating remark. Is this a hint to his real public speaking ability when off script? If so how will he handle himself with world leaders?

I hope he performs well at the Presidency; this country needs him to perform well. He has not demonstrated yet that he is the man this country needs at this time. Can any one man correct what has taken decades of inaction by previous administrations (Clinton and Bush) to accomplish?

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Mr. Obama promised change. If he continues politics as usual in Washington, we the citizens lose.
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Message 828661 - Posted: 9 Nov 2008, 14:58:50 UTC - in response to Message 828649.  
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Truth is we know so little about this new president that nobody can predict how he will perform. In two press conferences so far he has made two gaffs resulting in one phone call to Nancy Reagon to apologize and another self deprecating remark. Is this a hint to his real public speaking ability when off script? If so how will he handle himself with world leaders?


I disagree. I think his off-handed remarks are attempts at showing humor, then his aides tell him that people are easily offended and that he should apologize for making them lest he gains a large(r) group of people that wish to remove him from power.

[Edit] I think this is similar to, who was it, FDR? I think FDR was the first President to use sarcasm publicly when talking to reporters, and at first many people didn't realize that he was being sarcastic, particularly since the era he presided in (1933-1945) was considered to be very naive - not that they couldn't understand sarcasm, but that it wasn't used frequently or for humorous reasons. With each new generation comes a new type or sense of humor.

Obama is young, and so he's going to have a young man's sense of humor that many people will not get, or will be easily offended by. This simply shows a lack of politicking on Obama's behalf, but in my mind that is what the US needs, less politics and more self-deprecating humor along with someone who isn't going to lie to us as much as former Presidents (though there's always lies).

I think Obama will handle himself fine with other world leaders. Hopefully, the world will be less sensitive or uptight and might actually be able to share a laugh with him. Those that are too sensitive and uptight will just have to get over it (just like those citizens in the US). If people weren't so sensitive and shared more laughs together at our (the human race's) expense, then perhaps there wouldn't be such hard feelings between everyone.
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Message 828668 - Posted: 9 Nov 2008, 15:23:24 UTC - in response to Message 828649.  

I believe both Democrats and Republicans are responsible for the current financial crisis and it will get worse before it gets better. Both parties’ realize this and therefore neither party truly wished to win at this election cycle. When Oprah endorsed Obama his fate was sealed. Some of the things Obama said when off the campaign script made me think he was trying to lose the election and in normal times would have resulted in his being forced out. Oprah made all the difference.

Obama will do his best but the truth is that the damage to the economy is deep and long lasting no matter what he does. If he increases taxes the economy will get worse. Obama has made many campaign promises to get himself elected. When the country realizes that he cannot deliver on those promises then what?

Truth is we know so little about this new president that nobody can predict how he will perform. In two press conferences so far he has made two gaffs resulting in one phone call to Nancy Reagon to apologize and another self deprecating remark. Is this a hint to his real public speaking ability when off script? If so how will he handle himself with world leaders?

I hope he performs well at the Presidency; this country needs him to perform well. He has not demonstrated yet that he is the man this country needs at this time. Can any one man correct what has taken decades of inaction by previous administrations (Clinton and Bush) to accomplish?

[edit]
Mr. Obama promised change. If he continues politics as usual in Washington, we the citizens lose.
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Obama will do his best but the truth is that the damage to the economy is deep and long lasting no matter what he does. If he increases taxes the economy will get worse. Obama has made many campaign promises to get himself elected. When the country realizes that he cannot deliver on those promises then what?

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The book '1984'.

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Message 828860 - Posted: 10 Nov 2008, 6:04:12 UTC

Obama got my vote! Heck yeah! Put a brother in the White House!
The sad truth of the matter is that nothing will truly change so long as the people who run this country believe, "We use the military to have what we want."
This is why we invaded Iraq, a country whose total population had less to do with 9/11 than the Faculty and Administration of Embry-Riddle University.

"A nation that has no shame can have no honor." -- Wolfram Von Eschenbach

Still, I'd reenlist if I weren't so old and fat. I know Obama wouldn't screw me over the way George Bush did.

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Message 828905 - Posted: 10 Nov 2008, 12:56:39 UTC - in response to Message 828860.  

Obama got my vote! Heck yeah! Put a brother in the White House!
The sad truth of the matter is that nothing will truly change so long as the people who run this country believe, "We use the military to have what we want."
This is why we invaded Iraq, a country whose total population had less to do with 9/11 than the Faculty and Administration of Embry-Riddle University.

"A nation that has no shame can have no honor." -- Wolfram Von Eschenbach

Still, I'd reenlist if I weren't so old and fat. I know Obama wouldn't screw me over the way George Bush did.



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Message 829093 - Posted: 10 Nov 2008, 23:03:11 UTC - in response to Message 828905.  

I didn't vote for Obama for many reasons, But he is now my President elect for 4 years so I'll sit back and hope he can deliver on his promises and not make things worst instead of better, I'd love to know where he plans on getting the money for some of the programs he intends but that is a different matter. At least in four years if he falls on his face he can get voted out on his A@@ LOL

As for somebody trying to take him out, I think you have less to worry about from Good Ole Boys from the south then you do from neo nazi's and white supremacists. There are a lot of them and most spew nothing but hate from their mouths. If they want him bad enough and are smart enough no amount of security will save anyone. If it does happen it will further tarnish the US's image overseas and will also almost certainly start major civil unrest here at home, And I foresee the result of such unrest in innumerable senseless deaths. Nether of which serve the best interest of our country so I hope it doesn't happen and hes just allowed to serve out his term and show what he can or can't do in the office.
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Message 830133 - Posted: 14 Nov 2008, 6:24:19 UTC - in response to Message 827285.  

I admit to not voting Obama, but I am glad he won. My prayers and support will be with him and his new administration in the coming years.

Well I can only say He's the 44th President of the USA or soon will be as soon as He's sworn in by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States of America. He'll need everyones support as It seems He has one big job on His shoulders ahead of Him.
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Message 831065 - Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 6:20:51 UTC



Kinda says it all doesn't it!

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Message 831126 - Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 13:31:01 UTC - in response to Message 831079.  

A first look at Obama's national energy policy






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Message 831207 - Posted: 16 Nov 2008, 18:53:46 UTC - in response to Message 831065.  



Kinda says it all doesn't it!


It says more about those who believe it
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Message 831346 - Posted: 17 Nov 2008, 1:03:03 UTC

Watching Obama on 60 minutes has at least made me thankful that the USA has someone Presidential as our President elect. He comes across as a straight talker. And he doesn't seem to be afraid of the media like President Bush was. I think he will be very good for the USA. He has his work cut out, but perhaps he will be up to the task. We just need someone to be honest and open to the public. Quite a change from the outgoing Bush admin. GO-BAMA.
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Message 831428 - Posted: 17 Nov 2008, 4:16:44 UTC
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I believe Hillary Clinton was right. King Obama is going to arrive in Washington having delivered 1 good speech 4 years ago and then memorizing campaign rhetoric. Nothing else except a law degree and a politicians mouth. Never before has a man been elected to President with ZERO qualifications.

In his own words he wants to “redistribute the wealth”. I’m sorry but I am perfectly capable of making donations to my favorite charities without King Obama’s help. In fact if he would reduce my taxes then I would have even more money to donate to my favorite charities. Given the economy now, reducing anyone’s taxes is a long shot.

King Obama also stated that he wished to form a civilian military organization with as much strength as the current military and also with the same level of funding. And who is this private security force to protect us from? King Obama? Would they protect my neighbor from me or me from my neighbor? Last time this was done it was Hitler and the SS and we have seen how that turned out.

When the economy tanked King Obama quickly met with some advisors and asked. “What is the best thing to do? Leave it to me to sell it to the American people. That’s my job.” So even he realizes that he is nothing more than a politician and a salesman. He is not the second coming of Christ or the savior of the world as many would have us believe.

Many of the things that King Obama stated when not reciting the campaign rhetoric would have doomed any other politician. Indeed the liberal media was all over John McCain for not having a background in economics and admitting to that fact. The fact that King Obama must also rely on advice from advisors was not discussed.

In fact King Obama is going to have to rely on advice from advisors on every topic of concern as his background is ZERO. This man cannot make a decision when confronted with multiple choice answers. That’s why he has voted “present” on so many votes.

Want to know why the entire world celebrated on Nov 4? They already know the USA committed suicide and we still have to learn that.
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Message 831442 - Posted: 17 Nov 2008, 5:17:00 UTC - in response to Message 831428.  

I don't know... seems quite harsh to me. You haven't even given the guy a chance. Or are you going to do the same thing Bush-haters did and dissect his every move so that you can point and say "I told you so" when you're actually right on some occasions? Or find some spin on everything he does into something negative or bad?

I think Obama was the better man than McCain, but not by much.
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Message 831462 - Posted: 17 Nov 2008, 6:44:42 UTC

we celebrated( the rest of a world), if at all, only cause now you have new much better president.
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