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Message 757578 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 1:07:51 UTC

This will be a long post......

Bought how my struggles with the Frozen Penny have come about........

A long time ago, on a planet far away,
some kitties were gather to collectively say........
These crunchers can run faster.....
We know that they can..
Cuz on Intel's hardware they're 'faster than can'.

So they ran down the path
said their faster than many...
And along their path
came along the Frozen Penny........

A cpu so cool and so fast if was said,
that it would lay all the past in the dead.
And the promise of 'who' had been so cleverly
hidden,
That you probably thought that the kitties' old promise was mitten...

My reasons for posting these musings are hidden,
'tween the past and the present and some thought most forbidding..............
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Message 757579 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 1:10:26 UTC


. . . very clever Mark - 'ave a great weekend too


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Message 757620 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 3:33:56 UTC - in response to Message 757578.  

My reasons for posting these musings are hidden,
'tween the past and the present and some thought most forbidding..............


You recently fried your CPU ?

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Message 757654 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 5:12:04 UTC

The long weekend just got going... well okay perhaps a few hours ago... I hope the long weekend works for everybody. (shopping sat/sun for a new quad something)
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Message 757663 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 5:20:34 UTC - in response to Message 757620.  

My reasons for posting these musings are hidden,
'tween the past and the present and some thought most forbidding..............


You recently fried your CPU ?


More likely he fried the CPU 'tween his ears.... Call it a Turkey Short.
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Message 757699 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 8:11:57 UTC

Hi Mark!

My condolences....


By the way, yesterday in an attack of madness, I bought a processor Q6600 and upgraded my E6300 'media' pc.
Any work of bricolage for me that I am not a technician ...

The result is amazing ...!!!!

Best regards.
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Message 757705 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 8:40:56 UTC

Posting from an altenate rig.......
Still really pd off......
I'll fix the biatch.........I hate it when things go away..........
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Message 757720 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 9:18:18 UTC - in response to Message 757705.  

Posting from an altenate rig.......
Still really pd off......
I'll fix the biatch.........I hate it when things go away..........

When the fates they conspire what can mere mortals do?
Seems perverse to be grateful that it happened to you.
Be mindful the heartache, the grief beyond measure,
When tragedy strikes at a person you treasure.

The Penny ge-splotnick? 'tis but metal and glass,
The phoenix arises, your p***dness will pass,
Your counsel is good, "Push hard - expect pain",
We know that the Penny will come back again.

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Message 757728 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 9:39:17 UTC - in response to Message 757720.  

Posting from an altenate rig.......
Still really pd off......
I'll fix the biatch.........I hate it when things go away..........

When the fates they conspire what can mere mortals do?
Seems perverse to be grateful that it happened to you.
Be mindful the heartache, the grief beyond measure,
When tragedy strikes at a person you treasure.

The Penny ge-splotnick? 'tis but metal and glass,
The phoenix arises, your p***dness will pass,
Your counsel is good, "Push hard - expect pain",
We know that the Penny will come back again.

F.


Kind Words Fred.

However... KITTY DOWN! KITTY DOWN!

Call the army, no the navy, no wait hang on... we want this fixed properly.

Call Mark, Save the Penny!

Hope you get it fixed soon Mate!
Not o/c'ing at all at the moment, too much ambient heat in my little house.
Best of luck,
regards, Giz.



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Message 757748 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 11:47:16 UTC - in response to Message 757720.  

Posting from an altenate rig.......
Still really pd off......
I'll fix the biatch.........I hate it when things go away..........

When the fates they conspire what can mere mortals do?
Seems perverse to be grateful that it happened to you.
Be mindful the heartache, the grief beyond measure,
When tragedy strikes at a person you treasure.

The Penny ge-splotnick? 'tis but metal and glass,
The phoenix arises, your p***dness will pass,
Your counsel is good, "Push hard - expect pain",
We know that the Penny will come back again.

F.

Just metal and silicon......
Sometimes sad, but it's true.....
I've just revived my daily driver.....talkin' to you,,,,,,

I'm pissed and I need sleep..........but I will continue in a kitty thread............
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Message 757808 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 16:11:24 UTC

Sorry to hear that the Frozen Penny is frozen permanently Mark, As long as everything else in the envelope was ok, Then getting a New Shinny Penny out may be all that anybody can really do, Besides take a picture of the corpse of course.
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Message 757810 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 16:30:47 UTC - in response to Message 757748.  

Posting from an altenate rig.......
Still really pd off......
I'll fix the biatch.........I hate it when things go away..........

When the fates they conspire what can mere mortals do?
Seems perverse to be grateful that it happened to you.
Be mindful the heartache, the grief beyond measure,
When tragedy strikes at a person you treasure.

The Penny ge-splotnick? 'tis but metal and glass,
The phoenix arises, your p***dness will pass,
Your counsel is good, "Push hard - expect pain",
We know that the Penny will come back again.

F.

Just metal and silicon......
Sometimes sad, but it's true.....
I've just revived my daily driver.....talkin' to you,,,,,,

I'm pissed and I need sleep..........but I will continue in a kitty thread............


Hope it wasn't that dreaded Condensation that got my rig....

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Message 757818 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 17:29:50 UTC

No condensation here....
The Penny is back up and running......
Dang keyboard failure......
Had to dig out one of my backups....
Forgot how nice a vintage 42h1292 feels..wonderful!!!!

Now I just gotta go to Best Buy and replace the couple of KVM cables I trashed in my anger last night..........

Them little connectors don't take to abuse like the old 9 and 25 pin d-subs did.......lol......
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Message 757825 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 17:45:46 UTC - in response to Message 757818.  

No condensation here....
The Penny is back up and running......
Dang keyboard failure......
Had to dig out one of my backups....
Forgot how nice a vintage 42h1292 feels..wonderful!!!!

Now I just gotta go to Best Buy and replace the couple of KVM cables I trashed in my anger last night..........

Them little connectors don't take to abuse like the old 9 and 25 pin d-subs did.......lol......

Glad to hear It was only a sacrifice to the great keyboard in the sky, Guy and not Yer cpu, Or Frozen Penny would need a brain.
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Message 757830 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 17:51:41 UTC - in response to Message 757720.  

Posting from an altenate rig.......
Still really pd off......
I'll fix the biatch.........I hate it when things go away..........

When the fates they conspire what can mere mortals do?
Seems perverse to be grateful that it happened to you.
Be mindful the heartache, the grief beyond measure,
When tragedy strikes at a person you treasure.

The Penny ge-splotnick? 'tis but metal and glass,
The phoenix arises, your p***dness will pass,
Your counsel is good, "Push hard - expect pain",
We know that the Penny will come back again.

F.

BTW.....nice words from you Fred........
I shoulda known that my buds would cover my back.......

Crunching on......need to replace a few KVM cables that did not withstand my fervor last night.....

It's all good.....and this new vintage 42h1292 feels like I was a teeny again.....luv it!!!!!!!
Nothing like a clicky............the feel is just unbelievable........'soft touch' my butt.............

(The youngsters here will not understand..).
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Message 757836 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 18:22:28 UTC
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And the real true reason for composing this thread......
Is a story that I've not yet written nor none of you've read....

'Tis a tale of a Boinc installation gone wild
And the x64 born son of an ill gotten child.....

I'll tell it to you, if you care but to listen
but please don't admonish me here if I'm slippin'..

The tale goes back to my new XP days......

Things were happy then.....

Whatever.......

At some point in time......(my time reference is tarnished by my Tardis travels)..
I decided to upgrade from XP to x64....
I had some unused disk space on the HD, so I created a new partition and installed x64 from scratch.

Then I copied my Boinc folder from the old virtual drive to the new one, and carried on.......all was good....or so I thought.

Time went on, and the Frozen Penny's OC went south,....at least that's what I thought......

Fred.......this is what I was talking about when I referenced a bit of a change in the Penny...

XPx64 has TWO feakin'....count them, TWO.....'program files' folders......one simply named 'program files', and one named 'program files x64'......
When I did the upgrade and started anew, I copied the Boinc file to the x64 folder.....crap.........I was running x64, it seemed to make perfect sense..........to a dummy.....

So, as time went on, my Boinc installation got increasingly confused......

It kept crashing, and not gracefully.....spontaneous detaches and lost WUs....
they were there, (or so I thought), but Boinc could not see them, and restarted from scratch......

The final straw came when it detached again, and I figgered..........trash it all.....which I did.....(or so I thought).

Deleted the entire Boinc folder....
Did a new install....started 'er up.....and the dang thing still had projects lined up......WTF?????????????

Then I did a defrag, just to be sure I had cleaned up all the itty bitty pieces of the old Boinc installation, and to my surprise.....defrag was moving about Seti WU files.......WTF in spades......(where's the fish, for you non-kitty types) again????????


Well.....long story short....I had a Boinc installation in the 'program files x64' folder and another in the standard 'program files' folder, and the two were interacting in unknown ways.........

My desktop bookmarks were all linking to the z64 version, but God knows what was actually running.......and all along,.I started whacking the bios on my rig trying to put things right.........oh.....the humanity.....the humidity.....the kitten thingy...........

Soooooooooooo.......

What I was originally getting at Fred,......was if you clone your Boinc file to transfer it to x64....put it in the dang standard 'program files' folder..........
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Message 757846 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 18:47:17 UTC - in response to Message 757836.  

And the real true reason for composing this thread......
Is a story that I've not yet written nor none of you've read....

'Tis a tale of a Boinc installation gone wild
And the x64 born son of an ill gotten child.....

I'll tell it to you, if you care but to listen
but please don't admonish me here if I'm slippin'..

The tale goes back to my new XP days......

Things were happy then.....

Whatever.......

At some point in time......(my time reference is tarnished by my Tardis travels)..
I decided to upgrade from XP to x64....
I had some unused disk space on the HD, so I created a new partition and installed x64 from scratch.

Then I copied my Boinc folder from the old virtual drive to the new one, and carried on.......all was good....or so I thought.

Time went on, and the Frozen Penny's OC went south,....at least that's what I thought......

Fred.......this is what I was talking about when I referenced a bit of a change in the Penny...

XPx64 has TWO feakin'....count them, TWO.....'program files' folders......one simply named 'program files', and one named 'program files x64'......
When I did the upgrade and started anew, I copied the Boinc file to the x64 folder.....crap.........I was running x64, it seemed to make perfect sense..........to a dummy.....

So, as time went on, my Boinc installation got increasingly confused......

It kept crashing, and not gracefully.....spontaneous detaches and lost WUs....
they were there, (or so I thought), but Boinc could not see them, and restarted from scratch......

The final straw came when it detached again, and I figgered..........trash it all.....which I did.....(or so I thought).

Deleted the entire Boinc folder....
Did a new install....started 'er up.....and the dang thing still had projects lined up......WTF?????????????

Then I did a defrag, just to be sure I had cleaned up all the itty bitty pieces of the old Boinc installation, and to my surprise.....defrag was moving about Seti WU files.......WTF in spades......(where's the fish, for you non-kitty types) again????????


Well.....long story short....I had a Boinc installation in the 'program files x64' folder and another in the standard 'program files' folder, and the two were interacting in unknown ways.........

My desktop bookmarks were all linking to the z64 version, but God knows what was actually running.......and all along,.I started whacking the bios on my rig trying to put things right.........oh.....the humanity.....the humidity.....the kitten thingy...........

Soooooooooooo.......

What I was originally getting at Fred,......was if you clone your Boinc file to transfer it to x64....put it in the dang standard 'program files' folder..........

Thanks for the heads-up, Mark.

I've got a 500G HD on order with my PC8500 RAM. So when that arrives (when???!!!) I plan to put the Vista64 (OEM - cheapskate that I am) on that and give BOINC its own dedicated partition so it can run from the root. Then I'll copy across all the files I need from my existing 160G HD (this is my daily use machine - not a dedicated cruncher), re-format that HD and use it in the machine that I am building for my son out of the bits I have left over from all my upgrades. I think all that I am missing now from the build-kit is a case and a SATA DVD (planning an Antec Solo case and whatever optical drive seems appropriate at the time).

F.
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Message 757855 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 18:59:43 UTC - in response to Message 757846.  

And the real true reason for composing this thread......
Is a story that I've not yet written nor none of you've read....

'Tis a tale of a Boinc installation gone wild
And the x64 born son of an ill gotten child.....

I'll tell it to you, if you care but to listen
but please don't admonish me here if I'm slippin'..

The tale goes back to my new XP days......

Things were happy then.....

Whatever.......

At some point in time......(my time reference is tarnished by my Tardis travels)..
I decided to upgrade from XP to x64....
I had some unused disk space on the HD, so I created a new partition and installed x64 from scratch.

Then I copied my Boinc folder from the old virtual drive to the new one, and carried on.......all was good....or so I thought.

Time went on, and the Frozen Penny's OC went south,....at least that's what I thought......

Fred.......this is what I was talking about when I referenced a bit of a change in the Penny...

XPx64 has TWO feakin'....count them, TWO.....'program files' folders......one simply named 'program files', and one named 'program files x64'......
When I did the upgrade and started anew, I copied the Boinc file to the x64 folder.....crap.........I was running x64, it seemed to make perfect sense..........to a dummy.....

So, as time went on, my Boinc installation got increasingly confused......

It kept crashing, and not gracefully.....spontaneous detaches and lost WUs....
they were there, (or so I thought), but Boinc could not see them, and restarted from scratch......

The final straw came when it detached again, and I figgered..........trash it all.....which I did.....(or so I thought).

Deleted the entire Boinc folder....
Did a new install....started 'er up.....and the dang thing still had projects lined up......WTF?????????????

Then I did a defrag, just to be sure I had cleaned up all the itty bitty pieces of the old Boinc installation, and to my surprise.....defrag was moving about Seti WU files.......WTF in spades......(where's the fish, for you non-kitty types) again????????


Well.....long story short....I had a Boinc installation in the 'program files x64' folder and another in the standard 'program files' folder, and the two were interacting in unknown ways.........

My desktop bookmarks were all linking to the z64 version, but God knows what was actually running.......and all along,.I started whacking the bios on my rig trying to put things right.........oh.....the humanity.....the humidity.....the kitten thingy...........

Soooooooooooo.......

What I was originally getting at Fred,......was if you clone your Boinc file to transfer it to x64....put it in the dang standard 'program files' folder..........

Thanks for the heads-up, Mark.

I've got a 500G HD on order with my PC8500 RAM. So when that arrives (when???!!!) I plan to put the Vista64 (OEM - cheapskate that I am) on that and give BOINC its own dedicated partition so it can run from the root. Then I'll copy across all the files I need from my existing 160G HD (this is my daily use machine - not a dedicated cruncher), re-format that HD and use it in the machine that I am building for my son out of the bits I have left over from all my upgrades. I think all that I am missing now from the build-kit is a case and a SATA DVD (planning an Antec Solo case and whatever optical drive seems appropriate at the time).

F.

Each of some of My XP x64 CDs cost less than that(about $75 each), Have fun.
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Message 757857 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 19:00:46 UTC - in response to Message 757836.  

And the real true reason for composing this thread......
Is a story that I've not yet written nor none of you've read....

'Tis a tale of a Boinc installation gone wild
And the x64 born son of an ill gotten child.....

I'll tell it to you, if you care but to listen
but please don't admonish me here if I'm slippin'..

The tale goes back to my new XP days......

Things were happy then.....

Whatever.......

At some point in time......(my time reference is tarnished by my Tardis travels)..
I decided to upgrade from XP to x64....
I had some unused disk space on the HD, so I created a new partition and installed x64 from scratch.

Then I copied my Boinc folder from the old virtual drive to the new one, and carried on.......all was good....or so I thought.

Time went on, and the Frozen Penny's OC went south,....at least that's what I thought......

Fred.......this is what I was talking about when I referenced a bit of a change in the Penny...

XPx64 has TWO feakin'....count them, TWO.....'program files' folders......one simply named 'program files', and one named 'program files x64'......
When I did the upgrade and started anew, I copied the Boinc file to the x64 folder.....crap.........I was running x64, it seemed to make perfect sense..........to a dummy.....

So, as time went on, my Boinc installation got increasingly confused......

It kept crashing, and not gracefully.....spontaneous detaches and lost WUs....
they were there, (or so I thought), but Boinc could not see them, and restarted from scratch......

The final straw came when it detached again, and I figgered..........trash it all.....which I did.....(or so I thought).

Deleted the entire Boinc folder....
Did a new install....started 'er up.....and the dang thing still had projects lined up......WTF?????????????

Then I did a defrag, just to be sure I had cleaned up all the itty bitty pieces of the old Boinc installation, and to my surprise.....defrag was moving about Seti WU files.......WTF in spades......(where's the fish, for you non-kitty types) again????????


Well.....long story short....I had a Boinc installation in the 'program files x64' folder and another in the standard 'program files' folder, and the two were interacting in unknown ways.........

My desktop bookmarks were all linking to the z64 version, but God knows what was actually running.......and all along,.I started whacking the bios on my rig trying to put things right.........oh.....the humanity.....the humidity.....the kitten thingy...........

Soooooooooooo.......

What I was originally getting at Fred,......was if you clone your Boinc file to transfer it to x64....put it in the dang standard 'program files' folder..........


"Program Files" and "Program Files(x86)" ?
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Message 757863 - Posted: 24 May 2008, 19:07:14 UTC - in response to Message 757846.  


F.

Well....whatever........thank you for pointing out my error, Crm.....
I may have renamed it x64 in my ignorance........
Point being, there are TWO 'program files' folders in x64.....
Don't transport your Boinc folder to the exotic x64 folder.....it don't help....
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